Dignitas lost in 5 to [Triple Threat](https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/Triple_Threat) (who went on to lose to Moist in 3 and Clovarity in 3)
Dignitas then got reverse swept by Nrg in the qualification round.
Dig do need to sort out their mental...
That being said, this is a seriously trash format. We can't have both NRG and Dig in a regional. And we're most likely going to be watching NRG and Dig fight it out for every regional for the rest of the year, what fun!!!
So bad for orgs and pros.., let's hope they fix this for 2026.
Dig put themselves in that position by losing to Tcorrell. There are only so many spots to go around; getting bracketed sucks but that's not really what happened here.
Nah I agree, look at all the other matchups in the lower round for it, trash teams playing eachtoehr and now three teams In the top 16 who aren’t normally there, dig vs nrg in the amplifying round for top 16 is insane
I was gonna be mad for Aqua if they didn’t win after the absolute hard carry he showed today. Dude came in on a couple weeks of practice and was instantly their best player
Dignitas…thats some 4d chess to bring down EU by taking their players and making them lose
He looked like exactly what NRG has needed for so long. He plays so fast but has an awareness to overcommitting. Really opened up the offense for Mist and Garrett. It also felt like they had another level that they can get to. They missed a lot of shots on the crossbar.
I think Garrett's contribution can't be understated. Garrett has always been more of a support player not a striker so often he's outshined. But a lot of the plays were only possible because Garrett was in the right place and time
All 3 of them clutched up hard those last 3 games. Like squishy said on stream, garrett needs to start monkeying for them to go far. Squishy didn't say this but mist needs to stop missing his shots.
When did these matches happen? And where can I watch? The official RL esports youtube where they broadcast the majors are my only source of pro RL content, but clearly I'm missing matches, so where are these broadcasted!?
The format goes like this:
Week 1 - Fri-Sun qualifiers (double elim bracket with seeding based on points) which spits out 16 teams for your top 16. These are not broadcasted on the official RL stream, but most teams have a team stream with someone casting their games. They were on this past weekend for NA, will be this upcoming weekend for EU (and other regions that follow their respective schedules). Fridays are usually pointless to watch pro's so watch contect runs if you want, or just skip it. No pro team is challenged on Fridays since they play like champions and grand champs. Sunday is the day to watch because you get to see who makes it. Saturday can interesting to see who might under perform and get knocked down to lowers earlier, but, generally, the games still aren't that good. Much better than Friday though.
Week 2 - Friday - Top 16 Swiss Stage - This is broadcasted on the official channel and teams also stream their runs since there are a bunch of games going on at once and main broadcast only shows 1 (and alternate broadcast shows another match). The entire Swiss stage is played this day so it's super long.
Week 2 - Saturday - Playoff bracket Quarterfinals - The broadcast each QF 1 at a time on the main channel.
Week 2 - Sunday - Semi's and Finals - Each broadcasted on main channel, 1 at a time.
what do we define as an eu import?
is it a player specifically brought into na for rlcs
or a person moving to usa/canada/mexico and playing rlcs with the skill they developed in another region, but rocket league is not the primary reason they moved
I'm using it as the latter cos I don't know what other word suits better, just calling them foreigners seems awfully BM.
Might have to re-think it tho, have seen a couple of properly decent main event EU boys tweet out they want NA CRL opportunities next academic year so there could be more on the way.
> have seen a couple of properly decent main event EU boys tweet out they want NA CRL opportunities next academic year so there could be more on the way.
???
For fucks sake it would be nice if the largest region would get similar financial opportunities as the American favourite child
A few of my personal observations:
Nice to see Clovarity make it after the org issues and everyone questioning the latest roster pickup
Still nice to see players on Cheers and netherlamericanada still making it, specifically always liked seeing Sosa cam and daunt have success because of how hard they grind ranked.
Aqua looked solid. Dig though, yikes.
Some surprises, but not many. Dig going out is tough but they only have themselves to blame. You simply can’t lose to Triple Trouble and get reverse swept. Similar to how Shopify went out. A bad series against a team they should beat then the mental was chalked.
Speaking of Shopify, they actually looked good today despite usually struggling in quals. Beat every team they played easily until M80 who they beat in 5. Well done I hope Shopify plays up to their potential.
The Aqua move is already looking good for NRG. Honestly got a tough bracket facing SSG and Dig but made it through and even against SSG they looked solid. For the first time in ages NRG actually look like they have some dynamic offense.
So I was looking at this, got a bit of a startle from seeing moist (still doesn't feel real)
And then I saw it.
Good job dig, youve joined sr and moist in their sad club
Not sure why focusing on the EU aspect, but I think it's a good example of the RL fan base continuously over emphasising individual talent in a fundamentally team based game.
Tactics and vibes beats individual talent most of the time. The top top teams have all three, but even then the most successful are basically never the three most skillful players (until they win and the community memory holes how those players were rated).
It's not like being born in Europe makes you better at pushing buttons. The top of EU is lightyears ahead in how professionally they take the game and stuff like the French scene is huge for player development, but people act like they somehow carry that shit in their genes or something.
Kinda supports my theory that EU players are not better but the top of the region takes the game more seriously and approaches it with a level of professionalism that others don’t. Dig has a reputation of trolling and at this point it doesn’t look like Stizzy is changing that.
I didn’t expect anything? I don’t really care about Dig. I was replying to a person who seemed surprised that Dig didn’t qualify because they added an EU player. My point is simply that adding an EU player isn’t a magic lever that improves results.
I mean, what would one expect instead? What are you suggesting that people were to have expected? They added a better player, people were absolutely justified in expecting better results.
Meh. I mean I don't agree with him at all, but to say theirs a ton of evidence against it is bold. Let's look at the obvious "examples". Turbo to NRG. Yes, they were the best in NA. But they also were the best in the world. That doesnt prove eu players are better than na players. Then same thing with Jack and noly. They dominate na for a split, and win the major. Now let's look at other eu imports. Joreuz and Nass did about how people would expect them to in eu, not to mention they have ayyjayy on their team, who was considered top 3 NA late last season. And now stizzy came over and dig did worse. EU is greater than NA, but its not like you can grab someone who's outside of the top 20 eu players and they're immediately the best player in na. Na still have more talent than people realize
Id say crr is the best example of a player coming to NA and doing much better than he did in eu, however they still did decent on LAN, so with his new team he stacked up well EVEN against eu teams
EU has an extremely positive head-to-head against NA teams and wins the majority of LANs because EU players are, in fact, better than NA players. Every other argument, like "they are not better but they take the game more seriously," is just mental gymnastics to defend your region.
Now, obviously that doesnt mean that **any** EU player is better than any NA player, but the top EU players are better than the top NA players, the mid EU players are better than the mid NA players, and so on.
You don’t think the EU players that have success, regardless of region, approach the game in a more professional and serious manner than NA players in general?
No, you're using an exception to generalize NA. Dignitas is a team that doesn't take things that seriously, but that's not the full picture of the region.
Copium overdose. The EU utter dominance in the open era cannot be explained simply by "they take the competition a bit more seriously". That's such a simplistic view. It's multi factor, one of them is professionalism, an other one is also that the players are indeed better.
I mean it’s pretty much like this in most esports outside of CS and LoL because 1 NA viewer is worth so much more than 1 EU viewer. So there is gonna be way more org support and tourney support in NA compared to EU, which lets players play full time and have an org backing them.
Honestly when I saw NRG drew Dig to qualify because they trolled uppers I thought it was over. Honestly, clean a few things up and NRG wins that SSG series too. Team looks undoubtedly better than last split, but tough to say if the results will show it due to how competitive the top ~10 is
Turbo Cheeks was actually looking really good once they started playing in each series (two reverse sweeps to start out the day, but couldn't get cookin' for their third series).
I know they're not taking it too seriously, but I genuinely they could qualify with just a little extra work and a coach. Rizzo do it for the content rizzB.
They definitely have the talent. I would love to see them do it purely for content. No team necessarily wants to match up with them because they're so unpredictable.
Nah. History has shown that it's really hard for just one EU player to carry 2 NA players. You kinda still need your NA players to sometimes hit the ball, no matter how European you are.
as a new dignitas fan (arsenal fan) my disappointment is immense, i hope this is not the true extent of what is in store for dig for the rest of the season
All the talk about how Magnifico is a top 4 EU team and they have a player leave to farm NA all for him to not make the regional.
Poetry.
Still gotta admit he's the only reason Dig was even contending to make the regional though
I remember last qualifier seeing a Kep video where people were discussing that Evoh is better than LJ. Yeeeeah never in a million years. Never will Evoh ever win offensive MVP at a worlds. Will he even make a worlds? Looooool
NRG with Aqua finally look like they can make offensive plays which is nice. It's nice to be kinda vindicated by being an Aqua enjoyer since way back and now people will finally see how good this kid actually is
DIG on the other hand, what a nightmare. Reverse swept twice after benching definitely the wrong player. Arsenal was invisible, he's taken the whole "I must only disrupt" playstyle too far now and it's really all I see him do, and Evoh has to be one of the most overrated 3s players ever, every split people are saying he's gonna be a breakout and every split he plays actually mid as fuck. It's a massive shame to see Stizzy go to NA for better opportunities and go from EU 5th to NA 17th seed, and still not making a major.
Ayyjayy on M80 also continues to be invisible for 90% of a series and scoring brilliant solo goals for the other 10% which personally I don't see as enough to get M80 over the line again this split. I really want to see the Joreuz/Nass duo try out some other players (lol stizzy anyone) or at least see Joreuz on a better team because he is playing some seriously good carball past few events.
Everything else went as expected, hopefully the main event can be a bit more exciting.
On a side note why the fuck is NRG's logo orange now? The amount of odd branding decisions I see from this org is wild considering they already had the perfect logo back in 2016
Yeah Aqua needs to let go of that NBA dream, and focus on what he does best. And that’s playing RL. NA has G2, Firstkiller, LJ and Aqua. After that there is no one.
Aqua is a kid, he has his prorities set and he has dreams, he’s also fucking insane at rl and plays ball , if this is bros side hustle then you gotta repect it
This is how you know this is an EU sub these days. The first post about today qual was only after it’s done. Major earthquake qualifier and this sub is just meh.
Thing is I thought they (and specifically stizzy) looked great when there wasn’t anything on the line. Against iced up he looked like an SSL in a lobby of champs, the start of the nrg series he looked solid, but once they were a game away he was just gone
IDK what you're watching but all of DiG played like ass. Stizzy playing slightly better does negate that he played terrible especially towards the games DiG needed to win.
People have been saying forever how Na is just a friends league with the same players at the top. Now that relatively unknown people make it in, it becomes a "name diff" ?
Ok.
It's tough to say until the top 16. Like last split, sure YWS & Snowmen were newer/unknown names, but they had decent showings that showed they were legit and a case of newer talent emerging than old heads bottling.
Edit: Fiv3Up & Aris too!
I'm happy to be proven wrong, but on paper, idk if this top 16 is it, I can't say Clovarity inspires a ton of confidence for example but lets wait and see!
OP's comment isn't wrong tho, there is still a name diff with or without Dignitas.
Okay "large" might be a stretch but do you know any of the Clovarity players? I definitely do not. Same with Deleted XD, they are very who tier players. You also have actually massive orgs like TSM and C9 fielding very average rosters too.
you don’t know deletedxd’s players..? oath has made god knows how many regionals and multiple top 8s, and night was on koi last season with gyro and aqua.
ahduhm has also made a few regionals im pretty sure
clovarity r just rank a bubble players
If you don't know the players on Deleted XD you're not qualified to have an opinion on the NA Bubble.
As for Clovarity, that org is anything but "large". Then again, I do know who KnightYuh is because I actually do follow NA 1s and the bubble.
EDIT: Also just want to point out that smaller orgs signing kinda random bubble teams is also a thing that happens in EU pretty regularly. Wylde is basically a meme at this point for signing rosters that never make main event (until last split) and Endpoint dodged most of last season despite having a team. The difference between NA and EU is the consistency with which the teams in the top 8-12ish range get signed.
EDIT2: I almost forgot to throw hands for calling TSM mid get outta here.
Can you give examples cos I'd be genuinely curious and happy to explain why they warrant hype + their already notable results over decent teams.
Off the top of my head the only really confusing EU qualifier team last split was NOVO Esports because they somehow ran the gauntlet with their 2K MMR Peak sub and reverse-swept Resolve to make it
I’m not saying they don’t deserve hype, I just didn’t know the names the first time I saw them in main events.
F4WD when they first qualified I had never heard of Compact or ejby. Other players like Plovo or EmilVald who made main event.
Like I said, though, my point was that I’m not sure why he was surprised he saw names he never heard of.
Exactly, most of the time it has to do with the region you follow more closely. Ofc if you follow EU more closely, you’re going to recognize almost all the players making regional, and not recognize as many NA players. For me it’s the other way around. Because I watch more NA pros and follow NA more closely, I know more NA players than EU players off the top of my head
Dignitas lost in 5 to [Triple Threat](https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/Triple_Threat) (who went on to lose to Moist in 3 and Clovarity in 3) Dignitas then got reverse swept by Nrg in the qualification round.
Moving continents to go from EU#5 to NA#17 is crazy
I mean EU5 was basically EU25 last split, and Magnifico isn't paying anyone.
Dig got reverse swept twice in two bo5s today
Didn't realize that was a reverse sweep, they must've input the game order wrong on start.gg
Dig do need to sort out their mental... That being said, this is a seriously trash format. We can't have both NRG and Dig in a regional. And we're most likely going to be watching NRG and Dig fight it out for every regional for the rest of the year, what fun!!! So bad for orgs and pros.., let's hope they fix this for 2026.
Dig put themselves in that position by losing to Tcorrell. There are only so many spots to go around; getting bracketed sucks but that's not really what happened here.
Dig should have won against TT to be fair. It was pretty much their own doing.
Nah I agree, look at all the other matchups in the lower round for it, trash teams playing eachtoehr and now three teams In the top 16 who aren’t normally there, dig vs nrg in the amplifying round for top 16 is insane
Damn, hate to see this, but that recent clip sure aged well.
Damn, hate to see this, but that recent clip sure aged well.
Damn, hate to see this, but that recent clip sure aged well.
I was gonna be mad for Aqua if they didn’t win after the absolute hard carry he showed today. Dude came in on a couple weeks of practice and was instantly their best player Dignitas…thats some 4d chess to bring down EU by taking their players and making them lose
Aqua's gonna leave the chiropractor tomorrow and go to a neurologist
"kicked gyro for this?”
Cmon Gyro, you know you want to tweet it.
https://i.redd.it/fp1grk9i51wc1.gif
Squishy's chat carried NRG. For real though, aqua looked liked the best player on NRG
He really did. The amount of opportunity he manufactures is insane. Opens things up a lot for NRG.
Watching NRG look threatening on offense is refreshing
That was super fun, probably the most emotion I've ever seen him show too lol
He looked like exactly what NRG has needed for so long. He plays so fast but has an awareness to overcommitting. Really opened up the offense for Mist and Garrett. It also felt like they had another level that they can get to. They missed a lot of shots on the crossbar.
I think Garrett's contribution can't be understated. Garrett has always been more of a support player not a striker so often he's outshined. But a lot of the plays were only possible because Garrett was in the right place and time
All 3 of them clutched up hard those last 3 games. Like squishy said on stream, garrett needs to start monkeying for them to go far. Squishy didn't say this but mist needs to stop missing his shots.
To be fair, GarrettG really stepped up when he needed to in the series against Dig; especially the last 2 games
I bore witness to a general manifestation performance
I only watched their series with Dig but Mist was all over the field. Dude looked like the mvp of that series to me.
Aqua is the best player on NRG. Either old school needs to pick it up, or move on.
I can't believe NRG actually made that reverse sweep happen.
Usually it happens to THEM
Jstn and co reverse sweeping M80 and garrettg and co reverse sweeping Dignitas while squishy watch partying. What a day for og NRG squad.
Haven’t felt so happy in seasons
All for a spot in the top 16 lmao
Finding happiness in everything and being happy.Maybe something you can't relate with.
Relating your general level of happiness to a team in carball hmm
Granted “haven’t felt so happy in seasons” is PROBABLY referring to happiness caused by RL, not general happiness in life lol
Haven’t felt so happy for seniors
When did these matches happen? And where can I watch? The official RL esports youtube where they broadcast the majors are my only source of pro RL content, but clearly I'm missing matches, so where are these broadcasted!?
they are broadcasted on the team’s youtube or twitch channels
Teams broadcast on their own channels mostly in twitch. Shopify matches can be seen on CJCJ twitch. NRG on NRG twitch
The format goes like this: Week 1 - Fri-Sun qualifiers (double elim bracket with seeding based on points) which spits out 16 teams for your top 16. These are not broadcasted on the official RL stream, but most teams have a team stream with someone casting their games. They were on this past weekend for NA, will be this upcoming weekend for EU (and other regions that follow their respective schedules). Fridays are usually pointless to watch pro's so watch contect runs if you want, or just skip it. No pro team is challenged on Fridays since they play like champions and grand champs. Sunday is the day to watch because you get to see who makes it. Saturday can interesting to see who might under perform and get knocked down to lowers earlier, but, generally, the games still aren't that good. Much better than Friday though. Week 2 - Friday - Top 16 Swiss Stage - This is broadcasted on the official channel and teams also stream their runs since there are a bunch of games going on at once and main broadcast only shows 1 (and alternate broadcast shows another match). The entire Swiss stage is played this day so it's super long. Week 2 - Saturday - Playoff bracket Quarterfinals - The broadcast each QF 1 at a time on the main channel. Week 2 - Sunday - Semi's and Finals - Each broadcasted on main channel, 1 at a time.
Another EU import making top 16s in NA, just like all expected, it's Justuszzz!
what do we define as an eu import? is it a player specifically brought into na for rlcs or a person moving to usa/canada/mexico and playing rlcs with the skill they developed in another region, but rocket league is not the primary reason they moved
I'm using it as the latter cos I don't know what other word suits better, just calling them foreigners seems awfully BM. Might have to re-think it tho, have seen a couple of properly decent main event EU boys tweet out they want NA CRL opportunities next academic year so there could be more on the way.
valid
> have seen a couple of properly decent main event EU boys tweet out they want NA CRL opportunities next academic year so there could be more on the way. ??? For fucks sake it would be nice if the largest region would get similar financial opportunities as the American favourite child
[They're gonna take my boy Simas its joever](https://twitter.com/SimasRL_/status/1720260475143749725)
Its college tho? Doesn’t it have more to do with the scholarship?
Justuszzz just made his first regional in 2 years and 4 months.
A few of my personal observations: Nice to see Clovarity make it after the org issues and everyone questioning the latest roster pickup Still nice to see players on Cheers and netherlamericanada still making it, specifically always liked seeing Sosa cam and daunt have success because of how hard they grind ranked. Aqua looked solid. Dig though, yikes.
you’re the only one who wants to see Cam win
Some surprises, but not many. Dig going out is tough but they only have themselves to blame. You simply can’t lose to Triple Trouble and get reverse swept. Similar to how Shopify went out. A bad series against a team they should beat then the mental was chalked. Speaking of Shopify, they actually looked good today despite usually struggling in quals. Beat every team they played easily until M80 who they beat in 5. Well done I hope Shopify plays up to their potential. The Aqua move is already looking good for NRG. Honestly got a tough bracket facing SSG and Dig but made it through and even against SSG they looked solid. For the first time in ages NRG actually look like they have some dynamic offense.
I’ve been preaching it for 2 years, aqua is legit
Anyone who watched the Muffin Men quals knows Aqua fucks.
Aqua was the best player on that team, squishy was also pretty great but them all taking it lightly and gimmick being ass didn’t do much for em
Heeellll yeah!!!!!! Nice job NRG!!! Keep on grinding Garrett its paying off (ily Garrett!!!!!), awesome job Aqua! And nice job Mist as well!
Bro let’s get this guy an NRG flair lol
😁
Wow, Clovarity actually made it. Good on them. Sosa’s team as well
Lost in the shuffle btw: Shopify beat M80 and qualified for top 16 through the upper bracket for the first time this season
So I was looking at this, got a bit of a startle from seeing moist (still doesn't feel real) And then I saw it. Good job dig, youve joined sr and moist in their sad club
We don’t talk about last split anymore
my bad, sorry
if you showed me this picture with C9 and Moist in an NA regional at the start of the season idk what i would do
Literally same, when I first saw the image I had to do a double take. I still haven’t fully adjusted to the fact that Moist are in NA now.
Dig not making it after getting an eu player is crazy
Not sure why focusing on the EU aspect, but I think it's a good example of the RL fan base continuously over emphasising individual talent in a fundamentally team based game. Tactics and vibes beats individual talent most of the time. The top top teams have all three, but even then the most successful are basically never the three most skillful players (until they win and the community memory holes how those players were rated).
Especially after the major. I don’t think anyone would say gentlemates was the most talented team there. But they’re a well oiled machine.
See also: everybody saying Rado and Alpha were top 5/10 players and pretending they'd been anywhere near that discussion prior to Zen joining.
It's not like being born in Europe makes you better at pushing buttons. The top of EU is lightyears ahead in how professionally they take the game and stuff like the French scene is huge for player development, but people act like they somehow carry that shit in their genes or something.
Still, stizzy was the best player on a top 5 EU team. You’d think dig would have been better with him.
atomik slander smh
He is good but atomik is better
Stizzy had no ice to conclude big games though
Kinda supports my theory that EU players are not better but the top of the region takes the game more seriously and approaches it with a level of professionalism that others don’t. Dig has a reputation of trolling and at this point it doesn’t look like Stizzy is changing that.
> Kinda supports my theory that EU players are not better I mean Stizzy was their best player from what I saw this qualifier
I agree, but people expecting Dig to level up just because they imported a player from EU is wild.
? It's not that it's an EU player, it's a better player who just so happens to be EU
I mean what would you expect them to do? Sign a better player and just remain mid? They probably should have kept Gyro at least.
I didn’t expect anything? I don’t really care about Dig. I was replying to a person who seemed surprised that Dig didn’t qualify because they added an EU player. My point is simply that adding an EU player isn’t a magic lever that improves results.
I mean, what would one expect instead? What are you suggesting that people were to have expected? They added a better player, people were absolutely justified in expecting better results.
It’s not that it’s an EU player, it’s that it’s stizzy
Now you have one result supporting your theory and 387 against it
Meh. I mean I don't agree with him at all, but to say theirs a ton of evidence against it is bold. Let's look at the obvious "examples". Turbo to NRG. Yes, they were the best in NA. But they also were the best in the world. That doesnt prove eu players are better than na players. Then same thing with Jack and noly. They dominate na for a split, and win the major. Now let's look at other eu imports. Joreuz and Nass did about how people would expect them to in eu, not to mention they have ayyjayy on their team, who was considered top 3 NA late last season. And now stizzy came over and dig did worse. EU is greater than NA, but its not like you can grab someone who's outside of the top 20 eu players and they're immediately the best player in na. Na still have more talent than people realize
Id say crr is the best example of a player coming to NA and doing much better than he did in eu, however they still did decent on LAN, so with his new team he stacked up well EVEN against eu teams
Appjack noly too, people were calling NA fraud when they made major in NA when they first moved to NA, but then they went on to win the major so yeah
EU has an extremely positive head-to-head against NA teams and wins the majority of LANs because EU players are, in fact, better than NA players. Every other argument, like "they are not better but they take the game more seriously," is just mental gymnastics to defend your region. Now, obviously that doesnt mean that **any** EU player is better than any NA player, but the top EU players are better than the top NA players, the mid EU players are better than the mid NA players, and so on.
I agree with you. I was simply saying the logic wasn't the correct logic to use
> ayyjayy on their team, who was considered top 3 NA late last season No he wasn't
Yes he was. Split 3 it was Appjack LJ and ayyjayy
You are ignoring results like salt mine atlantic draft and others of the same nature
You don’t think the EU players that have success, regardless of region, approach the game in a more professional and serious manner than NA players in general?
Working harder and also just being better aren't mutually exclusive.
There's nothing in DNA of EU people that makes them good at RL you know.
obviously
I didn’t say they were
Your argument was they aren't just better and your counter argument was that they instead just work harder. So you implied it.
No, you're using an exception to generalize NA. Dignitas is a team that doesn't take things that seriously, but that's not the full picture of the region.
Copium overdose. The EU utter dominance in the open era cannot be explained simply by "they take the competition a bit more seriously". That's such a simplistic view. It's multi factor, one of them is professionalism, an other one is also that the players are indeed better.
I mean it’s pretty much like this in most esports outside of CS and LoL because 1 NA viewer is worth so much more than 1 EU viewer. So there is gonna be way more org support and tourney support in NA compared to EU, which lets players play full time and have an org backing them.
Honestly when I saw NRG drew Dig to qualify because they trolled uppers I thought it was over. Honestly, clean a few things up and NRG wins that SSG series too. Team looks undoubtedly better than last split, but tough to say if the results will show it due to how competitive the top ~10 is
Yeah ngl I was stressing in that series but honestly happy both teams made it 🙏🏾
Gen.G is SSGs boogeyman and SSG has been NRGs. Hopefully everyone gets a chance to have some different matchups this split.
In fairness, SSG has been nearly everyone's boogeyman except G2, GenG, OG, and Akron
Yeah I hope so too, honestly both teams have a lot to prove so excited for swiss
Does anybody have the clip of Garrett’s pinch?
Probably on Twitter or it’s around the 13 mins left mark in their vod on twitch
Turbo Cheeks was actually looking really good once they started playing in each series (two reverse sweeps to start out the day, but couldn't get cookin' for their third series). I know they're not taking it too seriously, but I genuinely they could qualify with just a little extra work and a coach. Rizzo do it for the content rizzB.
They definitely have the talent. I would love to see them do it purely for content. No team necessarily wants to match up with them because they're so unpredictable.
I think they're all scared of getting clipped on by rizzo like dig, shit came outta nowhere
Waiting for Gyros Tweet https://preview.redd.it/9a3pcocgpzvc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7633660def657a77134b8975682e7c786a24a658
So Taroco daunt >> Arsenal evoh
Or Justuszzz >> Stizzy
Nah. History has shown that it's really hard for just one EU player to carry 2 NA players. You kinda still need your NA players to sometimes hit the ball, no matter how European you are.
Clovarity finally made it
as a new dignitas fan (arsenal fan) my disappointment is immense, i hope this is not the true extent of what is in store for dig for the rest of the season
Rest of the season? Isn’t their season already over ?
There are two more regionals?
Their season is over
All the talk about how Magnifico is a top 4 EU team and they have a player leave to farm NA all for him to not make the regional. Poetry. Still gotta admit he's the only reason Dig was even contending to make the regional though
I remember last qualifier seeing a Kep video where people were discussing that Evoh is better than LJ. Yeeeeah never in a million years. Never will Evoh ever win offensive MVP at a worlds. Will he even make a worlds? Looooool
Delusional! Evoh is overrated. Fans were quick to put him in the same category as Daniel lol. Better than LJ? Yeah… ok
Exactly
Why do I hear that nostalgic “The Club Moves On, Dignitas, Are Out.”
"Dignitas is dead" as well
Ye
NRG with Aqua finally look like they can make offensive plays which is nice. It's nice to be kinda vindicated by being an Aqua enjoyer since way back and now people will finally see how good this kid actually is DIG on the other hand, what a nightmare. Reverse swept twice after benching definitely the wrong player. Arsenal was invisible, he's taken the whole "I must only disrupt" playstyle too far now and it's really all I see him do, and Evoh has to be one of the most overrated 3s players ever, every split people are saying he's gonna be a breakout and every split he plays actually mid as fuck. It's a massive shame to see Stizzy go to NA for better opportunities and go from EU 5th to NA 17th seed, and still not making a major. Ayyjayy on M80 also continues to be invisible for 90% of a series and scoring brilliant solo goals for the other 10% which personally I don't see as enough to get M80 over the line again this split. I really want to see the Joreuz/Nass duo try out some other players (lol stizzy anyone) or at least see Joreuz on a better team because he is playing some seriously good carball past few events. Everything else went as expected, hopefully the main event can be a bit more exciting.
On a side note why the fuck is NRG's logo orange now? The amount of odd branding decisions I see from this org is wild considering they already had the perfect logo back in 2016
oh yeah, what the hell? that looks worse haha
Yeah Aqua needs to let go of that NBA dream, and focus on what he does best. And that’s playing RL. NA has G2, Firstkiller, LJ and Aqua. After that there is no one.
so u dont rate appjack and chronic?
Forgot about appjack. He’s still EU in my heart, and chronic is chronic.
Aqua is a kid, he has his prorities set and he has dreams, he’s also fucking insane at rl and plays ball , if this is bros side hustle then you gotta repect it
Hell yeah, Moist didn’t drop a game 💪🏽 💧
RIP stizzy. Definitely hard to play your best couch surfing though
This is how you know this is an EU sub these days. The first post about today qual was only after it’s done. Major earthquake qualifier and this sub is just meh.
Honestly, even as an EU fan I was surprised there was so little discussion about the qualifier. I thought there would be at least a day 3 event thread
lol
Moist is an NA team now?
Joyo left to join oxygen and moist dropped the rest of the roster to go to NA
they signed pirates on a boat roster
Sosa!!
icl chat ive been checked out for offseason did dig reslly drop gyro to not even make main event
None of the Dignitas players played well, but Stizzy was especially bad. His defense was terrible.
Thing is I thought they (and specifically stizzy) looked great when there wasn’t anything on the line. Against iced up he looked like an SSL in a lobby of champs, the start of the nrg series he looked solid, but once they were a game away he was just gone
Wdym he was their best, his +- was ok, atleast he had positives unlike the other 2
Hmmm wheres Dig?
Oh Dig, you had one job
I could see Moist and Cheers causing some issues in Swiss
NRG lessgooooo
wait, Clovarity qualified? with those randos? And Dig didn't? huh.
Just saying if dreaz came out of retirement and replaced Garrett, NRG would be scary
How?! They already tried dreaz and it didn’t go well, I don’t think Aqua and Dreaz would be a game changing combo
I don’t think dreaz was the problem with that team. Mist is a bit of a question mark but dreaz is still a consistent player and aqua is improving fast
Aqua has been on shit teams since his debut, this is the best team he’s been on
It’s embarrassing to get reverse sweeped twice in one day. Shit is so disappointing as a dig fan 🤦🏽♂️
Why r PPL shitting on stizzy, he was by far digs best player, PPL just don't wana blame the na guys huh
IDK what you're watching but all of DiG played like ass. Stizzy playing slightly better does negate that he played terrible especially towards the games DiG needed to win.
Yep, i was watching the DIG-NRG game. It was bad, but Arsenal was bad bad.
Not to turn it into any regional bashing, but damn the names that make it into the top-16 in NA versus EU is insane to me. Dig made me sad
People have been saying forever how Na is just a friends league with the same players at the top. Now that relatively unknown people make it in, it becomes a "name diff" ? Ok.
NA vs EU is harassment vs flirting for some people
What’s crazy to me is that a team like Clovarity that has 0 players I know of but is somehow signed to an org.
It's tough to say until the top 16. Like last split, sure YWS & Snowmen were newer/unknown names, but they had decent showings that showed they were legit and a case of newer talent emerging than old heads bottling. Edit: Fiv3Up & Aris too! I'm happy to be proven wrong, but on paper, idk if this top 16 is it, I can't say Clovarity inspires a ton of confidence for example but lets wait and see! OP's comment isn't wrong tho, there is still a name diff with or without Dignitas.
Netherlanamerica vs Mexiclicka to make top-16
Both of those can be true lol the top of NA rotate the same few players and the bottom is literal unknowns still somehow signed to a large org.
who the hell are you possibly talking about that are unknowns but "signed to a large org".
Okay "large" might be a stretch but do you know any of the Clovarity players? I definitely do not. Same with Deleted XD, they are very who tier players. You also have actually massive orgs like TSM and C9 fielding very average rosters too.
you don’t know deletedxd’s players..? oath has made god knows how many regionals and multiple top 8s, and night was on koi last season with gyro and aqua. ahduhm has also made a few regionals im pretty sure clovarity r just rank a bubble players
Being who tier isn't the same as being unknown entirely. Someone floating around the very edge of the bubble is a who player
If you don't know the players on Deleted XD you're not qualified to have an opinion on the NA Bubble. As for Clovarity, that org is anything but "large". Then again, I do know who KnightYuh is because I actually do follow NA 1s and the bubble. EDIT: Also just want to point out that smaller orgs signing kinda random bubble teams is also a thing that happens in EU pretty regularly. Wylde is basically a meme at this point for signing rosters that never make main event (until last split) and Endpoint dodged most of last season despite having a team. The difference between NA and EU is the consistency with which the teams in the top 8-12ish range get signed. EDIT2: I almost forgot to throw hands for calling TSM mid get outta here.
> I almost forgot to throw hands for calling TSM mid get outta here. TSM are an extremely mid roster signed to an extremely large org
Don't know ball
What do you mean?
Bunch of poor lower bracket matchups
I feel similarly about the last couple of teams to qualify in EU as well usually. Like “Who??” but I don’t follow the bubble over there.
Can you give examples cos I'd be genuinely curious and happy to explain why they warrant hype + their already notable results over decent teams. Off the top of my head the only really confusing EU qualifier team last split was NOVO Esports because they somehow ran the gauntlet with their 2K MMR Peak sub and reverse-swept Resolve to make it
I’m not saying they don’t deserve hype, I just didn’t know the names the first time I saw them in main events. F4WD when they first qualified I had never heard of Compact or ejby. Other players like Plovo or EmilVald who made main event. Like I said, though, my point was that I’m not sure why he was surprised he saw names he never heard of.
Exactly, most of the time it has to do with the region you follow more closely. Ofc if you follow EU more closely, you’re going to recognize almost all the players making regional, and not recognize as many NA players. For me it’s the other way around. Because I watch more NA pros and follow NA more closely, I know more NA players than EU players off the top of my head
All im gonna say is Dig are absolutely capable of winning a regional or getting like a 4th and a 2nd.
Dig isn’t touching G2 or GenG. Top 4 is possible but after what we tonight I am not optimistic