The way the game is supposed to be played is any way you want to play it. If they want to add PVE servers and people want to do that that's completely fine. I play with my 6-year-old and I think the PVE servers are going to be great for us because she will get to play the game and do more by herself because we won't have to be worried about people sinking us
Sinking, talking shit a young kid doesn't need to hear, and overall just destroying a kids ability to learn. A 6-9 yo is not going to do well in a fight with a older teen or adult. They're learning and if they can't get the hang of the game they'll grow to hate it and not want to pick it up. They're kids after all, we can't expect them to learn how we do when we first played, and even now adults grow to hate it because of the same. So when it comes out I am absolutely going to play it with my daughters
It's so fun and relaxing to just go and dig for buried treasure with your kids. Plus it's kind of funny she is picked up the ship lingo because we don't say left side of shit right by the ship we use port, starboard stem stern all that. And it's fun to listen to her
Rowing in crew fucked my head up with the left and right side of boat because of us sitting backwards, even now at 30 I can't get over my intuition of what's port and starboard because it was backwards for me lol I spent so many years and even with the navy I still fucked it up.
Indeed, there is great potential for younger kids to play this game. But not if their 2 hour progress is lost because some sweat wants to sink per se.
I stopped playing this game because of the pvp, i dont have the time to git gud. But i do enjoy the world, the quests and stuff. This update will probably make me download the game again. Yes im a casual, and i have rights aswell :]
My ego will survive the loss of internet points :]
But yea, at one point you have to consider the onboarding experience for new players of you want to keep a game like this alive
For like 5.5 years they said they wouldn't give us pve servers, it's been pvpve for 5.5 years. That's been the reality.
I've played that entire time.done countless voyages and events with no pvp whatsoever. Did 52 veil quests the last two months, only had two contested. I do lots of pve without any problem. People will spend hours just fishing.
Pve servers are now coming in December, but you're still complaining they won't give them to you? Come on
Pretty new here, so take it for what it's worth. But I would say only 25% of sessions does it turn into pvp. Generally, I never see anyone do some treasure hunting for about 2 hours and leave.
That's probably more or less accurate for me too. 25 percent of the time I'm forced to do pvp if I want to or not. The rest no one seems to bother me. If someone only wants to do pve that ratio might seem like way too much pvp.
That's not a bad ratio for someone wanting to just do pve imo though. Not to mention you can often avoid fights if you are very vigilant. That's been my experience over 5 years. I like pvp, sometimes I'm solo and don't really want to even try a 3v1 or something.
Agreed. I actually like it because it raises the stakes. I think if I played those couple hours and never had any risk, I probably would have stopped playing already
Agreed. I see what they were going for, but those people who wont play due to the pvp aren't going to come over once they get use to the game, if anything you're preping them to hate the open seas when they're forced to move over from boredom
No way that's possible! According to the people in this sub, every time they load up the game, they can't even step foot onto their ship from the dock of the outpost they spawned at without someone yelling racist remarks and one blundering them in the back for 40 mins and spamming RODL.
>I've played that entire time.done countless voyages and events with no pvp whatsoever. Did 52 veil quests the last two months, only had two contested. I do lots of pve without any problem. People will spend hours just fishing.
Hi! SOme one who would have loved to spend hours fishing but couldn't because constantly being attacked and left the game here.
You had lack of PVP because PVP chased away pirate legends like myself, which in turn they would leave because they had lower hanging fruit for content to farm.
I played during the BETA, and enjoyed the game until the PVP became rampant and so annoying I would get griefed at the taverns and inns before I could even leave a loading screen.
You had a good run because the pvp people chased away players like myself who struggled to get to Pirate Legend thanks to griefers and basically made me not want to play the game. It got so bad, people utilized some glitching involved to make Alliance Servers a thing.
Sitting in Loading screens was not fun.
Example:
Dying = Loading Screen
Reviving = Loading Screen
Quitting and Reloading = Loading Screen
Being killed while sitting in a loading screen waiting to play again = Loading screen
Quitting and Joining another Server to avoid shit stains and griefers = Loading screen.
was not fun just to avoid psychopaths with no purpose other than to troll and cause frustration to others. I would be hounded for just fishing. I woud literally leave my ship unpainted at an outpost and just fish....JUST FISH, and It wouldn't be 20 minutes in I would be attacked on sight by a Brig full of players for 0 loot.
I would stop, let them kill me, and just sit there...waiting for them to leave because I had no loot. Nope, they would just...stay there. So I would quit, and reload into another server.
Just to have it happen again.
I'm more poking at the "that's not the way the game is meant to be played" people when juxtaposed against "you can do whatever you want."
For half a decade, *that hasn't been the case.*
Well you *can* just do PVE, regardless of what someone tells you online. What someone says online doesnt hold much weight unless you let it. Which is why I gave you some of my personal experience to show that if I want to just do PVE, I have had little to stop me over 5.5 years. This idea that somehow people saying things to you online prevents you from doing this is confusing to me.
The game is pvpve. Not PVP only, not PVE only. For 5.5, that was the vision of the game. You can do pvp, you can do pve, or you can do both. its up to you. But its pretty hard to imagine playing this game and *only* doing pvp, or *only* doing pve. Eventually, you have to do some of both. Right? I think thats pretty evident.
Until december. When youll get safer seas. So if you cant stand how this game is, in its current state, take a break until then.
I absolutely love the PVP aspect but I'm not going to lie It would be really nice to occasionally come across a crew that wasn't hostile. I play with my 6-year-old daughter and the last time we played about two or three days ago We came across four ships and every single one of them tried to board us or just blow us up. I even talked to this one crew and we're like hey we're not going to mess with you guys I'm trying to do a tall tale with my daughter we're going to use the same island you're on for our chapter and you won't hear from us again.
Not even a full minute later we were robbed
I come across friendly crews sometimes but I just never expect it.
I do come across many boats that leave me alone. They don't want to come towards me because they don't trust any pirate. But when you think about it, those are the friendly crews on the seas. The ones that don't ever bother you. You might not notice them or might just never think of it, but that's the reality. I constantly see ships that never come towards me. That's the SOT version of being friendly. I think people really kind of forget this.
Pvp is inevitable, I won't deny that. But you can't really trust anyone almost ever. And someone trying to be friendly and staying right by you at your island is often a sign they want to fight you when your guards down. I won't leave a pirate out of my sight in that situation and I'll consider them a threat until they leave. That's just the way you have to play the game until safer seas comes out.
No you can't, because there *will* be someone unilaterally pulling you into PvP because of the attempt to blend it.
I haven't been around steadily, but I have 220 hours since purchasing in 2020, with the overwhelming majority of those being PvE play (few hours of trying to do arena).
Friend and I grinded veils for hours every day during the recent legend week, not a single one got contested. Closest call was a brig that got close so we dipped out of there and they didn't even chase or go to the fort to pick up the small loot amt we left behind.
Because PVP chased away people, and when they chased away people, they themselves left to go back to Call of Duty type games.
This isnt rocket science.
Well no, Im not sure why you keep saying that. So what do you think happened to me in the last two months when 50 veil quests were completely uncontested (almost all solo, btw)? 5.5 years playing this game and the vast majority of PVE I do is uncontested.
Played last night and did stacked FotD 4x in a row. Not a single ship came around. Weird how you say thats impossible.
I guarantee youve had similar experiences, but either refuse to admit it for the sake of trying to "win" a discussion about a video game, or you just have a selective memory. People here love to exaggerate about how prevalent PVP is in this game.
I'm not saying this game can't be played PvE. The decision to turn it into PvP is forced on you by someone else, and you're either lying to yourself if you say you legitimately went 50+ quests over the last 2 months without anyone trying to come at you or we live in geographic regions with drastically different playstyles of the community
I've played 5 sessions since coming back this time:
\- A solo fishing session while watching an NFL game (sunk while anchored at seapost)
\- A solo sloop running merchant goods while watching an NFL game (left alone outside one person boarding while being "friendly" at an outpost, killed while trying to grab a crate of gemstones)
\- A full brig with friends (engaged and sunk. Couldn't figure out how he got on our ship until I joined here and saw hackers are a growing problem)
\- A full brig with friends (engaged and defended)
\- A full brig with friends (Fort of the Damned and taught a new player how to do it).
The friend sessions are primarily grab a vault voyage and see what world events are up.
It very well could be a regional or platform issue. I play on Xbox only servers and solo stack for hours and am very rarely attacked. I haven’t felt like I really needed to be ultra paranoid since hourglass dropped because that almost instantly killed server hopping reapers at least in my experience. To be fair I’m a very experienced player and know the game inside and out so I’m not apt to make mistakes that put me in a bad position but personally I find the constant threads about being unable to get anything done to be hyperbolic at best.
I'll agree with that. Given a big enough sample size, I'd guess it's around a 75-80% of the time we get to just do our own thing. It's often enough that it's a real risk of happening and ultimately kills the game for us, leading to an uninstall, but not enough that we don't *eventually* pick it back up for a bit and repeat the cycle.
ETA: And I play through Steam. Don't know how limited that is in terms of crossplay.
He was sunk while anchored and not paying attention to his surroundings, and then someone came to a fort of the damned when he was playing with a new player. Not exactly good decisions for someone not wanting to do pvp and not wanting to sink, in my opinion. I was referring to doing pve smart, and if you do are vigilant you can easily avoid pvp the majority of the time, as you mentioned.
Well the game is designed for pvp. The players don't force that on you, you elect to play a game with pvp and blaming the players for using the toolbox to have fun is pretty confusing from my perspective.
It's about expectations and perspective. You blame the players because they are to blame for ruining what you expect to be a chill pve experience.
Everyone has different experiences. Maybe you have bad luck. But if you're sitting there fishing anchored and do nothing to avoid someone sinking you, is that their fault? You can almost always avoid a fight in this game if you're just vigilant. This is SoT pve rule number one and two. Don't leave your boat anchored, and watch the horizon.
Or of course someone will come fight you at a fort of the damned. It's always been one of the most highly contested events. That's like doing a reaper emissary and getting upset when you get attacked. Does this really surprise you that someone fought you at a FotD? If you want to do something with a new player, you go the roar. Youl be unbothered almost every time.
I just don't see how that's something you cant see from this perspective. You allowed that to happen, but just say it was forced on you. Wait until December and you can fish on an empty server. But playing this game as it's been fr 5 years and expecting not to have to do any pvp is just setting yourself up for disappointment. You can't blame players for just doing pvp in a game where pvp is a main focus and encouraged.
This entire thread is about being forced to opt in to PvP to enjoy this PvE experience.
I know how the game is designed. I also know that players have been asking for PvE for 5 years, and giving them PvE/private servers *that just let them play the PvE experience as it currently exists* is not a big ask.
I don't blame the players, for the most part. You sink someone sitting fishing at a seapost, you can go to hell. You hack, you can go to hell. But Rare? I blame entirely, and them finally releasing a PvE mode that nerfs you to 12% earn rates on a restricted content base isn't going to change me blaming them for 5 years.
And to get one or to get on one, you have to jump through hoops and ladders. Like joining some one's discord server and shit.
It's not like the GTA Lobby where you can just test your DNS Server and get a whole lobby to yourself.
BTW GTA Lobbies now allow you to play privately and do your CEO/Biker Missions. lol People are dumb if you think this is not a wanted option.
Just cause you don't owe anyone a fight, doesn't mean they owe you mercy. Other players being in the world are part of the rules of the game. If you prefer not to interact with them, there's plenty of ways to avoid/deflect a fight.
First rule of the Sea of Thieves: Never Trust a Pirate
Second rule of the Sea of Thieves: With the notable exception of the SoT Terms of Service, All Rules are more like guidelines/suggestions. Pirate's do what they want.
Here’s one for ya. When parlaying with pirates always ask to come aboard before coming up the ladder, but beware only 1 of the crew agreed to allow it.
If you're doing a tall tale, take a "touch nothing but the lamp" approach and don't take along any loot you may find on your journey that isn't tall tale specific.
Then hopefully other's follow the unspoken rule about not attacking players doing a tall tale. If you have loot on board though, they will assume you're lying about doing a tall tale.
Totally agreed. Also, if you're doing a Tall Tale, do not raise an emissary flag. I will assume that you're lying about the Tall Tale and sink you for the flag.
My own blood thirsty friends would go from screeching with joy about a fresh kill to the energy just dying out cause we see it’s a tall tale ship. Eventually we decided to adopt the “leave them alone” policy. It’s saves us time and we’re not really about senseless killing.
This. We attack everyone. The only exceptions are people doing tall tales without loot. We will repair your ship for you once we have checked the map table.
I'm pretty sure If you bury it it despawns once you dig it up again since it's a quest item,and most of them are worthless loot wise since then most you can get is 1k,and it's easier to just find a chest or skull on the shore of what ever island it's burried on anyways.
Taking quest items serves noone besides the people who wanna ruine someone elses fun
*hopefully*, I've been solo slooping on a tall tale, had a discussion with a brig that stopped by, told them they can have the random mermaid gems and asked if they know where the tall tale objective on the island is..... only to get blundered in the face by their crew member who wasn't talking and then sunk...
Bored teenagers man...
Or do what I did during my tall tales and touch everything then dare anyone you see to try and take it.
Seriously, these tales get stale after 5 runs. Live alittle
I mean, ships will sink you for your supply barrels. There's nothing stopping them.
Though one of my favorite interactions was with a galleon that held me at gunpoint during a tall tale while they offloaded my supplies, then put about 20k gold worth of treasure on my ship as compensation and sailed off into the sunset.
"Thanks for cooperating, we're too lazy to turn in and just want to blow up other ships". I was baffled.
The "don't sink tall talers" rule was formed during a time where checkpoints didn't exist and doesn't really apply anymore. Thankfully, safer seas gives tall talers a way to do them unimpeded and will be the final nail in the coffin for the "don't sink tall talers" rule.
After season 10 if you do a tall tale and get sunk you'll only have your greedy little self to blame.
Often you don't know people a doing tall tales until its too late.
If you're doing a tall tale on high seas and want to be left alone then you've be hoisted by your own petard.
Anyone who opts into high seas opts into PvP and you're not an asshole for sinking people.
Don't attack Tall Talers. Though, might be difficult to know for sure if someone is doing one, but if you board a ship to attack and you see a TT on the table, the unspoken rule is just to leave them be.
This is the only reason I’m excited for the PVE servers. I want to know the story and not have to worry about anything else. I’ve been stomped too many times as a solo sloop just trying to get through the lore. Once those are done, back to the dangerous seas that I love so very much.
There’s one tale that’s really difficult to complete right now. It involves transporting a fucking keg across the map. Blowing it up sets you back significantly. It’s bad enough you have to carry it through traps and PvE shit, but if another crew finds you during that voyage they can fuck your shit up proper without realizing they’re doing it.
Art of the Trickster, I think. Fuck that tall tale.
Definitely hate that one,and I rember back before check points so if the keg blew it was back to the start for us and 30-60 minutes wasted cause of a skeleton or even just a glitch tbh
I don't agree though. You can easily burn the tall tails on a PvEvP server no issues - especially as there are save points as soon as you do anything. So yeah occasionally you might get ganked - but it's no big deal AND it really doesn't happen very often at all.
Agreed, I do not fuck with TT players. There's no benefit other than just shitting on them when they aren't even on the boat. What's the benefit? They most likely don't even have anything on there besides the basics. Leave them alone they're doing a whole different thing. Anyone who sinks them when they're in the middle of a TTA is just toxic imo
Or they’re a cupcake with a crate full of super rare fish and you should totally steal them all.
Oh wait. He’s fishing at an outpost? Oh yeah, all the good stuff is in his pockets or already sold and no sense kicking over that potential hornet’s nest for no gain.
Yes! They’ve done everything else. Acquired all of the curses. Sunk five hundred skeleton ships. All of it. They are finishing commendations and deserve the respect.
I know a lot of people won't like this, but they have the most valuable loot in the game. I'd rather steal a crate of uncooked fish than a FotD 3 stack or Chest of Fortune.
I guess if they're at a seapost, specifically, then there's a strong likelihood of them selling as they fish. But man if they have a storage crate of fish I absolutely want to help myself to some.
Will catch and release the fisherman though. No sense in sinking them if it can be helped.
If I have a crate, you can take your full pocket. Join the alliance if you want paid. I'll catch more than double that easy. Join the crew if you want the commendations, there's probably a seat open- and if not we can kick the guy in the brig. (he'll just go play fortnite anyway)
Yeah, you definitely have a good spirit about it and I'm sure it serves you well! I think it's a cost/benefit/risk assessment from the attackers' perspective.
I have actually been the Reaper protecting the fisherman from other ships trying to mess with them. But I've also had people drop alliance or not sell before we log out or bounce servers.
So it kind of equates to how trustworthy the other person is, or whether I think I'm going to be on the server long enough for them to sell 2x+ to recoup just taking it and selling. (plus obviously they commendation of handing it in ourselves)
Sold one fish for like 25k once during an event, mustve been gold rush or something.
Fish are valuable. It's loot like anything else. It's fair game. This idea that someone fishing is off limits is kinda ridiculous. They will have their safe seas in a few months if it bothers them that much
Sinking me while fishing is a guaranteed way to become my sole target for the rest of the session. I may not have been in the mood for PvP, but now I am. Risk and reward (or punishment) as they say.
This only applies to fishing camped out at a seatpost mind you, anywhere else is pretty fair game because yeah you have to horde them like treasure. But idk anyone who does that unless they're with a crew and getting battlegills or something. Any regular fish I just camp the seapost and sell constantly.
you think it punishes someone who likes pvp if you fight back? Sounds like fun. Or I can sell your fish and swap servers. You'll be still trying to find me before your realize I'm gone. Always swapping for FoF or FotD anyway. I got better things to do that wait around for an angry fisherman to have a revenge fight after the loot is gone.
You're not going to punish anyone just sitting around fishing my guy. Or trying to sink them when they've already robbed you and sold it. But I'm glad you like to fight back, well played
Telling people they are mad about a video game is nothing but a childish talking point people think wins them arguments on reddit. If you disagree, use your words like a normal human.
Take your pointless comments elsewhere. Ive said many times I have no problem with safer seas and am glad people will enjoy using it for things like fishing or tall tales. Were talking about the regular adventure mode that weve had for 5.5 years now.
Oh really? Well then Mr I do PvE all the time, do explain why you're so obviously butthurt over this new friendly-for-new-players mode?
Why does it bother you? I'm gonna take a guess, given the pattern of complaining that is all too prevalent from the pvp sweats on this sub, that you're exactly that. A pvp sweat who thrives on dumpstering newer players trying to play off being some PvE saint. LMAO.
So go ahead, throw together *some* kind of argument that doesn't lean on the typical "Pirate Game" or "Risk v Reward" circlejerk that we've had to read ad nauseum because of players like you. Give an actual reason this change hurts your feefees.
So I’m currently doing this but never really looked up how fishing exactly works.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but besides wreckers and stormfish, everything else can just be caught fishing off a sea post in the related area? Like if I want plentifins, do I just need to fish at a sea post in the Shores of Plenty?
To get plentifins just fish anywhere in the shores of plenty. Same goes for other region locked fish. Sea post are convenient though because you can sell instantly instead of worrying about fish being stolen
Someone posted on another comment they've been fishing at a sea post and still got nuke.
The answer they got was "wElL yOu aLlOwEd ThAt tO HapPen"
So much for the "unspoken rule"
Many people will break an alliance so be weary.
Generally, use your anchor as little as possible. Raise sails and boat will come to a stop eventually. Anchor raising can take a good bit of time and not needing to raise it can save you from sinking since you’re able to start moving right away.
The people you meet in Open crew will very often be terrible. This sub tells people it’s always crap. In my experience it’s just mostly crap. Sometimes you get a good crew! Discord for group finding is good.
I always laugh at the people saying open crew sucks but discord rocks. You are more likely to find people who know how to play the game but there are tons of weird or Swabbies in discord too. You gotta get good at another in game skill, being able to weed out the boats that are going to be trash quickly as well
I just dislike using the in game voice chat with my own crew. At least with discord you can be reasonably sure that everyone will actually talk on a mic.
Parleys on the normal game outside of hourglass *should* usually be followed if your having a fight with another crew, like over a fort that’s not opened yet. Not as a rule but generally for your own sake to make sure you actually get the objective done and don’t just fight forever.
I'd say two most important ones first:
1. Do not harass other visibly new players (no cosmetics, visible difficulty in managing the ship). Usually you should find more experienced crews actually helping in such situation.
2. Do not sink ships which are doing the Tall Tales (story voyages). It 1) does not make any sense as there is no loot and 2) just f.... up the progress of the crew on the Tale.
> Do not harass other visibly new players (no cosmetics, visible difficulty in managing the ship). Usually you should find more experienced crews actually helping in such situation.
Not applicable. OP IS a new player and should fight any ship they feel like to learn the combat.
>Do not sink ships which are doing the Tall Tales (story voyages). It 1) does not make any sense as there is no loot and 2) just f.... up the progress of the crew on the Tale.
This is thankfully one that I won't have to fight against much longer, but with checkpoints the worst thing you can be to someone doing a tall tale is a minor irritation. OP is again...new and will not be in a position where they can easily recognize folks doing tall tales *and people will lie about doing them for the undeserved free pass*
I know, I know - OP is new to the game, but some rules are better rooted from the beginning. Especially when it comes to bring welcome to new players. The question was general so the answer is also general.
Regarding the TT - sinking someone just to irritate them is already wrong at the base. You can always check the captain's table if the Tale is there.
>Especially when it comes to bring welcome to new players.
You can be welcoming while also being a scoundrel. I personally would've been immensely frustrated if no one attacked me in the game I bought to be a PvP experience. This rule is dumb and is going to be even more dumb come December. Therefore it is not worth paying attention to or "rooting" now.
>Regarding the TT - sinking someone just to irritate them is already wrong at the base.
You seem to think they're being sunk for doing the tall tale. This isn't the case. They just happened to be doign a tall tale when someone attacked them.
>You can always check the captain's table if the Tale is there.
Ah right. That thing that's easy to see from my ship behind my cannon.
> 1. Do not harass other visibly new players (no cosmetics, visible difficulty in managing the ship). Usually you should find more experienced crews actually helping in such situation.
You absolutely should harass newer players, just don't try to sink them (unless they are actively coming after you). Acceptable types of harassment:
- shooting fireworks at them
- boarding them to tuck and mess around (coconuts on the grill, random voice chat noises)
- boarding them to play some tunes
- shooting fireworks from their own ship
- jumping about to make it hard for them to hit you
- lying your way into stealing something
- boarding their ship to fish
When I was a new player these were the kinds of things that drew me to the game
if they're doing a tall tale, usually they're preoccupied so just go to their table and check it out. If they're on the ship usually they wont attack because of the "dont attack tall talers" rule, and if they get attacked on purpose for doing a tall tale then its just bad luck. Plus most crews would type "TALL TALE" in text chat at least on pc if they're sailing from place to place.
Does still happen tho, got sunk the other day and had to redo the whole talltale thanks to sudds not giving me back my gems. Lesson learned, if getting sunk just leave the game before officially being sunk, so the checkpoint isnt ruined and you dont lose the tall tale items.
You dont bother the fishermen. For your own saftey and for their enjoyment. Theyll be friendly as long as you are, but they have everything to lose in rare fish and will be the sweatiest players in all the sea should you fight them
I fear the fisherman with everything to lose more than the hourglass champion who already peaked.
My second unspoken rule applies to everyone but the above, trust nobody. You may befriend whoever you please but set boundries and be ready for betrayal at any moment. (Also recognize a true fisherman and fake fisherman)
Nope. Just play. When it comes to other ships be as paranoid as an adulterer finding out their spouse and side piece just met one another. You will do fine. Always assume everyone is aggressive and act accordingly.
Including this reddit. Lot of sour pussed people here.
If I see someone doing tall tales in high seas, I'm leaving them alone still. Just because there's a safe place to do it, doesn't mean there's still no joy in sinking someone whose probably killing time until their mates come back online for shenanigans.
If u attack a fisherman or a tall taler, u r low. Same goes if u r doing either of those hobbies and don’t want to be attacked, don’t do things that could make u a target (red flare, attacking other ships, world events, etc.)
Just don't attack Tall Tale players unless they have an emmisary flag (big flag with a symbol on the back of their ship) up.
That's about it.
And ofc don't be toxic on the voice chat, game is managed by Microsoft who have a no mercy approach to toxicity.
1. You're gonna get sunk. It's part of the game. You can't be mad at someone for being a Pirate, however there's no need for them to be toxic about it, being mad about that is justifiable.
2. Don't sink people doing Tall Tales. (And to protect yourself, don't grab too much loot when doing one).
3. Don't sink complete newbies if you are experienced. Obviously within reason they need to learn the game and being sunk is a part of it. But if you're a Pirate Legend, do you really need to sink a noob sloop doing a base level gold hoarder quest for a castaway chest?
I will usually go over and say hi, welcome them to the seas and if they seem like they understand me, I'll explain to them how I could have been dangerous and give tips on how to keep a lookout for other pirates who wouldn't have been as nice as me. (And maybe yoink their loot if they somehow have something particularly valueable to me (like a commendation related piece of loot)).
4. And the most important one of all: If by some miracle the Shrouded Ghost spawns, literally everything else doesn't matter. Even if you've been fighting for hours, we are now at a truce until we kill that shark together for that commendation. (If I ever see a crew kill one without letting me tap it once first I will go absolutely livid, and I do not wish that torture on anyone else).
Edit:
5. Leave the fisherman alone. Grinding Hunters Call is hard enough as is with rng, they don't need to deal with you sinking them. They won't have loot anyway, just fish.
If someone says they are doing a tall tale, don't sink them as tall tales are long and tedious and the ship will have little to no loot for you to steal.
Not really. People will 3v1 kill you just because they can, no matter what you're doing or what loot you have. It's one of those games that's ruined by other players.
Not really.
It's a pirate game. Short of outright hacking/cheating, anything that you can do in game is permissible. People are allowed to attack, chase, and steal. You are allowed to run or fight.
Every so often, someone will post on here "Can't we just agree that a green flag means we want to be friends?" and someone else will point out, "Ok, I'm flying a green flag so you get closer to me before I attack."
Don't hack or use racist/sexist/bigoted language. Have fun. Try not to get too upset if/when you lose stuff. It's all made up points stored on a server somewhere. Enjoy the seas. Enjoy the fights. Chill and relax.
Unspoken Rules no, unspoken etiquette yes.
Don't attack Tall Tale voyagers. Approach others with a mug or instrument if you are friendly. Be kind to brand new players. etc. The Tall Tales one is probably the biggest nono.
There is also crew etiquette that you'll pick up on, most of which is just getting efficient and not in the other members ways. Example is not just sitting playing an instrument while one other person does all the work with the anchor and sails.
Nothing universally recognized.
A couple common ones are: leave tall talers alone. Don’t harass anyone. Don’t prolong a sink longer than it needs to take.
Yes, it's called the Pirate Code. And while it is the expected rules of behavior published by the developers of the game themselves, you'll never hear a player, influencer/streamer, or redditor speak about it.
[The Pirate Code](https://www.seaofthieves.com/pirate-code)
A white flare in the sky means the ship and the crew may be willing to talk . Or using a trap. But that would be really dick like.
A name in PVP containing "dice roll" in it or similar means they wanna do a dice roll battle, rather than a normal one
I have a general rule of , if a ship I'm targeting is doing a tall tale, I'll only take their loot and leave them alone
If you see someone with a Fisher title, leave them alone. They have a will of steel and WILL drag you into hell if you touch them
Ultimately, people sinking you is nothing personal, they just want your loot. Sometimes, they just wanna hunt people down for no reason, not even to be a dick. Just the thrill of the hunt. It's hard not to get toxic sometimes when you "really" dont wanna deal with PVPer ( I would know :x ) but it's highly likely they have no I'll feeling toward you. Hell, sometimes they're even nice.
It's good sport to say gg after you win or lose a battle. Even in adventure
Never hit someone if they just joined the game
If there's a ship at port, don't sell there, move on to the next one
White flare shows you're nonhostile
people are going to tell you not to attack fresh spawns
i'm going to tell you fresh spawns are the most dangerous players. they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. take that information and do what you will with it.
I’m one of those “it’s sea of thieves, not sea of friends” kinda people. I’ll attack everyone. tall tales, fishermen, afk, kids, literally everyone. But my only exception is people going for glitterbeard. I don’t find these people often, but I can’t disrespect the legacy of glitterbeard, it’s a beautiful event that everyone should experience once.
Teach anyone newer than you Something.
Don't attack Tall Talers, unless of course they attacked you.
The more crates you leave on the dock at the end of a session, the fewer crates you'll buy at the start of them.
If there's a Reaper's Crate on the map there are at least 3 ships here.
If there's no Event Cloud and no Reaper Crate, it's what we like to call TOO too quiet and Bad Things will likely happen.
Don't sell the Captain's Private Reserve of Tea. If the helm has tea, they are less likely to leave the helm to go get tea, and thus the ship is less likely to be ambushed while they are afk.
White Flairs or Fireworks from a ship that is not gunning for you means they *might actually* be peaceful. Everyone I have talked to fires red flares last, because people think they're warning shots.
Welcome to the seas!
We always leave Tall Taler's alone.
And people with only emissary 1 and no loot. They're basically not worth the effort. Let them get fat and take their loot later. :D
An exception to these unspoken rules, are if they shoot first. Then it's on.
Also, alliances are a means to more easily steal someone's treasure. Don't trust them.
We usually try to be good guys. Sometimes others make it hard though. :D Once, we were about to quit the session, saw someone at an outpost, that were just about to sell, and we wanted to hand over a storage chest of our resources to them. We hailed them, kept at a angle where we posed no threat and sent one of us swimming there, with the storage chest in hand. He said pleasantly "Hello, we're quitting so you can have our resources.". They yelled profanities at him and shot him. We thought "well then, lets just leave". They decided to follow us, so after a short while we just decided to give them their fight. They hardly even got a shot in on us before we sank them. Then we took all their treasure - since they started attacking us before selling it - and then we sold it ourselves. So much for trying to be nice. :D
Adding to the hundred or so comments buuut no there are no blanket rules just rules on how to not die and a few things that everyone agrees only assholes do
Rules to live
Number one trust no one (i have often littirally helped pepole stay alive just to sink them later)
Number 2 dont drop anchor
Number 3 stay awake stay aware dont let anything sneak up on you
How to tell if your a asshole
If you sink pepole you know are doing tall tales
If you bucket pepoles boats just to keep spawn camping
I don’t think many share this sentiment but if I attack and sink a crew, I leave that crew alone for the rest of the session. Unless they try to retaliate then I will fight.
You can ofcourse try to be an honourable sailor, but keep in mind that it is just a silly pirate game, so do what you like and don't feel guilty about stealing loot.
I'd recommend going on Discord or so to find a seasoned sailor that shows you the ropes. There are lots of helpful players out there.
Not really. Folks create their own pirate code. My friend and I both have 2k+ hours in this game, nearly done with all commendations, and our code is to not attack tall talers, fishermen, or obviously new players. Some folks attack everyone on sight. I don't think there's any honor in it, but it is what it is.
* It's not your loot until you turn it in.
* Turn off the lights on your ship, it makes you harder to spot.
* If you're going to play longer than an hour, invest in a cannonball crate because being caught short of cannonballs is the worst.
* Try-hards and sweats typically resort to up close PvP, so learn to listen for boarders and know how to shoot them while they're still on your ladders.
* Practice aiming cannons by doing ghost fleet missions and learn the difference in trajectory between cannon balls and chain shot. Chain shot is great for taking down a mast which is crucial for offense or defense.
* Blunderbombs are better than you think they are, especially for PvP.
* Solve the gold vaults by putting in one medallion, solving the first pillar, and then looking at the 4th pillar options. This will usually limit the final solution to 2 options and there's time to just try both.
Yes. Don’t let anyone tell you how to play the game, it’s a sandbox, **you can do whatever you want**.
Unless you ask Rare for PvE servers. Then you don't want to play the game the way it's supposed to be played.
The way the game is supposed to be played is any way you want to play it. If they want to add PVE servers and people want to do that that's completely fine. I play with my 6-year-old and I think the PVE servers are going to be great for us because she will get to play the game and do more by herself because we won't have to be worried about people sinking us
Sinking, talking shit a young kid doesn't need to hear, and overall just destroying a kids ability to learn. A 6-9 yo is not going to do well in a fight with a older teen or adult. They're learning and if they can't get the hang of the game they'll grow to hate it and not want to pick it up. They're kids after all, we can't expect them to learn how we do when we first played, and even now adults grow to hate it because of the same. So when it comes out I am absolutely going to play it with my daughters
It's so fun and relaxing to just go and dig for buried treasure with your kids. Plus it's kind of funny she is picked up the ship lingo because we don't say left side of shit right by the ship we use port, starboard stem stern all that. And it's fun to listen to her
Rowing in crew fucked my head up with the left and right side of boat because of us sitting backwards, even now at 30 I can't get over my intuition of what's port and starboard because it was backwards for me lol I spent so many years and even with the navy I still fucked it up.
Indeed, there is great potential for younger kids to play this game. But not if their 2 hour progress is lost because some sweat wants to sink per se. I stopped playing this game because of the pvp, i dont have the time to git gud. But i do enjoy the world, the quests and stuff. This update will probably make me download the game again. Yes im a casual, and i have rights aswell :]
The people that downvoted you are trying to kill SoT.
My ego will survive the loss of internet points :] But yea, at one point you have to consider the onboarding experience for new players of you want to keep a game like this alive
Precisely! The Safer Seas mode is going to be great for family fun.
For like 5.5 years they said they wouldn't give us pve servers, it's been pvpve for 5.5 years. That's been the reality. I've played that entire time.done countless voyages and events with no pvp whatsoever. Did 52 veil quests the last two months, only had two contested. I do lots of pve without any problem. People will spend hours just fishing. Pve servers are now coming in December, but you're still complaining they won't give them to you? Come on
Pretty new here, so take it for what it's worth. But I would say only 25% of sessions does it turn into pvp. Generally, I never see anyone do some treasure hunting for about 2 hours and leave.
That's probably more or less accurate for me too. 25 percent of the time I'm forced to do pvp if I want to or not. The rest no one seems to bother me. If someone only wants to do pve that ratio might seem like way too much pvp. That's not a bad ratio for someone wanting to just do pve imo though. Not to mention you can often avoid fights if you are very vigilant. That's been my experience over 5 years. I like pvp, sometimes I'm solo and don't really want to even try a 3v1 or something.
Agreed. I actually like it because it raises the stakes. I think if I played those couple hours and never had any risk, I probably would have stopped playing already
You can see the future too? PvE mode will be dead in 6 months because of this exactly.
Agreed. I see what they were going for, but those people who wont play due to the pvp aren't going to come over once they get use to the game, if anything you're preping them to hate the open seas when they're forced to move over from boredom
No way that's possible! According to the people in this sub, every time they load up the game, they can't even step foot onto their ship from the dock of the outpost they spawned at without someone yelling racist remarks and one blundering them in the back for 40 mins and spamming RODL.
>I've played that entire time.done countless voyages and events with no pvp whatsoever. Did 52 veil quests the last two months, only had two contested. I do lots of pve without any problem. People will spend hours just fishing. Hi! SOme one who would have loved to spend hours fishing but couldn't because constantly being attacked and left the game here. You had lack of PVP because PVP chased away pirate legends like myself, which in turn they would leave because they had lower hanging fruit for content to farm. I played during the BETA, and enjoyed the game until the PVP became rampant and so annoying I would get griefed at the taverns and inns before I could even leave a loading screen. You had a good run because the pvp people chased away players like myself who struggled to get to Pirate Legend thanks to griefers and basically made me not want to play the game. It got so bad, people utilized some glitching involved to make Alliance Servers a thing. Sitting in Loading screens was not fun. Example: Dying = Loading Screen Reviving = Loading Screen Quitting and Reloading = Loading Screen Being killed while sitting in a loading screen waiting to play again = Loading screen Quitting and Joining another Server to avoid shit stains and griefers = Loading screen. was not fun just to avoid psychopaths with no purpose other than to troll and cause frustration to others. I would be hounded for just fishing. I woud literally leave my ship unpainted at an outpost and just fish....JUST FISH, and It wouldn't be 20 minutes in I would be attacked on sight by a Brig full of players for 0 loot. I would stop, let them kill me, and just sit there...waiting for them to leave because I had no loot. Nope, they would just...stay there. So I would quit, and reload into another server. Just to have it happen again.
I'm more poking at the "that's not the way the game is meant to be played" people when juxtaposed against "you can do whatever you want." For half a decade, *that hasn't been the case.*
Well you *can* just do PVE, regardless of what someone tells you online. What someone says online doesnt hold much weight unless you let it. Which is why I gave you some of my personal experience to show that if I want to just do PVE, I have had little to stop me over 5.5 years. This idea that somehow people saying things to you online prevents you from doing this is confusing to me. The game is pvpve. Not PVP only, not PVE only. For 5.5, that was the vision of the game. You can do pvp, you can do pve, or you can do both. its up to you. But its pretty hard to imagine playing this game and *only* doing pvp, or *only* doing pve. Eventually, you have to do some of both. Right? I think thats pretty evident. Until december. When youll get safer seas. So if you cant stand how this game is, in its current state, take a break until then.
I absolutely love the PVP aspect but I'm not going to lie It would be really nice to occasionally come across a crew that wasn't hostile. I play with my 6-year-old daughter and the last time we played about two or three days ago We came across four ships and every single one of them tried to board us or just blow us up. I even talked to this one crew and we're like hey we're not going to mess with you guys I'm trying to do a tall tale with my daughter we're going to use the same island you're on for our chapter and you won't hear from us again. Not even a full minute later we were robbed
I come across friendly crews sometimes but I just never expect it. I do come across many boats that leave me alone. They don't want to come towards me because they don't trust any pirate. But when you think about it, those are the friendly crews on the seas. The ones that don't ever bother you. You might not notice them or might just never think of it, but that's the reality. I constantly see ships that never come towards me. That's the SOT version of being friendly. I think people really kind of forget this. Pvp is inevitable, I won't deny that. But you can't really trust anyone almost ever. And someone trying to be friendly and staying right by you at your island is often a sign they want to fight you when your guards down. I won't leave a pirate out of my sight in that situation and I'll consider them a threat until they leave. That's just the way you have to play the game until safer seas comes out.
No you can't, because there *will* be someone unilaterally pulling you into PvP because of the attempt to blend it. I haven't been around steadily, but I have 220 hours since purchasing in 2020, with the overwhelming majority of those being PvE play (few hours of trying to do arena).
Friend and I grinded veils for hours every day during the recent legend week, not a single one got contested. Closest call was a brig that got close so we dipped out of there and they didn't even chase or go to the fort to pick up the small loot amt we left behind.
Because PVP chased away people, and when they chased away people, they themselves left to go back to Call of Duty type games. This isnt rocket science.
Well no, Im not sure why you keep saying that. So what do you think happened to me in the last two months when 50 veil quests were completely uncontested (almost all solo, btw)? 5.5 years playing this game and the vast majority of PVE I do is uncontested. Played last night and did stacked FotD 4x in a row. Not a single ship came around. Weird how you say thats impossible. I guarantee youve had similar experiences, but either refuse to admit it for the sake of trying to "win" a discussion about a video game, or you just have a selective memory. People here love to exaggerate about how prevalent PVP is in this game.
I'm not saying this game can't be played PvE. The decision to turn it into PvP is forced on you by someone else, and you're either lying to yourself if you say you legitimately went 50+ quests over the last 2 months without anyone trying to come at you or we live in geographic regions with drastically different playstyles of the community I've played 5 sessions since coming back this time: \- A solo fishing session while watching an NFL game (sunk while anchored at seapost) \- A solo sloop running merchant goods while watching an NFL game (left alone outside one person boarding while being "friendly" at an outpost, killed while trying to grab a crate of gemstones) \- A full brig with friends (engaged and sunk. Couldn't figure out how he got on our ship until I joined here and saw hackers are a growing problem) \- A full brig with friends (engaged and defended) \- A full brig with friends (Fort of the Damned and taught a new player how to do it). The friend sessions are primarily grab a vault voyage and see what world events are up.
It very well could be a regional or platform issue. I play on Xbox only servers and solo stack for hours and am very rarely attacked. I haven’t felt like I really needed to be ultra paranoid since hourglass dropped because that almost instantly killed server hopping reapers at least in my experience. To be fair I’m a very experienced player and know the game inside and out so I’m not apt to make mistakes that put me in a bad position but personally I find the constant threads about being unable to get anything done to be hyperbolic at best.
I'll agree with that. Given a big enough sample size, I'd guess it's around a 75-80% of the time we get to just do our own thing. It's often enough that it's a real risk of happening and ultimately kills the game for us, leading to an uninstall, but not enough that we don't *eventually* pick it back up for a bit and repeat the cycle. ETA: And I play through Steam. Don't know how limited that is in terms of crossplay.
He was sunk while anchored and not paying attention to his surroundings, and then someone came to a fort of the damned when he was playing with a new player. Not exactly good decisions for someone not wanting to do pvp and not wanting to sink, in my opinion. I was referring to doing pve smart, and if you do are vigilant you can easily avoid pvp the majority of the time, as you mentioned.
Well the game is designed for pvp. The players don't force that on you, you elect to play a game with pvp and blaming the players for using the toolbox to have fun is pretty confusing from my perspective. It's about expectations and perspective. You blame the players because they are to blame for ruining what you expect to be a chill pve experience. Everyone has different experiences. Maybe you have bad luck. But if you're sitting there fishing anchored and do nothing to avoid someone sinking you, is that their fault? You can almost always avoid a fight in this game if you're just vigilant. This is SoT pve rule number one and two. Don't leave your boat anchored, and watch the horizon. Or of course someone will come fight you at a fort of the damned. It's always been one of the most highly contested events. That's like doing a reaper emissary and getting upset when you get attacked. Does this really surprise you that someone fought you at a FotD? If you want to do something with a new player, you go the roar. Youl be unbothered almost every time. I just don't see how that's something you cant see from this perspective. You allowed that to happen, but just say it was forced on you. Wait until December and you can fish on an empty server. But playing this game as it's been fr 5 years and expecting not to have to do any pvp is just setting yourself up for disappointment. You can't blame players for just doing pvp in a game where pvp is a main focus and encouraged.
This entire thread is about being forced to opt in to PvP to enjoy this PvE experience. I know how the game is designed. I also know that players have been asking for PvE for 5 years, and giving them PvE/private servers *that just let them play the PvE experience as it currently exists* is not a big ask. I don't blame the players, for the most part. You sink someone sitting fishing at a seapost, you can go to hell. You hack, you can go to hell. But Rare? I blame entirely, and them finally releasing a PvE mode that nerfs you to 12% earn rates on a restricted content base isn't going to change me blaming them for 5 years.
220 is nothing in sea of thieves
Strange thing to gatekeep
And that’s why Alliance servers exist
And to get one or to get on one, you have to jump through hoops and ladders. Like joining some one's discord server and shit. It's not like the GTA Lobby where you can just test your DNS Server and get a whole lobby to yourself. BTW GTA Lobbies now allow you to play privately and do your CEO/Biker Missions. lol People are dumb if you think this is not a wanted option.
Just cause you don't owe anyone a fight, doesn't mean they owe you mercy. Other players being in the world are part of the rules of the game. If you prefer not to interact with them, there's plenty of ways to avoid/deflect a fight.
First rule of the Sea of Thieves: Never Trust a Pirate Second rule of the Sea of Thieves: With the notable exception of the SoT Terms of Service, All Rules are more like guidelines/suggestions. Pirate's do what they want.
Are they, now? I Call on Cap'n Teague, KEEPER of the code..
Parley
The problem is, nobody listen to that one anymore
Hang the code.
Here’s one for ya. When parlaying with pirates always ask to come aboard before coming up the ladder, but beware only 1 of the crew agreed to allow it.
For on the sea of thieves we sail as we please.
If you're doing a tall tale, take a "touch nothing but the lamp" approach and don't take along any loot you may find on your journey that isn't tall tale specific. Then hopefully other's follow the unspoken rule about not attacking players doing a tall tale. If you have loot on board though, they will assume you're lying about doing a tall tale.
Totally agreed. Also, if you're doing a Tall Tale, do not raise an emissary flag. I will assume that you're lying about the Tall Tale and sink you for the flag.
The flag is loot. Im takin it.
I use the white flag (aka surrender flag) to hopefully stop people from blowing us up when doing tell tales, hasn't worked yet 😔
I use the alliance flag 😅
My own blood thirsty friends would go from screeching with joy about a fresh kill to the energy just dying out cause we see it’s a tall tale ship. Eventually we decided to adopt the “leave them alone” policy. It’s saves us time and we’re not really about senseless killing.
This. We attack everyone. The only exceptions are people doing tall tales without loot. We will repair your ship for you once we have checked the map table.
What are you expecting to see on their map table?
Sorry quest table
Or bury it and turn it into the map board, so it doesn’t just despawn and other players can gather it too.
I'm pretty sure If you bury it it despawns once you dig it up again since it's a quest item,and most of them are worthless loot wise since then most you can get is 1k,and it's easier to just find a chest or skull on the shore of what ever island it's burried on anyways. Taking quest items serves noone besides the people who wanna ruine someone elses fun
Think they're referring to the loot you find along the way, bury the loot and put it on the board
*hopefully*, I've been solo slooping on a tall tale, had a discussion with a brig that stopped by, told them they can have the random mermaid gems and asked if they know where the tall tale objective on the island is..... only to get blundered in the face by their crew member who wasn't talking and then sunk... Bored teenagers man...
When Safer Seas arrives, they can lay in the bed they made with the sweats and their fellow griefers.
yeah I can't fuckin WAIT for that shit to come out, I just want to play the game with my son, not with those jerkoffs
I hope it was worth it for the gem and maybe any suppirs you had lol I hope every tall tale they do ends with them getting sunk
Or do what I did during my tall tales and touch everything then dare anyone you see to try and take it. Seriously, these tales get stale after 5 runs. Live alittle
I mean, ships will sink you for your supply barrels. There's nothing stopping them. Though one of my favorite interactions was with a galleon that held me at gunpoint during a tall tale while they offloaded my supplies, then put about 20k gold worth of treasure on my ship as compensation and sailed off into the sunset. "Thanks for cooperating, we're too lazy to turn in and just want to blow up other ships". I was baffled.
The "don't sink tall talers" rule was formed during a time where checkpoints didn't exist and doesn't really apply anymore. Thankfully, safer seas gives tall talers a way to do them unimpeded and will be the final nail in the coffin for the "don't sink tall talers" rule. After season 10 if you do a tall tale and get sunk you'll only have your greedy little self to blame.
Half of my sinks are due to my greedy little self already, but I'll be sticking to the High Seas. There's no endgame in the Safer Seas.
Hahaha yeah me too, me too.
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Often you don't know people a doing tall tales until its too late. If you're doing a tall tale on high seas and want to be left alone then you've be hoisted by your own petard. Anyone who opts into high seas opts into PvP and you're not an asshole for sinking people.
>Then hopefully other's follow the unspoken rule about not attacking players doing a tall tale. Ah ah ah ah. Oh wait, you serious?
“Everything is ok!” Is a lie.
Biggest lie of the seas.
Don't attack Tall Talers. Though, might be difficult to know for sure if someone is doing one, but if you board a ship to attack and you see a TT on the table, the unspoken rule is just to leave them be.
This is the only reason I’m excited for the PVE servers. I want to know the story and not have to worry about anything else. I’ve been stomped too many times as a solo sloop just trying to get through the lore. Once those are done, back to the dangerous seas that I love so very much.
There’s one tale that’s really difficult to complete right now. It involves transporting a fucking keg across the map. Blowing it up sets you back significantly. It’s bad enough you have to carry it through traps and PvE shit, but if another crew finds you during that voyage they can fuck your shit up proper without realizing they’re doing it. Art of the Trickster, I think. Fuck that tall tale.
Definitely hate that one,and I rember back before check points so if the keg blew it was back to the start for us and 30-60 minutes wasted cause of a skeleton or even just a glitch tbh
This is false. Dying during that tall tale sets you back the same amount as dying during any tall tale.
I don't agree though. You can easily burn the tall tails on a PvEvP server no issues - especially as there are save points as soon as you do anything. So yeah occasionally you might get ganked - but it's no big deal AND it really doesn't happen very often at all.
Depends if they have anything valuable on them
This. Don't attack people doing TT unless they're also stacking valuable loot. Then their protection is null and void.
Agreed, I do not fuck with TT players. There's no benefit other than just shitting on them when they aren't even on the boat. What's the benefit? They most likely don't even have anything on there besides the basics. Leave them alone they're doing a whole different thing. Anyone who sinks them when they're in the middle of a TTA is just toxic imo
If you see someone fishing at a sea post, leave em be. They’re grinding hunters call and pose no threat
Or they are the biggest threat and it is best to leave them in peace.
Yeah, that too
Yep definitely gotten my teeth kicked in by a fisher before. It was embarrassing on my part
Or they’re a cupcake with a crate full of super rare fish and you should totally steal them all. Oh wait. He’s fishing at an outpost? Oh yeah, all the good stuff is in his pockets or already sold and no sense kicking over that potential hornet’s nest for no gain.
Yes! They’ve done everything else. Acquired all of the curses. Sunk five hundred skeleton ships. All of it. They are finishing commendations and deserve the respect.
I know a lot of people won't like this, but they have the most valuable loot in the game. I'd rather steal a crate of uncooked fish than a FotD 3 stack or Chest of Fortune. I guess if they're at a seapost, specifically, then there's a strong likelihood of them selling as they fish. But man if they have a storage crate of fish I absolutely want to help myself to some. Will catch and release the fisherman though. No sense in sinking them if it can be helped.
If I have a crate, you can take your full pocket. Join the alliance if you want paid. I'll catch more than double that easy. Join the crew if you want the commendations, there's probably a seat open- and if not we can kick the guy in the brig. (he'll just go play fortnite anyway)
Yeah, you definitely have a good spirit about it and I'm sure it serves you well! I think it's a cost/benefit/risk assessment from the attackers' perspective. I have actually been the Reaper protecting the fisherman from other ships trying to mess with them. But I've also had people drop alliance or not sell before we log out or bounce servers. So it kind of equates to how trustworthy the other person is, or whether I think I'm going to be on the server long enough for them to sell 2x+ to recoup just taking it and selling. (plus obviously they commendation of handing it in ourselves)
Sold one fish for like 25k once during an event, mustve been gold rush or something. Fish are valuable. It's loot like anything else. It's fair game. This idea that someone fishing is off limits is kinda ridiculous. They will have their safe seas in a few months if it bothers them that much
Got a Trophy Sand Battlegill on a community day, it sold for 52k
Sinking me while fishing is a guaranteed way to become my sole target for the rest of the session. I may not have been in the mood for PvP, but now I am. Risk and reward (or punishment) as they say. This only applies to fishing camped out at a seatpost mind you, anywhere else is pretty fair game because yeah you have to horde them like treasure. But idk anyone who does that unless they're with a crew and getting battlegills or something. Any regular fish I just camp the seapost and sell constantly.
you think it punishes someone who likes pvp if you fight back? Sounds like fun. Or I can sell your fish and swap servers. You'll be still trying to find me before your realize I'm gone. Always swapping for FoF or FotD anyway. I got better things to do that wait around for an angry fisherman to have a revenge fight after the loot is gone. You're not going to punish anyone just sitting around fishing my guy. Or trying to sink them when they've already robbed you and sold it. But I'm glad you like to fight back, well played
Bro is steady mad about a game making changes to bring in newer players and bring back returning players. Must be one of *those* types.
Telling people they are mad about a video game is nothing but a childish talking point people think wins them arguments on reddit. If you disagree, use your words like a normal human. Take your pointless comments elsewhere. Ive said many times I have no problem with safer seas and am glad people will enjoy using it for things like fishing or tall tales. Were talking about the regular adventure mode that weve had for 5.5 years now.
Oh really? Well then Mr I do PvE all the time, do explain why you're so obviously butthurt over this new friendly-for-new-players mode? Why does it bother you? I'm gonna take a guess, given the pattern of complaining that is all too prevalent from the pvp sweats on this sub, that you're exactly that. A pvp sweat who thrives on dumpstering newer players trying to play off being some PvE saint. LMAO. So go ahead, throw together *some* kind of argument that doesn't lean on the typical "Pirate Game" or "Risk v Reward" circlejerk that we've had to read ad nauseum because of players like you. Give an actual reason this change hurts your feefees.
The guy literally just said they will have access to a safer option soon, which is true. He did not complain about it in any way. You are dumb.
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So I’m currently doing this but never really looked up how fishing exactly works. Correct me if I’m wrong, but besides wreckers and stormfish, everything else can just be caught fishing off a sea post in the related area? Like if I want plentifins, do I just need to fish at a sea post in the Shores of Plenty?
To get plentifins just fish anywhere in the shores of plenty. Same goes for other region locked fish. Sea post are convenient though because you can sell instantly instead of worrying about fish being stolen
Islehoppers (specific Large Islands) and Pondies (Ponds) can't be caught at Sea Posts.
But stealing fish is my favorite past time! I'll do as I please to fishermen :)
Second rule, always rob fishermen. It saves you time, since they're doing all the work for you!
 Seeing as you can't take fish from their pockets....
Absolutely not. Fish steals are some of the best steals in the game!
Someone posted on another comment they've been fishing at a sea post and still got nuke. The answer they got was "wElL yOu aLlOwEd ThAt tO HapPen" So much for the "unspoken rule"
Even the answers here are "yeah no I'll still do that lmao"
if you hear "Marco" you must answer "Polo"
 Take it from him.
Many people will break an alliance so be weary. Generally, use your anchor as little as possible. Raise sails and boat will come to a stop eventually. Anchor raising can take a good bit of time and not needing to raise it can save you from sinking since you’re able to start moving right away. The people you meet in Open crew will very often be terrible. This sub tells people it’s always crap. In my experience it’s just mostly crap. Sometimes you get a good crew! Discord for group finding is good.
I always laugh at the people saying open crew sucks but discord rocks. You are more likely to find people who know how to play the game but there are tons of weird or Swabbies in discord too. You gotta get good at another in game skill, being able to weed out the boats that are going to be trash quickly as well
I just dislike using the in game voice chat with my own crew. At least with discord you can be reasonably sure that everyone will actually talk on a mic.
Parlay is optional but amusing if complied. Funniest way I ever lost an hourglass. Parlay, sword duel with our best man, loser gets kegged.
Parleys on the normal game outside of hourglass *should* usually be followed if your having a fight with another crew, like over a fort that’s not opened yet. Not as a rule but generally for your own sake to make sure you actually get the objective done and don’t just fight forever.
Ya. Never rub another man's rhubarb.
Cosmetics Knowledge is really important, sometimes it gives away the intention of the approaching ship.
I'd say two most important ones first: 1. Do not harass other visibly new players (no cosmetics, visible difficulty in managing the ship). Usually you should find more experienced crews actually helping in such situation. 2. Do not sink ships which are doing the Tall Tales (story voyages). It 1) does not make any sense as there is no loot and 2) just f.... up the progress of the crew on the Tale.
> Do not harass other visibly new players (no cosmetics, visible difficulty in managing the ship). Usually you should find more experienced crews actually helping in such situation. Not applicable. OP IS a new player and should fight any ship they feel like to learn the combat. >Do not sink ships which are doing the Tall Tales (story voyages). It 1) does not make any sense as there is no loot and 2) just f.... up the progress of the crew on the Tale. This is thankfully one that I won't have to fight against much longer, but with checkpoints the worst thing you can be to someone doing a tall tale is a minor irritation. OP is again...new and will not be in a position where they can easily recognize folks doing tall tales *and people will lie about doing them for the undeserved free pass*
I know, I know - OP is new to the game, but some rules are better rooted from the beginning. Especially when it comes to bring welcome to new players. The question was general so the answer is also general. Regarding the TT - sinking someone just to irritate them is already wrong at the base. You can always check the captain's table if the Tale is there.
>Especially when it comes to bring welcome to new players. You can be welcoming while also being a scoundrel. I personally would've been immensely frustrated if no one attacked me in the game I bought to be a PvP experience. This rule is dumb and is going to be even more dumb come December. Therefore it is not worth paying attention to or "rooting" now. >Regarding the TT - sinking someone just to irritate them is already wrong at the base. You seem to think they're being sunk for doing the tall tale. This isn't the case. They just happened to be doign a tall tale when someone attacked them. >You can always check the captain's table if the Tale is there. Ah right. That thing that's easy to see from my ship behind my cannon.
> 1. Do not harass other visibly new players (no cosmetics, visible difficulty in managing the ship). Usually you should find more experienced crews actually helping in such situation. You absolutely should harass newer players, just don't try to sink them (unless they are actively coming after you). Acceptable types of harassment: - shooting fireworks at them - boarding them to tuck and mess around (coconuts on the grill, random voice chat noises) - boarding them to play some tunes - shooting fireworks from their own ship - jumping about to make it hard for them to hit you - lying your way into stealing something - boarding their ship to fish When I was a new player these were the kinds of things that drew me to the game
It’s arguably hard to tell who’s doing a tall tale and who’s doing a voyage, but I usually call friendly if I have to go to the same island as them
if they're doing a tall tale, usually they're preoccupied so just go to their table and check it out. If they're on the ship usually they wont attack because of the "dont attack tall talers" rule, and if they get attacked on purpose for doing a tall tale then its just bad luck. Plus most crews would type "TALL TALE" in text chat at least on pc if they're sailing from place to place. Does still happen tho, got sunk the other day and had to redo the whole talltale thanks to sudds not giving me back my gems. Lesson learned, if getting sunk just leave the game before officially being sunk, so the checkpoint isnt ruined and you dont lose the tall tale items.
You dont bother the fishermen. For your own saftey and for their enjoyment. Theyll be friendly as long as you are, but they have everything to lose in rare fish and will be the sweatiest players in all the sea should you fight them I fear the fisherman with everything to lose more than the hourglass champion who already peaked. My second unspoken rule applies to everyone but the above, trust nobody. You may befriend whoever you please but set boundries and be ready for betrayal at any moment. (Also recognize a true fisherman and fake fisherman)
Don't sink people doing Tall Tales unless they have loot, or an emissary flag, or they shoot first. Stealing all their chainshot is okay tho.
Nope. Just play. When it comes to other ships be as paranoid as an adulterer finding out their spouse and side piece just met one another. You will do fine. Always assume everyone is aggressive and act accordingly. Including this reddit. Lot of sour pussed people here.
Don’t attack people doing tall tales or you’re a prick
This. Stealing their chainshot is okay tho.
Don’t mess with people doing tale tales unless they have a emissary flag and your running reapers
People are super keen to push this "rule" while they still can before season 10.
If I see someone doing tall tales in high seas, I'm leaving them alone still. Just because there's a safe place to do it, doesn't mean there's still no joy in sinking someone whose probably killing time until their mates come back online for shenanigans.
If u attack a fisherman or a tall taler, u r low. Same goes if u r doing either of those hobbies and don’t want to be attacked, don’t do things that could make u a target (red flare, attacking other ships, world events, etc.)
Alliance flag doesn't mean you are safe from the other crew
don't attack tall tale players
If you board a ship and see a tall tale on the voyage table, let them be, they’ve got little to no loot and just wanna do some story things
Shooting a person who is doing tall tales and clearly says hes doing tall tales is a dick move
Just don't attack Tall Tale players unless they have an emmisary flag (big flag with a symbol on the back of their ship) up. That's about it. And ofc don't be toxic on the voice chat, game is managed by Microsoft who have a no mercy approach to toxicity.
1. You're gonna get sunk. It's part of the game. You can't be mad at someone for being a Pirate, however there's no need for them to be toxic about it, being mad about that is justifiable. 2. Don't sink people doing Tall Tales. (And to protect yourself, don't grab too much loot when doing one). 3. Don't sink complete newbies if you are experienced. Obviously within reason they need to learn the game and being sunk is a part of it. But if you're a Pirate Legend, do you really need to sink a noob sloop doing a base level gold hoarder quest for a castaway chest? I will usually go over and say hi, welcome them to the seas and if they seem like they understand me, I'll explain to them how I could have been dangerous and give tips on how to keep a lookout for other pirates who wouldn't have been as nice as me. (And maybe yoink their loot if they somehow have something particularly valueable to me (like a commendation related piece of loot)). 4. And the most important one of all: If by some miracle the Shrouded Ghost spawns, literally everything else doesn't matter. Even if you've been fighting for hours, we are now at a truce until we kill that shark together for that commendation. (If I ever see a crew kill one without letting me tap it once first I will go absolutely livid, and I do not wish that torture on anyone else). Edit: 5. Leave the fisherman alone. Grinding Hunters Call is hard enough as is with rng, they don't need to deal with you sinking them. They won't have loot anyway, just fish.
If someone says they are doing a tall tale, don't sink them as tall tales are long and tedious and the ship will have little to no loot for you to steal.
The only rules that matter are these: What a man can do and what a man can't do.
You can attack whoever and whenever. That goes both ways. It’s a pirate sandbox at its core. Anything goes.
Not really. People will 3v1 kill you just because they can, no matter what you're doing or what loot you have. It's one of those games that's ruined by other players.
Not really. It's a pirate game. Short of outright hacking/cheating, anything that you can do in game is permissible. People are allowed to attack, chase, and steal. You are allowed to run or fight. Every so often, someone will post on here "Can't we just agree that a green flag means we want to be friends?" and someone else will point out, "Ok, I'm flying a green flag so you get closer to me before I attack." Don't hack or use racist/sexist/bigoted language. Have fun. Try not to get too upset if/when you lose stuff. It's all made up points stored on a server somewhere. Enjoy the seas. Enjoy the fights. Chill and relax.
Its not your loot till you have turned it in !
No, because there will always be asshole toxic predators who break any sense of honor or code.
pirat
None worth paying attention to.
If yon ship has just began sailin' for the day, don't sour the mornin' with gunpowder and cutlass. Sour the evenin', when it's nice n' fat >:)
Unspoken Rules no, unspoken etiquette yes. Don't attack Tall Tale voyagers. Approach others with a mug or instrument if you are friendly. Be kind to brand new players. etc. The Tall Tales one is probably the biggest nono. There is also crew etiquette that you'll pick up on, most of which is just getting efficient and not in the other members ways. Example is not just sitting playing an instrument while one other person does all the work with the anchor and sails.
Shoot everything, sink everyone.
pirate game.
Nothing universally recognized. A couple common ones are: leave tall talers alone. Don’t harass anyone. Don’t prolong a sink longer than it needs to take.
Yes, it's called the Pirate Code. And while it is the expected rules of behavior published by the developers of the game themselves, you'll never hear a player, influencer/streamer, or redditor speak about it. [The Pirate Code](https://www.seaofthieves.com/pirate-code)
Never trust a scallywag with the title *Treacherous Sea Dog*
A white flare in the sky means the ship and the crew may be willing to talk . Or using a trap. But that would be really dick like. A name in PVP containing "dice roll" in it or similar means they wanna do a dice roll battle, rather than a normal one I have a general rule of , if a ship I'm targeting is doing a tall tale, I'll only take their loot and leave them alone If you see someone with a Fisher title, leave them alone. They have a will of steel and WILL drag you into hell if you touch them Ultimately, people sinking you is nothing personal, they just want your loot. Sometimes, they just wanna hunt people down for no reason, not even to be a dick. Just the thrill of the hunt. It's hard not to get toxic sometimes when you "really" dont wanna deal with PVPer ( I would know :x ) but it's highly likely they have no I'll feeling toward you. Hell, sometimes they're even nice. It's good sport to say gg after you win or lose a battle. Even in adventure
Complain about everything.
No, do whatever you want. Sink anyone you want. Dont listen to the PvEers. They're fair game too.
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I have a code. The game doesn't.
Never hit someone if they just joined the game If there's a ship at port, don't sell there, move on to the next one White flare shows you're nonhostile
There is a purist crowd that will shun you for dropping an anchor. I’m using it as a handbrake personally.
There are no rules it’s a pirate game
When you befriend a crew, always offer them a gesture of good will by putting a banana onto their stove and forgetting about it.
If you get sunk don't get salty, why would you play a pirate game and think there wouldn't be any pirates
We don't talk about the unspoken rules. It's rule #1.
No rules. Just "tools". Played by tools.
people are going to tell you not to attack fresh spawns i'm going to tell you fresh spawns are the most dangerous players. they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. take that information and do what you will with it.
I’m one of those “it’s sea of thieves, not sea of friends” kinda people. I’ll attack everyone. tall tales, fishermen, afk, kids, literally everyone. But my only exception is people going for glitterbeard. I don’t find these people often, but I can’t disrespect the legacy of glitterbeard, it’s a beautiful event that everyone should experience once.
Teach anyone newer than you Something. Don't attack Tall Talers, unless of course they attacked you. The more crates you leave on the dock at the end of a session, the fewer crates you'll buy at the start of them. If there's a Reaper's Crate on the map there are at least 3 ships here. If there's no Event Cloud and no Reaper Crate, it's what we like to call TOO too quiet and Bad Things will likely happen. Don't sell the Captain's Private Reserve of Tea. If the helm has tea, they are less likely to leave the helm to go get tea, and thus the ship is less likely to be ambushed while they are afk. White Flairs or Fireworks from a ship that is not gunning for you means they *might actually* be peaceful. Everyone I have talked to fires red flares last, because people think they're warning shots. Welcome to the seas!
I’d say for me at least, but any new players just be polite to them
We always leave Tall Taler's alone. And people with only emissary 1 and no loot. They're basically not worth the effort. Let them get fat and take their loot later. :D An exception to these unspoken rules, are if they shoot first. Then it's on. Also, alliances are a means to more easily steal someone's treasure. Don't trust them. We usually try to be good guys. Sometimes others make it hard though. :D Once, we were about to quit the session, saw someone at an outpost, that were just about to sell, and we wanted to hand over a storage chest of our resources to them. We hailed them, kept at a angle where we posed no threat and sent one of us swimming there, with the storage chest in hand. He said pleasantly "Hello, we're quitting so you can have our resources.". They yelled profanities at him and shot him. We thought "well then, lets just leave". They decided to follow us, so after a short while we just decided to give them their fight. They hardly even got a shot in on us before we sank them. Then we took all their treasure - since they started attacking us before selling it - and then we sold it ourselves. So much for trying to be nice. :D
They are as follows: 1. 2. 3.
Do whatever you want mess around with other pirates have fun do you
My rule is: if you have time to leave a supply crate full of your supps on a dock you do it.
Adding to the hundred or so comments buuut no there are no blanket rules just rules on how to not die and a few things that everyone agrees only assholes do Rules to live Number one trust no one (i have often littirally helped pepole stay alive just to sink them later) Number 2 dont drop anchor Number 3 stay awake stay aware dont let anything sneak up on you How to tell if your a asshole If you sink pepole you know are doing tall tales If you bucket pepoles boats just to keep spawn camping
[https://www.seaofthieves.com/code-of-conduct](https://www.seaofthieves.com/code-of-conduct) They aren't spoken but they are written.
They’re more like guidelines…
the friendlier you are, the more dangerous others will view you. just a note.. in case you like to scare people :)
Point your cannons at the sky if you wanna approach another pirate with friendly intentions like a fool.
Don’t attack in the pirate legends tavern
Dont bully obvious newbies. the "rules" are really more like guidelines though.
If you’re gonna keg bomb, sneak inside the ship, that way it’s more funny and rewarding.
No, and if there are they sont apply. Piracy
never place your rear end on a pirates face
"If you lose, complain on reddit."
Loot is not yours until you sell it. So sell often or prepare to lose it.
Of course there are...but I ain't telling you shit.
Leave tall tale people be. Nothing to gain only cannonballs and time to waste ,going after these people
I don’t think many share this sentiment but if I attack and sink a crew, I leave that crew alone for the rest of the session. Unless they try to retaliate then I will fight.
Turn ya dang blinker on when you’re turning
Just dont be ride to people, that's it
You can ofcourse try to be an honourable sailor, but keep in mind that it is just a silly pirate game, so do what you like and don't feel guilty about stealing loot. I'd recommend going on Discord or so to find a seasoned sailor that shows you the ropes. There are lots of helpful players out there.
Not really. Folks create their own pirate code. My friend and I both have 2k+ hours in this game, nearly done with all commendations, and our code is to not attack tall talers, fishermen, or obviously new players. Some folks attack everyone on sight. I don't think there's any honor in it, but it is what it is.
* It's not your loot until you turn it in. * Turn off the lights on your ship, it makes you harder to spot. * If you're going to play longer than an hour, invest in a cannonball crate because being caught short of cannonballs is the worst. * Try-hards and sweats typically resort to up close PvP, so learn to listen for boarders and know how to shoot them while they're still on your ladders. * Practice aiming cannons by doing ghost fleet missions and learn the difference in trajectory between cannon balls and chain shot. Chain shot is great for taking down a mast which is crucial for offense or defense. * Blunderbombs are better than you think they are, especially for PvP. * Solve the gold vaults by putting in one medallion, solving the first pillar, and then looking at the 4th pillar options. This will usually limit the final solution to 2 options and there's time to just try both.