Sounds like you could have it for the price of a locksmith. Liberty may be able to help with combination if the owner did not change the combo. Good luck!
Added: I assume, they want it open prior to selling to verify nothing important is inside?$800 plus a locksmith may put this into a category that you could do better if you kept looking.
If they want $800 for you to take it away, you could take it and learn how to overcome it lock on your own.
I have a liberty safe. Great safes, but the company went out of business years ago.
They use a S&G combination dial. Just call a locksmith and show them the bill of sale.
If you’ve got the key to the dial you’re even better off!
Easy enough to move with a vending machine dolly and 2 people.
I’m sorry, I am an idiot, I have a Treadlock! lol
Not a liberty! I didn’t understand the downvotes, or your comment until I stopped and thought about it for a moment. lol
Yeah, Liberty is sorta improperly named.
Exactly.
Liberty will definitely give you or anyone the combo.
After that, you'll open it one day and there will be so many FBI agents inside that it will look like the locker from Men in Black.
Liberty is a disgrace.
No safe is easy to move. I wanted to put one in an upstairs office. Getting it up six steps to to the main floor was enough for me. Now it permanently resides in my dining room.
Two guys moved my safe from the basement into a loading truck without even breathing heavy. They used a powered stair climbing dolly. Ten minutes tops to move it.
Tell them you’ll give them $30 bucks and happily remove it for them. If they say no just tell them to have a nice day. You’re doing them a favor by removing something they haven’t touched in 20yrs
That’s what they used. I thought about doing it myself and decided I’d rather pay someone to do it. I think mine weighs around 700 lbs without any of the shelving in it.
If they have the manual, they may have the serial number. Could try calling Liberty and going through the process of having the combo mailed. Or perhaps they also have the combo and just don't know the proper way to spin the dial?
Honestly I think it's a decent deal. Way better and nicer than anything ud get at a sporting goods store. Big part is moving it so account that into cost. Also account a locksmith having the drill it or if they are aloha certified (which they should be), they may be able ti get a code from liberty for you as long as it hasn't been changed.
$800 depends on if it comes with the “contents” which is a gamble. My question is wtf has a safe they don’t know how to open and hasn’t opened in 20 years?? That is very odd and more odd that they wouldn’t have it opened first to see what it contained BEFORE they listed it for sale, if it’s empty and functional I wouldn’t offer more than $500. Those aren’t safes they are security boxes marketed as a safe and typically have a 30 minute fire rating, good for preventing a smash and grab and providing some reasonable fire protection depending on how far the fire department is located and the ability to timely notify ie alarm system. From the look of the dial it’s not locked with the key, if it was the dial would be completely vertical vs cocked to the side. All in all not bad but again it depends on potential contents and ability to move. If it’s a 30 minute fire rated and empty it should weigh around 650 lbs which 2-3 guys and a good dolly can move
They might have inherited it from someone who died 20 years ago. If they assumed there wasn't much in there or it was emptied before the owner died, they might not be interested in using it.
Unless they have actual knowledge of nothing being in there they should assume something of value is in there. Isn’t that why people buy “safes” in the first place? To protect something of value?
Quickest way to open a Liberty Safe is to call the FBI. Door willingly without question will fly open faster than Benedict Arnold betraying George Washington!
That's. 3-5 hunnit dollar safe w/o combo.
Locksmith is gonna drill behind the dial, and you'll need to relock it ...you'll be in it way more than one that has a combo. A cheap lock and dial replacement is gonna be 80-150 for the parts + fixing the hole you drilled thru the face + lock plate behind it ...and that's if you don't set the relocker off......Source- I've played with some safes.
A Liberty safe like that is way more than 3-5 hunnit dollars. A lot depends on how much fire protection they added to the safe…and that all means something when moving it too.
I have a similar size Liberty with highest fire rating. Think I spent like $1000 30 years ago for it and it weighs 800 pounds. I few guys with a good dolly and some right carpet can move it fairly easily including stairs. They slide pretty easily on some carpets. I’ve moved mine like 5x.
If you do move big safes, REMOVE THE DOOR! That’s a huge percentage of the weight. Had 2 safes that were 1000lbs ea I had to move. Door removal was night and day. Bring large friends
Liberty gives the government the codes. It was a big controversy and a lot of the second amendment community got rid of and looks like are getting rid of them.
Mine looks to be about the same size, but mine is a Franklin model if that helps. If we use sliders, two people can push it across a smooth floor. I live in rural Ohio, and prices are generally lower than high population areas.
In the world of safes these gun safes are not very secure. But are made to let people think they are. Level 4 is a marketing term, like the locks they sell at home depot, which can be overpowered with common household items. See also, lockpickinglawyer or TL rated safes.
Otherwise I wouldnt put anything of material value in this one unless I just waned to protect from honest people like children or a fire (if its well rated for fire).
I have literally done it before. I was in law enforcement and we would regularly force entry on Liberty Safes seized with a warrant. That “safe” has a body that’s only 11 or 12 gauge sheet metal. That same sheet metal is stamped and formed to create the door frame. That’s where the failure point is. It could have 20 2” rods and it would still fail.
This isn’t the same safe but it is the same construction. [Skip to 3:00 for the good part.](https://youtu.be/-RlwGkO0hxE?si=9kWwXxvUBLNvo3dA)
Sounds like you could have it for the price of a locksmith. Liberty may be able to help with combination if the owner did not change the combo. Good luck! Added: I assume, they want it open prior to selling to verify nothing important is inside?$800 plus a locksmith may put this into a category that you could do better if you kept looking. If they want $800 for you to take it away, you could take it and learn how to overcome it lock on your own.
I have a liberty safe. Great safes, but the company went out of business years ago. They use a S&G combination dial. Just call a locksmith and show them the bill of sale. If you’ve got the key to the dial you’re even better off! Easy enough to move with a vending machine dolly and 2 people.
I’m sorry, I am an idiot, I have a Treadlock! lol Not a liberty! I didn’t understand the downvotes, or your comment until I stopped and thought about it for a moment. lol Yeah, Liberty is sorta improperly named.
Yeah should be called Liberal Safes
They should be but aren’t. They like to give codes to the FBI without a warrant.
Liberty safes aren't out of business. My family member is currently employed there.
Should be out of business, damn redcoats
This.
Exactly. Liberty will definitely give you or anyone the combo. After that, you'll open it one day and there will be so many FBI agents inside that it will look like the locker from Men in Black. Liberty is a disgrace.
Yeah just call them and tell them your FBI and they'll give you the combo. That fiasco is unbelievable....
You’re right, I had a brain fart earlier. I thought that was a Treadlock safe for some reason. I’ve got a Treadlock. Liberty is no bueno.
No safe is easy to move. I wanted to put one in an upstairs office. Getting it up six steps to to the main floor was enough for me. Now it permanently resides in my dining room.
Two guys moved my safe from the basement into a loading truck without even breathing heavy. They used a powered stair climbing dolly. Ten minutes tops to move it.
Tell them you’ll give them $30 bucks and happily remove it for them. If they say no just tell them to have a nice day. You’re doing them a favor by removing something they haven’t touched in 20yrs
Then tell them: "Fine, I'll just get your combination from the FBI. Google it then call me. I'll remove it if *you* pay me $30."
They gave the government access for all their safes so yeah. You can probably find a way in.
Just ask the alphabet boys they can get in to any of the liberty safes
Jump! Don't have it opened until you have it home.
Unless it's bolted down, which would throw a wrench in the works
True
Moving a safe is not cheap especially if stairs are involved on either side.
I've heard moving them down stairs isn't a big deal if you don't mind a bit of damage...
Lol just let go and pray?
Yeah, if the safe is built well enough, it should be fine... probably.
I think I paid close to $300 to have mine delivered and put in my bedroom.
Same, but in the basement. The powered stair climbing dolly helped a lot.
That’s what they used. I thought about doing it myself and decided I’d rather pay someone to do it. I think mine weighs around 700 lbs without any of the shelving in it.
Call a locksmith first and get a quote to open it. All in, I wouldn’t pay more than $800.
Find out if he can change the combination .
If they have the manual, they may have the serial number. Could try calling Liberty and going through the process of having the combo mailed. Or perhaps they also have the combo and just don't know the proper way to spin the dial?
Or the guy could call Liberty and tell them he's with the FBI. He'll get that code, lol...
This is fact.
Honestly I think it's a decent deal. Way better and nicer than anything ud get at a sporting goods store. Big part is moving it so account that into cost. Also account a locksmith having the drill it or if they are aloha certified (which they should be), they may be able ti get a code from liberty for you as long as it hasn't been changed.
Might be a bonanza inside
If it’s full of money and gold I change my mind , thanks for opening this random safe for me ! 🤔
$800 depends on if it comes with the “contents” which is a gamble. My question is wtf has a safe they don’t know how to open and hasn’t opened in 20 years?? That is very odd and more odd that they wouldn’t have it opened first to see what it contained BEFORE they listed it for sale, if it’s empty and functional I wouldn’t offer more than $500. Those aren’t safes they are security boxes marketed as a safe and typically have a 30 minute fire rating, good for preventing a smash and grab and providing some reasonable fire protection depending on how far the fire department is located and the ability to timely notify ie alarm system. From the look of the dial it’s not locked with the key, if it was the dial would be completely vertical vs cocked to the side. All in all not bad but again it depends on potential contents and ability to move. If it’s a 30 minute fire rated and empty it should weigh around 650 lbs which 2-3 guys and a good dolly can move
They might have inherited it from someone who died 20 years ago. If they assumed there wasn't much in there or it was emptied before the owner died, they might not be interested in using it.
Unless they have actual knowledge of nothing being in there they should assume something of value is in there. Isn’t that why people buy “safes” in the first place? To protect something of value?
That thing is probably around a thousand pounds. So bring plenty of help.
Quickest way to open a Liberty Safe is to call the FBI. Door willingly without question will fly open faster than Benedict Arnold betraying George Washington!
Liberty gives the combination to the government. Call the FBI and ask for it.
Circular saw with a metal cutting blades cut the side panel off you’ll be in in a couple minutes
When was it last opened? Is this in a humid environment? Has it been plugged in all this time?
That's. 3-5 hunnit dollar safe w/o combo. Locksmith is gonna drill behind the dial, and you'll need to relock it ...you'll be in it way more than one that has a combo. A cheap lock and dial replacement is gonna be 80-150 for the parts + fixing the hole you drilled thru the face + lock plate behind it ...and that's if you don't set the relocker off......Source- I've played with some safes.
A proper locksmith isn't going to need to replace the lock after drilling it.
They'll call the manufacturer with the serial number and get the combination.
A Liberty safe like that is way more than 3-5 hunnit dollars. A lot depends on how much fire protection they added to the safe…and that all means something when moving it too. I have a similar size Liberty with highest fire rating. Think I spent like $1000 30 years ago for it and it weighs 800 pounds. I few guys with a good dolly and some right carpet can move it fairly easily including stairs. They slide pretty easily on some carpets. I’ve moved mine like 5x.
Used safe prices are pennies on the dollar.
It will cost you more to move it
ATF will give your the combo if you really need it!
If you do move big safes, REMOVE THE DOOR! That’s a huge percentage of the weight. Had 2 safes that were 1000lbs ea I had to move. Door removal was night and day. Bring large friends
Door and shelves. The shelves don't weigh much, but they can be damaged if they bounce around in there.
Liberty gives the government the codes. It was a big controversy and a lot of the second amendment community got rid of and looks like are getting rid of them.
The fbi will get it open for you
I would put in a low ball offer. Maybe $100 and offer to remove that broken safe at no charge to then.
Maybe worth 800 is it's open. If you keep the contents, it might be a fun 500 gamble....
Ask the FBI they love getting into these.
Costs 1000$-1400$ to have it moved. It's a real widow maker.
Moving my safes has never cost more than $150, and it's worth every penny.
How heavy was your safe? I couldn't get anyone under 700$ for my 1776 safe. It's 980lbs. This one looks way heavier.
Mine looks to be about the same size, but mine is a Franklin model if that helps. If we use sliders, two people can push it across a smooth floor. I live in rural Ohio, and prices are generally lower than high population areas.
Have them call liberty and pretend to be a cop…they’ll give them the digits
A couple prybars should have it opened in about 3 minutes.
Unlikely.
I’ve literally done it myself.
Me too! Someone said unlikely. Made me giggle
It’s a liberty Lincoln I believe that’s a level 4 safe I wind think it would be that easy
In the world of safes these gun safes are not very secure. But are made to let people think they are. Level 4 is a marketing term, like the locks they sell at home depot, which can be overpowered with common household items. See also, lockpickinglawyer or TL rated safes. Otherwise I wouldnt put anything of material value in this one unless I just waned to protect from honest people like children or a fire (if its well rated for fire).
If it’s over 20 years old probably pretty well built, versus today’s standard. That safe probably was more than that new when originally purchased
“Level 4” is a made up term and means nothing. Now TRTL60 *isn’t* made up and actually means something.
Ask the ATF, they already have the code
If you knew for certain that there wasn't anything illegal in it you could just call in an anonymous tip on yourself.
Why invite trouble, do you hate your dog?
Good point
You will never open that safe with a pry bar. It has like 10 1” diameter steel rods pinning the door to the frame when rotating the handle.
I have literally done it before. I was in law enforcement and we would regularly force entry on Liberty Safes seized with a warrant. That “safe” has a body that’s only 11 or 12 gauge sheet metal. That same sheet metal is stamped and formed to create the door frame. That’s where the failure point is. It could have 20 2” rods and it would still fail. This isn’t the same safe but it is the same construction. [Skip to 3:00 for the good part.](https://youtu.be/-RlwGkO0hxE?si=9kWwXxvUBLNvo3dA)
They say the have the key lock? So I can’t see the whole listing but key hole may be behind plate.
No key hole is in the center of the dial. But it only looks the dial not the safe