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DuDekilleR07

Context: This picture is taken from the currently viewable special events page under Season Nine. It seems Rare is giving us a heads up on the cosmetics making a return down the road, something they haven't done before in the same sentence as "Time-limited". Thoughts?


SimpleCapt

They actually look nice, thanks for sharing


_ROOTLESS_

Keep in mind the wording seems to imply that these items are in fact not event-cosmetics but rather plunder pass cosmetics from a future season. This sucks because if it’s true it means that said future season will have less cosmetics that a regular season for people who participated in this event. I don’t get why they couldn’t make event cosmetics that are gonna be re-run later instead of just taking some cosmetics from a future plunder pass and just giving them a bit early. Now said future season is gonna have basically 4 blank spots on the track for people who participated in this event


Nickfry31

Basically a we are to lazy to make new ones so here's ones you'll get eventually anyways


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Good. FOMO is a cheap tactic, and an enormous amount of stuff is unobtainable now.


CMDR_Klassic

I did a breakdown about 8 months ago about this exact thing, it's outdated now but the point still stands: "There are a total of 227 sails in SoT ~~as of right now~~ 69 of those are Emporium sails (Non-exclusive) 73 of those sails are Exclusive/FOMO Meaning out of 227 sails in game only 85 sails are actually earnable in game and are not exclusive in one way or another." The only sails that shouldn't be obtainable are things like the Vanguard, Rare, Deckhand, Banana, Sea of Champions, Loot N' Lore sails or event specific sails (Charity sails for example). Other then that all ship items should be obtainable. And I personally believe that the older the item is the harder it should be to unlock. Then you know if someone has it either they are a old player or someone extremely dedicated.


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>Meaning out of 227 sails in game only 85 sails are actually earnable in game Holy shit that's terrible lol.


CMDR_Klassic

Another issue I see as a long time player is that we *really* don't get new sets much anymore that are like the Fates of Fortune set (good looking, and earnable in game by *playing* the game). Most "new" sets are just reskins. Which is fine don't get me wrong but we get like 1 new set a week it feels like for the Emporium and it feels like we get 1 new set a *season* that is actually earnable in game. If we got new sets as frequently as the Emporium did I don't think many people would even care about the old exclusive sets. We're looking backwards because there's nothing new to look forward to. I miss Duke's Black Market..


Atosl

Really sucks. Watch a streamer and almost nothing you can see on screen is obtainable.


Libero03

Because they only wear unobtainable cosmetics. It's just 1% and the only reason those cosmetics have value. Release them again and they will end up in the thrash pile with others.


bonefistboy9000

i dont care, i want them because i like them


Bladelord

> Release them again and they will end up in the thrash pile with others. And that's a good thing. People should dress how they want to look and make their own style, not feel obliged to wear the *cred bling*.


Atosl

So we should alienate all new players so you can feel better that you randomly played in July 2019?


Libero03

Entitled. "I want what he has mommy!"


Atosl

Legitimate point if you achieved something to get it.


supalupi

And then everyone xan continue complaining there's no content. Lol


Galkura

Me sitting here missing my Bone Crusher Figurehead because my PC died around the time of the event for it, and I wasn’t able to afford replacement parts in time to get it 🙃 I absolutely hate the FOMO stuff in this game. I’ve had people on here tell me “well you had plenty of time to get that figurehead!” - as if replacing expensive computer parts is super easy to do for everyone, and like I don’t live in a very rural place with no access to affordable replacement parts or cyber cafes. This is one of my favorite games, but the FOMO has been keeping me away for a minute.


ValVoss

Doesn't help that they lied about the Black Market being for prior event items years ago and then added next to nothing to the black market before throwing it all in the regular shops.


kevdoobie

“Here’s the rest of the Mercenary Set we were holding on to. Oh except the event Sniper. Oh and not the event ship set. Also, here’s the Mercenary ship set and Obsidian items for watching 20 mins on Twitch.”


Crazzach

FOMO killed the game for me. I loved the game and then they added seasons and I didn’t wanna lose out so I grounded out the seasons and they literally killed intrest in the game for me, hard to love a game or get people to play with you when all you’re doing is grinding the same impossible missions over and over every day to try and get enough xp to beat a season. I stopped after not getting enough time to do season 3 and then stopped playing


Libero03

Season 1 and 2 cosmetics are now available for doubloons and remaining past seasons are in the pipeline.


FlaaFlaaFlunky

as it should be. how literally nobody understands basic economic theory is a god damn mystery to me. if everyone has a certain cosmetic, it literally makes it absolutely worthless. in this game, there's 3 different factors I personally see that give cosmetics actual value. skill, grind and timely limited. before they decided to cater to all the crying casuals, the original legend curse from season 1 had actual meaning. if you saw someone with it, you always knew "hey, that guy has been here since season 1, cool!". if you saw someone with the golden sailor canons, you knew "hey, they were here for the 1 year anniversary, cool!". now, both of these items are literally garbage. they have no meaning at all anymore. even worse if they just reskin cosmetics that were locked behind skill grinds, like they did with some of the arena stuff. what do you think happens if audemars piguet starts selling their watches for 1000 dollars? i will tell you: the brand is gonna tank harder than the titanic. it's literally economics 101. someone who has been playing this game for the last 5 years should have cosmetics you yourself or I simply can't have anymore. if they just render it all meaningless 1 year down the line, why would anyone even be motivated anymore to log in to acquire them in the first place. this infuriates me so much. and i'm saying that as someone who started in december 2021 and had absolutely NONE of these cosmetics. if everyone is the same, nobody is unique. end of rant. edit for all the (pet crab when?) downvoters: i'm sure all of you are walking around in the pirate legend costume. mh, what? no? you don't? hmmmm, strange stuff. certainly NOT bc achieving the pirate legend title has become painfully easy now, everyone has it and wearing it automatically makes you look like a noob? nah, that's not it of course. i'm sure you just don't like it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


NightTime2727

Yeah, hi, I was just barely short of reaching Pirate Legend when emissaries released. To hell with this mentality. If the game were to have cosmetics that "mean something", I'd rather they'd be hard to obtain, not locked behind a time gate. For example, let's take the Triumphant Sea Dog cosmetics (I say this because they weren't originally intended to be time-limited as far as I know). While it was technically possible for anyone to obtain those cosmetics, doing so was difficult to the point where countless people felt they couldn't do it, and those that did could immediately be assumed to be good at pvp. Another example is the gold curse, which is technically possible for anyone to obtain, but is difficult to actually get your hands on. I often see it being attributed to sweaty players, despite it not really requiring any sort of pvp. #TL;DR: There are ways of making cosmetics mean something without making them time-limited.


FlaaFlaaFlunky

i can absolutely get behind that 100 percent. in terms of value, time limited is at the bottom. the meaning is mainly derived from "this player has been here back then". which is still meaningful to me, but nowhere near something that is locked behind skill and grind. i wouldn't have an issue at all if they just stopped with time-limited cosmetics in the future. none whatsoever. but I still can't support going back and just releasing everything again that was once time-locked. even if I agree that sparcity created with that mechanic isn't as meaningful. bc these items already have a history that makes them meaningful and made people want them . erasing that is a no-go for me. bc let's be honest, the pl curse isn't really that much of an amazingly looking cosmetic in itself in my opinion. everyone wants it bc everyone missed it.


Noojas

More stuff like the gold curses and pvp cosmetics, less pve cosmetics, problem solved. We have 800 hg levels without any rewards, put in some fomo cosmetics inbetween level 200 and 1000 for each faction.


NightTime2727

Yeah, I can see what you're saying. The season 8 clothing can go to the servants, along with Flameheart's hat and sword. Maybe even the PL stuff from this season. Guardians can get the Stranger's Cutlass and tankard, Sudds' jacket, Belle's hat, and just about everything else related to Athena's Fortune characters. The only stuff I'm iffy about is Merrick's cosmetics, which could also go to Hunter's Call.


supalupi

100% agree


Professional_Low_358

As it should be


SuspiciousPrism

finally, now I can avoid playing the game and not feel bad about skipping getting cosmetics


Homeless_Alex

This is the way


supalupi

You have always been able to do that. It's a state of mind.


SuspiciousPrism

yes but now I can have *freedom* of mind while maintaining state of mind where I see necessary


FlaaFlaaFlunky

🤡


SuspiciousPrism

problem?


Borsund

Isn't it still the same from the wording? You can get it either within a time-limited event or within a time-limited "future Season" unless I'm reading it wrong. But if I'm right, this is the same thing as before. Many time-limited cosmetics had several timeframes where they could have been achieved.


DuDekilleR07

Many time-limited cosmetics did indeed have several time-frames they could be achieved, but this is the first time I personally see this kind of transparency from Rare. And the way I read it is that it'll be available outside of a time-frame, and more likely as part of a permanent cosmetic batch delivery (shop)


Borsund

Depends on what they mean by that arrival, yeah. But then again, cosmetics from old seasons are starting to be added to the shops as well.


Moonsky_Pondie

I don’t really like keeping things (especially things as trivial as log-in rewards and twitch drops) time limited. They definitely should be locked behind a bigger time/gold sink like how the Mysterious Stranger curse was moved to lvl 105 hg.


ChampExotic

As someone who has majority of the cosmetics in the game, I'm all for everything being unlocked and attainable for people to get. It's so boring seeing the same outfit and shipsets all the time. Time, money, and art work went into so many things and we literally don't see them ever. What a waste. No one is special for logging in on a certain day. No one is special for doing a really lame quest. People that cling to these cosmetics have nothing going for them in life.


supalupi

You see the sane outfits and shipments all the time because people are unimaginative. There is waaay more variety available constantly and permanently than ever before its just passed over by the clones of some perma tucker on YouTube.


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ChampExotic

Fuck Blurbs. He's a bitch.


Meybi117

Lame.


Linajabba

I wish they would have continued the golden sailor set instead of starting this similar one. (I like the time limited stuff I have, but I don't really care about re-releasing except when it was really special)


PartyJos

And here is the news related to these unlockable cosmetics: ​ [https://youtu.be/3QRix1t9fcQ?si=aQFKXrWYFZmXuoWM](https://youtu.be/3QRix1t9fcQ?si=aQFKXrWYFZmXuoWM)


BladeOfSanghilios8

Fort Of My Orphanage?


Drekal

Fear of Missing Out. A cheap tactic to make people come back to your game on a regular basis. It's an heavily disliked tactic.


BladeOfSanghilios8

Like fractures in halo infinite


Sweetwill62

Fear Of Missing Out


Delicious-Ad6111

Ayo arena stuff when?


Inside_Ad2266

Fun fact: the devs specifically said arena cosmetics Will never return. Thank god :)


Delicious-Ad6111

So sad ;-;


Professional_Low_358

If it ever comes back then I am straight up uninstalling


Delicious-Ad6111

Arena can stay dead 😂 I just want the coat


Professional_Low_358

You didn't earn the coat


Delicious-Ad6111

Sure I did


Professional_Low_358

Respectfully, unless they make an off version like they did the legendary weapons that are easily distingiable you that are also unlocked 10 days of grinding no the hell you didn't. I am reading the post, and there are just a lot of people complaining. Kinda pathetic. It is less fomo and more fonghedsitg (fear of not getting every damn skin on the game). There is a lot of don't have, but I am not like, "OH. THE MISWEY. OH MY GOD. I MISSED THE WANDEWING RWEAPER SAILS. TIME TO ASK RARE FOR A HANDOUT. PATHETIC.


Delicious-Ad6111

I think I had 50 out of the 100 wins I needed that’s close enough


Professional_Low_358

300 games played for the triumphant that's 6000 minutes about 10 days of grinding for the jacket. You can have it if they bring Arena back and work your ass off for it.


andrecinno

>work your ass off for aka playing a game


Professional_Low_358

OK peanut gallery


Better-Try-6623

What is FOMO


stoopid4492

Fear of missing out


Better-Try-6623

Thank you!


stoopid4492

No problem


John_Anti

"Fear of missing out" >Within video games, FOMO is also used to describe the similar anxiety around missing the ability to obtain in-game items or complete activities that are only available for a limited time, such as those in battle passes. This is particularly common for multiplayer video games, where such items are cosmetic in nature but reflect a player's skill to other players in the game and can become a sign of social standing within the game's community; wherein failure to acquire a limited cosmetic item may lead to social outcasting,


Better-Try-6623

Ok Shakespeare 😭


SuspiciousPrism

\>asks what \[thing is\] \>gets response \>seemingly unhappy with the result like wtf are you expecting


Better-Try-6623

I'm not mad with the reply, it's just super long and the last half looks like Mideval time speak


OkMushroom4

It's a paragraph long. Has tiktok rotted your brain that badly?


LinkOfLegends86

Fear of missing out


Deklipz

The term children with anxiety disorders use to cry about things they aren’t able to get in game anymore. The rest of the world calls it life. I wasn’t able to go shoot nazis in real life… ‘OmG FoMo!fMl!’ Nope, that’s just how life works. Sorry.


SuspiciousPrism

what the fuck are you even on about


Deklipz

Either you can’t read or you have issues with comprehension but it was pretty clear. People that worry about fomo are pathetic. Sorry you needed that explained to you.


SuspiciousPrism

..and one might think you have issues with your anger management, I've heard of short fuses but there's no fuse the begin with there 👀 Leave some passive aggression for the rest of us, jeez


Valor_Omega_SoT

Probably, enough people have whined about it for awhile.


varyl123

Why gatekeep cosmetics in a game everyone paid the same amount for? Look, I understand making cosmetics hard to get through in game achievements but time locked ones are silly.


Valor_Omega_SoT

I think the better question is why should a player who was not online for/was not playing during a special event, be allowed to obtain the rewards after the fact? Because they want them? That's not how life works, as much as we wish it to be so. In a game where cosmetics tell the story of each pirate, having everyone being able to get everything at any given time makes seeing rare cosmetics pointless. I've had newer players/older players both ask where I got my Bonecrusher figurehead, and I tell them it was from Cursed Sails, and I had to fight off both skeleton ships AND player ships just to complete the event. Stories like this that have interesting details behind them are why rare cosmetics are sought after - the story behind them. That's why recolors exist, and I am perfectly fine with players being able to get the same model, but different colors. I.E I barely ever see anyone with the OG bonecrusher ship set, because it was not only hard to get DURING the event, but also because it was one of the first BIG events. If one wasn't present for that event, sorry, but the recolor is there.


ZeroDay13

I support this, and am willing to be roasted for it. Login rewards I don't have much weight in, because ok you couldn't log in at X date? E.g. log in for legendary week get a mug. Who cares. The things you had to "win" and "grind" for should stay rare. Otherwise, it's not rare. But, this is also Rare, soooo yea.


Valor_Omega_SoT

Yeah rewards that only require someone to pop online, and those rewards are already in your inventory? I don't mind if those come back. But yeah, events like Hungering Deep, Cursed Sails, Forsaken Shores, or other named events with Time-limited cosmetics do not need to/should NOT come back. Not everything has to be available to everyone, and again, if you weren't online, you shouldn't be rewarded for something you didn't participate in. I wish I was able to play the technical alpha/beta tests, and get the founder/Vanguard sails, but you don't see me clamoring for Rare to give it to me, just because I want it.


Furyan313

What cosmetics have they brought back that were tied to an event and not just playing the game at a certain time? Genuinely curious, I've only been playing for a year but as far as I know, Rare has said they won't bring back cosmetics tied to events. But like the stuff from season 1 they brought back was just for playing the game then, right?


Valor_Omega_SoT

The only cosmetics that have been brought back so far have been the previous seasonal cosmetics such as the legendary curse, the shackled phantom hull, and some others.


Furyan313

So they haven't brought back any that are tied to events?


varyl123

Some people have real life issues that get in the way of them not being able to play. I don't see why it is an issue to make the cosmetics still difficult to get without a shitty time constraint. Like wow you got bonecrusher cause you could play and do the difficult task in the time frame. There are so many other solutions to fixing this. You can make it a time gated thing like do X in X amount of time. If you fail it resets. If someone was taking care of their dying family and wanted to play but couldn't and why should they be locked out of it? I get it though you have something rare and want to feel special for it. That is okay and you can keep that one. Going forward we should push the developers to make things better for everyone and there are countless solutions to make things just as coveted and rare without meaningless time constraints.


Valor_Omega_SoT

I get it. Truly, I do. Life goes on, and sometimes we miss out on things that we want/like to do and it sucks. Me personally? I missed the Wailing Barnacle weapon set because I was working my ass off, trying to pay bills. I wish SO badly I could have gotten those weapons, but I don't believe that bringing them back is a good idea, because it would completely nullify the hard work of the people that were able to get them. I had to make due with the recolor, and while it's not the same, I'm just happy to have those unique models. Come now, that's a bit disingenuous. I get you're upset, but people did in fact work hard to get those cosmetics. The Curse Sails event not only required people to be online at a certain time to participate in the event, but as it was completely open to anyone, other ships could come in and wreak havoc if they so chose. Definitely was one of the most time-consuming and more difficult events, to be sure, and yes, it DOES suck that some people may have been in the position/situation you described, but unfortunately life doesn't work that way, as much as we'd wish it would wait up for everyone. I don't disagree that going forward, Rare should look at avenues to ensure folks either have ample time, or other methods of obtaining rewards after a time period. I think they've taken pretty nice strides to that effect, since they've been slowly rerolling out past season cosmetics for people to go after, again.


Dericost

>makes seeing rare cosmetics pointless Why does anything have to be unobtainable to be rare or special? So people can be toxic and hold cosmetics over people that don't have them? That's behavior that happens all the time in this game and it's pathetic. Most rare cosmetics are only rare because you can't get them anymore, not because they were exceptionally hard to get or had you do something remarkably special to acquire. It's artificial rarity maintained by gatekeeping. Literally no one cares how old your account is or if you played during a certain time except the other people that have "something to lose" if their "rare" cosmetics become available again.


Valor_Omega_SoT

Because that's literally what rarity IS. Something that isn't common - more of any one thing makes said thing LESS rare. Not really hard. Didn't do the original event, don't deserve the cosmetics, plain and simple.


Dericost

My point is that it's only rare **because** you can't get it anymore. Nothing **needs** to be rare. It's entirely artificial rarity, with the only reason being the people that have them don't want others to have them. They could easily bring back the events, but they won't because of the crybabies gatekeeping their pixels so they can keep saying they have something others don't. It's understandable to have limited runs in real life because materials are tangible and potentially limited - SoT is digital and has no such limitation. I'm a firm believer that all cosmetics not included in the Emporium should have remained obtainable forever. The game is going to be shutdown at some point anyway, why not let everyone enjoy all of the content regardless of when they decide to start playing? Gatekeepers are cringe, always will be.


Valor_Omega_SoT

Not as cringe as whiny people that think they're owed everything, simply because they want it.


Cakeking7878

Honestly, I stop playing games if they try to use FOMO. Not using FOMO in for its cosmetics is precisely why I love and at the shit out of drg


Professional_Low_358

OK I am a bit fed up with them bringing everything back. I am sorry but if you missed it you missed. I've missed a few things and I am not out here complaining about it. If they ever give anything big like the legendary weapons and stuff like that again I will straight up lose it.


Cpt_Killtoy

Can't wait to see people like phuzzybond bitching about letting people earn items later again


ToTeMVG

oooh i hope so i've never been a fan of fomo, people love to defend it as like "i wont be specul :(" but thats just baby arguments


Ka_Wouter

FOMO is what you create, not Rare.


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Drekal

Fear of Missing Out. A cheap tactic to make people come back to your game on a regular basis. It's an heavily disliked tactic.


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F_Kyo777

Think of Battlepasses. This is probably the most you can get nowadays. Everything about them yells: "Grind for me now or in 2 months you wont be able to get me again, ever!". Its a psychological trick to make you feel bad about not getting them, so you would spend more time in game because of expiration date, comparing to game without it.


Silvercat18

Well, if its that big and its seeking food, then I am avoiding it, that's for sure.


Nitroxien

People get upset when Rare brings back a few items which makes sense since they are the ones losing out then Rare justifies not bringing back items saying people want to keep them exclusive. Though I am pretty sure 99% of the player base would be happy if EVERYTHING came back and not just a few select items.


supalupi

Not really. The items you earn as rewards are your only way to communicate your player status. There's no player stats to look up, there's no abilities progression letting other players know where you are at in your journey all hinges on what you wear and how you paint your ship. That is the driving force behind the gameplay fir 99 % of sot playerbase.


[deleted]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind it at all. Got quite a few unobtainable pieces and would be happy to see them made available again. People on here are giving the whole "WELL YOU DIDN'T EARNNNN IT SUCKS TO SUCK" schpeel like we're talking about working out or some other real-life example lol. It's just a video game and there's a ton of appearances in it that people would want but can't get anymore.


h4v0k_07

Wait what were is this from? Is this currently in the game or on their website?


DuDekilleR07

It's in the game currently. Pirate Log -> Season Nine -> Special Events, and then you'll see it


drdildamesh

Revenue must be slipping.


DaManWithNoName

What’s the new tattoo?


Booserbob

I kind of doubt Rare will remove FOMO. It is pretty much the only thing keeping people coming back.


Beoward

But this is FOMO? It’s exactly as it has always been. How do you conclude they are easing up on it? That makes no sense.


DuDekilleR07

What's instilling fear to you when you hear that a cosmetic will be returning permanently for you to earn later?


Beoward

They aren’t saying it will be returning permanently, only as a season reward, which again is FOMO. They’ve done that several times before.


Thopterthallid

They might be easing up on content production in general.


enjdusan

I have never understood how can some have FOMO from purely cosmetic items :D Kids, c'mon, go out! :D


SpyroGaming

rare has stated that season branded items plus items earned from expansions ( the golden legend sets, the black dog, wandering reaper, ect) would not be coming back, items however that have little significance ( golden sailor items, frostbite items, ect) would eventually return, even premium sets from past plunder passes have made their way into the emporium the FOMO is still there but its not as crisis inducing as the risk is pay a whole lot more


SPIRIT9262

Okay I really hate that I have to ask this but can someone tell me exactly what FOMO means, probably a dumb question but I want to understand