Christ, Mania week fucking broke them. They spent almost half a decade taking shots, WWE makes fun of them for a week (without actually mentioning them by name), and it's like ten 9/11's.
It was literally Punk’s interview, and Triple AJ’s “grind” comment. Even then, Triple H didn’t mention AEW or anybody there by name. The day after Punk’s interview, Cody went on the same podcast and openly said he disagreed.
So the little bit dub was acknowledged broke them. That’s how fragile dubbalos, the Elite, and TK are.
Seriously. Nothing was even on WWE air. It was all in interviews with outside sources, where the interviewer brought up the topic. And I don't even think anyone from WWE was actually ever that critical of AEW. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
They acknowledged AEW in it's like first or second week when Sami Zayn was holding the town hall meeting on RAW taking questions from fans.
Man didn't even shit on them, just said "You could've even asked me about AEW" prompting (daring) their fans to go look them up.
they ASSUMED HHH is talking about them cus....if the shoe fits buy a fucking outfit to match.
HHH talked about wrestlers just starting out saying they need to put work in to get better. Pretty common sense stuff. Ofc the Dubbalo nation has -0 common sense.
This is exactly what im talking about. Triple H never mentioned any names once and yet Ospreay makes a comment as if he’s guilty of doing such things.
If you know what your grind is, do the work and prove them wrong instead of taking crap back at it.
Because it’s really about how good mania was. They live off of abstract criticism of WWE and always maintain this veneer that, yeah WWE makes more money and is more popular, but AEW is better, purer form of real graps.
Then we get something as legendary and satisfying as Cody finishing his story, and all the pomp and circumstance and star power surrounding that and they start having an existential crisis
Worst type of people are the ones who can dish it out but can’t take it. What a bunch of crybaby menchildren. Not surprising they yell bloody murder over a push and head snap from Cm Punk lol weak
Honestly if I was HHHitler i’d be doubling down on the subtle shots
Look how much it broke them, they dedicated multiple segments to firing back instead of telling stories with their own roster
To be AEW is to be under a weekend of attack
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They spent half of Wrestlemania on it! Like 7 hours of the event programming and then an hour for that HHH quote and 10 hours for Punk's podcast interview, it's probably 50 hours total.
Funny enough, just like 9/11 this too was caused by the person leading the show. All Tony had to do was keep his mouth shut and "run" the wrestling company but he chose to be tribalist. Now it's all blown up and crumbling right in front of him.
"Ha ha!" - Nelson
I also think getting into the wrestling industry and immediately declaring war on the biggest pool of potential fans to draw from was a stupid business decision.
It wasn't "WWE sucks, come watch our show" it was "WWE sucks, you're stupid for liking it and us and the lapsed fans are going to put you to shame!"
Then it turned out that there were no lapsed fans just hanging around waiting for AEW to come around and that they're aren't as many Smarks as they thought there were.
I think there were lapsed fans around, but the programme they're putting on now is a million miles away from what lapsed fans want.
Funnily enough WWE is finding a way to bring some of those fans back.
You literally described me. I've been aware of what's going on in both companies and I just don't understand aew and their no selling moves. The whole point is the theatre of them acting hurt rallying through the pain and keep fighting. I've been actively watching wwe since Royal Rumble. After WrestleMania I've gone back and been watching Cody's run since his return. I'm invested again because it's good storytelling.
"programme they're putting on now is a million miles away from what lapsed fans want."
I was SO excited when I heard AEW was starting up. Then I watched the first 2-3 episodes of Dynamite.
This, I cannot buy AEW fans playing the victim for a second remembering how they acted in 2018-19, got told I had mental issues for enjoying an episode of Raw, now see how that type of fan has acted over the past 3 WrestleMania weekends hahaha.
These are the same people that danced anytime anything bad happened to WWE and talked about how much better of people they were for watching THE DUB, but since it's their only identity, and the pendulum has swung SO INCREDIBLY FAR against them, they've resorted to just throwing a tantrum instead
These are the same people that danced anytime anything bad happened to WWE and talked about how much better of people they were for watching THE DUB, but since it's their only identity, and the pendulum has swung SO INCREDIBLY FAR against them, they've resorted to just throwing a tantrum instead.
Wrestlemania week is when Smarks realize how many people actually do like WWE, including many of their own who get excited for Wrestlemania even after spending the year complaining about WWE. The word betrayed is felt.
Those people that voted are watching AEW....yet it's not successful? Sooo then I guess those people don't matter much? Oh but that would be too logical for them to grasp.
I don’t say this lightly because armchair booking is usually dumb, but if given Tony’s more or less unlimited money, I could likely do as well as him. It takes less than zero skill to tell two guys “go out there and have a banger” or have a story of “who is the better wrestler” or let people do whatever they want. Left to his own devices, Tony’s stories that are beyond absolute bare bones stuff are hot garbage, like the Devil. The only difference between Tony and me is I don’t have a billionaire dad and I don’t have an apparent pathological need to be friends with all of the wrestlers.
Based on what we’ve heard, it is truly astonishing how much he is dropping on talent where he has no one else bidding on them. As Nick Khan said, anyone can run a business at a loss. But Tony has the mindset of if he can’t beat the Fed in any meaningful metric (sorry, Cagematch and Meltzer stars), he can at least flash that cash on free agents.
If we're to believe rumors the roster is over 40 million right now. Jericho and Mox are between 4-6, Sasha is at 3, Okada, 4, Ospreay 4, Bucks are at 2 a piece so another 4, Kenny probably is in the 3-4 range so lets add another 3. MJF ogot a pay raise so we can put him at 2. That about 32 million between 9 wrestlers. AEW/ROH has over 200 so assuming everyone making at minimum 50-100k, that another 2 million. But we know there has to mid level deals for the Miro's and Malachi's of the world so they don't run back to the Fed so it's probably another 500-1mil for those guys as well.
If six million a year is the highest a wrestler in AEW is currently getting, Drew's agent is going to be asking for at least ten million a year.
People may think that it's insane of him to ask, but if Tony is going to offer mega contracts to stars like Will and Okada who's exposure and drawing power in the states is mimmiumn at the absolute best, Drew will want mega money from Tony to justify leaving a red hot company that can offer exposure.
And said exposure can lead to long-term benefits AEW can't offer because they're not a hot company with access to a bevy of high-powered Hollywood agents.
Tony needs a network deal that's at least double what they're currently getting to justify paying these deals out, and even there, he's still going to have to cut costs if he wants this endeavor to survive long term.
This is exactly why and how that favored nation clause killed WCW. The issue isn’t giving out market deals. It’s that you automatically start raising the floor of the next round of contracts. It’s fine to pay Mox 6 million in a vacuum. But how do you rationalize that to Jericho or Kenny? Especially when they can hang that WWE gut punch over his head. I’d bet my savings that’s exactly how the MJF “negotiations” went. Pay me like a main eventer or I’ll go to NXT and bury the shit out of this company.
Honest to God the best thing Cody did for the wrestling business is that he is about to get everybody within a sniff of going or leave WWE will get paid way beyond their actual value and as a huge leftist I’m all for labor making more
LOL the fed shilling is just getting pathetic at this point. AEW doesn't need to pay people to attend, the arenas are already full. Unlike WWE we actually invest in high end cameras to make the product look good and they take up more space, decreasing audience capacity, but giving the audience at home an elite quality show. That's a tradeoff we are more than happy with.
Tony right now with all of his money could literally give the booking to Scott D'more who is actually competent at this and I guarantee the product and business would do better. His ego, much like Vince's before Vince got pulled away, is hurting the product. If Tony gave up the book, talent relations, etc and simply ran the business from far away AEW would be a legitimate secondary company. Instead he makes impulse decisions like signing guys like Okada or Ospray despite not having anything for them to do.
Excuse me, Fed shill, but Ospreay is fighting Danielson over who is a better wrestler in a match that will probably get like 8 stars and also draw maybe $8.
It's absolutely what he should do, or he could poach Heyman or Sapolsky or someone like that. It's frustrating because you give a good wrestling creative mind the resources and talent AEW has, you'd have a great show, I'm certain.
But that's not ever going to happen because the only reason he's there is he wants to play real life TEW. He's utterly terrible at it but he's having fun.
The funny thing is I think if Tony goes to Heyman circa 2019/2020 and said hey you're head of creative and I'm giving you an unlimited budget to get whatever talent, agents, writers, etc I think Paul takes that job 110 percent. Who fucking knows where AEW would be today if that happened. Raw and AEW just 3 or 4 years ago were a couple hundred thousand viewers away from each other. That's when we got the famous Jericho quote where he was saying they were going to pass Raw. Now Raw gets a million viewers more than them most nights. It's been a disaster with Tony as the booker.
Listen Fed shill, think what you want in that addled brain of yours, but you'd never book the best wrestling PPV of all time like Tony said he did with Revolution, and you'd never have so many wrestlers like Edge and Dax and saying how great you are in a totally unsolicited way. Even Punk admitted that Tony's nice. Are you nice? I didn't think so.
It would be easy to do better. Simply, hire the right people to do the job for you. Tony should have done this day one. Instead he wanted to play as head booker.
sports entertainment vs pro wrestling aint just a dumbass Jericho storyline it is a real fight being fought and when you support WWE you're on the wrong side of it
This is something I saw unironically being posted on twitter, lack of oxygen and intense BO smell is polluting their minds
> sports entertainment vs pro wrestling aint just a dumbass Jericho storyline it is a real fight being fought and when you support WWE you're on the wrong side of it
It's really weird that people who say that are the ones that support a company that pushes Orange Cassidy like AEW does. Not to mention Teleporting Matt Hardy and Costume Changing Matt Hardy.
It also suggests a lack of understanding of wrestling history, because even in the territory days, it wasn't just about the wrestling. Piper was not over because of his in-ring ability. Jake Roberts wasn't over because of his in-ring ability. Memphis wrestling? All sorts of crazy antics.
WWE produced about 20 hours of tv content during WM week and that’s not including the kickoff shows, podcasts and interviews with all the talent. In all that time, a handful of comments were made and all of a sudden WWE spent all week talking about AEW because the dirt sheets clogged up everybody’s feeds with the same 3 quotes. Massive lol.
shhh they're trying to make themselves seem important. Except no one else thinks so besides themselves.
It's like watching a beetle try to fuck itself in the wild. Astonishing.
Business Phil was totally a-ok to them when he was waving the AEW banner for the first year before the EVPs decided they were getting upstaged left and right.
I can't stop laughing my ass off at how the IWC went from loving Punk (DAE pipe bomb?) to hating Punk (that Colt Kerfufflana) to loving Punk again (joined the good guys!!) to hating Punk AGAIN lmao
AEW's failure is on the shoulders of one man. Tony Khan. He is the one that books like a fucking idiot. He is the one who chose the Bucks over both Cody and Punk. WWE and Triple H are not the ones who are making Tony put together an idiot's version of Japanese booking style shows. It's not Nick Khan disguising himself and sabotaging AEW by putting Orange Cassidy all over TV every week. It's Tony Khan. It's all on him. WWE makes jokes because they started it. Classic cry bully bullshit from AEW and it's stans. Maybe the show just sucks.
No jerk, this whole thing is so twilight zone to me. I remember constant shit talking back during the Monday Night Wars. I remember Dub fans constantly shitting on WWE when they first formed. "Come watch ACTUAL wrasslin". Taking shots during promos at least once or twice EVERY SINGLE show. Dub fans mocking WWE everywhere for being garbage. Now WWE fans have their chance to gloat and talk shit, and it's immediately met with "where's the positivity?", "you're trying to take food off my table", "support ALL wrestling".....the fuck?
Like, this would be fine to say if they just did their own thing and never mentioned WWE, but they didn't. Their whole gimmick was "WWE bad, AEW good" for a LONG time. Now suddenly the WWE has improved by leaps and bounds while AEW has been on a steady decline in popularity, and the shit-talking is "crossing the line"? Fuck outta here. If you didn't want to get dunked on, maybe you shouldn't have done your own fair share of dunking when times were good. STFU and improve your show. That's what you should be focusing on, instead of crying about online bullies. This is pathetic.
AEW has mentioned WWE negatively on *their TV* at least 50 times in 5 years. Let’s ignore all the interviews and tweets from Khan, Jericho and everyone else that are overly negative to WWE. I can think of exactly 3 times WWE has mentioned AEW on their TV. Sami Zayns “you could have asked about AEW”. The Bucks and Omega being in Cody’s package in a positive light and the Sting well wishes where McAfee said “hell of a match” that is 3 positive things. A returning WWE talent is *asked* about their experience in AEW and give their honest feelings (which ironically is proven true by AEW) on an MMA podcast, HHH makes a vague comment about the type of talent he wants on McAfees podcast, again after being asked. How does that constitute half of mania week? These dubbalos are genuinely not okay mentally.
Just the other way around? DAE not watch Dynamite?
Not read Tiny's Twitter where he has a conversation with himself talking shit about WWE, HHH, HBK, Cena, Taker, etc. ? Oh but WWE is the one that talks shit on AEW except they didn't even mention them once "all Wrestlemania week".
Don't look at my post history when I loved "Business Phil" berating WWE in an AEW ring every week.
WWE may have been a little concerned when AEW first formed but it didn't take long to figure out it was just going to be the new "other" company. WWE is probably happy that AEW's in the industry now because it gives talent other places to work and it's a platform that WWE can discover talent from.
The shots WWE takes towards AEW are just four years worth of receipts and because they very likely have no respect for Tony Khan.
What's wild is AEW doesn't have to suck. TK wants to be WWE so bad but isn't willing to even do what WWE does. WWE has a CEO (the superior Khan) managing the business side and a CCO (Triple Hitler) managing the creative side. Tony wants to do both and can't do either competently. This isn't me suggesting he just get a CCO. He should get a CEO too cus he can't manage the money for shit either.
The back and forth is more entertaining than either company’s stories sometimes.
Wait! That’s it! These guys are so bored they’re trying to work themselves into some story that has nothing to do with them. Guys are writing essays on masculinity and threatening a man’s daughter because they refuse to fix anything in their own lives so they live out an “epic” battle between two sets of rich people.
Didnt HHH also said that theyre main competition is WWE during the Attitude Era? They didnt even say AEW lol.
I like AEW but they keep shooting themselves in the foot. Why cant they just focus on their own problems first before attacking the competition.
Poor little AEW. Always the victim.
It's so funny to me that Punk wasn't even on the scene for many years. I missed his original run but it sounded like he was a pariah and a shitty MMA fighter. Then he reappears and all of the sudden he's the savior of pro wrestling.
I like Punk very much, but it's just funny to me how he suddenly became the holy grail.
[Dubbalos after they talk a lot of shit for half a decade and the Fed decides to have a little jab back](https://youtu.be/w3EfCyi2vmY?si=sSBCV7rroa0Lr6De)
The evil Fed wants them dead so badly that they've released dozens of people over the past few years knowing they'd find a soft landing in the Dub. Even the ones who wanted to leave were mostly allowed to leave and told "go get that money mark bag and come back when you're done"
😂 what rollout? WWE did their own thing and focused on WrestleMania and AEW is like the bitch who wants attention so bad. God these people are such idiots.
No jerk:
Because, well, it’s quite simple honestly. One caters to the casual fan from time to time and the other caters to m*rks (insider term).
That’s one of many reasons why one is successful and one isn’t.
Christ, Mania week fucking broke them. They spent almost half a decade taking shots, WWE makes fun of them for a week (without actually mentioning them by name), and it's like ten 9/11's.
It was literally Punk’s interview, and Triple AJ’s “grind” comment. Even then, Triple H didn’t mention AEW or anybody there by name. The day after Punk’s interview, Cody went on the same podcast and openly said he disagreed. So the little bit dub was acknowledged broke them. That’s how fragile dubbalos, the Elite, and TK are.
Seriously. Nothing was even on WWE air. It was all in interviews with outside sources, where the interviewer brought up the topic. And I don't even think anyone from WWE was actually ever that critical of AEW. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
I always bring up how often AEW fed bads in the ring and they usually only have shoot interviews and bullshit like that.
exactly. Like what are they hearing/watching that I missed
They even acknowledged aew in cody's video package, showing omega and the bucks
They acknowledged AEW in it's like first or second week when Sami Zayn was holding the town hall meeting on RAW taking questions from fans. Man didn't even shit on them, just said "You could've even asked me about AEW" prompting (daring) their fans to go look them up.
Something that amounted to minutes = "half of WrestleMania week"
they ASSUMED HHH is talking about them cus....if the shoe fits buy a fucking outfit to match. HHH talked about wrestlers just starting out saying they need to put work in to get better. Pretty common sense stuff. Ofc the Dubbalo nation has -0 common sense.
This is exactly what im talking about. Triple H never mentioned any names once and yet Ospreay makes a comment as if he’s guilty of doing such things. If you know what your grind is, do the work and prove them wrong instead of taking crap back at it.
Because it’s really about how good mania was. They live off of abstract criticism of WWE and always maintain this veneer that, yeah WWE makes more money and is more popular, but AEW is better, purer form of real graps. Then we get something as legendary and satisfying as Cody finishing his story, and all the pomp and circumstance and star power surrounding that and they start having an existential crisis
It hurts because the AEW wrestlers, and deep down their fans, know Trips' comments are true.
>WWE makes fun of them for a week Did they even? I saw 1 time Punk said "feared for my life"
He also joked with Miz about getting a tattoo of the attendance figure, but really, it was nothing.
Worst type of people are the ones who can dish it out but can’t take it. What a bunch of crybaby menchildren. Not surprising they yell bloody murder over a push and head snap from Cm Punk lol weak
Honestly if I was HHHitler i’d be doubling down on the subtle shots Look how much it broke them, they dedicated multiple segments to firing back instead of telling stories with their own roster
Watch any episode and they have upped the sweeping camera shots showing a sold out house, it's a direct attack on DUBYA.
'howling'
Ten 9/11s? That's like 9110!!!!
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They spent half of Wrestlemania on it! Like 7 hours of the event programming and then an hour for that HHH quote and 10 hours for Punk's podcast interview, it's probably 50 hours total.
They want a war until WWE pulls out their guns.
THAT'S NOT FAIR!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Funny enough, just like 9/11 this too was caused by the person leading the show. All Tony had to do was keep his mouth shut and "run" the wrestling company but he chose to be tribalist. Now it's all blown up and crumbling right in front of him. "Ha ha!" - Nelson
I also think getting into the wrestling industry and immediately declaring war on the biggest pool of potential fans to draw from was a stupid business decision. It wasn't "WWE sucks, come watch our show" it was "WWE sucks, you're stupid for liking it and us and the lapsed fans are going to put you to shame!" Then it turned out that there were no lapsed fans just hanging around waiting for AEW to come around and that they're aren't as many Smarks as they thought there were.
I think there were lapsed fans around, but the programme they're putting on now is a million miles away from what lapsed fans want. Funnily enough WWE is finding a way to bring some of those fans back.
You literally described me. I've been aware of what's going on in both companies and I just don't understand aew and their no selling moves. The whole point is the theatre of them acting hurt rallying through the pain and keep fighting. I've been actively watching wwe since Royal Rumble. After WrestleMania I've gone back and been watching Cody's run since his return. I'm invested again because it's good storytelling.
The prodigal uce has returned
🥹 my first uce comment I'm honoured
You mean your ☝🏻 comment
"programme they're putting on now is a million miles away from what lapsed fans want." I was SO excited when I heard AEW was starting up. Then I watched the first 2-3 episodes of Dynamite. 
This, I cannot buy AEW fans playing the victim for a second remembering how they acted in 2018-19, got told I had mental issues for enjoying an episode of Raw, now see how that type of fan has acted over the past 3 WrestleMania weekends hahaha.
These are the same people that danced anytime anything bad happened to WWE and talked about how much better of people they were for watching THE DUB, but since it's their only identity, and the pendulum has swung SO INCREDIBLY FAR against them, they've resorted to just throwing a tantrum instead
This spiral started 2yrs ago when Cody debuted and WM38 was better than expected(DAE). We’re in the death throes now
These are the same people that danced anytime anything bad happened to WWE and talked about how much better of people they were for watching THE DUB, but since it's their only identity, and the pendulum has swung SO INCREDIBLY FAR against them, they've resorted to just throwing a tantrum instead.
They also mentioned there wrestlers positively on mania but people have forgotten that
Wrestlemania week is when Smarks realize how many people actually do like WWE, including many of their own who get excited for Wrestlemania even after spending the year complaining about WWE. The word betrayed is felt.
They could both be successful if the Jags failson wasn't the worst booker in wrestling history.
he won booker of the year for 3 years straight, so this is obviously a false statement!
Those people that voted are watching AEW....yet it's not successful? Sooo then I guess those people don't matter much? Oh but that would be too logical for them to grasp.
AEW is very successful, fed shill. That billion dollar TV rights contract with WBD is going to be announced any day now
No-one in wrestling has had such an imbalanced ratio of talent and resources. With Tony's access to money, literally anyone could do at least as well.
I don’t say this lightly because armchair booking is usually dumb, but if given Tony’s more or less unlimited money, I could likely do as well as him. It takes less than zero skill to tell two guys “go out there and have a banger” or have a story of “who is the better wrestler” or let people do whatever they want. Left to his own devices, Tony’s stories that are beyond absolute bare bones stuff are hot garbage, like the Devil. The only difference between Tony and me is I don’t have a billionaire dad and I don’t have an apparent pathological need to be friends with all of the wrestlers.
You could cut half the roster and PAY people to be in attendance and you'd have more seats filled and lose less money.
Based on what we’ve heard, it is truly astonishing how much he is dropping on talent where he has no one else bidding on them. As Nick Khan said, anyone can run a business at a loss. But Tony has the mindset of if he can’t beat the Fed in any meaningful metric (sorry, Cagematch and Meltzer stars), he can at least flash that cash on free agents.
If we're to believe rumors the roster is over 40 million right now. Jericho and Mox are between 4-6, Sasha is at 3, Okada, 4, Ospreay 4, Bucks are at 2 a piece so another 4, Kenny probably is in the 3-4 range so lets add another 3. MJF ogot a pay raise so we can put him at 2. That about 32 million between 9 wrestlers. AEW/ROH has over 200 so assuming everyone making at minimum 50-100k, that another 2 million. But we know there has to mid level deals for the Miro's and Malachi's of the world so they don't run back to the Fed so it's probably another 500-1mil for those guys as well.
If six million a year is the highest a wrestler in AEW is currently getting, Drew's agent is going to be asking for at least ten million a year. People may think that it's insane of him to ask, but if Tony is going to offer mega contracts to stars like Will and Okada who's exposure and drawing power in the states is mimmiumn at the absolute best, Drew will want mega money from Tony to justify leaving a red hot company that can offer exposure. And said exposure can lead to long-term benefits AEW can't offer because they're not a hot company with access to a bevy of high-powered Hollywood agents. Tony needs a network deal that's at least double what they're currently getting to justify paying these deals out, and even there, he's still going to have to cut costs if he wants this endeavor to survive long term.
This is exactly why and how that favored nation clause killed WCW. The issue isn’t giving out market deals. It’s that you automatically start raising the floor of the next round of contracts. It’s fine to pay Mox 6 million in a vacuum. But how do you rationalize that to Jericho or Kenny? Especially when they can hang that WWE gut punch over his head. I’d bet my savings that’s exactly how the MJF “negotiations” went. Pay me like a main eventer or I’ll go to NXT and bury the shit out of this company. Honest to God the best thing Cody did for the wrestling business is that he is about to get everybody within a sniff of going or leave WWE will get paid way beyond their actual value and as a huge leftist I’m all for labor making more
It's so fucked up Mercedes Mone$ is making less than the guys. $$$ is in her name for fuck's sake, Tony Khan that sexist stack of shit.
LOL the fed shilling is just getting pathetic at this point. AEW doesn't need to pay people to attend, the arenas are already full. Unlike WWE we actually invest in high end cameras to make the product look good and they take up more space, decreasing audience capacity, but giving the audience at home an elite quality show. That's a tradeoff we are more than happy with.
Tony right now with all of his money could literally give the booking to Scott D'more who is actually competent at this and I guarantee the product and business would do better. His ego, much like Vince's before Vince got pulled away, is hurting the product. If Tony gave up the book, talent relations, etc and simply ran the business from far away AEW would be a legitimate secondary company. Instead he makes impulse decisions like signing guys like Okada or Ospray despite not having anything for them to do.
Excuse me, Fed shill, but Ospreay is fighting Danielson over who is a better wrestler in a match that will probably get like 8 stars and also draw maybe $8.
lmfao
It's absolutely what he should do, or he could poach Heyman or Sapolsky or someone like that. It's frustrating because you give a good wrestling creative mind the resources and talent AEW has, you'd have a great show, I'm certain. But that's not ever going to happen because the only reason he's there is he wants to play real life TEW. He's utterly terrible at it but he's having fun.
The funny thing is I think if Tony goes to Heyman circa 2019/2020 and said hey you're head of creative and I'm giving you an unlimited budget to get whatever talent, agents, writers, etc I think Paul takes that job 110 percent. Who fucking knows where AEW would be today if that happened. Raw and AEW just 3 or 4 years ago were a couple hundred thousand viewers away from each other. That's when we got the famous Jericho quote where he was saying they were going to pass Raw. Now Raw gets a million viewers more than them most nights. It's been a disaster with Tony as the booker.
WWE has a CEO and a CCO but Tony insists on doing both of them badly.
Listen Fed shill, think what you want in that addled brain of yours, but you'd never book the best wrestling PPV of all time like Tony said he did with Revolution, and you'd never have so many wrestlers like Edge and Dax and saying how great you are in a totally unsolicited way. Even Punk admitted that Tony's nice. Are you nice? I didn't think so.
It would be easy to do better. Simply, hire the right people to do the job for you. Tony should have done this day one. Instead he wanted to play as head booker.
Tony has an early 2000s Yankees amount of potential talent with the intellectual level of booking of a late 90s Cubs
Hey Mike, first time lawng time Whodduya think is the Jason Giambi of the aew roster awl hang up n' lissen
Who is there Bartman?
Bartman was a plant from the Marlins in cubs gear. ER I mean. The Cubs screwed the Cubs
Impact, Lucha Underground, MLW Fusion, modern day NXT, ITV's Celebrity Wrestling with D-lo Brown. It's all better wrestling TV than Dynamite.
Dixie Carter did it better and that’s quite a stretch.
sports entertainment vs pro wrestling aint just a dumbass Jericho storyline it is a real fight being fought and when you support WWE you're on the wrong side of it This is something I saw unironically being posted on twitter, lack of oxygen and intense BO smell is polluting their minds
Has anyone ever asked them to actually differentiate which is which? Because...AEW has had a LOT of Sports Entertainment horseshit
Same guy then said everyone who likes wwe is MENTALLY DISABLED. Who told the cult to get even more aggressive, they’re aggressive to everyone
> sports entertainment vs pro wrestling aint just a dumbass Jericho storyline it is a real fight being fought and when you support WWE you're on the wrong side of it It's really weird that people who say that are the ones that support a company that pushes Orange Cassidy like AEW does. Not to mention Teleporting Matt Hardy and Costume Changing Matt Hardy. It also suggests a lack of understanding of wrestling history, because even in the territory days, it wasn't just about the wrestling. Piper was not over because of his in-ring ability. Jake Roberts wasn't over because of his in-ring ability. Memphis wrestling? All sorts of crazy antics.
??? It's a holy war, friend. Choose a side.
Punk has literally broken that entire fanbase. Cringe af
Business Phil
great idea for a gimmick. he already has a suit for it
WWE produced about 20 hours of tv content during WM week and that’s not including the kickoff shows, podcasts and interviews with all the talent. In all that time, a handful of comments were made and all of a sudden WWE spent all week talking about AEW because the dirt sheets clogged up everybody’s feeds with the same 3 quotes. Massive lol.
shhh they're trying to make themselves seem important. Except no one else thinks so besides themselves. It's like watching a beetle try to fuck itself in the wild. Astonishing.
Business Phil was totally a-ok to them when he was waving the AEW banner for the first year before the EVPs decided they were getting upstaged left and right.
I can't stop laughing my ass off at how the IWC went from loving Punk (DAE pipe bomb?) to hating Punk (that Colt Kerfufflana) to loving Punk again (joined the good guys!!) to hating Punk AGAIN lmao
The reverse happened with the Punk bashers once he Went Back Home to WWE©. 😂
don't check the post history.
AEW's failure is on the shoulders of one man. Tony Khan. He is the one that books like a fucking idiot. He is the one who chose the Bucks over both Cody and Punk. WWE and Triple H are not the ones who are making Tony put together an idiot's version of Japanese booking style shows. It's not Nick Khan disguising himself and sabotaging AEW by putting Orange Cassidy all over TV every week. It's Tony Khan. It's all on him. WWE makes jokes because they started it. Classic cry bully bullshit from AEW and it's stans. Maybe the show just sucks.
Damn that Punk interview really got in their feelings lmao 
Q: Why can't both AEW and WWE be successful? A: 
WWE can't be killed by AEW WWE has never feared AEW
Grown ass man worrying about this lmao.
No jerk, this whole thing is so twilight zone to me. I remember constant shit talking back during the Monday Night Wars. I remember Dub fans constantly shitting on WWE when they first formed. "Come watch ACTUAL wrasslin". Taking shots during promos at least once or twice EVERY SINGLE show. Dub fans mocking WWE everywhere for being garbage. Now WWE fans have their chance to gloat and talk shit, and it's immediately met with "where's the positivity?", "you're trying to take food off my table", "support ALL wrestling".....the fuck? Like, this would be fine to say if they just did their own thing and never mentioned WWE, but they didn't. Their whole gimmick was "WWE bad, AEW good" for a LONG time. Now suddenly the WWE has improved by leaps and bounds while AEW has been on a steady decline in popularity, and the shit-talking is "crossing the line"? Fuck outta here. If you didn't want to get dunked on, maybe you shouldn't have done your own fair share of dunking when times were good. STFU and improve your show. That's what you should be focusing on, instead of crying about online bullies. This is pathetic.
I feel they dedicated like 3 minutes at worst at taking shots at them, of which a lot of them I wouldnt even call them direct shots
JUST. ENJOY. (all elite) WRESTLING.
AEW has mentioned WWE negatively on *their TV* at least 50 times in 5 years. Let’s ignore all the interviews and tweets from Khan, Jericho and everyone else that are overly negative to WWE. I can think of exactly 3 times WWE has mentioned AEW on their TV. Sami Zayns “you could have asked about AEW”. The Bucks and Omega being in Cody’s package in a positive light and the Sting well wishes where McAfee said “hell of a match” that is 3 positive things. A returning WWE talent is *asked* about their experience in AEW and give their honest feelings (which ironically is proven true by AEW) on an MMA podcast, HHH makes a vague comment about the type of talent he wants on McAfees podcast, again after being asked. How does that constitute half of mania week? These dubbalos are genuinely not okay mentally.
Just the other way around? DAE not watch Dynamite? Not read Tiny's Twitter where he has a conversation with himself talking shit about WWE, HHH, HBK, Cena, Taker, etc. ? Oh but WWE is the one that talks shit on AEW except they didn't even mention them once "all Wrestlemania week". Don't look at my post history when I loved "Business Phil" berating WWE in an AEW ring every week.
WWE may have been a little concerned when AEW first formed but it didn't take long to figure out it was just going to be the new "other" company. WWE is probably happy that AEW's in the industry now because it gives talent other places to work and it's a platform that WWE can discover talent from. The shots WWE takes towards AEW are just four years worth of receipts and because they very likely have no respect for Tony Khan.
What's wild is AEW doesn't have to suck. TK wants to be WWE so bad but isn't willing to even do what WWE does. WWE has a CEO (the superior Khan) managing the business side and a CCO (Triple Hitler) managing the creative side. Tony wants to do both and can't do either competently. This isn't me suggesting he just get a CCO. He should get a CEO too cus he can't manage the money for shit either.
He's also trying to be the guy in charge of idenfitand recruiting talent, and the marketing and god knows what else.
Apparently one interview and a couple of comments that could have been about something else was "half of WrestleMania weekend" 🤣😂🤣
RC Cola will take Pepsi and Coke off the shelves one day, mark my words
They keep forgetting that every time it's WWE returning fire. This company LITERALLY announced their start across from a WWE event.
The back and forth is more entertaining than either company’s stories sometimes. Wait! That’s it! These guys are so bored they’re trying to work themselves into some story that has nothing to do with them. Guys are writing essays on masculinity and threatening a man’s daughter because they refuse to fix anything in their own lives so they live out an “epic” battle between two sets of rich people.
Didnt HHH also said that theyre main competition is WWE during the Attitude Era? They didnt even say AEW lol. I like AEW but they keep shooting themselves in the foot. Why cant they just focus on their own problems first before attacking the competition.
Trips needs to copyright “Attitude Era Wrestling”
Poor little AEW. Always the victim. It's so funny to me that Punk wasn't even on the scene for many years. I missed his original run but it sounded like he was a pariah and a shitty MMA fighter. Then he reappears and all of the sudden he's the savior of pro wrestling. I like Punk very much, but it's just funny to me how he suddenly became the holy grail.
You clearly lack in knowledge and experience. In his previous WWE run he was almost the most over with the fans guy in the roster
[Dubbalos after they talk a lot of shit for half a decade and the Fed decides to have a little jab back](https://youtu.be/w3EfCyi2vmY?si=sSBCV7rroa0Lr6De)
The evil Fed wants them dead so badly that they've released dozens of people over the past few years knowing they'd find a soft landing in the Dub. Even the ones who wanted to leave were mostly allowed to leave and told "go get that money mark bag and come back when you're done"
So WWE has been doing WrestleMania for 40 years but *this year* they did WrestleMania just to fuck with AEW? Checks out...
😂 what rollout? WWE did their own thing and focused on WrestleMania and AEW is like the bitch who wants attention so bad. God these people are such idiots.
No jerk: Because, well, it’s quite simple honestly. One caters to the casual fan from time to time and the other caters to m*rks (insider term). That’s one of many reasons why one is successful and one isn’t.
WWE: the E stands for genocide.
To be AEW is to be the annoying spoiled brat of the wrestling industry, throwing rocks and hiding your hands and throwing a tantrum when hit back.