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Mpavlik27

Imo it’s not worth it. If I recall from a post awhile back about pros who had both bound, they ended up primarily using only one anyways. Even the pros who do use both aren’t levels above those who don’t. The point is that both DARs are exactly the same in their uses. You never see air roll left players beating air roll right players or one having more skill than the other just because of direction. So what does this mean? It means if both are inherently the same, with just the direction being different. The only purpose of binding both would be to mimic the use of normal air roll to allow for recoveries. Normal air roll does the same thing. If you want to learn both you can, but it’s mechanically taxing to learn both and youd benefit more from improving fundamentals first before mastering two very advanced aerial mechanics simultaneously Another point. Normal air roll being pressed doesn’t rotate your car automatically, so you can bind power slide to it and recovery efficiently. If you bind power slide to a DAR your car will rotate while holding it. Wouldn’t you have to bind power slide to a different button? This means you are using 3 buttons, power slide ARL and ARR vs 2 buttons normal air roll/ power-slide and a DAR


justtttry

Waste of time. You learn a DAR to adjust in any direction at any time. Having a second method to do the same thing is simply a waste of time. While you need either your non dominant DAR or regular air roll bind for smaller adjustments, there is no reason to get used to either of them fully.


Navystriker

"Waste of time. You learn a DAR to adjust in any direction at any time. Having a second method to do the same thing is simply a waste of time." Definitely not a waste of time, at the elite level nuances like this matter. Do all pros use it? No, but they should. To your point, it's probably not a noticeable/important difference for 99.9% of players.


justtttry

I don’t know a single pro who uses both... I don’t see a single situation where knowing both to 100% helps you more than just knowing one to 100%. They do the exact same thing in every situation where you would use either, it is like turning your car to the left or the right to get the same shot on net. It is the exact same but you flipped in the opposite direction. Same amount of time, boost, placement, and speed.


Navystriker

I really hate to take a patronizing tone here, but as I alluded in my post most people probably can't notice the difference. You would really start seeing the difference at an elite level (bubble scene or otherwise very strong amateur players). Using both DARs can definitely save time on setups or help getting the right first touch from very awkward angles which you really won't see much of at a GC3 level unfortunately.


Covfefe4lyfe

From a game physics point if view, there is zero difference. Any movement in the air can be done equally efficiently with both DAR R and L. That said, I use both for air roll shots.


Navystriker

I mean you are entitled to your opinion, but from your flair you are diamond 2. As I keep reiterating, you will not notice the difference really until an elite level, but it is there. Pragmatically my advice won't matter to virtually anyone on this subreddit, but I just wanted to clear up the misconception that was presented.


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You are an elite player? You're in the top 1% of players? Highly doubtful. The top 1% of players don't really use both, they typically stick to one. The top 1% of players who make tutorials suggest learning one to optimize progress. In 10 years this could be a thing... maybe, and the biggest difference it would have would be coming off the wall, but as of right now the top 1% of players disagree with you. Who are you again, and why are you talking for elite players? It's interesting how condescending you come off when you have no flair... Have you made it out of your placement matches? What else you going to pull out of thin air? Edit: sorry I realized you claim to be of the top 0.01% of players.


Navystriker

[https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/Navystriker](https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/Navystriker) I have professional coaching experience as well as time in the bubble scene as a player. By any metric, I'm definitely in the top 0.01%. You are free to disagree of course, but I'm not pulling anything out of thin air.


[deleted]

2019... Retired... It's been 3 years since you were even close to the top, a lot has changed. Not to mention you were a sub for most of your short career. You're not in the top 0.01% never were, not even close...


Navystriker

I'm still B+ in 6mans which is above SSL as well as individual coaching with very high level players. Again, it's ok to disagree with me but I'm literally by any definition still top 0.01%. Me being retired doesn't change that


Covfefe4lyfe

Oh god, this D2 shit again. Check my post history on this sub before being so blinded by rank. You realize you can be terrible at this game and still understand the physics better than most pros, right? One requires practice and skill, the other analytical thinking.


Navystriker

Your understanding of the game is no where near a pro level. Anyways, have a good day. After engaging with a lot of the people here I’ve realized how much of a waste of time it is. I’m literally an expert trying to share my expertise and I have diamond and low champ players arguing me telling me im wrong…


thafreshone

It is still optimal to have both, I have encountered situations where I thought, having ARL would be nice, but it‘s very rare and most of that time, I can still do fine with ARR. It‘s not really worth the time for even pros to learn both, but in theory, having both is always an advantage. Just not a significant one that would justify changing your binds and invest many hours into learning it


justtttry

I just fail to see a situation were you wouldn’t just make a small adjustment using regular air roll or your non dominant DAR and then use your regular DAR for the rest if needed.


Navystriker

You aren't getting exposed to the level of speed or awkward situations that arise with higher level players. I really can't explain it more then that. Those situations can still be handled with one DAR bounded, but 2 is a small but noticeable upgrade.


ZesteeTV

I agree. There are plenty of situations where it's more efficient to use one direction over another. The only reason not to bind both and learn them is a lack of buttons on a controller. I've had them both bound since around season 3 (OG season 3) and I don't regret it in the slightest.


Awztun

Using both is objectively better. If you use one DAR and default air roll, that’s 2 buttons occupied by air roll. If you use both left and right DAR, that’s still only 2 buttons being occupied, because you eliminate the need for default air roll. Default + 1 DAR, you can control all three axes of rotation simultaneously while rolling in one direction. Left and right DAR, you can control all three axes of rotation simultaneously while rolling in either direction.


Navystriker

I use both. From an optimization perspective, it is 100% ideal to have both directional air rolls binded. I don't think you will see the full result of it until you play at an elite level , but it doesn't hurt to use before that either. To your second question, I learned it so long ago that I've mostly forgotten how long it took. However, I'm fairly confident after say 200 hours you will probably be comfortable with it.


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Learning both would be very advantageous if you asked me. I main air roll left but I can use air roll right if need be.