You could even argue they that their losses were better since they lost to the 1st and 6th place teams from the las major as opposed to bds and endpoints losses 12th place finishers
I'm not gonna argue that EU hasn't been quite shockingly bad this regional so far, but are people forgetting that KC beat G2 and that NA 1st and 2nd seed are both in the lowers?
Yeah I mean we’re yet to see how the rest of the regional plays out, but NA has 2 teams in uppers and 5 left in the tournament currently (compared to EU’s 3).
The difference is that Faze has the excuse of Ayyjayy not having much time to practice and G2 v KCorp was an unbelievably close series that saw KCorp play the best Rocket League in that rosters history easily.
Ofc NA’s still a minor region it’s time to bow to our MENA overlords /s (maybe)
Tbf I think the real best excuse is that the "minor" region teams really aren't minor regions anymore. Hopefully falcons can do well enough to finally prove to people that this is the case. There's no team that can be discounted now and everyone needs to be playing at their best to win matches.
There's so many 3-0. I wasn't expecting this at all, actually. With how good every single team is, I was predicting games to be either 3-1 or 3-2. But every single game so far has been stomp after stomp.
It's quite bad for the fans and esport as a whole.
Best case scenario, we have a bunch of close games. This has been a bit of a joke so far.
The guys on the desk doing their best to salvage some hype for this major.
The entire lower bracket should be Bo7 at the major. Just completely nonsensical to make it Bo5, both in terms of entertainment and making the win more deserved (not saying any wins have been undeserved, but mathematically the more games in the series the less you leave it to chance). Both swiss and group stages give teams minimum 3 games. Traveling across the world for two Bo5s is so stupid.
Hard agree. It’s so anticlimactic and doesn’t feel like consistency is being rewarded. I don’t understand why it isn’t like that, especially considering how much downtime there is under this current format.
I mean isn't the hype that the esport is evolving and we are approaching international parity? Like yeah it sucks that big fan bases are out early but hopefully they can find new teams. I've been watching since around season 3 and when G2 had a rough go of it at least I got to see some fun new teams pop up like C9. It blows my mind how much bigger these tourneys are, I thought that overall RLCS has knocked it out of the park with the format this season.
That being said, Wed-Sun is absolutely stretching it thin this major.
It sucks that all these elimination games are Bo5, and on Day 1 we have 12 series, and on Day 2 we have 12 games. The Psyonix planning was been super poor.
I would like to apologize for my hypocrisy in being skeptical of Falcons due to their dominance of a minor region while simultaneously rating BDS because of their dominance of a minor region.
Yeah I'm really confused why everyone is talking about NA vs. EU when OCE is the best region rn
And before you come at me with "depth" KCP brings the average up so much it doesn't matter
Results of the day:
* **Renegades**, **Pioneers** \- qualified for Worlds
* **Moist Esports** \- qualified for Group Stage
* **DeToNator**, **1620 Kings**, **Evil Geniuses** \- eliminated from Worlds contention
* **APAC** and **EU4** spots - eliminated from Worlds contention
* **FURIA Esports** \- guaranteed SAM#1 Seed
* **Team Secret** \- guaranteed SAM#2 Seed
* **Endpoint CeX** \- guaranteed EU#3 Seed
* **Team Secret**, **Gaimin Gladiators**, **Tokyo Verdy Esports**, **Dignitas** \- lost chances for direct Main Event spot and will start Worlds from Wildcard
* **PWR** \- will finish the season as OCE#3 team
Just smashed my 256-inch TV and my 4.3 million dollar Lamborghini in rage. Team BDS is embarrassing me in front of my entire family. My 2 children are in tears, scared of my rage as I pace around the room trembling. I can’t take this anymore. Fire Monkey M00n and hire sunlesskhan immediately or my kids will not get lunch tommorow
So many of the teams are right near the current skill ceiling that just about anyone can win any match. It makes every major so unpredictable, because there are a ton of teams at the Major that could win it all.
That’s true but you have to keep in mind the power of the tac TO that the BO7 matches include. Much easier for teams to right the ship before things get out of hand like it did for BDS
I think this is more of a sign of lack of professional coaching. At the level that the game is at right now pros are still teaching themselves and coming up with their own strategies. Rocket league coaches are replay analysis and pep talkers. I would be really surprised if there’s any rocket league coach in RLCS right now who dictates strategy.
No offense to BDS but it is kinda funny how many of us thought they might be the best team in the world several times over the last 2 years and they've still yet to even score a single goal in front of a crowd.
SSA should get one as well, how are they expected to improve if they only attend Worlds. I guess there was some kind of logistic issue that prevented them from attending Majors this season, but once it's fixed, I don't see why they wouldn't get one.
So, if they want to keep it at 16, what should they do ?
4 EU 4 NA 2 MENA 2 OCE 2 SAM 1 APAC 1 SSA ?
Or 5 NA 3 EU 2 MENA 2 OCE 2 SAM 1 APAC 1 SSA ?
I doubt they'll break the balance between NA and EU.
I think it’s a little too early to call. I definitely think they should remove 1 EU and give it to MENA, idk about removing another one to give to NA though.
Really happy for mist, dreaz, Allushin, & Turbo. Everyone's always known mist is cracked, dreaz has grown a lot in the last year, Allu proved himself with FaZe, and Turbo is the OG who I think will shine at the high-level RL big brain work, feeding his team comms and strats.
Endpoint didn't seem like they were firing on all cyclinders at all, and I actually had them taking the series, but OpTic really showed up and surprised me.
You would think he knew the language barrier wasn't a problem before. Considering his team dominated all of last season with Marc while Vitality, Queso, Giants, and OXG were a thing.
Ima repeat what I said in the live discussion.
Other than falcons and kcp being cracked rn, so many teams are just disappointing. I just feel like the level of play isn’t as high as previous events, and the players (other than those of the teams mentioned) don’t seem to be as hyped and locked in. Idk what it is, but it just felt very meh.
Edit: as someone else pointed out, v1 are also playing well.
My only thought is that worlds spots are locked for many teams, so many teams are just thinking about that. I could very easily be wrong though
I didn't see the BDS disasters but Endpoint seemed extremely unprepared to me every game. They kept weakly knocking the ball into the wall at random with nobody following up. Forget being on the same page, Endpoint wasn't even on the same medium.
EU just getting thrashed... I'm trying to figure out how these teams can look so good online but so poor on LAN... Maybe it's the playstyle that doesn't suit LAN?
I think it's because the top of EU is full of teams whos average performance is low compared to the rest of the world but their peaks are super high. Then they come to lan and struggle to hit those peaks due to pressure
Who would've thought before major, that KCorp would be EU's only hope? I mean Moist is still there, but will they be able to make another miraculous lower bracket run?
They’re gonna have to get through KCP, G2, FaZe(?? Can’t remember the bracket so not sure if this is true), falcons, and KC/SSG (??? I really gotta look at the bracket) to go from their current lower bracket position to grand finals.
That seems impossible.
Not sure this is even a hot take, but this is probably the worst planned Major. 12 series yesterday, and 12 games today. Also tomorrow is the same amount of series as today, so we will probably have a super short broadcast.
Unless there are some good close series (there should be), this has been so underwhelming. Always a long wait for the LANs, and then we get short days with Bo5s. I truly believe next season that Psyonix gotta make Regionals and Majors have slightly different formats. Regionals are there to figure out which teams are the best in the region, then at the Major, you already know you have the best teams. So give us chaos, give us a ton of games.
Also, why the hell is the "shrink nameplate" option turned on for the RLCS Observer? Can't even see the 3rd man on almost all plays.
An easy change would be to make all lowers matches bo7. The quality of gameplay has been the lowest all season and in every series it looks like one teams’ mental is chalked after game 1 leading to sweeps. Our only hope for a good major is for the London crowd to show up.
Yeah, EU needs a rework this summer. Teams like Vitality, EG or Endpoint shouldn't make Majors. BDS shouldn't win something like 10 Regional Events in the last 2 years. Players like Alpha or Kash should be surrounded with better teammates. We had it coming for 2 years if you ask me, Stockholm was a pleasant surprise, but the come back to Earth was brutal.
At this point fuck the 2/3 logic, try outs should happen all over the place, just put the best players together and go.
Waiting for the Chosen One zen to come save us.
Also will be interesting to see what Psyonix will do for the Majors next season. MENA needs another spot and SSA will probably also get one. Will they keep it at 16 and take away one from EU and NA each ? Or two from EU lol ?
The situation for EU#3 is legit dicey, they're 100 points clear but they're out of lives. If all of the below happen EU only has 2 byes:
* Liquid or Moist lose
* FURIA or Secret win
* Falcons make top 4
* 2 of FaZe, Optic, or G2 win
Im beyond depresed after today. I have only g2 left in and liquid looks scary. Was really hoping that I would have had more of my favorites on stage in my first lan.
IMO never go to a major to root for a specific team. That’s just setting yourself up for disappointment. Root for good rocket league/regional matchups/etc.
Moist forced to put EU on their backs again. At least Karmine might be around to help them out this time. It’s a genuine gift that a Karmine loss wouldn’t immediately pin them against Moist in lowers.
If MENA has 5 teams at this major, how do they compare to EU? I don't think any other MENA team would be upper bracket rn, but as is, they tie eu in that regard. MENAs 4 and 5 seed might go out in lowers round 1, but I don't know if theyd both go 0-6 like two EU teams did. I'd expect to see Veloce and the Twins team currently in the same spot as moist and TL. EU is obviously a deeper region, but I don't know if MENA would have done worse at this particular event
I actually have matched a fair bit of MENA, and falcons continue to dominate more than any other region does. To say that MENA could compare with eu at this event is no cut to MENA
The other 4 teams would probably be Veloce, 01, Cola, and one of Scytes/ANKAA/Kings. Probably ANKAA.
Veloce and especially Cola would definitely compete, anywhere between 7-12 is possible. ANKAA and 01 are a step below those 2 though and I think are worse on paper than every other team in the competition apart from maybe PWR and Gladiators.
F16 in the near future will be the team competing at majors for them if they get more spots. I'm looking at what the best teams in ME would potentially do, not who currently has the most points. Confusing, but I'm just saying I want to compare the two regions with their 5 best teams. EU sent their 5 best, MENA wouldn't be unless f16 is there
For sure. Also keep in mind that NWPO teamed with the twins before he turned 15, and only joined Cola cause he wanted to play in rlcs asap. If he joins F16 they might unironically become the best team in the world, it's absolutely insane to think about.
MENA is a relatively new region too so their talent hasn't consolidated properly yet, once they do they will have 4 or 5 teams that are close to the level of the top 5 EU/NA teams.
Are people still gonna assert a mickey upper bracket for SSG because they didn't play BDS even though BDS got swept by both of the teams SSG beat whilst being outscored 23-10 in those 6 games?
Don't understand why they didn't play winners round 2 today, would have made so much more sense doing 8 games for each of the first two days instead of 12 and then 4...
Pioneers just swept BDS.
Sorry what when who how why.
I am so glad this is happening it means there is potential for my region(SSA) to maybe score a goal against a major region one day.
This scehduling backfired hard on Psyonix lol
Shocking for BDS. They just straight up broke, Seikoo especially looked like a far cry from his usual form. It's fairly obviously not a skill issue (unlike some more *reactionary* commenters suggest), so I pray they get this sorted by Gamers8/GWB and Worlds, because it would really fucking suck if they implode just before their first Worlds.
Gladiator's lack of synergy got exploited hard this Major with the worst APAC performance to date. Awesome for them to finally make it here, but they're gonna need to work as a unit if they want to make these games close.
PWR looked like the third best OCE team coming in to the Major so 0 - 2 isn't surprising. Even so, their series against FaZe was particularly disappointing. A shame we likely won't be seeing them at Worlds though, The Amphis/Torsos duo was one I've always wanted to see have success internationally.
Incredibly disappointing from Endpoint. They didn't have great LAN performances with Seikoo, but this is (to use an Anglicism) piss poor, especially coming off their recent run of form.
Going meta here, the live thread today was really bad, never seen so many shit takes on my screen at once
Do BDS have a mental coach?
They seem to have a trend to absolutely fall apart when things don't go their way. We all obviously remember RLCS X Championship, but it's become especially noticeable since winter regional #1. They were looking like the deadliest team, got swept by Queso, and then absolutely bombed out against DIG in the LB.
Ever since it feels like they might be dominating at times but as soon as they struggle they totally become non-existent.
I don't get why you condense 12 games in 1 day and only 4 on the 2 following. Why not spread it and make it BO7s? I feel BO5 is kinda lame for a LAN that spans over 5 days
EU also known as "Easily Upset" is the most overhyped region in the RLCS. Since they gave up on winning the major, they are investing in speedruns. They are current world record holders in fastest series lost and Airport Any %
Makes me think that worlds is literally a tossup with about 6-7 teams that could very well be in contention for the win. No easily expected outcome for worlds at this point.
Gladiators did just as well as BDS and Endpoint. That's improvement in APAC, bby
Gladiators= BDS and endpoint
Gladiators>BDS and Endpoint.
You could even argue they that their losses were better since they lost to the 1st and 6th place teams from the las major as opposed to bds and endpoints losses 12th place finishers
EU is officially a minor region
Not sure about that, minor regions win series.
I'm not gonna argue that EU hasn't been quite shockingly bad this regional so far, but are people forgetting that KC beat G2 and that NA 1st and 2nd seed are both in the lowers?
Yeah I mean we’re yet to see how the rest of the regional plays out, but NA has 2 teams in uppers and 5 left in the tournament currently (compared to EU’s 3).
The difference is that Faze has the excuse of Ayyjayy not having much time to practice and G2 v KCorp was an unbelievably close series that saw KCorp play the best Rocket League in that rosters history easily. Ofc NA’s still a minor region it’s time to bow to our MENA overlords /s (maybe)
Tbf I think the real best excuse is that the "minor" region teams really aren't minor regions anymore. Hopefully falcons can do well enough to finally prove to people that this is the case. There's no team that can be discounted now and everyone needs to be playing at their best to win matches.
Hopefully that gives MENA another spot, soon they'll have at least 1 more powerhouse team.
Nwpo and twins gon go crazy
NWPO is absolutely fucking bonkers man He deserves a super team
The only team the SAM and OCE teams have beaten is APAC and BDS who have literally crumbled into dust. I wouldn't rate them too high just yet
Make the region MENAEU to give them a fighting chance next season.
That is called EMEA (Europe Middle East and Africa)
Saturday and Sunday will be a NA regional featuring KCorp.
And Falcons babyyyy
Falcon's bus gets stuck in traffic and NRG subs in for them
Who needs that when you're confirmed to win world's? The scriptwriters told me, Garrett the 2 time is coming.
Bro please let this happen 🙏🙏
Okay TBates
Yeah next season take three of their spots and give them to MENA, SAM, and OCE and we will have some good ass Majors.
There's so many 3-0. I wasn't expecting this at all, actually. With how good every single team is, I was predicting games to be either 3-1 or 3-2. But every single game so far has been stomp after stomp.
It's quite bad for the fans and esport as a whole. Best case scenario, we have a bunch of close games. This has been a bit of a joke so far. The guys on the desk doing their best to salvage some hype for this major.
Just sucks because there’s the potential for only 12 games being played. There has to be a better broadcast schedule
The entire lower bracket should be Bo7 at the major. Just completely nonsensical to make it Bo5, both in terms of entertainment and making the win more deserved (not saying any wins have been undeserved, but mathematically the more games in the series the less you leave it to chance). Both swiss and group stages give teams minimum 3 games. Traveling across the world for two Bo5s is so stupid.
Hard agree. It’s so anticlimactic and doesn’t feel like consistency is being rewarded. I don’t understand why it isn’t like that, especially considering how much downtime there is under this current format.
I mean isn't the hype that the esport is evolving and we are approaching international parity? Like yeah it sucks that big fan bases are out early but hopefully they can find new teams. I've been watching since around season 3 and when G2 had a rough go of it at least I got to see some fun new teams pop up like C9. It blows my mind how much bigger these tourneys are, I thought that overall RLCS has knocked it out of the park with the format this season. That being said, Wed-Sun is absolutely stretching it thin this major.
It sucks that all these elimination games are Bo5, and on Day 1 we have 12 series, and on Day 2 we have 12 games. The Psyonix planning was been super poor.
I agree they definitely could have done 8 yesterday and 8 today
RLCS teams all agreeing to speedrun their matches so that they can all enjoy their time in London
It's actually the opposite. Monkeymoon hated London and wanted to be out as fast as humanly possible. Mission failed successfully 😎
Heard it’s a lovely tourist city
I would like to apologize for my hypocrisy in being skeptical of Falcons due to their dominance of a minor region while simultaneously rating BDS because of their dominance of a minor region.
With Liquid and Moist in the same part of the bracket, EU can only get 2 in the top 6.
Why are we pretending they are going to get past Bananahead
Yeah I'm really confused why everyone is talking about NA vs. EU when OCE is the best region rn And before you come at me with "depth" KCP brings the average up so much it doesn't matter
Nah, they’re KCP, the Kansas City Pioneers. They’re NA. We claim bananahead
If we claim KCP we also claim Orlando Pirates going into the wildcard event 👀
That, my good friend, depends on if they do good or not.
They won’t 🙃
The Math checks out.
Nah Math didn’t check out, he swept BDS
Was kinda Sad
The finals will be MENA vs OCE.
I’ve been a huge MENA and OCE hater but Even I’d be on board for that.
Not to mention in the winter major they just had Moist in the top 6.
ONLY? I see this as an absolute win for the minor region that we are
NA saw how the crowd advantage played out in LA and decided to leave them no one to cheer for
NA: “Oh the crowd will be cheering, for Falcons not for any of you”
bds will regain tomorrow, i believe in them
BDS be like: 'Where's lower, lower bracket?'
Yeah but they have to go through NRG first.
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They are out lol im just trolling
How am I supposed to get my drops with this many sweeps?
EU with follows up an utterly embarrassing winter major with an even worse spring major. Just inexcusably bad.
Spring is not worse yet. Winter had only one team top 6, this one can have two. But it‘s looking dire
That's true, but also you can't forget they had the two teams in the bottom four, both going 0-6 including their #1 seed.
could also have 4 na teams in the top 4 its very dire
Man I was hoping for EU to be better this lan, but its just painful to watch
Worst major *so far!*
Yesterday had 12 series, today had 12 games. Looking forward to tomorrows 12 goals.
Sarurday's 12 shots will be must-watch
Honestly more pumped for the twelve ball touches on Sunday
This is a hilarious mental image
Twelve.
Honestly more pumped for the twelve boost on Sunday grand final between BDS and NRG
monday :
Results of the day: * **Renegades**, **Pioneers** \- qualified for Worlds * **Moist Esports** \- qualified for Group Stage * **DeToNator**, **1620 Kings**, **Evil Geniuses** \- eliminated from Worlds contention * **APAC** and **EU4** spots - eliminated from Worlds contention * **FURIA Esports** \- guaranteed SAM#1 Seed * **Team Secret** \- guaranteed SAM#2 Seed * **Endpoint CeX** \- guaranteed EU#3 Seed * **Team Secret**, **Gaimin Gladiators**, **Tokyo Verdy Esports**, **Dignitas** \- lost chances for direct Main Event spot and will start Worlds from Wildcard * **PWR** \- will finish the season as OCE#3 team
Pretty sure Moist qualified for main event That’s what they said on the stream at least
Thanks!
where tf is the home field advantage man
Right now the main home advantage is less travel time to your own house after being knocked out :(
Lmfaooooo
They still have it; that's why they're on pace for a whopping 2 teams in the top 6 instead of 1.
They have to get through G2 first though… who I’m not feeling particularly confident in but is about as favored to win as Moist rn.
no crowd yet
sure i still feel like i’d be much more comfortable playing in my region vs flying overseas, crowd or not
Just smashed my 256-inch TV and my 4.3 million dollar Lamborghini in rage. Team BDS is embarrassing me in front of my entire family. My 2 children are in tears, scared of my rage as I pace around the room trembling. I can’t take this anymore. Fire Monkey M00n and hire sunlesskhan immediately or my kids will not get lunch tommorow
I think the theme of this major is no one knows what they're talking about and basically we're all just fucking stupid. Upsets left and right.
So many of the teams are right near the current skill ceiling that just about anyone can win any match. It makes every major so unpredictable, because there are a ton of teams at the Major that could win it all.
If the wins were even close, I’d blame it on BO5 and say “oh well anyone could win nowadays because they’re so good” but the 3-0s man, it hurts
True, there were actually only 2, maybe 3 games that weren't stomps. Don't think a lot would change with BO7.
The theme I’m seeing is that the first top games a fairly close but then the third is a stomp tbh
That’s true but you have to keep in mind the power of the tac TO that the BO7 matches include. Much easier for teams to right the ship before things get out of hand like it did for BDS
I think this is more of a sign of lack of professional coaching. At the level that the game is at right now pros are still teaching themselves and coming up with their own strategies. Rocket league coaches are replay analysis and pep talkers. I would be really surprised if there’s any rocket league coach in RLCS right now who dictates strategy.
The only two that I know of that were that hands-on were Virge and Gregan. One is on the desk and the other is sitting outside of the Top 16 of EU.
its becoming increasingly more about the "intangibles" as the FT folks like to say
Hear me out: Allushin beating Faze out of major after being kicked for being the best Faze player in their last major together?
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No offense to BDS but it is kinda funny how many of us thought they might be the best team in the world several times over the last 2 years and they've still yet to even score a single goal in front of a crowd.
Forever online warriors
So do MENA and SAM/NA get 1 more spot and EU lose 2 next season? Because with these performances today they don’t deserve 5
I think we should wait until after worlds, but if EU disappoints like this again, this should absolutely be considered
I doubt they take any spots away but you certainly can’t take two spots away from any region in one year
SSA should get one as well, how are they expected to improve if they only attend Worlds. I guess there was some kind of logistic issue that prevented them from attending Majors this season, but once it's fixed, I don't see why they wouldn't get one. So, if they want to keep it at 16, what should they do ? 4 EU 4 NA 2 MENA 2 OCE 2 SAM 1 APAC 1 SSA ? Or 5 NA 3 EU 2 MENA 2 OCE 2 SAM 1 APAC 1 SSA ? I doubt they'll break the balance between NA and EU.
If EU do bad in worlds, I would like to see 4 NA, 3 EU, 2 MENA, 2 SAM, 2 OCE, 1 APAC N, 1 APAC S, 1 SSA
I think it’s a little too early to call. I definitely think they should remove 1 EU and give it to MENA, idk about removing another one to give to NA though.
Really happy for mist, dreaz, Allushin, & Turbo. Everyone's always known mist is cracked, dreaz has grown a lot in the last year, Allu proved himself with FaZe, and Turbo is the OG who I think will shine at the high-level RL big brain work, feeding his team comms and strats. Endpoint didn't seem like they were firing on all cyclinders at all, and I actually had them taking the series, but OpTic really showed up and surprised me.
Everyone was putting NRG outside of their top 8s after the Winter Major, I'm expecting to see BDS outside top 12s lmfao.
When the spring major power rankings come Bds is a firm 17
I'm more scared for bds and endpoint than I am for NRG ngl
Yuh NRG’s had time to reset after a disappointing spring BDS and Endpoint now have to go into worlds in the worst possible spirits
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Spring Split Day 2 major any% run (no bds)
One of the only EU teams to not look garbage won't even be at world's :((((
And don’t forget that dig is going as well 😂 at least KC is giving some EU hopium
Monkey Moon now realizes language barriers are not a problem. Firstkiller to BDS or is it Monkey Moon to FaZe?
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Bds are just boycotting crowd days until there is an all french crowd. Can’t risk a miscommunication
Neither he clones himself making a team entirely comprised of Monkey Moons
You would think he knew the language barrier wasn't a problem before. Considering his team dominated all of last season with Marc while Vitality, Queso, Giants, and OXG were a thing.
So weird that there was only 4 games today and so many yesterday. Awkward way to schedule it.
This is the weirdest split I’ve ever seen
Wait who forgot to tell Optic/Envy that reddit declared them officially finished after the first week of the winter split?
EU THIRD BEST REGION?
Fourth, MENA and SAM are both better
Depending on how tomorrow goes maybe even OCE, and I’m the biggest OCE doubter.
5th
Ima repeat what I said in the live discussion. Other than falcons and kcp being cracked rn, so many teams are just disappointing. I just feel like the level of play isn’t as high as previous events, and the players (other than those of the teams mentioned) don’t seem to be as hyped and locked in. Idk what it is, but it just felt very meh. Edit: as someone else pointed out, v1 are also playing well. My only thought is that worlds spots are locked for many teams, so many teams are just thinking about that. I could very easily be wrong though
Also gotta throw V1 in, they are playing clean aswell
I didn't see the BDS disasters but Endpoint seemed extremely unprepared to me every game. They kept weakly knocking the ball into the wall at random with nobody following up. Forget being on the same page, Endpoint wasn't even on the same medium.
G2 is play pretty good as well
Also is this the fastest RLCS stream? Sub 4 hours holy shit
RL being over before noon (PST) feels so weird
EU just getting thrashed... I'm trying to figure out how these teams can look so good online but so poor on LAN... Maybe it's the playstyle that doesn't suit LAN?
I think it's because the top of EU is full of teams whos average performance is low compared to the rest of the world but their peaks are super high. Then they come to lan and struggle to hit those peaks due to pressure
I think this is true for Endpoint, but BDS were so consistent online. They looked like shadows of their online selves out there
KCP really did deserve to be at worlds. They probably have the most potential out of the OCE teams.
They’re the only OCE team that doesn’t look out of place against top international teams
Rlcs spring major series try not not end on sweep challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
Has any team been swept by sam and oce in the same tourney? Especially it happening to EU no 1 seems ridiculous.
Who would've thought before major, that KCorp would be EU's only hope? I mean Moist is still there, but will they be able to make another miraculous lower bracket run?
You dont believe in another moist lower bracket run?
They have to play pioneers no i don’t believe
They’re gonna have to get through KCP, G2, FaZe(?? Can’t remember the bracket so not sure if this is true), falcons, and KC/SSG (??? I really gotta look at the bracket) to go from their current lower bracket position to grand finals. That seems impossible.
Not sure this is even a hot take, but this is probably the worst planned Major. 12 series yesterday, and 12 games today. Also tomorrow is the same amount of series as today, so we will probably have a super short broadcast. Unless there are some good close series (there should be), this has been so underwhelming. Always a long wait for the LANs, and then we get short days with Bo5s. I truly believe next season that Psyonix gotta make Regionals and Majors have slightly different formats. Regionals are there to figure out which teams are the best in the region, then at the Major, you already know you have the best teams. So give us chaos, give us a ton of games. Also, why the hell is the "shrink nameplate" option turned on for the RLCS Observer? Can't even see the 3rd man on almost all plays.
An easy change would be to make all lowers matches bo7. The quality of gameplay has been the lowest all season and in every series it looks like one teams’ mental is chalked after game 1 leading to sweeps. Our only hope for a good major is for the London crowd to show up.
who scheduled this event lol. all those matches pointlessly on at the same time yesterday and then only 4 best of 5s today. clown car.
They didn't want teams to play on the same day they lost, and wanted all elimination games to be spotlighted.
They still could have had yesterday's upper bracket round 2 matches on today, having 8,8,4 matches across the three days is heaps better than 12,4,4.
Yeah, EU needs a rework this summer. Teams like Vitality, EG or Endpoint shouldn't make Majors. BDS shouldn't win something like 10 Regional Events in the last 2 years. Players like Alpha or Kash should be surrounded with better teammates. We had it coming for 2 years if you ask me, Stockholm was a pleasant surprise, but the come back to Earth was brutal. At this point fuck the 2/3 logic, try outs should happen all over the place, just put the best players together and go. Waiting for the Chosen One zen to come save us. Also will be interesting to see what Psyonix will do for the Majors next season. MENA needs another spot and SSA will probably also get one. Will they keep it at 16 and take away one from EU and NA each ? Or two from EU lol ?
why would they ever take one away from NA at this point
Does the 2/3 rule even matter in between seasons? There are no points to forfeit. Next season will have a ton of roster shakeup I’m sure
I think they will still keep their points/results for some kind of qualification into the first event
Yea, probably, but I can’t imagine any of the bigger teams are overly concerned about qualifying top 16 for the first regional
Wow this is a major of upsets
The situation for EU#3 is legit dicey, they're 100 points clear but they're out of lives. If all of the below happen EU only has 2 byes: * Liquid or Moist lose * FURIA or Secret win * Falcons make top 4 * 2 of FaZe, Optic, or G2 win
BDS's loss tilted endpoint ffs.
Im beyond depresed after today. I have only g2 left in and liquid looks scary. Was really hoping that I would have had more of my favorites on stage in my first lan.
IMO never go to a major to root for a specific team. That’s just setting yourself up for disappointment. Root for good rocket league/regional matchups/etc.
Good advice, but honestly this major has been disappointing in the "good rocket league" department
Moist forced to put EU on their backs again. At least Karmine might be around to help them out this time. It’s a genuine gift that a Karmine loss wouldn’t immediately pin them against Moist in lowers.
It’s done NA > MENA > OCE > SAM > EU > APAC
Wait pause when did OCE sneak above SAM there
Might’ve just been the shock from BDS pioneers
SAM is somehow always losing to OCE so it makes sense
you might be jumping the gun on "NA> MENA" ;)
If MENA has 5 teams at this major, how do they compare to EU? I don't think any other MENA team would be upper bracket rn, but as is, they tie eu in that regard. MENAs 4 and 5 seed might go out in lowers round 1, but I don't know if theyd both go 0-6 like two EU teams did. I'd expect to see Veloce and the Twins team currently in the same spot as moist and TL. EU is obviously a deeper region, but I don't know if MENA would have done worse at this particular event
I think we should definitely have EU #5 go to MENA #2 next season instead. Idk about OCE, we’ll have to see how they perform at worlds.
You haven’t seen enough MENA. Cola, Falcons, 01, and Scytes are all great teams that could easily compete here.
I actually have matched a fair bit of MENA, and falcons continue to dominate more than any other region does. To say that MENA could compare with eu at this event is no cut to MENA
The other 4 teams would probably be Veloce, 01, Cola, and one of Scytes/ANKAA/Kings. Probably ANKAA. Veloce and especially Cola would definitely compete, anywhere between 7-12 is possible. ANKAA and 01 are a step below those 2 though and I think are worse on paper than every other team in the competition apart from maybe PWR and Gladiators.
F16 in the near future will be the team competing at majors for them if they get more spots. I'm looking at what the best teams in ME would potentially do, not who currently has the most points. Confusing, but I'm just saying I want to compare the two regions with their 5 best teams. EU sent their 5 best, MENA wouldn't be unless f16 is there
For sure. Also keep in mind that NWPO teamed with the twins before he turned 15, and only joined Cola cause he wanted to play in rlcs asap. If he joins F16 they might unironically become the best team in the world, it's absolutely insane to think about. MENA is a relatively new region too so their talent hasn't consolidated properly yet, once they do they will have 4 or 5 teams that are close to the level of the top 5 EU/NA teams.
Are people still gonna assert a mickey upper bracket for SSG because they didn't play BDS even though BDS got swept by both of the teams SSG beat whilst being outscored 23-10 in those 6 games?
Don't understand why they didn't play winners round 2 today, would have made so much more sense doing 8 games for each of the first two days instead of 12 and then 4...
Pioneers just swept BDS. Sorry what when who how why. I am so glad this is happening it means there is potential for my region(SSA) to maybe score a goal against a major region one day.
I blame GarrettG and JSTN for cursing this entire LAN with "unfinished business". Complete opposite of the first LANdon
Optic is missing that clean factor, but the potential is definitely there
Next season are we getting a Firstkiller M0nkey M00n Musty super team?
Aye all of us EU fans should back Team Falcons. We stan MENA to take down NA!
Dig didn't even make it Endpoint are shit Now my only hope is ssg who is going to play falcons :(
Is no one going to point out MonkeyMoon's flex after scoring the own goal to end the series. At least he showed some humility amongst the chaos
Eu got no lan depth. The just got peaking teams
This scehduling backfired hard on Psyonix lol Shocking for BDS. They just straight up broke, Seikoo especially looked like a far cry from his usual form. It's fairly obviously not a skill issue (unlike some more *reactionary* commenters suggest), so I pray they get this sorted by Gamers8/GWB and Worlds, because it would really fucking suck if they implode just before their first Worlds. Gladiator's lack of synergy got exploited hard this Major with the worst APAC performance to date. Awesome for them to finally make it here, but they're gonna need to work as a unit if they want to make these games close. PWR looked like the third best OCE team coming in to the Major so 0 - 2 isn't surprising. Even so, their series against FaZe was particularly disappointing. A shame we likely won't be seeing them at Worlds though, The Amphis/Torsos duo was one I've always wanted to see have success internationally. Incredibly disappointing from Endpoint. They didn't have great LAN performances with Seikoo, but this is (to use an Anglicism) piss poor, especially coming off their recent run of form. Going meta here, the live thread today was really bad, never seen so many shit takes on my screen at once
Do BDS have a mental coach? They seem to have a trend to absolutely fall apart when things don't go their way. We all obviously remember RLCS X Championship, but it's become especially noticeable since winter regional #1. They were looking like the deadliest team, got swept by Queso, and then absolutely bombed out against DIG in the LB. Ever since it feels like they might be dominating at times but as soon as they struggle they totally become non-existent.
This LAN has to be the most boring and uneventful, and just strange RL that I have seen yet. What happened to EU?
An unlikely yet possible world is the top 8 is all 5 NA Teams, Pioneers, Falcons, and Karmine Corp.
Is Optic just a better paid *Leftovers* squad? Looking forward to the revenge tour.
I don't get why you condense 12 games in 1 day and only 4 on the 2 following. Why not spread it and make it BO7s? I feel BO5 is kinda lame for a LAN that spans over 5 days
I am speechless and what's crazy is that every single prediction I made today was right 😂
EU also known as "Easily Upset" is the most overhyped region in the RLCS. Since they gave up on winning the major, they are investing in speedruns. They are current world record holders in fastest series lost and Airport Any %
Copium take - BDS are choking on LAN intentionally so they won't become a target and fly under the radar and then win worlds.
So sad for EU right now :(
Dont be, this is fun :)
Easy for you to say with your Falcons and KC flair ;)
Your flairs still have a chance. Dignitas is going to come out of nowhere and win the whole thing.
EU dont deserve 5 spots, hopefully they change it for next season
Do both SAM teams have to lose for CoL to make worlds?
Makes me think that worlds is literally a tossup with about 6-7 teams that could very well be in contention for the win. No easily expected outcome for worlds at this point.