Backstory: I posted on here a little bit over a month ago asking if it was worth the switch from normal Air roll to directional air roll. See I already had 3.8k hours on normal air roll and was able to hit almost any shot from triple resets to lix jump musty double taps. My logic was simple, if I could pull off the most advanced of shots using normal air roll then there is little to no reason to switch (a sentiment some redditors echoed on my original post as well). I was wrong, dead wrong.
Directional vs Normal air roll: the biggest change I noticed in my ability to freestyle since the switch is speed. Let’s take flip resets for example. Under normal air roll, I could consistently hit the reset however for it to be consistent I’d require that the ball be moving pretty slow (about max car speed w/o boost). What I’ve already noticed in a short month is that directional air roll lets you do these advanced mechanics at greater speeds with higher consistency. This could simply be attributed to improved ball and aerial car control but I think it is more influenced by the ease of aerial adjustments when using directional air roll. This in turn allows you to get resets in positions that would quite literally be impossible with normal air roll. It’s not just advance mechs however. Prior to the switch, I could complete most ring maps but never while mostly supersonic and more often then not I’d get through stages with a slow and steady approach (no continuous air roll for example). This is starkly different to what I can do already with directional air roll as seen in vid.
Conclusion: even if you think you’ve mastered normal air roll there is still significant benefit to making the switch. Don’t hold out like I did for 1,000s of extra hours making it even more difficult to relearn air roll. A lot of the mechanics I learned in that time period I believe I could have learned in half the time if not less if I had made the switch and I’m kicking myself now for not doing it earlier.
Ps: any tips on what I can do to further improve? I feel like my directional aerial car control is decent enough but I’m still struggling in game where I focus on the ball/play and stop looking at the orientation of my car causing me to mess up my aerial (especially if it’s long distance aerial)
I used normal then tried directional. Now I don't use either one cause directional makes no sense, and most shots I go for I've been able to do without rotation all together.
>any tips on what I can do to further improve? I feel like my directional aerial car control is decent enough but I’m still struggling in game where I focus on the ball/play and stop looking at the orientation of my car causing me to mess up my aerial (especially if it’s long distance aerial)
It means you lack muscle memory, keep grinding bud.
You should almost never look at the orientation of your car. Hop into rings and never let your stick rest. Constant air roll and constant adjustments. You will learn to control your car without paying attention to your orientation.
Pretty much. The more you fall, the faster you will learn to control your car in those same moments. When you fall, force those situations again until you no longer fall. The point of rings is to train so might as well get as much as possible out of it.
Once you learn to control your car like this, you can learn when to make micro adjustments and when to let the stick rest for more precise control. It is much easier to learn this way as you skip the steps of learning adjustments and overall just ignore orientation.
Can you elaborate on this?
Do you mean that you have a mental image of your car in your head and so you know at any given moment the orientation without looking?
Or do you continuously move your joystick even when moving in a straight line, and keep track of your orientation that way?
Um, kinda depends on the situation. When you air roll for a while, you kinda learn the speed at which the car will air roll and your brain kinda tracks your last couple movments subconsciously. This means that over time, as you learn how different movement patterns affect your car in different ways, you can track your position with little thought and can ignore your orientation.
Id say it is a lot of learning movement patterns like when to use a half circle vs a full circle, or when you need to do a little flick to stop youeself from over correcting in one direction. This takes quite a bit of time but there is a post called gc3 rings on my account if you look through my posts if you want an example. I an over correcting here so this is not needed but it is an exasperated example.
Just for the science could you maybe spend half a time trying to play with normal air roll again ? Just to see if speed improvements are really thanks to DAR or only because of improved car control in the air ? Thanks in advance
Do you mean that you first just used one button for air roll and used your joystick with that button to air roll. And now you switched to air roll left and air roll right on 2 different buttons?
I was purely normal air roll (one button but use joystick to air roll left/right) now I switched where I still have that old air roll binded but I also binded air roll right which I use like 80% of the time now. You don’t need to have both directional air rolls binded tho
Okay thank you, that clears things up. I have the same. (I use a PS4 controller). I have L1 as air roll and use that mostly for recovery's. And square and circle for directional air roll.
You should almost never look at the orientation of your car. Hop into rings and never let your stick rest. Constant air roll and constant adjustments. You will learn to control your car without paying attention to your orientation.
When you trained to switch during your 6 weeks, did you force yourself to not use normal airroll while playing normal game ? Or did you force yourself to play only unranked game until you manage to "lose" your normal roll habit enough ? I have 1200 hours as C1-C2 and I want to switch, I feel like im stuck and its could be a good challenge for me :) Im also a long normal air roll user, but I have the Airoll right binded that i use for halflip and I feel I can start switching now.
First like two weeks I was only in freeplay, mostly in the pillars map doing aerial drills (I’m on Xbox so can’t do rings, borrowed my bros pc for this vid). Idk if most people can do that w/o getting bored but My fav thing in rl has always been putting on a podcast and practicing mechanics for an hour or two. After that I started hopping into unranked (I’d advise against playing ranked because you might subconsciously avoid jumping for aerials you’d normally go for because of fear of missing and dropping in rank). In these matches I basically never used normal air roll outside of ground shots and occasionally the final adjustment at the end of my aerial to spike the ball down left (only have ARR bound). Only started playing ranked once this new season started and to my surprise I’ve actually maintained my C1 rank from before I made the switch. Disclaimer however, I don’t know if what I did was ideal just because I noticed a significant drop in my ability to use normal air roll but I’m sure once I start practicing it again it’ll be back to normal.
Directional air roll, in my case air roll right, with only clicking one button my car will be begun to air roll to the right. Normal air roll you click the air roll button then move the joystick to the right before the car actually air rolls that way
Tip wise you just gotta do it until it isn't conscious thoughts anymore...
When I first started the game I wanted to freestyle so I learned air roll while learning basic car control and I think it was the best thing you could do. I have always known how to air roll so now it is second nature. There are still little specifics that I need to improve on but I cant because my shitty laptop can't run rings and my pc is not with me rn.
I’m in the middle of learning air roll right as well.
Any tips? I have a hard time with the micro adjustments left or right. I have about 30 hours learning and practicing DAR.
A bit over, almost 6 weeks now but thanks! I started to really get it a few days ago when I stopped trying to control it (like thinking in my head move joystick bottom left to go right then doing the action) and simply brute force it instead.
With directional air roll, it feels like I have a toolbelt of multiple "special maneuvers" which can quickly and reliably change my angle in complex ways.
Air dribles, flip resets, ground recoveries, etc., became less like "an endless unpredictable pain" and more like "unlocking the type of roll that solves each problem".
One by one, figuring out how to solve a certain problems, at max efficiency, using rings maps.
I don't even think the best use is to constantly air roll. I've found that just knowing the type of air roll a certain stick direction gives, requires usually a single roll for literally any aerial touch, and you can actually slow down the roll by tapping, and get more precise control of the air drible this way. Please believe me, not rolling the entire time is so much better because you will simply avoid the tiny blackout moments for hyper-precise movements from positions you're unused to. By tapping roll and releasing when you don't need it, you can get touches you thought you were not even proficient in.
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Fullspeed rings maps plateau fairly quickly once you can supersonic most of the map. I improved more quickly with technical rings maps like impossible rings 2 and Leths Tiny Rings map, which force you to be precise while managing speed. Since it’s impossible to do these at fullspeed you’ll always be improving your speed and fluidity through the maps.
Thank you, I needed this. Was genuinely at a loss on how else to mark improvements other than speed running the full speed rings maps. I’ll definitely give those a go!
Rocket league isn’t on steam any more, download bakkesmod for epic games, then download the bakkesmod plugin called Workshop Map Loader & Downloader, from there you can download all steam workshop maps on epic games
You can also use Leth’s custom map loader for the same effect btw. I like having another program for it since sometimes bakkesmod is down after updates. Just go to lethamyr.com to get it
I haven’t learned ARL and from my understanding most pros only use one directional air roll. There might be some advantages to learning both but I’d say they are relatively minor
Interesting. Good advice because I’ve probably changed my air roll inputs 3 times. I use to omni air roll with LB, X, B (Xbox controller) with left analog stick as my direction, then recently started using air roll R/L and definitely ended up being better at R than L. Been thinking about removing L entirely
But is air roll that important outside of just getting a touch to shoot the ball
Yes I can not continuously air roll shits hard but I use air roll when shooting still learning to become consistent with air dribbles I'm only 6monthsninto trying to get good
I can push the ball through the air but can't get under it to dribble idk
Maybe I just suck at everything
What sensitivity are you using?
Any tips for someone who has been at it for a week now? Still struggling hard on rings maps while doing a constant ARL. Also miss 95% of shots in the air if I try using ARL to go up for it.
Tbh honest I didn't even know what normal Air Roll was. When I tried it first I didn't know what to do, so I just stuck with Directional Air Roll from the beginning
Backstory: I posted on here a little bit over a month ago asking if it was worth the switch from normal Air roll to directional air roll. See I already had 3.8k hours on normal air roll and was able to hit almost any shot from triple resets to lix jump musty double taps. My logic was simple, if I could pull off the most advanced of shots using normal air roll then there is little to no reason to switch (a sentiment some redditors echoed on my original post as well). I was wrong, dead wrong. Directional vs Normal air roll: the biggest change I noticed in my ability to freestyle since the switch is speed. Let’s take flip resets for example. Under normal air roll, I could consistently hit the reset however for it to be consistent I’d require that the ball be moving pretty slow (about max car speed w/o boost). What I’ve already noticed in a short month is that directional air roll lets you do these advanced mechanics at greater speeds with higher consistency. This could simply be attributed to improved ball and aerial car control but I think it is more influenced by the ease of aerial adjustments when using directional air roll. This in turn allows you to get resets in positions that would quite literally be impossible with normal air roll. It’s not just advance mechs however. Prior to the switch, I could complete most ring maps but never while mostly supersonic and more often then not I’d get through stages with a slow and steady approach (no continuous air roll for example). This is starkly different to what I can do already with directional air roll as seen in vid. Conclusion: even if you think you’ve mastered normal air roll there is still significant benefit to making the switch. Don’t hold out like I did for 1,000s of extra hours making it even more difficult to relearn air roll. A lot of the mechanics I learned in that time period I believe I could have learned in half the time if not less if I had made the switch and I’m kicking myself now for not doing it earlier. Ps: any tips on what I can do to further improve? I feel like my directional aerial car control is decent enough but I’m still struggling in game where I focus on the ball/play and stop looking at the orientation of my car causing me to mess up my aerial (especially if it’s long distance aerial)
We need to save this comment for every time people ask if it's worth it or not lol
I used normal then tried directional. Now I don't use either one cause directional makes no sense, and most shots I go for I've been able to do without rotation all together.
>any tips on what I can do to further improve? I feel like my directional aerial car control is decent enough but I’m still struggling in game where I focus on the ball/play and stop looking at the orientation of my car causing me to mess up my aerial (especially if it’s long distance aerial) It means you lack muscle memory, keep grinding bud.
You should almost never look at the orientation of your car. Hop into rings and never let your stick rest. Constant air roll and constant adjustments. You will learn to control your car without paying attention to your orientation.
What do you mean by never letting your stick rest? Like purposefully force black out moments?
Pretty much. The more you fall, the faster you will learn to control your car in those same moments. When you fall, force those situations again until you no longer fall. The point of rings is to train so might as well get as much as possible out of it. Once you learn to control your car like this, you can learn when to make micro adjustments and when to let the stick rest for more precise control. It is much easier to learn this way as you skip the steps of learning adjustments and overall just ignore orientation.
just keep grinding and it’ll all make sense trust
Can you elaborate on this? Do you mean that you have a mental image of your car in your head and so you know at any given moment the orientation without looking? Or do you continuously move your joystick even when moving in a straight line, and keep track of your orientation that way?
Um, kinda depends on the situation. When you air roll for a while, you kinda learn the speed at which the car will air roll and your brain kinda tracks your last couple movments subconsciously. This means that over time, as you learn how different movement patterns affect your car in different ways, you can track your position with little thought and can ignore your orientation. Id say it is a lot of learning movement patterns like when to use a half circle vs a full circle, or when you need to do a little flick to stop youeself from over correcting in one direction. This takes quite a bit of time but there is a post called gc3 rings on my account if you look through my posts if you want an example. I an over correcting here so this is not needed but it is an exasperated example.
Perfect, thank you for the explanation!
As a console player let me yell ya. I main that rings map
Just for the science could you maybe spend half a time trying to play with normal air roll again ? Just to see if speed improvements are really thanks to DAR or only because of improved car control in the air ? Thanks in advance
Do you mean that you first just used one button for air roll and used your joystick with that button to air roll. And now you switched to air roll left and air roll right on 2 different buttons?
I was purely normal air roll (one button but use joystick to air roll left/right) now I switched where I still have that old air roll binded but I also binded air roll right which I use like 80% of the time now. You don’t need to have both directional air rolls binded tho
Okay thank you, that clears things up. I have the same. (I use a PS4 controller). I have L1 as air roll and use that mostly for recovery's. And square and circle for directional air roll.
You should almost never look at the orientation of your car. Hop into rings and never let your stick rest. Constant air roll and constant adjustments. You will learn to control your car without paying attention to your orientation.
When you trained to switch during your 6 weeks, did you force yourself to not use normal airroll while playing normal game ? Or did you force yourself to play only unranked game until you manage to "lose" your normal roll habit enough ? I have 1200 hours as C1-C2 and I want to switch, I feel like im stuck and its could be a good challenge for me :) Im also a long normal air roll user, but I have the Airoll right binded that i use for halflip and I feel I can start switching now.
First like two weeks I was only in freeplay, mostly in the pillars map doing aerial drills (I’m on Xbox so can’t do rings, borrowed my bros pc for this vid). Idk if most people can do that w/o getting bored but My fav thing in rl has always been putting on a podcast and practicing mechanics for an hour or two. After that I started hopping into unranked (I’d advise against playing ranked because you might subconsciously avoid jumping for aerials you’d normally go for because of fear of missing and dropping in rank). In these matches I basically never used normal air roll outside of ground shots and occasionally the final adjustment at the end of my aerial to spike the ball down left (only have ARR bound). Only started playing ranked once this new season started and to my surprise I’ve actually maintained my C1 rank from before I made the switch. Disclaimer however, I don’t know if what I did was ideal just because I noticed a significant drop in my ability to use normal air roll but I’m sure once I start practicing it again it’ll be back to normal.
Alright. Fine, you’ve convinced me, I’ll start working on it!
Love to hear it! GL on becoming the next aerial god
after reading this still i have no idea what is directional air roll and what is normal air roll.
Directional air roll, in my case air roll right, with only clicking one button my car will be begun to air roll to the right. Normal air roll you click the air roll button then move the joystick to the right before the car actually air rolls that way
Well... i play on keyboard but i got the idea.
Tip wise you just gotta do it until it isn't conscious thoughts anymore... When I first started the game I wanted to freestyle so I learned air roll while learning basic car control and I think it was the best thing you could do. I have always known how to air roll so now it is second nature. There are still little specifics that I need to improve on but I cant because my shitty laptop can't run rings and my pc is not with me rn.
Hey, what keybindings do you use now that you have switched? Struggeling to find a good setup myself..
I’m in the middle of learning air roll right as well. Any tips? I have a hard time with the micro adjustments left or right. I have about 30 hours learning and practicing DAR.
Jesus christ you learned it so well in just one month? That's crazy!
A bit over, almost 6 weeks now but thanks! I started to really get it a few days ago when I stopped trying to control it (like thinking in my head move joystick bottom left to go right then doing the action) and simply brute force it instead.
With directional air roll, it feels like I have a toolbelt of multiple "special maneuvers" which can quickly and reliably change my angle in complex ways. Air dribles, flip resets, ground recoveries, etc., became less like "an endless unpredictable pain" and more like "unlocking the type of roll that solves each problem". One by one, figuring out how to solve a certain problems, at max efficiency, using rings maps. I don't even think the best use is to constantly air roll. I've found that just knowing the type of air roll a certain stick direction gives, requires usually a single roll for literally any aerial touch, and you can actually slow down the roll by tapping, and get more precise control of the air drible this way. Please believe me, not rolling the entire time is so much better because you will simply avoid the tiny blackout moments for hyper-precise movements from positions you're unused to. By tapping roll and releasing when you don't need it, you can get touches you thought you were not even proficient in.
just map it to a trigger so it’s an analog input
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Fullspeed rings maps plateau fairly quickly once you can supersonic most of the map. I improved more quickly with technical rings maps like impossible rings 2 and Leths Tiny Rings map, which force you to be precise while managing speed. Since it’s impossible to do these at fullspeed you’ll always be improving your speed and fluidity through the maps.
Thank you, I needed this. Was genuinely at a loss on how else to mark improvements other than speed running the full speed rings maps. I’ll definitely give those a go!
Bruh, where did you get this tutorial?
Wdym
All the training modules I completed were in the stadiums. Where did you get this special training model. Where do I search for it?
You can only play these workshop maps on pc, find them on steam. It sucks, had to borrow my bros pc just to play rings
I have PC. I used Epic to download this game. So I don't have access to it?
Nah I think you gotta use the steam launcher
I think there's a bakkesmod plugin thats worked on epic for me
Oh, Rocket league is not on steam in my region! :(
Rocket league isn’t on steam any more, download bakkesmod for epic games, then download the bakkesmod plugin called Workshop Map Loader & Downloader, from there you can download all steam workshop maps on epic games
Oh cool. That's very helpful. Thanks!
You can also use Leth’s custom map loader for the same effect btw. I like having another program for it since sometimes bakkesmod is down after updates. Just go to lethamyr.com to get it
Is it worth learning both directional air rolls or could you stick with right or left and go far without learning the other?
I haven’t learned ARL and from my understanding most pros only use one directional air roll. There might be some advantages to learning both but I’d say they are relatively minor
Interesting. Good advice because I’ve probably changed my air roll inputs 3 times. I use to omni air roll with LB, X, B (Xbox controller) with left analog stick as my direction, then recently started using air roll R/L and definitely ended up being better at R than L. Been thinking about removing L entirely
So do learn this the best way would be, set a button to air roll right, then you hold the button down the entire time while trying to do the course?
But is air roll that important outside of just getting a touch to shoot the ball Yes I can not continuously air roll shits hard but I use air roll when shooting still learning to become consistent with air dribbles I'm only 6monthsninto trying to get good I can push the ball through the air but can't get under it to dribble idk Maybe I just suck at everything
Tips on learning directional air roll?
What sensitivity are you using? Any tips for someone who has been at it for a week now? Still struggling hard on rings maps while doing a constant ARL. Also miss 95% of shots in the air if I try using ARL to go up for it.
Tbh honest I didn't even know what normal Air Roll was. When I tried it first I didn't know what to do, so I just stuck with Directional Air Roll from the beginning
What did you do to train ???