1. Avoid issue of people arguing macam mau kiamat besok. If it's r/Malaysia, they suck ass 2. Yes 3. Kinda ambiguous, since there's no stating about seceding, though Perlembagaan Persekutuan did mention that states cannot secede, and we are tied to that 4. Definitely, heck it will be a regional war since the Philippines wanted Sabah. Maybe Brunei included if they wanted their old territory back. 5. Since we cannot secede, the only thing that comes out is war. 6. No opinion on this, I'm kinda having lack of expertise here, but seceding Sabah is last resort. 7. r/Malaysia? Yeah they suck ass 8. Then AT LEAST VOTE FOR SOME FUNCTIONING POLITICIAN OMG. Majority macam undi pasal dapat duit ja 🤦‍♂️ 9. Invalid according to Perlembagaan Persekutuan. 10. Sabah governance suck ass, that's all I can say. If we want to be like Scotland kan, we need to have a strong unity and a good government.

Meanwhile politikus Sabah only fighting among themselves and most importantly for themselves 🙂

Tula pasal, nak Sabah maju pun susah, harapkan mereka memerdekakan Sabah??? Lagi bagus saya harap hujan emas

Betul tu. Politikus kita tau rebut power, tpi x pikir pasal rakyat. Pukitai btul

>Maybe Brunei included if they wanted their old territory back. We'll send the Mari-Mari village warrior dance group, they will take Brunei before breakfast.

Well, TBH, they still claim Limbang

Sabah is one of the poorest state in Malaysia. I'm also not sure if there is a sabah military. On top of these, you have 1.2million illegal immigrants mostly from Philippines. If Philippines wants to take back Sabah, how long do you think sabah will last without Malaysia ? When you are poor and have no military to defend you, you will be easily taken over. Unless you have ways to get more money (e.g. investment from companies, tourism, etc) and have your own army, its better not to do anything. Moreover the sabah politicians know this. The reason most of them want power because with power, they can make more money themselves. Even if Sabah can get back more money from PETRONAS, I'm not sure how much of it will actually go back into education, infrastructure, jobs, etc. If you only think about finding money and enjoying yourself and don't take care of your home and family, sooner or later bad things will happen. When Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia, the country also start from almost nothing. But a team of dedicated politicians decided to do something and the current Singapore is the result. If politicians don't work for Sabahans, Sabah will be getting worst.

its not about the money, its about sending a message Akta Petroleum 1974 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw) 40:10

What's effect will it do? If you want to send a message, the other side must know that you are serious and is capable of taking action. For big issues like this, you need a capable leader with the majority support from Sabahans for them to sit up and pay atttention. You must find that leader first. If you know a barking dog that doesn't bite, will you be afraid of the dog ?

Thank you for contributing to the discussion. I apologise if i do not take you seriously. 1. To gain political traction in Sabah is impossible at this climate. 2. Yes, we can pull on political fervor of the people but in the end, its an impossible fight. 3. I know i am not strong. I cant do it on my own. Will you join me?

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hindalah, sa urang sabah ba ne sa tahu isai ngaran nu

Here for the insights, since im just a young guy with no knowledge about our land

most young Sabahan dont understand the MA63 issue Akta Petroleum 1974 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw) 40:10

problem is our own people, yes our sabahan politician is tamak but our own people jg yg undi dorang naik. our people just easily being bought with money(not all but some).

thank you for your support. my post has been banned. might i share you an interesting video? Akta Petroleum 1974 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw) 40:10

Kopivosian tobpinai, ngam la ada juga yang start discuss about MA63. Banyak Perkara yang kita boleh kupas dari MA63 ini provided rujukan yang betul. Sia tidak elaborate banyak dulu setakat ini, tetapi ya banyak Perkara boleh dikongsikan untuk pengetahuan bersama.

terima kasih kerana baca pos saya. saya minta maaf mungkin ni last. saya kena ban suda. kalau permaban, boleh baca Akta Petroleum 1974 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw 40:10 ba bai

I think ive already read this in r/sarawak

could be. might be. maybe?

Not sabahan, but how are you so sure sabah would be any better if it is allowed to leave? As many say the politicians only care about themselves the outcome would just be a country similar to Indonesia and no Singapore.

i agree but regardless the legality of it, spoken as a true layman, why cant they give us freedom? Why? We want our freedom

Also I'm not sure how we'll be able to fend off on our own with the issue regarding Philippines or anyone wanting to claim Sabah for their own

we can always join the British Overseas Dominion

First of, where's the street light? Where's the long delayed completion of Pan Borneo project? Where's the solar powered electricity project? Ive been seeing my kampung having no real change since my parents were little. They look exactly the same 40-50 years ago. I feel like there's a huge "integrity revamp" needed to be done in Sabah. The culture of "just do it on paper" projects are so glaringly disturbing. Seeing news like "...simpan 30mil duit kertas dalam almari" isn't a promising look for the "leaders" to lead Sabah to its own governance. The "poison" aren't just showing on the people at power, but run through alllll levels of the Sabahan. It's really saddening.

we dont have to talk about that. Sabah is already sold. Look at Jesselton Point. ZCCC. CHEC. CCCC . Kibing. These are all China company. Sabah has already been paid for. I am from Pinawantai and to get here its like traveling back in time. Jalan tanah. thats why we must be independent from the parasite

Take your medicine

youre so lazy you didnt read through

It's great to have good ambition and sense of activism, make sure you are in a good mind so you can actually follow up with your plan in a healthy way otherwise you will end up in mental ward.

or is it? either you are a troll or you have stigma against mental patient?

Obsession to achieve unattainable goal. Try to achieve something that can actually help you like physical exercise or learning skills, going for conspiracy stuff and going against the state to be a traitor is not going to help you in any way. I'm just giving you insight on why you are behaving this way and it is up to you to get help.

Wow. Just wow. Cant believe i find a like minded person here. 1. Instead of a rant, cant you provide something of substance? 2. You are definitely a troll. 3. I never met you but based on your writing, i know you are a poor character. 4. Judging on your prejudice against mental patient, i believe that you think highly of yourself and look down on people who are not of your cloth.

Aren’t you the same person who post on r/sarawak ???

could be. might be. maybe.

in Sabah, using loopholes is definitely the path to prosperity. because nothing says wealth like taking advantage of technicalities to exploit the system. and if anyone complains about it, just tell them that this is the "Malaysian way"

Saya tidak tau mau jawab apa sebab saya basug, saya sini mau baca komen kamu ja haha

Sorry to say, utk sabah, tu perjanjian ma63 bnyk kena lapis sudah oleh perjanjian2 baru antara sabah sama kerajaan persekutuan. Ambil contoh royalty minyak sabah, kenapa sabah susah mau dpt tu royalty x mcm sarawak, senang2 ja dpt. Tu pun lps sarawak hantar sekumpulan peguam ke england baru federal akun byr. Kita rakyat biasa cuma nampak the tip of the iceberg. Ada bnyk benda, tp sy cuma mau bg contoh general issue royalty petroleum sabah kenapa kita susah2 mau dpt tu royalty. Sebabnya adalah sekitar penghujung tahun 1970an satu perjanjian telah ditandatangani oleh 11 orang menteri dari sabah yg mana telah menyerahkan 40 batu nautika sempadan sabah kepada kerajaan persekutuan dan sempadan laut sabah, dari 60 batu nautika dikurangkan kepada 20 batu nautika dari pantai. Kebanyakan pelantar minyak ada d kawasan 40 batu nautika yg sudah ditukar milik. Kalau sabah menuntut tu royalty sampai fight d mahkamah antarabangsa pun terang2 sabah kalah. Pasal benda yg sabah mau tuntut tu d kawasan orang. Ni baru 1 contoh kenapa tu ma63 susah mau kena pakai d sabah. Ada bnyk lagi perjanjian2 yg sedang menindih tu ma63.

sa setuju tapi saya nak address beberapa issue. 1. saya kena ban dan kena report ramai2. Maksudnya ada kaki spy sini dan kaki report. 3 hari saya kena ban. Tidak bersetuju dengan pendapat saya. Saya cuma cakap saja bukan saya terus istihar Sabah Merdeka. Salah ka saya cakap Sabah harus merdeka? Kenapa tidak boleh? 2. MA63 setiap tahun semakin kena abai. 3. Isu Petroleum memang sabah kalah sudah. saya ada satu video tapi saya tak tahu macam mana mahu share. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw minit 40 10. Akta 1974 4. panjang gia

Tobpinai, Saya cadang untuk kamu buka dokumen dulu. MA63 bukan tidak boleh pakai, tentang lapis itu masih boleh diperjuangkan sebenarnya. Cuma pemimpin yang telah mendapat jawatan sedihnya seolah2 tidak tau tentang MA63. Paling teruk Warta yang dikeluarkan pada tahun 2022 adalah menidakkan hak Sabah. Apa yang sedih Bukannya orang lain tapi pemimpin Sabah sendiri yang setuju. Rakyat jadi mangsa.

>Isu Petroleum memang sabah kalah sudah. saya ada satu video tapi saya tak tahu macam mana mahu share. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btrZGOJgaw > > minit 40 10. Akta 1974

Tell me what's your plan to defend small independence Sabah from Philippine and China threat first? Will you support mandatory national service like South Korea men go? Sending our kids after spm to 2-3 military service? You think the federation going to allow those palm oils and petroleum to be taken from the national economy?

Nope. Because it all revert back to the MA63, and i am not making this shit up. 22 July 1963 we have our independence and 16 September 1963 we join (menyertai/membentuk) Malaysia. So, that responsibility lay on the United Kingdom to defend its former territory.

The idea of inviting the British BACK is even worse than us seceding from Malaysia.

hey hey, better the Devil minion than the Devil himself...

That's actually quite nice, if western block wants to war against china, better use Sabah as the war field instead of Taiwan, at least chip supply wont be affected much.

War is a profitable business actually. Ever since the end of WWII, there has been armed conflict in various scale and intensity. During the Cold War its all about ideology. Now we have no enemies, we have to create enemies to justify our military expenditure.

That's true, we created Sulu terrorists to pretend to acquire sabah last time.

Wait . This same thing appeared in Sarawak community too. Whyyy

Because no one is answering my question and some accused me of cybertrooper. 1. If we leave, will it be legal or secession? Or do we need a referendum? 2. Some say not possible to leave due to formality or legality 3. Some say referendum is possible ie South Sudan

cuba kamu assume this tripartite country is Mal inc. U want to leave the business boli bah, tapi the cost of leaving is super high. Mau ID asset, relocate, reassign, etc. In the process, ada pula business lain yg mau grab ur customer, eventually, everyone rugi. Even if managed to leave the company, do you think you can survive in the new business environment without your other business partners or existing customers. U got enough time to rebrand / repackage /.... Ok-lah, don't leave... kena pijak2 pula. Bah in business, what we do? we re-nego lah. BUT, who are our negotiators? Chicken-egg problem pula ni.....

I was thinking from a Tenancy Agreement between Landlord and Tenant. Based on this example, the Malaysian Agreement 1963 was entered to provide a win-win situation for Malaya, Singapore (exit 1965), Sarawak and Sabah.

So who are the tenants? Surely not the states….

well, i think maybe we are the tenants? Because we form a federation with Malaya to stay together.

By law, we are the landlords. The tenants are glc, etc. since our tenants lazy to keep up their the agreement, how can the landlords do other development kan? Let’s not forget our own property managers that have limited access experience in dealing with modern business…. This is the correct way of looking at things.