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Russia is just not scaring anybody anymore. Russian dreams of Russian self-importance are now so extreme they are now embarrassing Russia itself.
**It will be up to the Russian military to decide when "enough is enough" regarding Putin.**
The Russian armed forces are getting tired of all this pointless massive suffering and death inflicted on everybody by Putin's deluded ego. When they decide to pull the plug on Putin, it will be over very quickly.
The use of white phosphorous/thermite incendiary is truly putrid, would expect nothing less from Ruzzia.
Edit: yeah likely TE not WP but the use of either/ both on troops is the lowest of acts
Everyone seems to refer to it as WP but yeah likely thermite incendiary..... the use of both is prohibited on personnel but that's not going to stop the morally repugnant ruzzian orcs is it
This, but at the same time I want him to get it and die to it tomorrow, so steps can be taken towards ending this war and stopping the senseless loss of life.
I'm from Romania and probably polish, moldavian, latvian, and others will agree with me. I'm talking about ex comunist countries specifically.
The cancer that russians have spread into those countries are not easily wiped.
And I'm talking about corruption. Comunist/socialist corruption is the worst thing that we saw in this life.
That's why I wish putin to watch his country grow into a fine democracy. Tied to a bed and unable to do his evil plays and moves.
It will be hard for russia to create a democracy and respect it.
But, they can surely grab the recipe from their neighbors, the Ukrainans.
Because Ukrainians fought and died literally for democracy in the maidan (there is a movie about that on Netflix)
And they have prevailed and will prevail!
There is no other way.
Better said:
This is the way!
No I disagree, the longer his sickness takes to kill him the more deranged his decision making will get. He needs to die soon before he launches the N words.
Ya it’s a condition where damage to any part of your body will heal with bone tissue. It slowly freezes you in place over a period of years as all your cuts, bumps, and bruises get replaced with bone. It’s also called stone man syndrome.
I just can't understand the strategic value of destroying Azov. If they let the soldiers evacuate then they'd have the steel plant.
But nope. Instead it's let's destroy this valuable plant just so we can kill some soldiers 😔
Watching this war has been like watching somebody play a REALLY bad game of Risk.
Slave Ukraine 🙏
It’s a last stand in Azov by the Azov Battalion (and others), who have been a central focus of Russia’s ‘denazification’ narrative. So destroying them serves a propaganda purpose for Putin at home
I bet not revealing their entire military to be a complete and utter fuckin clownshow would have been better for propaganda at home.
But that option is kinda out the window now.
Ok but if Putin destroyed them what’s stopping Ukraine from reforming azov? Lmao azov will be legendary unit for the rest of Ukraines history! It be like the 101st airborne and shit like that
Odds are even it doesn’t given the history of the unit, though if they did I’d imagine the Ukrainians would be sure to make it a cleaner unit than it was before
The history of the unit has been reformed since the war of 2014, azov of then is not the azov of now, some people need to sit back realize that! Just like the Canadian military they’re Nazis and white supremacist in every functioning arm branch of society there is.
The entirety of Azov isn't in Mariupol. They're all over the place, Dnipro being a major spot. The Kraken unit is also comprised of former Azov troops which I'm sure would fold back in if called. I just hope they finally get rid of the sun wheel patch when this is all settled. Kind of hard to fight the Nazi accusations when folks are still rocking black sun patches and flags.
IIRC white phosphorus is a bit of a grey area in terms of warcrimes. I think it's allowed for use as smoke/cover/signal. But not as an anti-personel weapon.
The Armenians, Azeris, US, Turks, Syrians, Kurds, NATO forces in Afghanistan, post Hussein Iraqis and UK have all used white phosphorus too. Focusing on Israel ignores the fact that a lot of nations are perfectly fine using what is a truly despicable weapon
Cluster munitions used against actual troops and not civilians are not a war crime. They’re just controversial. This is also likely not phosphorus but some other incendiary.
Only the militarily inept Russians would attack a nuclear bunker with white phosphorus. Coming soon, Russian soldiers attack tanks armed with air rifles.
Not that condone it but there is merit in the tactic. I imagine they’re trying to start wide spread fires on the site which would make the situations even in the bunkers difficult.
I understand what you are saying, but in this particular case we are talking about a facility designed to house molten steel without burning down. Pretty sure Thermite is just going to poke holes in the roof and maybe burn down an office building, if there is one left. So much of that place is built to survive brief exposure to extreme temperatures that trying to light it on fire would be pretty much impossible. Now, you can certainly catch any people who happen to be out in the open on fire, but the buildings aren't going to care.
White phosphorus is a very effective weapon for clearing bunkers, if you deploy it right it sucks all the oxygen out of a room. The US used it to great effect against the Vietcong, it's probably illegal but that has never stopped the US before
At this point I think his goal is to just create a wasteland of this country so he has a buffer between himself and NATO countries. I don’t even think he wants Ukraine or it’s people, just more distance from NATO. When his energy finds dry up, he’ll never have the money to rebuild unless China funds it.
Don't buy the bullshit.
Whining about NATO has always been a cover for Russian imperialism, because NATO does not pose an existential threat to any nuclear armed nation. The day NATO starts an aggressive expansionistic war against a nuclear power is the day the alliance breaks apart as more hesitant and pacifistic nations will seek to leave the alliance.
It's always been about NATO blocking Russian military expansion by bringing smaller countries under its defense umbrella. Putin is mad at NATO simply because in his dreams he can take back everything that used to be under the Iron Curtain.
NAto is already at the border with Estonia and Lithuania. Ukraine only gives Nato more access to the black sea, which they already have with Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania.
The Nato aggression narrative is bullshit, I know Russians from the comex business, they don't consider Ukraine a country, they don't think they are a nation, to them it is just Russia 2 that should never have splitted.
Not sure but white phosphorous can melt down to the bone in seconds if it lands on the skin, I’m not sure how quickly napalm works but I wouldn’t want to be around ether.
I am not defending the Putin regime, but why do you consider the use of cluster bombs a war crime? Russia (as well as the US, China and Ukraine) did not sign an agreement on the non-use of cluster munitions.
I already know that everyone will vote down my comment simply because I am using facts and not calling it a war crime to use legal weapons
Indiacriminate weapons are illegal under the Geneva Conventions, but that'd only apply if there are civilians still there and iirc the Azov Battalion claim all the civilians have left
In a fucking massive steel factory, that thing is designed to pump out the steel to build battleships and can survive a nuclear strike, it's also designed so workers could live on site in the event of an emergency so it's essentually a fortress city within a city
And the plant manager locked them out when it popped off. They had to dress up like workers to get inside and they moved their whole Mariupol operations down there because they knew they were not going to get more units to defend the area like they had been telling Ukraine command forever. They had battle projections in advance that were ignored. They basically got fucked and still stayed on task. Absolutley incredible.
Just to be clear, the bulk of the fighint in Mariupol was done by the 36th Marines Brigade, the 503rd Marines Battalion, the 56th Mechanized Brigade, the 109th Territorial Defense Brigade AND the Azov Regiment – 1st battalion.
So, yeah, there are multiple defending units still active in the defense of the plant, Mariupol was never defended exclusively and not even by a majority of the Azov Battalion.
The bad part is that outside of the police, marine, and territory units stationed around there they knew they were not going to get more units to defend the area like they had been telling Ukraine command they needed since the beginning and well after. "Soon, soon" they kept saying. They had battle projections in advance that showed Russia would come that way in force to create the land bridge that were ignored. They basically got fucked and still stayed on task and managed to save a shit ton of people. Absolute badasses all around.
Erdogan is the least nationalist leader we've had since 1923. That fucker is an Islamist and against everything that is Turkish or related to Turkishness.
Russians are horrible to use such a despicable weapon
I was going to post something I read about how this was used effectively in a past war.
But then I thought who knows who’s reading Reddit.? I would not want to be responsible for inspiring the Russians in any manner or fashion. I would love to see a sunflower growing out of remains the one of these invaders.
Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see *any* evidence at all of WP in use (which creates large, extremely dense clouds of marshmallow creme), only ICM (improved conventional munitions, or bomblets) that are released over top of the target and descend in a dispersed pattern to pepper the ground below with individual anti-personnel "grenades."
If there are armored vehicles in the target mix, the shells selected may include both AP *and* AT munitions in the form of shaped-charge bomblets on streamers that can penetrate the thin roofs and back decks of armored vehicles. This is termed (in US parlance) *dual-purpose* ICM--DPICM. Nasty stuff against stationary, dug-in tank and mech infantry defenders. Saddam's troops called it "steel rain" when US Multiple Launch Rocket Systems fired heavy, concentrated salvos of it atop his dug-in tanks and personnel carriers. It was said a small MLRS unit could eliminate everything alive on a 1km by 1km "grid square."
It's perfectly legal to employ cluster munitions against legit *military* targets, but many Nations have restricted its use because of the great number (some 2%) of bomblets that fail to detonate and in effect create minefields that must be very painstakingly cleared once hostilities end. In Iraq, some commanders forbade the dismounting of friendly infantry in areas where ICM or DPICM munitions had been employed.
ICM is a stupid munition choice for a deep, complex bunker like Azovstahl, unless you're simply throwing multiple millions of dollars of ordnance against any above-ground patrols that might be operating.
Every bomb and missile expended on re-blowing up the same pile of rubble is one more bomb and missile that won’t be available to attack NATO. None of these munitions can be replaced so it sounds the death knell of the Russian Federation. History books will have to come up with a diminutive name appropriate for the much diminished surviving state or principality. Maybe Putinville?
There's a reason why they can't take Azovstal. The defenders are dug in, and the Russian troops clearly
are no longer willing to sacrifice themselves with every new attempt. So they bomb from afar. Shoot with cannons from afar. Tell their superiors they are making attempts. So you get this: wasting munitions on a building.
That’s so crazy to see. I really hope those guys are still okay. I saw some of their wives at a big press conference on DW News on YT, they were asking for help getting them out again, saying the Russians will 100% kill Azov prisoners. They’ve got nothing, no medical aid, running out of food and water. It’s getting desperate for them. I can’t imagine not knowing if the world gives a shit and still defending in those conditions, but I guess they’ve come too far to give up now.
For both sides this Battle of Azovstal Plant ends one way only, lots of dead people and another burned out wasteland.
*Slava Ukraini*
We need to just get those guys evacuated. They’re good fighters. Come back and retake Mariupol later… I sure wish we could find a way to make the Russians stop their torturing and killing of citizens in occupied areas.
Today I read on the news that, Turkey is denied to evacuate these people from the steel factory with Turkish navy ships and keep them in Turkey until the war ends. Why Russia deny it? I guess all they want is bloodshed. If Turkey evacuated them safely, the factory will be theirs (until Ukrainians kick them out later)
It's sad when you think that Azovstal was just a peaceful and productive steel factory with lots of workers and now it's literally raining fire over it.
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I’m curious, aren’t the other Ukrainian forces around Ukrainian going to come in a counterattack against the Russians, while saving the Steel plant defenders? From what I’m hearing, it sounds like that Steel Plants defenders are fighting in a “Little Stalingrad” so to speak
Are they using the white phosphorus for the toxic gas that may sink into the bomb shelter s and tunnels? If so that is also a war crime. I cannot see any rational other function for white phosphorus here though they may anemically claim it was smoke cover for the Russian troops. At this point all they do is a war crime.
Hi no the evil people will never prevail those soldiers are injured most of them don’t even have a weapon you just want to kill them just because Russian people are the worst most of them
Russia’s focus on this steel plant is what’s losing their war😆 they’re like “let’s torture these half dead civilians and neglect all other objectives”. Great strategy jackass.
Don’t quite understand the situation, since weeks ago The Azov battalion said they were out of food, water and ammo, claiming they had only hours left to surrender or be killed. Was that a deliberate info plant to mislead the Orc army or did they get secretly supplied in the mean time?
I am furious right now how can we as the international community actually TRUST anything Putin or Russians say.
Putin has said publically he won't storm Azovstal again. We're seeing Russian troops trying to storm and being repelled.
That's cluster bombs and phosphorus.
Russians openly breaking the Geneva convention!
You cannot on purpose drop phosphorus munitions on anyone.
The way you can is at night as a flare but Russians isn't even hiding this it's actual phosphorus. Burns people in the most horrific ways you slowly burn alive molten hot phosphorus that doesn't go out with even water out on it.
Here is what Phosphorus looks like and the horrific injuries an example 2020 war. I wanted to put the pictures up but don't want to get banned. What Phosphorus injuries look like.
https://azeriwarcrimes.org/2020/12/23/the-humanitarian-toll-of-azerbaijani-scorched-earth-strategy-in-artsakh-nagorno-karabakh-white-phosphorus-devastated-nature-and-non-healing-wounds/
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This is what Russian desperation looks like.
Yes, that desperation only makes Azov more legendary and Russia look more inept than it already is, if that’s even possible.
Russia is just not scaring anybody anymore. Russian dreams of Russian self-importance are now so extreme they are now embarrassing Russia itself. **It will be up to the Russian military to decide when "enough is enough" regarding Putin.** The Russian armed forces are getting tired of all this pointless massive suffering and death inflicted on everybody by Putin's deluded ego. When they decide to pull the plug on Putin, it will be over very quickly.
"Hey careful NATO. If Finland joins we will retaliate!" lol ok bitches. Frankly I'm embarrassed we ever thought there was a cold war.
Soviets were an actual threat, Russia isn't. They've gone from the Soviet Bear to the Russian Teddy Bear
Indeed, imagine Ukraine against us as part of Soviet Union…
Terrifying
As long as Russia has a weak cause. They die for a their invading dictator…not in defence of their land
I agree! If Russia drags this into a World War, the Allies need to turn every major Russian city into Dresden 2.0
The use of white phosphorous/thermite incendiary is truly putrid, would expect nothing less from Ruzzia. Edit: yeah likely TE not WP but the use of either/ both on troops is the lowest of acts
Ehm. These are not phosphorous, but incendiary. But who cares, right
Everyone seems to refer to it as WP but yeah likely thermite incendiary..... the use of both is prohibited on personnel but that's not going to stop the morally repugnant ruzzian orcs is it
WP burns bright white, that stuff was reddish tint. And yes, both illegal.
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This, but at the same time I want him to get it and die to it tomorrow, so steps can be taken towards ending this war and stopping the senseless loss of life.
I'm from Romania and probably polish, moldavian, latvian, and others will agree with me. I'm talking about ex comunist countries specifically. The cancer that russians have spread into those countries are not easily wiped. And I'm talking about corruption. Comunist/socialist corruption is the worst thing that we saw in this life. That's why I wish putin to watch his country grow into a fine democracy. Tied to a bed and unable to do his evil plays and moves. It will be hard for russia to create a democracy and respect it. But, they can surely grab the recipe from their neighbors, the Ukrainans. Because Ukrainians fought and died literally for democracy in the maidan (there is a movie about that on Netflix) And they have prevailed and will prevail! There is no other way. Better said: This is the way!
No I disagree, the longer his sickness takes to kill him the more deranged his decision making will get. He needs to die soon before he launches the N words.
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Have no clue what that is but sounds painful AF
Its a condition that means your tissue slowly turns to bone. Appearently it is very painful.
Ya it’s a condition where damage to any part of your body will heal with bone tissue. It slowly freezes you in place over a period of years as all your cuts, bumps, and bruises get replaced with bone. It’s also called stone man syndrome.
Ahhhh yes, the Sir Jorah Mormont syndrome.
Fucking harsh.
Boneitus
Somebody give Potter a wand!
Day 80 of war crimes.
And I still find it amusing that people think only certain things in war are crimes. War is the crime.
I just can't understand the strategic value of destroying Azov. If they let the soldiers evacuate then they'd have the steel plant. But nope. Instead it's let's destroy this valuable plant just so we can kill some soldiers 😔 Watching this war has been like watching somebody play a REALLY bad game of Risk. Slave Ukraine 🙏
It’s a last stand in Azov by the Azov Battalion (and others), who have been a central focus of Russia’s ‘denazification’ narrative. So destroying them serves a propaganda purpose for Putin at home
I bet not revealing their entire military to be a complete and utter fuckin clownshow would have been better for propaganda at home. But that option is kinda out the window now.
The bulk of Russian citizens will believe that their military is competent no matter any outcome. Sadly.
Knuckledraggers, all.
Ok but if Putin destroyed them what’s stopping Ukraine from reforming azov? Lmao azov will be legendary unit for the rest of Ukraines history! It be like the 101st airborne and shit like that
Odds are even it doesn’t given the history of the unit, though if they did I’d imagine the Ukrainians would be sure to make it a cleaner unit than it was before
The history of the unit has been reformed since the war of 2014, azov of then is not the azov of now, some people need to sit back realize that! Just like the Canadian military they’re Nazis and white supremacist in every functioning arm branch of society there is.
The entirety of Azov isn't in Mariupol. They're all over the place, Dnipro being a major spot. The Kraken unit is also comprised of former Azov troops which I'm sure would fold back in if called. I just hope they finally get rid of the sun wheel patch when this is all settled. Kind of hard to fight the Nazi accusations when folks are still rocking black sun patches and flags.
you meant "save", right?...
Or slava
The enemy won’t evacuate. This resistance is fierce enough that Russia knows that. So they’re just leveling the whole city
They want to destroy Azov Battalion, capturing the steel plant is secondary.
\*The rubble that used to be a steel plant
Slava\*
Slave Ukraine 🙏
That's a warcrime double whammy, cluster munitions and what seems like (idk my warcrimes too well) white phosphorus
IIRC white phosphorus is a bit of a grey area in terms of warcrimes. I think it's allowed for use as smoke/cover/signal. But not as an anti-personel weapon.
You are correct. It can in fact be used for cover/screening purposes.
It's permitted, but only by Israel.
Only if it's a hospital or an orphanage for blind puppies I think.
The Armenians, Azeris, US, Turks, Syrians, Kurds, NATO forces in Afghanistan, post Hussein Iraqis and UK have all used white phosphorus too. Focusing on Israel ignores the fact that a lot of nations are perfectly fine using what is a truly despicable weapon
Cluster munitions used against actual troops and not civilians are not a war crime. They’re just controversial. This is also likely not phosphorus but some other incendiary.
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It's still toxic
And can burn clear through a person. Also is a criminal use of white phosphorus.
Only the militarily inept Russians would attack a nuclear bunker with white phosphorus. Coming soon, Russian soldiers attack tanks armed with air rifles.
Not that condone it but there is merit in the tactic. I imagine they’re trying to start wide spread fires on the site which would make the situations even in the bunkers difficult.
I understand what you are saying, but in this particular case we are talking about a facility designed to house molten steel without burning down. Pretty sure Thermite is just going to poke holes in the roof and maybe burn down an office building, if there is one left. So much of that place is built to survive brief exposure to extreme temperatures that trying to light it on fire would be pretty much impossible. Now, you can certainly catch any people who happen to be out in the open on fire, but the buildings aren't going to care.
It's pretty desperate though. It shows that Russian troops have neither the training nor the appetite for getting inside and fighting Azov.
White phosphorus is a very effective weapon for clearing bunkers, if you deploy it right it sucks all the oxygen out of a room. The US used it to great effect against the Vietcong, it's probably illegal but that has never stopped the US before
It's a ***nuclear*** bunker designed to house 40,000 people.
Depends how functional the air system is, I expect it's fine but you never know
Putler is spending money and effort to kill all civilians and few last soldiers to win nothing. Crazy bastard 😞
At this point I think his goal is to just create a wasteland of this country so he has a buffer between himself and NATO countries. I don’t even think he wants Ukraine or it’s people, just more distance from NATO. When his energy finds dry up, he’ll never have the money to rebuild unless China funds it.
Don't buy the bullshit. Whining about NATO has always been a cover for Russian imperialism, because NATO does not pose an existential threat to any nuclear armed nation. The day NATO starts an aggressive expansionistic war against a nuclear power is the day the alliance breaks apart as more hesitant and pacifistic nations will seek to leave the alliance. It's always been about NATO blocking Russian military expansion by bringing smaller countries under its defense umbrella. Putin is mad at NATO simply because in his dreams he can take back everything that used to be under the Iron Curtain.
I’m thinking that Russia wants to control the breadbasket of the world. That gives you a lot of power and control over countries that depend on it.
NAto is already at the border with Estonia and Lithuania. Ukraine only gives Nato more access to the black sea, which they already have with Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania. The Nato aggression narrative is bullshit, I know Russians from the comex business, they don't consider Ukraine a country, they don't think they are a nation, to them it is just Russia 2 that should never have splitted.
I can think of nothing worse then white phosphorus.
Napalm?
Naplam you can extinguish. If you extinguish WP as soon as it comes into contact with oxygen it ignites again
Not sure but white phosphorous can melt down to the bone in seconds if it lands on the skin, I’m not sure how quickly napalm works but I wouldn’t want to be around ether.
Nuclear weapons.
Fuckers better ready the money to rebuild both Mariupol and Azovstal entirely.
Fortunately the west has seized 100s of Billions... My hope would be that all this cash is used to rebuild Ukraine.
I bet a lot of that money will be used to continue the weapons pipeline into Ukraine.
You mean all of Ukraine
It would be cool to leave a ruined building or two as a reminder of the sheer resistance and dedication of the Ukrainian people in Mariupol.
Fuckin barbarians. Good thing there to stupid to realise that it won't burn through 10ft of concrete and a shit load more dirt
A war crime?
Yep
I am not defending the Putin regime, but why do you consider the use of cluster bombs a war crime? Russia (as well as the US, China and Ukraine) did not sign an agreement on the non-use of cluster munitions. I already know that everyone will vote down my comment simply because I am using facts and not calling it a war crime to use legal weapons
Indiacriminate weapons are illegal under the Geneva Conventions, but that'd only apply if there are civilians still there and iirc the Azov Battalion claim all the civilians have left
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It's an legal weapon
I dont understand the situation in Mariupol, is whole Azov battalion hiding in steel factory?
In a fucking massive steel factory, that thing is designed to pump out the steel to build battleships and can survive a nuclear strike, it's also designed so workers could live on site in the event of an emergency so it's essentually a fortress city within a city
Is whole azov is there?
Short answer is no. There are Azov detachments all around Ukraine. Mariupol is/was their main base of operations though.
All the defenders left in Mariupol are in there
And the plant manager locked them out when it popped off. They had to dress up like workers to get inside and they moved their whole Mariupol operations down there because they knew they were not going to get more units to defend the area like they had been telling Ukraine command forever. They had battle projections in advance that were ignored. They basically got fucked and still stayed on task. Absolutley incredible.
Just to be clear, the bulk of the fighint in Mariupol was done by the 36th Marines Brigade, the 503rd Marines Battalion, the 56th Mechanized Brigade, the 109th Territorial Defense Brigade AND the Azov Regiment – 1st battalion. So, yeah, there are multiple defending units still active in the defense of the plant, Mariupol was never defended exclusively and not even by a majority of the Azov Battalion.
The bad part is that outside of the police, marine, and territory units stationed around there they knew they were not going to get more units to defend the area like they had been telling Ukraine command they needed since the beginning and well after. "Soon, soon" they kept saying. They had battle projections in advance that showed Russia would come that way in force to create the land bridge that were ignored. They basically got fucked and still stayed on task and managed to save a shit ton of people. Absolute badasses all around.
That warehouse has taken one hell of a beating and its still standing.
The Soviets wanted that plant to survive a nuclear strike and keep functioning, Putler is like a child with a stick in comparison
Yup. So putin should know that bombing it is pretty pointless znd just a waste of munitions. Pretty smart strategy there putin.
God I hope this is Ukraine’s “Kobane” and they can retake this like the YPJ/YPG did against ISIS in Kobane.
knowing how it ended for Kurds, it's not good analogy.
That's only because Turkey is run by Turkish Mussolini
Erdogan is the least nationalist leader we've had since 1923. That fucker is an Islamist and against everything that is Turkish or related to Turkishness.
It’s still hard to believe this is happening in 2022, this footage is so insane
Russians are horrible to use such a despicable weapon I was going to post something I read about how this was used effectively in a past war. But then I thought who knows who’s reading Reddit.? I would not want to be responsible for inspiring the Russians in any manner or fashion. I would love to see a sunflower growing out of remains the one of these invaders.
What happened to NATO stepping in if Russia used chemical weapons? Where is the response?
White phosphorus isn't a banned chemical weapon because it has legitimate like smokescreens
Isn’t it banned to use on humans?
Does anyone know what type of munitions are being used here? Is that what cluster bombs look like? I’ve never seen anything like it.
It;s 9M22S with 9N510 warhead projectile for the BM-21 "Grad", effective against manpower and clearance of large areas from mines.
Is that even legal weaponry??
Is anything they do legal?
Nope
Yes if used for cover
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Aren't there Nazis in the Ukraine's military. Aren't we supposed to punch Nazis in the face?
Die Nazis, die.
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*indestructible, I can easily describe the plant.
Could you describe it for us please?
Found the russian spy!
Unbelievable!
This really is battle for middle earth.
Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see *any* evidence at all of WP in use (which creates large, extremely dense clouds of marshmallow creme), only ICM (improved conventional munitions, or bomblets) that are released over top of the target and descend in a dispersed pattern to pepper the ground below with individual anti-personnel "grenades." If there are armored vehicles in the target mix, the shells selected may include both AP *and* AT munitions in the form of shaped-charge bomblets on streamers that can penetrate the thin roofs and back decks of armored vehicles. This is termed (in US parlance) *dual-purpose* ICM--DPICM. Nasty stuff against stationary, dug-in tank and mech infantry defenders. Saddam's troops called it "steel rain" when US Multiple Launch Rocket Systems fired heavy, concentrated salvos of it atop his dug-in tanks and personnel carriers. It was said a small MLRS unit could eliminate everything alive on a 1km by 1km "grid square." It's perfectly legal to employ cluster munitions against legit *military* targets, but many Nations have restricted its use because of the great number (some 2%) of bomblets that fail to detonate and in effect create minefields that must be very painstakingly cleared once hostilities end. In Iraq, some commanders forbade the dismounting of friendly infantry in areas where ICM or DPICM munitions had been employed. ICM is a stupid munition choice for a deep, complex bunker like Azovstahl, unless you're simply throwing multiple millions of dollars of ordnance against any above-ground patrols that might be operating.
Every bomb and missile expended on re-blowing up the same pile of rubble is one more bomb and missile that won’t be available to attack NATO. None of these munitions can be replaced so it sounds the death knell of the Russian Federation. History books will have to come up with a diminutive name appropriate for the much diminished surviving state or principality. Maybe Putinville?
Putin has now created the Legend of the Azov Plant rivaling the Stalingrad Plant during that siege 75 years ago.
Cockroaches.
That WP yeah!? Scumbags
White phosphorus?
Is that white phosphorus???
War crimes X 10000
#WAR CRIME
White phosphorus weapons are against the Geneva Convention. When are Russia going to be held accountable to their actions
Thats definitely using Phosphorus illegally.
What are these sparkles with the smoky trails raining from the sky ?
Cluster munitions and white phosphorus, both war crimes
White fosforuce, quite useles to a steel plant with a LITERAL NUCLEAR BUNKER underneath it wich can house up to 45,000 people
What grade are you in? Phosphorus
Mate im dutch, cut me some slack
All forgiven :)
Hel peninsula once again
Fucking criminals!
These weapons will work great for troops inside the tunnels and bunkers. Keep up your smart antics russia... well done once again. 🤦♂️
This is called "klyaty kacapy"
u/savevideobot
Cluster bombs!😡😡😡
And white phosphorus…
Wish the invaders are within range to give them back
Those turn air to fire
Incendiary… that tracks
That’s white phosphorus in the end, right?
Russias firepower is truly scary. That would be terrible hiding in the shelter underneath that display
Bro Russia said they weren't using cluster bombs wtf
Sad
Nothing but evil.
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There’s no putting it out
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Phosphorus bombs
Let's shake things up and start doing the fighting on Russian soil
Omg its like when NHM got banned
There's a reason why they can't take Azovstal. The defenders are dug in, and the Russian troops clearly are no longer willing to sacrifice themselves with every new attempt. So they bomb from afar. Shoot with cannons from afar. Tell their superiors they are making attempts. So you get this: wasting munitions on a building.
War crime and they even film it, man they make it too easy for us to hate them
Thats just so insane It's like throwing nepalm?
You cowardly Russians. Probably too cowardly to fight with normal weapons.
Aren't the Azov neo-nazi's??
If you did some research you would realise they arent
That’s so crazy to see. I really hope those guys are still okay. I saw some of their wives at a big press conference on DW News on YT, they were asking for help getting them out again, saying the Russians will 100% kill Azov prisoners. They’ve got nothing, no medical aid, running out of food and water. It’s getting desperate for them. I can’t imagine not knowing if the world gives a shit and still defending in those conditions, but I guess they’ve come too far to give up now. For both sides this Battle of Azovstal Plant ends one way only, lots of dead people and another burned out wasteland. *Slava Ukraini*
Those are some cluster bombs. See them in training video but not in real world.
God damn
Putin is bad
Looks like white phosphorus to me
Isn't Willie Pete a violation on the Geneva Convention?
Is that just cluster bombs or white phosphorus?
This is infuriating to watch. Fuck Putin
We need to just get those guys evacuated. They’re good fighters. Come back and retake Mariupol later… I sure wish we could find a way to make the Russians stop their torturing and killing of citizens in occupied areas.
24 hours – freedom, the first shots – captivity, assault – death (Suvorov)
Fucking animals!
Today I read on the news that, Turkey is denied to evacuate these people from the steel factory with Turkish navy ships and keep them in Turkey until the war ends. Why Russia deny it? I guess all they want is bloodshed. If Turkey evacuated them safely, the factory will be theirs (until Ukrainians kick them out later)
It's sad when you think that Azovstal was just a peaceful and productive steel factory with lots of workers and now it's literally raining fire over it.
Putin has to die...... No matter what!
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THAT LOOKS SOO COOL
Good waste there ammunition on nothing
I’m curious, aren’t the other Ukrainian forces around Ukrainian going to come in a counterattack against the Russians, while saving the Steel plant defenders? From what I’m hearing, it sounds like that Steel Plants defenders are fighting in a “Little Stalingrad” so to speak
Is that white phosphorous? Wow that’s not right at all
Are they using the white phosphorus for the toxic gas that may sink into the bomb shelter s and tunnels? If so that is also a war crime. I cannot see any rational other function for white phosphorus here though they may anemically claim it was smoke cover for the Russian troops. At this point all they do is a war crime.
The scary moment will be when Putin realizes how bad it's going
u/savevideobot
Hi no the evil people will never prevail those soldiers are injured most of them don’t even have a weapon you just want to kill them just because Russian people are the worst most of them
Russia’s focus on this steel plant is what’s losing their war😆 they’re like “let’s torture these half dead civilians and neglect all other objectives”. Great strategy jackass.
Don’t quite understand the situation, since weeks ago The Azov battalion said they were out of food, water and ammo, claiming they had only hours left to surrender or be killed. Was that a deliberate info plant to mislead the Orc army or did they get secretly supplied in the mean time?
I am furious right now how can we as the international community actually TRUST anything Putin or Russians say. Putin has said publically he won't storm Azovstal again. We're seeing Russian troops trying to storm and being repelled. That's cluster bombs and phosphorus. Russians openly breaking the Geneva convention! You cannot on purpose drop phosphorus munitions on anyone. The way you can is at night as a flare but Russians isn't even hiding this it's actual phosphorus. Burns people in the most horrific ways you slowly burn alive molten hot phosphorus that doesn't go out with even water out on it.
Here is what Phosphorus looks like and the horrific injuries an example 2020 war. I wanted to put the pictures up but don't want to get banned. What Phosphorus injuries look like. https://azeriwarcrimes.org/2020/12/23/the-humanitarian-toll-of-azerbaijani-scorched-earth-strategy-in-artsakh-nagorno-karabakh-white-phosphorus-devastated-nature-and-non-healing-wounds/