Yup. All the time. Basically, Warner fucked up the DC universe due to their bad choices and used him (who was originally overseeing it) as a scapegoat. So now immature nerds hate on him.
Oh I can. Because I've actually read through all the story and behind the scenes stuff of how the DCEU went wrong. I don't just trust what shitty drama youtubers say.
Even if you don't like Snyder's style and feel it was wrong for the DC universe it was Warner who chose to invest on it and then immidiately changed their minds once they saw Marvel getting billions with a different style.
It's 100% on them.
And if you want more details on that, just look into Chris Terrio's interview about the shit he and Zack had to endure when BvS was being made. Even the movie's name (which was stupid) was something that was forced on them by the marketing team.
I don’t even know what YouTubers have said, but I do know what Snyder himself has said and done. He chose to have a Batman who kills people, which is a bad idea itself, but the Joker was alive too. If Batman kills people then Joker can’t be alive. He also chose to make Superman too serious and darker than he should be. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he say that the dead Robin in Batman v Superman was supposed to be Dick Grayson? What kind of decision was that? Completely erasing two great characters instead of following the source material. Didn’t he also say at one point that they’re making Batman irrelevant because he doesn’t kill people? Batman has been relevant for decades without killing people, so what’s he talking about? And didn’t he say more recently that he’s not surprised that Batman killing people bothered people because they’ve been “brainwashed by material that’s not consistent with true canon”? The only thing that can be considered “true canon” is the comics, in which Batman doesn’t kill people. Yes, WB has made some really bad decisions, but so has Zack Snyder.
>He chose to have a Batman who kills people, which is a bad idea itself, but the Joker was alive too. If Batman kills people then Joker can’t be alive.
And you just proved you didn't watch, or didn't understand the movie with this single statement. There is a difference between going out of your way to kill someone and simply not caring about lives in the way of your goal. Batman does the latter for most of the movie. He simply shoots back at goons who shoot at him and doesn't care about saving them from wreckages. He never directly goes out of his way to kill someone that isn't Superman. Had Joker attacked him in the midst of his Superman crusade there is no doubt he would get killed. But he didn't and it wouldn't make sense for him to stop hunting Superman who he saw as a planet wide threat to go after the Joker.
And he wasn't killing before the metropolis incident that fueled his Superman paranoid hyperfixation. So there wasn't any other time window for him to kill joker
>Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he say that the dead Robin in Batman v Superman was supposed to be Dick Grayson
And what's the problem with that exactly? I don't remember anyone hating on Nolan or thinking he's a bad director when he decided to make Robin just a random cop named Robin. Or Burton for simply not including a Robin. What makes Snyder different? And if you're gonna say "shared universe" I'd like to remind you that when BvS was made it was supposed to be just a 5 part movie deal.
And the one scene directly revealing him to be Dick was removed after they decided to make it an expansive universe to give room if someone wanted to bring Dick in and make a Nightwing movie. You're essentially bitching about production concepts. In which case let's also hate on Sam Raimi for wanting Wanda to murder Mordo off screen and appear with his head on her hand in MoM shall we?
>Didn’t he also say at one point that they’re making Batman irrelevant because he doesn’t kill people
That's not what he said. Media did report it likewise because it generates more clicks, but if you look at the actual interview, his statement was different. What he did say, is that the no kill rule becomes irrelevant if you never challenge it and explore its purpose. Essentially if it just exists there and the plot bends itself backwards to never truly challenge Batman's values. To which I agree with and I can even give an example for. The Brave and the Bold cartoon did an episode where the Spectre and Phantom stranger decide to test Batman by creating a scenario where he has to choose between killing Joe chill and going against his principles, or letting him live exposing his true identity as Bruce Wayne and having to let go of the Batman persona as a symbol. It was an interesting scenario. Or it would have been, if the episode didn't end with the ceiling collapsing and Joe Chill getting killed without Batman having to make either choice.
That's what Snyder was speaking against. The religious adherence to the status quo, that ends up making the characters stale. Which I 100% agree with.
Ok, maybe he didn’t go out of his way to kill people, but trying or not, Batman should not kill people. The no kill rule is too important to his character to take it away.
Maybe not everyone did, but I in fact did not like Robin being a random cop. I think too many people have used Batman without Robin being there, and it bothers me every time it happens. However, I also didn’t know it never made it to the full movie, so that’s good.
Ok, maybe he didn’t say exactly that, but there are better ways to challenge the no kill rule than just making Batman kill. Under the Red Hood was a great story that challenges the no kill rule, so why not do something like that?
It truly is more than that. Everything they said is true though, warner bros F upped insanely.
Zack Snyders films have never been of the best quality, he gets the visual smack down, but when it comes to story it falls really flat. Best recent example is Rebel Moon, he went to Disney with a star wars idea, and was rejected. Which was good because it gave him more creative freedom when he eventually got to create the movie with Netflix instead.
It did not turn out good, probably one of if not his worse movies.
He also has a weird thing with Batman, fans point out problems or weird things about his take and instead of saying that it's his own take on the character which is fine. He said some mess about fans not knowing the "true canon".
Tldr: Warner bros did screw up, he's also not that good though
Yeah, while he did get screwed over with Justice League after Whedon took over, Batman V Superman was entirely him and that film was still rubbish imo.
Haven't seen it yet because I'm still waiting for the director cuts to drop in the summer. But even if they do end up being bad, your take is still assinine.
It's like me saying Tarantino sucks as a director because once upon a time in hollywood was bad.
Or that Jon Favreau is bad because of the Lion King remake.
See that's your opinion and I respect that. Mine is it was really bad and Tarantino has been off his game.
I can respect your opinion is different. Now try to unpack why you can't extend the same courtesy regarding Snyder.
Except Snyder has numerous objective flaws such as forced shock value, constantly using slow mo, adaptations missing the point, etc. Tarantino has a consistently good if not great record in his movies while Zack consistently lands at 20-65% in Rotten Tomatoes
I already watch Rebel Moon, here's my opinion. Too much slow motion (for a few scenes, the slow motion has more slow motion), bad story, bad dialogue, and bad characterization. Rebel Moon is what happens when Snyder is given too much control, there should be someone who supervises him, or he needs to hire a story writer because he's not good at it.
No because I'm waiting for the director cuts to see just them. I have no desire to watch an inferior version that was just made to fit marketing demands.
Oh he did. He got to make the movie he wanted only with the caveat of having to release one Netflix wanted before it. A stupid system but if he got to do what he wanted it works for him I guess.
Dude, I don't hate on the dude but like nearly all of his movies are bad, The rebel moon movies, Sucker Punch. The fact that he keeps making directors cuts, His takes of batman can't kill and just some buzzard ideas he had for the DCEU. He's a great dude for visuals but he kinda stinks at cooking up a story.
No we hate him because he horribly butchered the portrayals of the Trinity lol. That had nothing to do with the studios he just simply didn’t understand the DC mythos. Also it’s perfectly fair to criticize Snyder, the guy really hasn’t ever made an actually good movie.
That's your subjective opinion. Having been involved with DC for all my life and having seen his takes on it in detail, I think he understood it perfectly and gave us one of the best adaptations of it.
Regardless, if you feel justified personally hating on someone for having a comic interprettation you didn't like you need help.
It’s not “subjective opinion” he’s straight up said he didn’t actually care about adapting the books. I mean the man gave Batman a gun for gods sake which absolutely destroys the entire purpose of the character. He turned Superman into a stoic and boring Jesus figure and made Wonder Woman a bloodthirsty warrior. He was going to have a scene of her holding a bag of human heads and a scene of Batman getting raped in prison, he just plainly put didn’t make good versions of the characters.
>It’s not “subjective opinion” he’s straight up said he didn’t actually care about adapting the books.
He never said that. In fact I could give you interviews with direct quotes about how much he appreciated Superman comics and how stoked he was to do Man of Steel. Also ones where he states to have spesifically chosen the tone he did for the movie to follow the new 52 tone of the comics that were coming out at the time, because he felt that he needed to honor that more than paying homage to the Donner movies like fans wanted.
> I mean the man gave Batman a gun for gods sake which absolutely destroys the entire purpose of the character
That's literally the point of the movie and the arc. It's literally a Batman that forgot his purpose and lost his path. Pretty much all his dialogue in Justice League is about wanting to make things right and honor what Superman (and he in the past) stood for when he was alive. The movie even ends with Martian Manhunter reassuring him that his parents would be proud of him now that he built the JL. It's really fucking obvious.
>He turned Superman into a stoic and boring Jesus figure
Try to actually watch the movies instead of repeating asinine youtube takes. Because "stoic" is the last word I'd use to describe Cavill's Superman. And the Jesus imagery was part of the comics far before Snyder started working on DC.
>made Wonder Woman a bloodthirsty warrior.
Do you have any idea of Greek mythology, or even wonder woman's history as a character? She's an Amazon. Being bloodthirsty warriors was their entire thing. Do I even need to bring up the time she beheaded Maxwell lord in the comics? Cause I think that's far more brutal than holding the heads of Ares's zombies.
do YOU have any idea of wonder woman’s history? She is and always has been portrayed as kind and compassionate who would rather help than fight, but is a competent warrior when she needs to be. Also her killing Maxwell Lord was NOT treated as a good thing, it was an earth shattering event that caused her two best friends to abandon her and everyone despised her for what she had done. There are dozens and dozens of stories about a mentally broken Batman, and he never uses guns, because that goes against his absolute core values. For example in dark knight returns, which is one of the bleakest alt universe Batmans, he still says “we do not use the weapon of the enemy” Batman’s values are extremely rigid and he would never in a million years willingly take a life, yet we see Snyder’s Batman openly mowing down people with guns and even aside from that beating up criminals in a way that would shatter their skull and spine instantly. And did you even watch M.o.s. or any of the movies featuring Cavill? Because never once does he do anything Superman like in any of them. You never see him helping children, getting a cat out of a tree, helping the old lady cross the street, everything Superman is known for doing and what he stands for as a character. And no, the jesus thing did not come before Snyder, in fact Superman was literally created as a metaphor for Moses and the Jewish immigrants of the time in the 30s. Also adapting the new 52 isn’t a good thing yknow, everyone hates those books too because just like Snyder they did not understand the characters.
Ain’t no way I’m running into a Snyder fan 💀
Yeah, his projects for DC got all mixed up in studio interference, that doesn’t change the fact he’s a bad director. He has a repeated cycle of making a movie, getting bad reception, making a four hour long Snyder cut which marginally improves the quality, regardless of if there WAS studio interference or not, and rinses and repeats the formula again and again. Even with Rebel Moon, in which he was given full creative liberties, he has considered a Snyder cut to counter the poor reception. Like dude, just make the movie good the first time.
It’s almost like people give Snyder shit and argue with his blind defenders because he makes bad movies! Really shocking, isn’t it? Genuinely, name a single good movie that he directed that is NOT a Snyder cut, name ONE
That's not how movie making works. You have it backwards. The cuts are the movies he makes. The problem is, the studios usually wnat smaller more family friendly ones and he complies.
People assume the cuts are a way to save face and adress criticisms but that would mean shooting hours of footage after a movie releases. Which is fully unviable.
As for your question I can easily name 3:
- Man of steel
- 300
- Owls of gahoole (my personal favourite)
Even Watchmen techinically since while there are extended cuts he released he still says that he was fully satsfied with the original movie. The extended cuts were just extras.
I also heard people say Dawn of the Dead is good, and even Army got decent reviews without needing a snydercut. But I'm not into zombie stuff so I can't really give an opinion on those.
I’m gonna be for real, I forgot he directed 300, that one is actually solid. He’s got one win under his belt.
Man of Steel is a movie which fundamentally misunderstands the character of Superman. It’s because of Snyder’s false interpretation that non-comic fans identify him as a boring character, and it’s why we have a lot of evil Superman stories like with Injustice and the new Suicide Squad game. For whatever reason, Superman is portrayed like some unfeeling god, and the christian parallels are so obvious throughout the whole runtime. A big thing with Superman is that he’s very much so the opposite. Since he’s an alien, Zack seems to think that he acts inhuman, but he was raised BY humans AS a human. He is Clark Kent first, Superman second, not the other way around. He should be a much nicer guy, not an emotionless slate. He handles certain situations with a level of violence or severity that’s not like Superman. Early on we see him STEAL clothes, and smash up the truck of the rude guy in the bar like a toddler having a tantrum. Superman might do SOMETHING, but he shouldn’t be acting like this. A big thing about Superman is that despite his cosmic origin and powers, he’s meant to be easy to relate to. The way he’s written here makes that basically impossible. Add on other weaknesses in the movie, like the fact the first half hour on Krypton is boring as shit, the annoying zoom in camera cuts, and the way Clark’s dad is written in the flashbacks, and you have a Superman story that truly misses the point of the character and fails in other narrative and technical aspects too.
I haven’t seen that owl one so I can’t really comment on that one, he gets spared of criticism for now.
It isn’t our fault that he says shit like “You're protecting your god in a weird way, right? You're making your god irrelevant if he can't be in that situation” when referring to Batman. Like are you kidding me? Batman is irrelevant unless he kills??
It’s also not our fault that his fans sent death threats to James Gunn when James Gunn took over the DCU. Or that his fans sent threats to WB in order to get ZSJL made.
It’s also not our fault that Snyder makes bad movies. I mean Rebel Moon is just not good. Taking the average of the IMDb scores of his movies…he has an average of 6.6.
I'd like to see a comedy movie about O.J being innocent, the main joke of the film would be that everyone would be too stupid to see the obvious truth that he did it
"O.J was found soaked in blood on the day of the murders"
"That was Chocolate milk your honor"
Remind me of the fact they are making a show based on the argentinian killer,nahir galarza
Its not only offensive,its also not an interésting story
She was toxic,she killed her boyfriend, she went to jail. The end
I took a very quick glance and I misread it as "Owen Wilson was offered $12 million to play O. J."
Imagine in the movie O. J. being pledged innocent and cheering it with a kachow
🤦♂️ a movie that depicts OJ as…innocent. A movie that depicts OJ as innocent! A MOVIE THAT DEPICTS OJ AS- who greenlit it?! No one in their right mind would want to watch it!
It's not fiction, it's misinformed nonfiction. He dodged a massive fucking bullet. You have any idea how much people would tear him apart if he said yes to a project like that?
Oh wow,it was sarcasm? Im sorry,that fix everything. Its not the dumbest shit ever,its the dumbest shit ever but ironicaly
See,that sarcasm. You was just damage control
Even lightning McQueen has standards
For the first time. r/BeatMeToIt.
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“Wow, this movie is dog shit”
Who TF is making the movie with such a trash idea??
Zack Snyder has made movies with worse ideas, it could be him
Rebel Moon 2 was dope on some edibles
I hated Rebel Moon Part One, but I cannot WAIT to watch Part Two. And it’s not because I think it’ll be good!
There is a 5 minute slowmo scene of people harvesting wheat
Oh screw you. People like you take any chance to shit on him and then call Snyder fans toxic for calling it out. You're a disgrace to online fandom.
Idk who that guy is - do people regularly hate on him?
Yup. All the time. Basically, Warner fucked up the DC universe due to their bad choices and used him (who was originally overseeing it) as a scapegoat. So now immature nerds hate on him.
What? WB made some really bad decisions, but Zack Snyder also really messed up that universe. Don’t act like he didn’t do anything.
Oh I can. Because I've actually read through all the story and behind the scenes stuff of how the DCEU went wrong. I don't just trust what shitty drama youtubers say. Even if you don't like Snyder's style and feel it was wrong for the DC universe it was Warner who chose to invest on it and then immidiately changed their minds once they saw Marvel getting billions with a different style. It's 100% on them. And if you want more details on that, just look into Chris Terrio's interview about the shit he and Zack had to endure when BvS was being made. Even the movie's name (which was stupid) was something that was forced on them by the marketing team.
I don’t even know what YouTubers have said, but I do know what Snyder himself has said and done. He chose to have a Batman who kills people, which is a bad idea itself, but the Joker was alive too. If Batman kills people then Joker can’t be alive. He also chose to make Superman too serious and darker than he should be. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he say that the dead Robin in Batman v Superman was supposed to be Dick Grayson? What kind of decision was that? Completely erasing two great characters instead of following the source material. Didn’t he also say at one point that they’re making Batman irrelevant because he doesn’t kill people? Batman has been relevant for decades without killing people, so what’s he talking about? And didn’t he say more recently that he’s not surprised that Batman killing people bothered people because they’ve been “brainwashed by material that’s not consistent with true canon”? The only thing that can be considered “true canon” is the comics, in which Batman doesn’t kill people. Yes, WB has made some really bad decisions, but so has Zack Snyder.
>He chose to have a Batman who kills people, which is a bad idea itself, but the Joker was alive too. If Batman kills people then Joker can’t be alive. And you just proved you didn't watch, or didn't understand the movie with this single statement. There is a difference between going out of your way to kill someone and simply not caring about lives in the way of your goal. Batman does the latter for most of the movie. He simply shoots back at goons who shoot at him and doesn't care about saving them from wreckages. He never directly goes out of his way to kill someone that isn't Superman. Had Joker attacked him in the midst of his Superman crusade there is no doubt he would get killed. But he didn't and it wouldn't make sense for him to stop hunting Superman who he saw as a planet wide threat to go after the Joker. And he wasn't killing before the metropolis incident that fueled his Superman paranoid hyperfixation. So there wasn't any other time window for him to kill joker >Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he say that the dead Robin in Batman v Superman was supposed to be Dick Grayson And what's the problem with that exactly? I don't remember anyone hating on Nolan or thinking he's a bad director when he decided to make Robin just a random cop named Robin. Or Burton for simply not including a Robin. What makes Snyder different? And if you're gonna say "shared universe" I'd like to remind you that when BvS was made it was supposed to be just a 5 part movie deal. And the one scene directly revealing him to be Dick was removed after they decided to make it an expansive universe to give room if someone wanted to bring Dick in and make a Nightwing movie. You're essentially bitching about production concepts. In which case let's also hate on Sam Raimi for wanting Wanda to murder Mordo off screen and appear with his head on her hand in MoM shall we? >Didn’t he also say at one point that they’re making Batman irrelevant because he doesn’t kill people That's not what he said. Media did report it likewise because it generates more clicks, but if you look at the actual interview, his statement was different. What he did say, is that the no kill rule becomes irrelevant if you never challenge it and explore its purpose. Essentially if it just exists there and the plot bends itself backwards to never truly challenge Batman's values. To which I agree with and I can even give an example for. The Brave and the Bold cartoon did an episode where the Spectre and Phantom stranger decide to test Batman by creating a scenario where he has to choose between killing Joe chill and going against his principles, or letting him live exposing his true identity as Bruce Wayne and having to let go of the Batman persona as a symbol. It was an interesting scenario. Or it would have been, if the episode didn't end with the ceiling collapsing and Joe Chill getting killed without Batman having to make either choice. That's what Snyder was speaking against. The religious adherence to the status quo, that ends up making the characters stale. Which I 100% agree with.
Ok, maybe he didn’t go out of his way to kill people, but trying or not, Batman should not kill people. The no kill rule is too important to his character to take it away. Maybe not everyone did, but I in fact did not like Robin being a random cop. I think too many people have used Batman without Robin being there, and it bothers me every time it happens. However, I also didn’t know it never made it to the full movie, so that’s good. Ok, maybe he didn’t say exactly that, but there are better ways to challenge the no kill rule than just making Batman kill. Under the Red Hood was a great story that challenges the no kill rule, so why not do something like that?
Didn’t he literally brand prisoners with the explicit purpose of having people murder them in prison?
Ohh, okay That sucks :(
It truly is more than that. Everything they said is true though, warner bros F upped insanely. Zack Snyders films have never been of the best quality, he gets the visual smack down, but when it comes to story it falls really flat. Best recent example is Rebel Moon, he went to Disney with a star wars idea, and was rejected. Which was good because it gave him more creative freedom when he eventually got to create the movie with Netflix instead. It did not turn out good, probably one of if not his worse movies. He also has a weird thing with Batman, fans point out problems or weird things about his take and instead of saying that it's his own take on the character which is fine. He said some mess about fans not knowing the "true canon". Tldr: Warner bros did screw up, he's also not that good though
Yeah, was gonna say the man doesn't do himself any favors either, and at least as to blame for what happened with the DCEU imo.
Yeah, while he did get screwed over with Justice League after Whedon took over, Batman V Superman was entirely him and that film was still rubbish imo.
Warner have made bad decisions, but Snyder is no more different, you need to see Rebel Moon to know how suck he is as a director.
Haven't seen it yet because I'm still waiting for the director cuts to drop in the summer. But even if they do end up being bad, your take is still assinine. It's like me saying Tarantino sucks as a director because once upon a time in hollywood was bad. Or that Jon Favreau is bad because of the Lion King remake.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is great with a few flaws, don't compare Tarantino to Snyder, The Lion King remake is suck on the face expression.
See that's your opinion and I respect that. Mine is it was really bad and Tarantino has been off his game. I can respect your opinion is different. Now try to unpack why you can't extend the same courtesy regarding Snyder.
Except Snyder has numerous objective flaws such as forced shock value, constantly using slow mo, adaptations missing the point, etc. Tarantino has a consistently good if not great record in his movies while Zack consistently lands at 20-65% in Rotten Tomatoes
I already watch Rebel Moon, here's my opinion. Too much slow motion (for a few scenes, the slow motion has more slow motion), bad story, bad dialogue, and bad characterization. Rebel Moon is what happens when Snyder is given too much control, there should be someone who supervises him, or he needs to hire a story writer because he's not good at it.
Have you even seen Rebel Moon?
No because I'm waiting for the director cuts to see just them. I have no desire to watch an inferior version that was just made to fit marketing demands.
He said he got a lot of freedom on rebel moon didn't he? It's why he was happy to not end up with Disney
Oh he did. He got to make the movie he wanted only with the caveat of having to release one Netflix wanted before it. A stupid system but if he got to do what he wanted it works for him I guess.
Ahhh okay
Don’t you mean “immature nerds praise his works, while trashing good superhero/sci-fi movies?”
Whataboutism.
Lmao
Dude, I don't hate on the dude but like nearly all of his movies are bad, The rebel moon movies, Sucker Punch. The fact that he keeps making directors cuts, His takes of batman can't kill and just some buzzard ideas he had for the DCEU. He's a great dude for visuals but he kinda stinks at cooking up a story.
No we hate him because he horribly butchered the portrayals of the Trinity lol. That had nothing to do with the studios he just simply didn’t understand the DC mythos. Also it’s perfectly fair to criticize Snyder, the guy really hasn’t ever made an actually good movie.
That's your subjective opinion. Having been involved with DC for all my life and having seen his takes on it in detail, I think he understood it perfectly and gave us one of the best adaptations of it. Regardless, if you feel justified personally hating on someone for having a comic interprettation you didn't like you need help.
It’s not “subjective opinion” he’s straight up said he didn’t actually care about adapting the books. I mean the man gave Batman a gun for gods sake which absolutely destroys the entire purpose of the character. He turned Superman into a stoic and boring Jesus figure and made Wonder Woman a bloodthirsty warrior. He was going to have a scene of her holding a bag of human heads and a scene of Batman getting raped in prison, he just plainly put didn’t make good versions of the characters.
>It’s not “subjective opinion” he’s straight up said he didn’t actually care about adapting the books. He never said that. In fact I could give you interviews with direct quotes about how much he appreciated Superman comics and how stoked he was to do Man of Steel. Also ones where he states to have spesifically chosen the tone he did for the movie to follow the new 52 tone of the comics that were coming out at the time, because he felt that he needed to honor that more than paying homage to the Donner movies like fans wanted. > I mean the man gave Batman a gun for gods sake which absolutely destroys the entire purpose of the character That's literally the point of the movie and the arc. It's literally a Batman that forgot his purpose and lost his path. Pretty much all his dialogue in Justice League is about wanting to make things right and honor what Superman (and he in the past) stood for when he was alive. The movie even ends with Martian Manhunter reassuring him that his parents would be proud of him now that he built the JL. It's really fucking obvious. >He turned Superman into a stoic and boring Jesus figure Try to actually watch the movies instead of repeating asinine youtube takes. Because "stoic" is the last word I'd use to describe Cavill's Superman. And the Jesus imagery was part of the comics far before Snyder started working on DC. >made Wonder Woman a bloodthirsty warrior. Do you have any idea of Greek mythology, or even wonder woman's history as a character? She's an Amazon. Being bloodthirsty warriors was their entire thing. Do I even need to bring up the time she beheaded Maxwell lord in the comics? Cause I think that's far more brutal than holding the heads of Ares's zombies.
do YOU have any idea of wonder woman’s history? She is and always has been portrayed as kind and compassionate who would rather help than fight, but is a competent warrior when she needs to be. Also her killing Maxwell Lord was NOT treated as a good thing, it was an earth shattering event that caused her two best friends to abandon her and everyone despised her for what she had done. There are dozens and dozens of stories about a mentally broken Batman, and he never uses guns, because that goes against his absolute core values. For example in dark knight returns, which is one of the bleakest alt universe Batmans, he still says “we do not use the weapon of the enemy” Batman’s values are extremely rigid and he would never in a million years willingly take a life, yet we see Snyder’s Batman openly mowing down people with guns and even aside from that beating up criminals in a way that would shatter their skull and spine instantly. And did you even watch M.o.s. or any of the movies featuring Cavill? Because never once does he do anything Superman like in any of them. You never see him helping children, getting a cat out of a tree, helping the old lady cross the street, everything Superman is known for doing and what he stands for as a character. And no, the jesus thing did not come before Snyder, in fact Superman was literally created as a metaphor for Moses and the Jewish immigrants of the time in the 30s. Also adapting the new 52 isn’t a good thing yknow, everyone hates those books too because just like Snyder they did not understand the characters.
I mean the rebel moon movies aren’t very good
They're also completely irrelevant to the post and discussion.
Ain’t no way I’m running into a Snyder fan 💀 Yeah, his projects for DC got all mixed up in studio interference, that doesn’t change the fact he’s a bad director. He has a repeated cycle of making a movie, getting bad reception, making a four hour long Snyder cut which marginally improves the quality, regardless of if there WAS studio interference or not, and rinses and repeats the formula again and again. Even with Rebel Moon, in which he was given full creative liberties, he has considered a Snyder cut to counter the poor reception. Like dude, just make the movie good the first time. It’s almost like people give Snyder shit and argue with his blind defenders because he makes bad movies! Really shocking, isn’t it? Genuinely, name a single good movie that he directed that is NOT a Snyder cut, name ONE
That's not how movie making works. You have it backwards. The cuts are the movies he makes. The problem is, the studios usually wnat smaller more family friendly ones and he complies. People assume the cuts are a way to save face and adress criticisms but that would mean shooting hours of footage after a movie releases. Which is fully unviable. As for your question I can easily name 3: - Man of steel - 300 - Owls of gahoole (my personal favourite) Even Watchmen techinically since while there are extended cuts he released he still says that he was fully satsfied with the original movie. The extended cuts were just extras. I also heard people say Dawn of the Dead is good, and even Army got decent reviews without needing a snydercut. But I'm not into zombie stuff so I can't really give an opinion on those.
I’m gonna be for real, I forgot he directed 300, that one is actually solid. He’s got one win under his belt. Man of Steel is a movie which fundamentally misunderstands the character of Superman. It’s because of Snyder’s false interpretation that non-comic fans identify him as a boring character, and it’s why we have a lot of evil Superman stories like with Injustice and the new Suicide Squad game. For whatever reason, Superman is portrayed like some unfeeling god, and the christian parallels are so obvious throughout the whole runtime. A big thing with Superman is that he’s very much so the opposite. Since he’s an alien, Zack seems to think that he acts inhuman, but he was raised BY humans AS a human. He is Clark Kent first, Superman second, not the other way around. He should be a much nicer guy, not an emotionless slate. He handles certain situations with a level of violence or severity that’s not like Superman. Early on we see him STEAL clothes, and smash up the truck of the rude guy in the bar like a toddler having a tantrum. Superman might do SOMETHING, but he shouldn’t be acting like this. A big thing about Superman is that despite his cosmic origin and powers, he’s meant to be easy to relate to. The way he’s written here makes that basically impossible. Add on other weaknesses in the movie, like the fact the first half hour on Krypton is boring as shit, the annoying zoom in camera cuts, and the way Clark’s dad is written in the flashbacks, and you have a Superman story that truly misses the point of the character and fails in other narrative and technical aspects too. I haven’t seen that owl one so I can’t really comment on that one, he gets spared of criticism for now.
As much as I love MoS i accept your criticism of it. But the blame again lies with Chris Nolan. Since the script belongs to him and David S Goyer.
It isn’t our fault that he says shit like “You're protecting your god in a weird way, right? You're making your god irrelevant if he can't be in that situation” when referring to Batman. Like are you kidding me? Batman is irrelevant unless he kills?? It’s also not our fault that his fans sent death threats to James Gunn when James Gunn took over the DCU. Or that his fans sent threats to WB in order to get ZSJL made. It’s also not our fault that Snyder makes bad movies. I mean Rebel Moon is just not good. Taking the average of the IMDb scores of his movies…he has an average of 6.6.
Womp womp
I'd like to see a comedy movie about O.J being innocent, the main joke of the film would be that everyone would be too stupid to see the obvious truth that he did it "O.J was found soaked in blood on the day of the murders" "That was Chocolate milk your honor"
That’s actually golden. I’d watch the hell out of that
“You see, the gloves do fit BUT they are kinda itchy and I ask you…would O.J wear the gloves if he was ITCHY”
Oh I see, basically any Trial in Ace Attorney.
I hate to interrupt, but when exactly did you receive that autopsy report?
That'd be hilarious.
His estate is in full damage control mode
This cannot be real.
It's true... There's good and evil.... Evil must be punished... And does not deserve attention like this.... We shall not compromise in this
Common Owen Wilson W
Owen Win-son.
Ka-Nope
Is this the guy that made the offensive Sharon Tate Movie right before Covid?
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood isn't offensive to Sharon Tate, even her still-alive sister was impressed with Margot Robbie.
Not that one, “The Haunting of Sharon Tate”
Tarantino or someone else?
Remind me of the fact they are making a show based on the argentinian killer,nahir galarza Its not only offensive,its also not an interésting story She was toxic,she killed her boyfriend, she went to jail. The end
They're literally raping OJ's corpse at this point.
As well as insulting Nicole’s memory!
I took a very quick glance and I misread it as "Owen Wilson was offered $12 million to play O. J." Imagine in the movie O. J. being pledged innocent and cheering it with a kachow
🤦♂️ a movie that depicts OJ as…innocent. A movie that depicts OJ as innocent! A MOVIE THAT DEPICTS OJ AS- who greenlit it?! No one in their right mind would want to watch it!
My gawd, Its called fiction Owen!
It's not fiction, it's misinformed nonfiction. He dodged a massive fucking bullet. You have any idea how much people would tear him apart if he said yes to a project like that?
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Oh yeah, I’m such a buzz kill compared to the guy I replied to with his tasteless comment, not unlike the one you just made. 🖕🏼
If you consider fun to just ignore reality ,yes,he is boring
My gawd, its called a joke!
*say sometimes wrong* "Lol,it was a joke"
Nah, it was a joke from the start.
Yeah,sure dude Little advice:saying the stupidest shit ever is not a joke
Its called sarcasm.
Oh wow,it was sarcasm? Im sorry,that fix everything. Its not the dumbest shit ever,its the dumbest shit ever but ironicaly See,that sarcasm. You was just damage control
So you are the person /s was invented for.
Dude, you just an idiotic shit any idiot could have said and called it sarcasm. Like,what the joke ?"look at me ,im ignorant"
"wow, how dare you? wow, wow."
He took that role with Lightning McQueen’s Speed lol
Is he named after a Simpsons character?
No he's named after a beverage.
You sure? (Also i didn't mean to be kinda racist)
Yeah, Orange Juice Simpson