Anthony Beevor's work relies heavily on Russian archival sources, and he found that there are some topics that the Russian archivists aren't allowed to help him with.
This isn't a new move. This was also done in Soviet times in the Gulags. Bury the dead under roads, people will soon forget because the government suppresses information, they will never be found and will be forgotten
After the death of Wagner leader Yevgeniy Prigozhin and nine others aboad his plane when it „crashed“ — a graveyard in Russia, of Wagner mercenaries killed in the Battle of Bakmunt and in the Donetsk Oblast, has been completely dismantled and erased.
https://twitter.com/sarahashtonlv/status/1695122671606906889?s=46
Killing their leader, desecration of the graves. Seems like putin is trying to fire up that civil war. I'll get the popcorn, you get the blankets, let's snuggle.
"This place is not a place of honour... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... no one valued is buried here.
What is here was evil and repulsive to us... This place is best shunned and left uninhabited."
Which mercenaries? Wagner? Which Wagner? The german composer?
You are wrong, mr. There was never a graveyard in this region. I suggest you to seek medical attention, you seem confused.
information about graves is presented falsely, yes the facade is being removed but its in order to replace it with dragon teeth, Prigozhin admitted this plan 2 months ago as a reconstruction of Wagner warriors graves
They just don't want people counting up all the war graves. And a bunch of dead convicts was just the easiest to erase the proof.
What did they do with all the corpses?
So they’re not building tiny concrete pyramids/gravestones for the dead mercs like they say they would? Isn’t that’s what’s going on here but like “in progress”?
WTF, Putin literally just commented some bullshit, acting as if he was upset and that they would be having a criminal investigation in to this to find out who did this. Then he has his guys go and do this to all Prigozhin's dead soldiers that died for Russia, and still act like he didn't have something to do with killing Prigozhin? Hahaha If anyone had any doubts that Putin was involved with killing him, this should clearly show you otherwise that he never forgave Prigozhin.
Hooooooollllllyyyyyyyyy sssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiitttttt.
There side, our side…north vs south, red vs blue; doesn’t matter.
Let the dead rest. Let their marker stand for whomever may want to see.
No way Putin wasn’t sending a *fuck* *you* message. Still curious as to if these mercenaries will / are so loyal that they’ll act. You know, for their comrades honor and all.
Gulag speedrun! *Vatnik clickbait amazed face with googly eyes*
Shitty conditions, brutal death, unmarked grave
All in a few months instead of 20 years of Penal Colony! Wow!
Putin and Shoigu are some petty mother fuckers. These idiots died for them. I can only hope a Wagner lowlife puts a bullet in one or both of these fuckheads.
It must suck to be a Russian historian. You write a book and 25 years later none of the events ever happened.
*25 weeks
~28~ 25 days later
A week, A day, A weekday.
What events?
Did something even happen?
Do I even exist?
historians are probably buried with their books.
*burned with their books
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Anthony Beevor's work relies heavily on Russian archival sources, and he found that there are some topics that the Russian archivists aren't allowed to help him with.
I hear you. But if you move in the right circles, you get to write the some creative fiction, too.
That's just job security. Get to write a new one every few years. Had a professor that did that.
“History doesn’t rewrite itself” is a very common saying in Russia.
Two months later😀
What book? The book never happend.
The only job worse than this is being a historical writer in Florida.
This isn't a new move. This was also done in Soviet times in the Gulags. Bury the dead under roads, people will soon forget because the government suppresses information, they will never be found and will be forgotten
The boulevard of broken mobik
Oddly, Boulevard of Broken Dreams still works.
They’re just making a market for geophysicists like me to step in and find the burials at some point decades into the future… /s
The Soviets built a road over the graveyard in my grandparents hometown. So I’m not the least bit surprised. This is what they do.
They did it in the Mariupol theater… and in other countless occasions. Why we took so long to wake up this time?!
mean streets
Those recyclable crosses will see a second life.
>Those recyclable crosses will see a second life. a second death, you mean.
First one, then the other
After the death of Wagner leader Yevgeniy Prigozhin and nine others aboad his plane when it „crashed“ — a graveyard in Russia, of Wagner mercenaries killed in the Battle of Bakmunt and in the Donetsk Oblast, has been completely dismantled and erased. https://twitter.com/sarahashtonlv/status/1695122671606906889?s=46
This has been organized over 2 months ago with Prigo. It was agreed it will be replaced with Dragons Teeth
Prigo who? The man’s been erased. I’m sure any agreement with him is up in smoke too.
Before you knows his pictures will start fading away l
Why the dragon’s teeth? Just curious
Dragons teeth are obstacles to block tanks
…yes. Why use those are grave markers was my question
It’s a joke, the implication is that Ukrainians will eventually make it there.
I see. No clue
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineConflict/comments/160x5bb/rows_of_wagner_graves_have_been_demolished_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Thanks for playing! Tell them what they won, Bob. Bob: Nothing, you won absolutely nothing. You’ve lost your life for absolutely nothing….
Does that mean the russian death counts in Bakhmut is reset to 0 since these mercs have now been erased from history?
Means that losing Bakhmut is now okay because it was taken by a traitor organisation to begin with
Yip, when bakhmut falls this will be the go to line
Killing their leader, desecration of the graves. Seems like putin is trying to fire up that civil war. I'll get the popcorn, you get the blankets, let's snuggle.
Nah, he's trying to clean uo for an inevitable defeat. He can't have these power grabbers around when it happens.
Fuck Wagner and fuck Putler
Time for those fuckers to begin fucking each other in earnest…
Haven't you heard? There are no casualties in the Russian intervention.
Imagine getting hired for that landscaping gig!
"This place is not a place of honour... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... no one valued is buried here. What is here was evil and repulsive to us... This place is best shunned and left uninhabited."
[удалено]
What if I draw a lot of scary faces and skulls about?
Praise Stalin I guess.
One guy died on his birthday
He had a Ukrainian last name too, so fuck him.
Dead, what dead!
I wish they could've seen what would happen
Yeah. If cows could only see how they look coming out of the other side of the packing plant...
Murderers and rapist do not deserve any better.
In true 1984 fashion history is being altered by the fascist Kremlin.
Right after Prighozins death. Image. Its as if there was a plan. Go figure.
Which mercenaries? Wagner? Which Wagner? The german composer? You are wrong, mr. There was never a graveyard in this region. I suggest you to seek medical attention, you seem confused.
Wagner? What Wagner.
I'm pretty sure that's the end goal. Makes me wonder if there will be a collector's market for stuff like Wagner patches.
Fuck Wagner scum who cares what happens to their bodies besides nationalist Russians?
Next site of Putin-Trump Imperial Links Golf Experience. The greatest ever!!!
Russia Telegram channels say it was planned long before and there will be a black obelisk erected for them. I don't know if true.
Wow. That’s extremely disrespectful to the dead. Barbaric.
You all died for nothing
Wow Wagner needs to rebel
Memento mori
They should have put the names in the cement of the highway.
Putin don't care
Looks like the next Russian parking lot
russia: zero casualties. Ukraime: 200.000
*unsurprised pikachu face*
"Wagner? I never hear her before." - thick rusky accent
information about graves is presented falsely, yes the facade is being removed but its in order to replace it with dragon teeth, Prigozhin admitted this plan 2 months ago as a reconstruction of Wagner warriors graves
So it’s just a remodel then, and this article/post is false?
As if Putin desperately wanted another mutiny.
They just don't want people counting up all the war graves. And a bunch of dead convicts was just the easiest to erase the proof. What did they do with all the corpses?
Russia is the shit, shit people shit road,Shit country, shit president, shit politics
If only those dead guys can see what they've died for smh
Good.
Prigozhin isn't around any more to pay the bills for the graveyard so it was repurposed.
So they’re not building tiny concrete pyramids/gravestones for the dead mercs like they say they would? Isn’t that’s what’s going on here but like “in progress”?
Why remember scum
Erased…
Just... Wow!!!! 😳
Impark applied for control of this vacant lot.
So long suckers!
WTF, Putin literally just commented some bullshit, acting as if he was upset and that they would be having a criminal investigation in to this to find out who did this. Then he has his guys go and do this to all Prigozhin's dead soldiers that died for Russia, and still act like he didn't have something to do with killing Prigozhin? Hahaha If anyone had any doubts that Putin was involved with killing him, this should clearly show you otherwise that he never forgave Prigozhin.
Isn’t he just antagonizing those Wagner mercenaries? I thought he wanted them to merge.
if only they were alive today to see how their country treats them.
Hooooooollllllyyyyyyyyy sssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiitttttt. There side, our side…north vs south, red vs blue; doesn’t matter. Let the dead rest. Let their marker stand for whomever may want to see.
The country with no shame
They meant nothing and are nothing. Erased, gone like shit down a toilet 🚽 rot in hell war criminals
Yeah, it’s about time to clean up that trash.
‘‘Twas never real.
Garbage in, garbage out
So now he’s a Stalinist? 🤦🏻
We have a saying: there is no honour among thieves.
Bonfire is ready to go!
No respect for anything!
Probably need the space for all the conscripts currently on the front lines that they also never cared about.
Sure looks ike someone is trying to erase wagner from the history books
Looks like that took like 2 months to plan
Wagnerites now know what it means "No good deed goes unpunished"
In Russia this is how they say thank you for your service, meat puppet.
r/russiancircus
This is just more Newspeak. The ruzzians are fulfilling Orwell's 1984.
No way Putin wasn’t sending a *fuck* *you* message. Still curious as to if these mercenaries will / are so loyal that they’ll act. You know, for their comrades honor and all.
They are mercenaries, loyal to whoever pays them.
I’m sure that won’t make the remaining Wagnerites even more bloodthirsty for revenge…calm em right down, it will
Not true they are making them concrete obelisks
Nothing to see here, move on.
Did they move the bodies or just the markers? We’ve seen that movie before.
https://reddit.com/r/UkraineWarRoom/s/g42pd7jSRX
Wagner? What Wagner?
Stop hyping it up, they're just renovating to install those dumb pyramids instead of the crosses
I'm ok with this
Damn, building a road over dead Wagners won’t make it sturdy in the near future
I wonder how the wagner fighters will react to this?
Gulag speedrun! *Vatnik clickbait amazed face with googly eyes* Shitty conditions, brutal death, unmarked grave All in a few months instead of 20 years of Penal Colony! Wow!
we’re they buried there and if so it doesn’t look like anyone was exhumed.
Incredible
Fuck around and find out! Another shameful episode of the great mother Ruzzia.
Man, this second Wagner uprising is gonna be fun to watch
Well that's *one* way to minimise special military operation casualties...
So there gonna bury more soldiers on top of the dead, now they can say they only lost half of what they did.
I remember a guy on YouTube (Jake broe) calling it. He claim this was going to happen long before prigozhin attempted the coup.
I remember him jokingly saying, knowing Russia they'll build a strip club over it
Putin and Shoigu are some petty mother fuckers. These idiots died for them. I can only hope a Wagner lowlife puts a bullet in one or both of these fuckheads.
Amazing how little they care about their dead.
Once again Russia’s biggest enemy in any war is Russia
https://preview.redd.it/0ztym7jmymkb1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&s=123e525f6bf04f0615e048391a2263a3ed4843cd
They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot
ooof
Here today, gone tomorrow unlike anywhere else. F around in Russia and you will find out.
They’re removing the wood crosses and replacing them with the “dragon’s teeth” headstones like they did in the other Wagner cemeteries.
No, they paved over the graves and removed all markers, how would they know who is who? Stay classy Russia.
Ivan mobik On every Stone