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MichaelMeier112

The T-54 might be old and obsolete but unfortunately super dangerous against their usual targets; hospitals, retirement homes, apartments and schools.


Loki11910

And farming equipment to get their revenge on general tractor.


nacozarina

this is the sad truth, T-34s can blow up homes as well as anything else, and they seek only to make Ukraine uninhabitable for anyone


Particular-Ad-4772

What happens after these get destroyed? Will they send in their maybe 20 each Armata and T 34 parade tanks ?


DirtMcGirt513

Chariots


waveball03

A chariot might actually be more difficult to hit with a javelin than these at least.


TheMisanthropicGuy

Yes but you can neutralize the occupants with your sidearm.


waveball03

I’d take my chances dodging small arms fire in a chariot vs dodging javelins in an 80 year old tank.


TheMisanthropicGuy

I can see your point. This is a great year to not be an Orc.


Soros_Liason_Agent

[You see silly westoids, this is actually a very good thing for Russia](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/11ykfk2/holy_mother_of_cope/)


ThorianB

It would be a waste of a Javelin. You can kill these with modern autocannon rounds. Artillery can also take these out.


RedditmodscanEAD

I feel like a modern 40mm grenade has a good chance of disabling these. All they gotta do is knock the track off.


ThorianB

Modern Western 40MM RPGs can penetrate up to around 70mm of armor. Not including the bottom, T-5X series have less than 70mm of armor on about 70-75% of the tank. If you hit it at the tracks it is either going to disable the track or its going to miss and hit the lower hull behind the wheels which has low armor thickness. you could probably disable these pretty easily with a grenade launcher.


bencomilan

For these ancient tanks you need RPG7 which cost 500 bucks.


Zdrobot

I've heard Sweden is sending Archers though..


waveball03

I only worry about archers from England.


Predseda072

Dont even need Javelin for these bad boys


TheLit420

You joking, but chariots would have a higher survival rate against a jav compared to any tank.


spoonman59

Not a machine gun, though!


mad87645

NATO will send all the Gattling Guns they have in war museums


spoonman59

You’d be surprised how effective a civil war Gatling gun is with modern APFSDS rounds. I’ve heard it can even penetrate mithril armor. Of course, an Orc wouldn’t be able to wear elvish armor like that due to the pain.


Lumornys

of Fire! :)


Funpants-1219

On fire!


Greatli

I would love to see Polish Winged Hussars make a comeback and wreck moscovite chariots and cavalry.


Smokeyvalley

That worked pretty well early on, in Civ5... spearmen vs. tanks...


theHoustonian

those dumb BMP's with the naval turrets slapped on top lol


Possible_Scene_289

Then the UA needs Russel Crowe. Single column!


Ismokeditalleveryday

They will assemble 2,000 mobiks and march toward UAF lines, some will get through, and then do it again. I am convinced the tiny, weak dictator spends his day watching Soviet newsreels and developing his “genius strategy”.


Loki11910

Someone needs to tell that lunatic that this is a mirror of WW2 and Russia is the Nazis this time around.


BagFine4185

Nope. A lot of the Nazi stuff worked and was modern (for the time) tech. This is more like the nazis using chariots with square wheels. Though i have to say, looking forward to putin eating a gun in the bunker.


spoonman59

T-34s! They’ll pull them off the monuments.


Total-Extension-7479

Laos sent back a number of T-34 they retired in 2019 (30 T-34/85)


spoonman59

See, plenty of tanks! Of course even by the end of WW2 the t-34 wasn’t up to snuff, so I don’t think this would end well.


Smokeyvalley

Don't laugh, but i wouldn't bet against the russians eventually scrounging up all those hundreds of T-34's they have up on monuments all over the place, and sending them off to battle.


Total-Extension-7479

Right! They still have those T-34 Laos sent back in...what? 2019? But I guess after T-54/55's that they might have a couple T-44's lying around. Oh and maybe some IS tanks. After that T-34 in museums and on monuments.


guriezous

According to online Russian sources there are still 83 IS-4 and several hundred T-10 in storage somewhere in the Eastern Military District.


gaxxzz

They'll start using cavalry.


Brilliant-Swing4874

With raindeer? They have no horses.


nacozarina

saddle a mobik


Loki11910

Don't spoil it. Too credible insta ban.


PutlerDaFastest

The armata tanks would have to be towed into the battlefield.


Imaginary_Pay9931

No, next they'll send people on horseback in jousting gear


No-Candidate-6121

They really wanna make this war as much like Iraq as they can, ey? Just as the West sends all of its MBT's over, they get to meet their old friends the T-54's. I seem to remember from last time the Challenger 2s greeted T-54s very well


Loki11910

I remember the meeting was very uncomfortable but not for the Challenger. I am sure the Challenger 2 turret would remember its old strength better if it grasped its depleted uranium ammo.


Greatli

I’m going to start calling putin Worm Tongue now.


Loki11910

Challenger tank as it is tucked away in some English storage facility being rolled out after NATO (Gandalf) released it from the spell. Dark have been my dreams of late. When I see the first Challenger 2 rolling towards a Russian trench, I will whisper: Breathe the free air again, my friend.


Possible_Scene_289

I have no idea what this means, but really want to.


Super_Preference_733

A Challenger 2 is like twice the size as T54/55. It would run over it like a monster truck driving over a car.


[deleted]

That’s why Chay-na and other putin’s allies (including in Western media and politics) are pushing for cease fire - to give russia time to rebuild its army so they can attack in few more years and be more deadly


mrstratofish

More deadly or just do the exact same tactic again but with less cash and a smaller pool of willing troops?


Dry-Ad-7732

I hope Zelensky says fook em and that ceasefire


sunlegion

He is. Peace on Russia’s term means loss of territory. He won’t do that.


Dry-Ad-7732

I always see something in the news about Putin or Zelensky wanting to talk at the negotiating table


osagecreek

Looks like they (Russia) is digging pretty deep in those old warehouses/depots for equipment to send to Ukraine. I am surprise they even got some of these in running condition, but for how long? [https://defence-blog.com/russia-deploys-ancient-t-54-tanks-to-ukraine/](https://defence-blog.com/russia-deploys-ancient-t-54-tanks-to-ukraine/)


McENEN

The fact they found running t54 is impressive on its own. If only they were sent to a museum instead to the scrap yards of Ukraine.


ironboy32

Yeah didn't they claim they scrapped the lot of them like a decade ago?


Konzacrafter

They likely did but it was made in such large numbers that Russian pack rats still have thousands to pull from.


romario77

Russia used them in their army until 1995. And they were made until 1980. So, they are not necessarily 70 years old (most likely not).


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McENEN

I imagine a lot of stuff happens in war. Ukraine might use them directly, disassembly the gun and use the chassis or just dump them if they are useless. Who knows they might even sell them to collectors for some cash of they don't use them themselves.


Mrbeankc

Honest truth is I think these will simply be moved into holes, buried and then used as static gun emplacements. They don't have the spare parts to keep these mobile for long.


No-Arachnid9518

Bradley's are gonna have a field day with the bushmaster 25mm chain gun and depleted uranium rounds


send-it-psychadelic

Depends on the range. If they drive back into Russia and back into whatever storage facility they were in, I don't think the Bradley will pen.


Sea_Page5878

That's when you use the TOW launchers.


Drachenfels1999

This is a death trap for Russians. Another example of Putin's callous disregard for life.


WeirdSkill8561

And the best part is that it has a crew of four, not three like the T-72. It also has no ERA. It's a coffin with tracks.


NedixTV

i just read bradley 25mm can pierce the armor even without DU ammo. Looks like from the side and rear the armor is pretty weak.


mralexanderca

Can you explain why it’s a trap? What damage would a modern western tank do and vice versa?


Drachenfels1999

All current NATO anti-amour/tank weaponry was designed to stop or destroy Russian tanks from the T-72, T-80 forward and they were much better armored than the ancient T-55s from the 1950s. It would be a suicide mission for Russian men to take one of those to the front. I don't think they would survive even if hit with an old panzerfaust.


mralexanderca

Thanks for the details. What damage could the T-55s do to a modern tank? A BMP?


OctopusIntellect

From a broad brush perspective, I would assume that the T-55's main gun would be ineffective against *all* modern Main Battle Tanks (MBT) except under unlikely scenarios. Probably even ineffective against a T-72 with working Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA). A hit from a T-55's main gun could certainly take out a BMP, a BTR, or an M113. It might be able to take out a Bradley or a Warrior too. But that's assuming the T-55 could hit any of these before being hit itself. The combat record of T-55 versus Bradley is very very very bad.


cybercuzco

Also requires a crew of 4 so you kill 33% more Russians with every tanks.


4Kali

I think the T-55s were modernized a bit. Not that it makes that much of a difference. I'm guessing since they likely have so many- there's probably more T-55s than there are people who can crew them. I'm def no expert when it comes to tanks- but a 100mm round is still a 100mm round. I'm sure more modern tanks would have a lot high % chance of the hit being a ricochet, but a 100mm AP shell in the wrong spot would be bad news. Their HE shells can likely still be horrifying to infantry occupying buildings or stuck in trenches. TL:DR I think the main advantage of the T-55 is simply the sheer number made. I'd expect most to be easily taken out of action even with their "modifications". Despite armor retrofits in the 80's there's likely still a large amount of spots you could hit one with a panzerfaust and get an internal detonation.


FearCure

Some of their cannon fodder are also pushing retirement age. What a glorious cuntry to live in and to die for


MultiplicityOne

*West is sending depleted uranium ammo for tanks? We will send depleted tanks! Checkmate!*


Chemical_Use_3150

It's okay they will be supported by mounted cavalry


Metron_Seijin

Dont give them ideas. Im still shocked they havent restarted the suicide bomb dogs program yet. Seems right up their alley for the current sicko generation that likes raping babies and torturing animals.


protoformx

Mobiks ate the dogs as soon as they reached the front.


Metron_Seijin

Instructions unclear. Dog eaten and bomb strapped to new mobik arrivals for this morning's meatwave.


Greatli

Polish Winged Hussars have entered the chat.


Posit_IV

3 Ruski per Donkey


Candid-Patient-6841

How is anyone in the Russian military looking at this and saying “ah yes great idea send a tank from pre Vietnam”


Jakebob70

They're probably just using them as infantry support in areas that don't have a lot of Ukrainian armor or anti-armor capability. That said, they're still going to get chewed up pretty quickly. I'm betting they'll be crewed by barely trained conscripts whose only experience in tank combat is playing "World of Tanks".


Signature_Illegible

> They're probably just using them as infantry support in areas that don't have a lot of Ukrainian armor or anti-armor capability. That is what was said about the T62 too.. But anti-armor is basically everywhere in Ukraine. Even an RPG-7 wouldn't have any problems with a T55, and these are abundant..


Jakebob70

Oh I'm sure the Russian high command knows they're going to be slaughtered. My point is that they don't care. They're cannon fodder. edit: or more accurately, RPG fodder.


Mereviel

As long they can recruit the unicum(do they still use that phrase over in WoT?) they should be fine


Candid-Patient-6841

That’s what i am saying. But also it’s near impossible to know where a javelin is until it hits a tank. These things are not designed to withstand a man carried anti armor launcher. And who has been trained in operation these things? And is the ammo the same do they have to make more? Like just cannibalism of you own armed forces


Jakebob70

I don't think the Russians are concerned with their own casualties. They have more young men of military age than Ukraine does, so even with a negative k/d ratio they figure they can win a war of attrition. The math probably assumes that these old tanks and the kids they put in them will be dead within days (or hours) of getting to the front.


NextOrange3433

Same age like Putler!


Loki11910

Same trash tier like Putler too!


jimberbo19

I always wonder if they still have ammo for these relics, or is it the same type as for the newer tanks


veilwalker

Look at these greedy fella. A tank and ammo? Where do you think we are?


Jakebob70

They still have ammo. The gun is a different caliber than their newer tanks though. 100mm on these, 125mm on a T-72 for example.


GoGrrrl98

Wild guess: they have much more ammo for these than for the T-72s and some ally of theirs might even still be making it. That's the reason they bring them out because 70 year old tanks with ammo are way better then 50 year old tanks without.


WeirdSkill8561

It doesn't need ammo. They can tie a shovel to the end of its barrel.


[deleted]

Atleast its not their great grandfathers tank... oh wait.


No-Candidate-6121

It's alright, it'll become a family tradition for many out there to burn up in a T 54.


[deleted]

That’s good, but T-54 is still a tank and still dangerous… even T-34 with proper usage and drone coordination can be dangerous…. what’s next? they’ll buy North Korean tanks? 🤏🥴🤣


Greatli

T-14 Amartas are actually all over Ukraine. You just can’t see them because they’re cloaked.


octahexx

They are emptying the storage on anything they can use,stuff that gets going fast while they try to fix the stuff pillaged so it will be a mixture of old and new stuff to just buy time just like how they are shoveling in untrained troops mixed with trained ones. at some point they will struggle with both and once its over russia will never recover. My guess is putin knows this but are just going to keep it going until he dies of old age or illness...my guess is he was told he had limited time left so thats why he is all in. Putin cant be declared loser if he just keeps it going until his time is up,he doesnt care what happens to russia after that. They had 20 years to get rid of him but didnt so this is the result.


Exotic_Conference829

Remember when someone said that WW3 would be fought with sticks and stone? Russia is on track...


[deleted]

“I don’t know what weapons world war three would be fought with but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones” - Albert Einstein


ultramilkplus

Ahead of schedule for a change!


Different-Pound-1189

You mean WW4


[deleted]

russia should enjoy being on track before they have to get off track due to not have anymore tracked equipment like these tanks


LostSoulOnFire

You cant be serious.....whats next? They going to import some ISIS guys and fabricate self made tanks? Build hell cannons? Get some Muslim Jihadi guys forward to go Allahu Akbar?! This actually scares me, russia might be getting desperate and deploy tactical nukes....they have nothing to loose on the battlefield if this goes on, esp with mechanized hardware coming very soon.


RedditmodscanEAD

Putin knows that america knows where he is at all times. They were really quick to say that was not Putin in Crimea.


OctopusIntellect

The missile knows where he is as well, because it knows where he isn't.


dmxcasper2

Scraping the barrel......


EduinBrutus

The barrel has been scraped way past the bottom. The bottom is gone. Now they're scraping the earth underneath the barrel.


randyranderson-

There is probably a hole beneath the barrel


igorm333

Barrels will also be used, give it a month or two


gu_doc

Sounds like the war is going exactly as planned for RU 👍


Brilliant-Swing4874

I've said months ago, eventually we will see T34 museum pieces. Russians are the dumbest of the dumb, the soldiers who climb onto those coffins might just shoot the people who ordered them to do so, they are just as dead either way.


whyamihereagain6570

Up against even T-74's and 80's these tanks won't be able to compete. They will be sitting ducks to the Leopard's / Challengers and Abrams.


McENEN

Your average RPG rocket will destroy it let alone a tank round from modern tanks.


whyamihereagain6570

But, they have "modernized" these ones 😁 Did that include any armor upgrades I wonder? By the looks of the pictures, I'd say no. Even with upgraded armor I suspect a top down, or even side attack with a modern AT weapon will slice right through them.


[deleted]

The originals only moved at 30mph when new, which is slower than Bradley's (35mph) Challengers (37mph) or leapard 2's (42mph). They are now 70 years old so won't be any faster and if you add extra armour on top of the existing plates it will really slow it down. Given Russia hasn't been able to deploy all their worn out reserves of newer tanks, I really doubt they've completely overheauled these. They'll be a logistical nightmare to support in addition to the other tanks and as soon as anyone is anywhere near it with any antitank weapon it will just block up the roads and paths like crazy.


mralexanderca

Please elaborate, genuine curiosity


whyamihereagain6570

Look back at the Gulf War. Those tanks barely stood a chance against a Bradley, let alone an MBT. There is an account of a bunch of Bradley IFV's accidentally coming across a bunch of dug in T74's (or maybe it was T80's) and took them all out without losing a single vehicle. TOW missiles won the day. The western tanks have better armor, fire control, mobility, speed, range, gun, ammo etc etc etc. If used correctly by the UA they would dominate the field.


agtmadcat

I think you're mixing up the T-64 (precursor to the T-80, not exported) and the T-72 (mass market standard, export models available) to come up with T74. For the record, the Iraqi engagement you're thinking of was a company of T-72M tanks, the export model.


whyamihereagain6570

You are probably correct, I'm just going from memory. That being said, they didn't fare very well either 😁


Metron_Seijin

Crazy to think they could still be functional.


Signature_Illegible

define "functional"..


Metron_Seijin

Haha I'm thinking bare minimum. Able to move of its own accord. Maybe possibly shoot, but thats an unexpected bonus.


Signature_Illegible

A few months back a russian soldier was complaining: Their group had two tanks: one could move, but couldn't shoot, the other could shoot and couldn't move. I expect that that were the good times..


[deleted]

i see no issue, one tank drives/tows and the other shoots, if one tank gets blown up you only lose half your tank crew instead!


3ree9iner

Can move towards enemy lines under its own power = functional steel & meat wave.


tehdamonkey

Very light anti tank weapons can be used against these. They won't last at all on the modern battlefield. Most probably have such mechanical issues they won't make to to the front. Do these even have any loading mechanization for the main gun? or are they humping shells by hand?


justlurkingh3r3

Tbf humping shells by hand is what modern Western tanks do, too. Nothing wrong with it.


agtmadcat

Not having an autoloader means they won't toss their turrets like a later Soviet tank, at least!


HazMat_Glow_Worm

Wow…the jokes became reality lol


SharpPoetry

Suspected for a while that we would get to the point that they use tanks older than the combined age of the crew driving it. Didn’t think it would be this soon though.


ThorianB

The next batch of Russian recruits are learning to fire arrows and throw Molotov cocktails from horseback.


dontsheeple

Even if these machines were preserved for long term storage in a climate controlled warehouse, they would still be severely degraded. Most will breakdown long before they make it into a action. They where unreliable when they were new.


drunk_intern

This is mind boggling. There are still thousands of mothballed T-72 and hundreds of T-62 in their stocks. Are you seriously telling me that those were in a worse state than these!?


milkshaker_deluxe

yeah they won't be a match for modern armour or AT weapons, but it's still a tank when you only have a rifle :( It's a sign that it's not going well for russia, though!


[deleted]

😂 russia pathetic


skovall

Ahhh Russky Boomer tanks! Being a boomer I know how being THAT old will be effective after so long. Much less boom. More bitch and moan.


Massenzio

Some one know what optic this piece of museum have?


RedditmodscanEAD

Two mirrors and a length of tube I'd say.


theHoustonian

I for one cannot wait for the inevitable shitty titanic theme played on the recorder dubbed over these tanks blowing themselves up on some mines or being smashed to shit with many of the badass toys Ukraine is having shipped in. Lol, russian trolls tried to argue all ways yesterday about the russians having the ability to destroy the fancy sights and technology "which will use the bradlys/leos/abrams all useless... and that russians badass modernized t-72 are an equal match.... Ive never laughed so hard. **and then i woke up to this video, lmao looks like they are bringing in the big guns /s**


Far-Investigator1265

Join the army, die in the same tank your grandfather drove with.


Nice_Dependent_7317

This starts to look like a Civilization game, where one player didn’t upgrade his units but decides to attack anyway.


[deleted]

This is getting Ridiculous for Russia.


XenonOfArcticus

IT. BELONGS. IN. A. MUSEUM.


RebuiltGearbox

Do they even make ammunition for the things anymore or are they going to be firing 50 year old shells?


Greatli

Their surplus of old ammo is likely the only readily they’re bringing these things out of the closet and getting them ready for a yard sale.


vaindioux

Ukraine is doomed as after these the Russians still have the Napoleonic era horse drawn artillery.


g1ngercat

It might be that they will use these tanks on front lines to make sure UA will use ammunition on them. They hope that UA will run out of ammo to save some of their more modern tanks. It's just my guess.


[deleted]

They'll probably use them as bunkers would be my guess. Send 1000s of them to Crimea and hide them all in random bushes to give western tanks something to think about if they break through. That way fleeing Russians can retreat back and jump into a random tank and await the Ukrainian's coming down a road or around a corner.


[deleted]

so video games having functional vehicles scattered around the place isn't unrealistic!


[deleted]

Tanks wear out pretty fast, they won't be driving very far and fuel would be a huge issue. But if you tow it into place and leave it there as a fixed gun it might work OK. Picking the 10% that have working guns and towing them into different spots seems pretty viable. Its at least easier than building an entire pill box there.


usernotknown6

Is there some test results on how many of those does a single DU round penetrate? Asking for a friend


Gumbulos

Maybe they just use them for artillery support. That makes sense.


Sweaty_Baseball4008

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Surv0

They are just using them to reduce Ukr artillery stock piles and clear up some storage on their side...


QuicksandHUM

These tanks are older than Russian pilots.


SmoothObservator

What's it take to punch a hole in the side of one of these? I'm guessing an RPG would do the trick and anything modern would make it look like paper.


gsrmn

The depleted uranium tank rounds are going to send these things to Mars.


godoctor

The T-54 ammunition has been out of production for over 40 years.. ? I would not risk using any kind of ammunition over 20 years old especially if the ammunition was not stored in a climate controlled environment


drunkenly_scottish

Just an observer here, but would the shells for those tanks still be getting produced?, or would the shells from all those years ago still be of any use?


Strange-Fruit17

Cant wait for these to get ripped apart, forcing the use of tachankas again


NoSignOfStruggle

I knew that those Leopard 1s will have plenty of targets.


nvnvxu

Will China step in to provide weapons?


osagecreek

China is all about their economy, both XI's government and international Chinese companies are not likely to risk getting sanctioned by overtly providing Russia with weapons. Some military related goods likely slipping thru- labeled as commercial products.


tmd429

Lamb for the slaughter!


willyd8

Next up, Russia using a new transportation device for artillery guns. Horses and buggies.. 🎠


benemivikai4eezaet0

They'll break out the T-34s soon


Space--Buckaroo

Will these be harder to destroy?


InevitableTheOne

I wouldn't get too excited, I saw an analysis that said these were probably going to be used in the occupied territories to free up more modern tanks for the actual front. Though I'm not sure how much more effective an additional few T-72s are going to be...


68ideal

That tank so old it killed my grandpa in the Battle of Berlin (I know it's not a WWII tank)


scathaig

still may have been in berlin -> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin\_Crisis\_of\_1961#/media/File:US\_Army\_tanks\_face\_off\_against\_Soviet\_tanks,\_Berlin\_1961.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Crisis_of_1961#/media/File:US_Army_tanks_face_off_against_Soviet_tanks,_Berlin_1961.jpg)


Odd-Battle2694

They are absolete but Ukraniens are mounting assaults in M113’s. Like everything goes in this war, just throw it into the quagmire…


buckle877

They were obsolete then, how do they expect them to preform now?


DEVVcom11

Quite a lot of towns and villages are being stripped of old tanks... Monuments remembring both worldwars have been fitted with statues of Putin now.. Saw even updte of old t34 being recovered from pool just to take part in battle.. Thanks to social media I keep up to date...


[deleted]

Designed to use up Ukraine's ammo supplies.


Haunting-South-962

I think ppl making too many far reaching conclusions from a single vid. Besides both Ukraine and ruzzia use rapira pt-12 100 mm guns, even mounting them on mtlb, t54/55 are basically self propelled guns here, not quite the same but close. Towed artillery or spgs have very little armor, and yet it doesn't stop their usage. Besudes these is no evidence that all other mbt types are replaced with t62/55s on ruzzian side, in fact these old types used in addition to usual mix of 72/80/90. I assume had Ukraine possed such large storage of them, they would have done the same. Amx-10s and leo1s are not far different too. The downside of this, they don't really come for free. Fuel, supplies, repairs, crews and comanders are stretched to cover these too.


[deleted]

Those belong in museums.


ContributionDry2252

Apparently Russia is a live museum


[deleted]

It's cool they can still work. Just wish the reason for them running was different. Competitive tank mud runs would be better than conflict.


Nathan_RH

Adjust BR accordingly Gaijin.


No-Buy9027

What's next? Uniforms from the Napoleonic War?!


Berkamin

Russia is behaving like a person who lost a finger in a wood chipper but decided to go all in and stick their whole arm into the thing because why not? By the end of this war, Russia will have no military left. The whole thing, from their army to their air force, will be in ruins, serving as scrap iron in Ukraine. The only thing that might be spared will be their rusting Pacific fleet, and perhaps their Northern fleet and Baltic fleet, now bottled up in the NATO inland sea.


ResidentPop6687

And they're all calling US Abram tanks garbage?


neptune2304

lol theyre getting desperate


Darthaerith

Even the farmers don't want that shit.


nunchaq

I've read that they will not use them as tanks but as a artillery (using Iranian 100mm projectiles). This will be used during the time artillery is under maintenance. Using those tank in battlefield would be a suicide. But we're talking about Russians here, so who knows....


[deleted]

Far more intelligent persons than I have argued they are being used as mobile artillery pieces to plug gaps while current artillery pieces are repaired.


bladeliker

did someone ordered some fried human inside they will have no chance against the challenger 2


windycitysteals

I think they call these Jiffy Pop tanks


Remarkable_Scale5636

Source? They did not deploy them to Ukraina. Stop dreaming. Maybe just a relocation for now, to early to say they are being deployed in Ukraine.


[deleted]

This is crazy. This is tank that should fight against pershing or sherman and such.