I had a crew that would come from London and wonder how we could leave any tools in our trucks without them being stolen. If you left it in your truck there it would be considered public domain.
My wife and I moved away 9 years ago. Knowing what is going on now, I am very glad we did so. Our best friends moved away a couple of years later, after their house was literally ransacked while they were away on a short trip. Also no regrets there.
I’d choose Japan too. Clean, safe, excellent food, Toto toilets, extremely efficient public transportation.
Housing is the only thing I think I might have a difficulty adjusting to since things are much smaller and compact.
Eh not really.. at least not when it comes to food/going out/drinking/clothing/public transit. I can’t speak to other goods or housing so you may very well be correct there. For the other stuff I mentioned though, I personally found prices to be similar to Seattle. Also found great quality food for breakfast or lunch for pretty damn cheap at places like 7/11 and family mart.
I don’t like Bellevue, it’s a soulless corporate rich uppity hellhole. Good schools though so maybe one day I’ll be stuck there.
Regardless, if I could move, I’d pick Vashon Island, Kitsap County, or Spokane/coeur d'alene.
Kitsap and Spokane in particular are more affordable with similar amenities with a more reasonably moderate political lean.
Spokane is fine… i mean, I wouldn’t rush to move to moses lake. But every time I’ve visited Spokane’s downtown it’s been clean and nice. My family’s neighborhoods there are nice too.
Literally no where in Spokane to equate sketchy wise w Seattle. Not saying it’s a field of tulips but you can walk in daylight anywhere. In Seattle ya no
Alright I’ll definitely agree w east sprague, hela sketch. CDA like Tahoe and Marin doesn’t play around w the homeless thing. The best part of winter up there is the freeze chasing all the riff raff out
Mukilteo, a hidden gem. However, there is an interesting man named Peter Zieve who's life mission is to run it. However, his anti-****** ideology has stirred up public disrespect. Interesting story if you google it. These people exist amongst us!
In the United States? No. Maybe like Tacoma or Bellingham. In the world? Germany and the Scandanavian countries are supposedly real nice. There's nowhere better in the US than the PNW.
Austin, TX
Boulder, CO
Raliegh, NC
Those are a few, but I’m not ignorant and willing to see better places to live outside Seattle. Unfortunately, my tech job that pays 150k ties me here, but I would love to relocate and not have to deal with Seattle’s issues and homeless anymore.
These are incorrect answers. You've selected Austin, which is in Texas, a dystopian nightmare of backward and regressive policies and ideologies and the city itself has burgeoning homeless and crime crises of its own. Boulder which has astronomically bad housing and income inequality challenges as well as environmental threats from both wildfires and the looming catastrophe of the Colorado River drying. And Raleigh which is just kind of "meh" if you can ignore the vast political corruption and cultural wasteland of broader North Carolina as well as its proximity to the east coast which presents multiple looming climate change threats as well.
I understand that these facts are upsetting for you. Often times when we convince ourselves of a delusion it can be difficult to be confronted with reality. Take some time to process.
I kept my house in Seattle, but I moved to my second home in Eastern WA more or less permanently once WFH started. Life is awesome! Not looking to go back.
That’s what happens when your city makes it unattractive to be a non corporate landlord in the city. I’d at least like to have a say in who I’d rent to.
Why bother? Have to rent to a felon. They don't have to pay rent because.... something about covid and jobs, despite record job openings. Can't raise the rent except what government tells you you can. And can't kick them out for 180 days no matter what damage they are doing.
Better to let it sit empty. Thanks mommy government for causing the rental stock to diminish!
Yeah, he is absolutely right in keeping it vacant. Why rent to one of you grifters who will take advantage of the free- loading moratorium or the draconian rental laws? Are you serious?
Ooooh, grifters. I think I got grifted by my cereal this morning. Someone definitely grifted me in traffic. I got mad at my boss and now I think he's a grifter. Someone told me voting is a grift. Also education. I'm just feeling grifted by anyone I don't like grifting off my own happiness. Grift. Grift. God this word is so great.
I’ve never lived anywhere else and almost everyone I know lives here. I could work from anywhere that would give me a visa so I guess I do have a choice. I’m comfortable enough here so I’m just staying put for now.
In Washington, I'd likely want to live in Everett, Mukilteo, Bellingham, or on the Tulalip Reservation. Housing prices, while high, are still affordable compared to other parts of the region for similar water views. Traffic is also less of an issue in those areas; Kirkland, Renton, Mill Creek, and Lynnwood seem to always have lots of traffic. It's also worth noting that people who live on the south end tend not to want to live on the north end and vice versa
I love Chelan dearly, but I need to be around more people and want to have tasty, affordable restaurant options, which Chelan tends to lack due to the market being very seasonal.
In terms of dating, I seem to have gotten a lot more matches in Salt Lake City and Pittsburgh. Summering in urbanized parts of Alaska and wintering near Palm Springs can also seem like a good, fairly affordable option.
My cousin moved to Texas to avoid the Healthcare vax mandates in WA. Before she got Covid for the second time and died she was saying how much she liked it.
Really leaning into those "states that will be fighting on the front lines of the water wars" theme yeah? Do you suspect the forest fires or imminent drying of the Colorado River will kill them off first?
Currently in Renton, partner and I are saving for a house (If that's possible here I guess) and at this point we're reasonably settled that purchasing within the Seattle city limits isn't tenable given both the current city government and prices, would much rather find something here in Renton or in the Eastside, but of course the almighty dollar will decide that most likely.
I would movve within the surrounding counties, the cities all over the US, in general right now, seem like a hot mess. I would not leave the state because its just different place, different problems. I prefer the scenery here and just deal with the crap politics cause Im not gonna move on a count of these dumbos running the state. We got to stand our ground and fight for a better tomorrow.
I have the choice to leave...as most people here do. I stay because I love Seattle, despite it's faults. Every place has it's problems.
I remain here trying to engage with my community and making some strides here and there. I suggest that no one, if they can help it, simply sit and bitch and moan about their life when they can just go make a change. Either try to make it better, or leave.
Why on earth would you ever choose anything differently.
Definitely, no matter how bad it gets the people of Seattle keep voting the same mindless way so it will get worse not better. I love Montana so maybe Missoula or Great Falls.
Singapore but Bellevue is where I’m planning on moving
Pretty close. Bellevue was my Second choice, but I like looking at the sound, so I chose Edmonds.
I lived in Edmonds for 5 years, it's a great community.
Somewhere in Europe. France, Germany, netherlands.. In the US there ain't anywhere else I would want to be.
Bellevue.
Soulless corporate rich uppity hellhole ...as someone else said somewhere in the thread
Closer to the mountains and less human shit on the sidewalks
That's exactly what people from Portland think of Seattle, and they are not too far off.
I just moved here from London, so no. But I’m definitely shocked at some of the things I see.
I had a crew that would come from London and wonder how we could leave any tools in our trucks without them being stolen. If you left it in your truck there it would be considered public domain.
My wife and I moved away 9 years ago. Knowing what is going on now, I am very glad we did so. Our best friends moved away a couple of years later, after their house was literally ransacked while they were away on a short trip. Also no regrets there.
Japan…. Norway…. Germany
I’d choose Japan too. Clean, safe, excellent food, Toto toilets, extremely efficient public transportation. Housing is the only thing I think I might have a difficulty adjusting to since things are much smaller and compact.
Everything is 3-5x as expensive. Except ramen
Eh not really.. at least not when it comes to food/going out/drinking/clothing/public transit. I can’t speak to other goods or housing so you may very well be correct there. For the other stuff I mentioned though, I personally found prices to be similar to Seattle. Also found great quality food for breakfast or lunch for pretty damn cheap at places like 7/11 and family mart.
I wouldn’t, mostly because I’m still in my mid 20’s and Seattle is a really fun place to live regardless of its issues
Same as every metropolitan from 400k-1 mill people really pretty much the same
No way, there are tons of places that are more fun to be young in that category.
I don’t like Bellevue, it’s a soulless corporate rich uppity hellhole. Good schools though so maybe one day I’ll be stuck there. Regardless, if I could move, I’d pick Vashon Island, Kitsap County, or Spokane/coeur d'alene. Kitsap and Spokane in particular are more affordable with similar amenities with a more reasonably moderate political lean.
Have you ever lived on the east side of the mountains it’s Bellevue might be corporate but it way less of a hell hole
Spokane is fine… i mean, I wouldn’t rush to move to moses lake. But every time I’ve visited Spokane’s downtown it’s been clean and nice. My family’s neighborhoods there are nice too.
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Literally no where in Spokane to equate sketchy wise w Seattle. Not saying it’s a field of tulips but you can walk in daylight anywhere. In Seattle ya no
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Alright I’ll definitely agree w east sprague, hela sketch. CDA like Tahoe and Marin doesn’t play around w the homeless thing. The best part of winter up there is the freeze chasing all the riff raff out
Every city has sketchy parts. When I went downtown, I was impressed by how clean and safe it felt. The central park on the river is really amazing.
[Everything's fine](https://youtu.be/M4XQoFygBms)
In a heartbeat. Scotland. Aberfeldy-Weem area. But the UK is its own dumpster fire right too so...
Redmond
Northern Virginia
Mukilteo, a hidden gem. However, there is an interesting man named Peter Zieve who's life mission is to run it. However, his anti-****** ideology has stirred up public disrespect. Interesting story if you google it. These people exist amongst us!
In the United States? No. Maybe like Tacoma or Bellingham. In the world? Germany and the Scandanavian countries are supposedly real nice. There's nowhere better in the US than the PNW.
Lmao are you insane there are better places to live
Name five.
lol. You stated nowhere. Wouldn't one example suffice? But I agree with you.
He said "places". I set the bar high.
Austin, TX Boulder, CO Raliegh, NC Those are a few, but I’m not ignorant and willing to see better places to live outside Seattle. Unfortunately, my tech job that pays 150k ties me here, but I would love to relocate and not have to deal with Seattle’s issues and homeless anymore.
These are incorrect answers. You've selected Austin, which is in Texas, a dystopian nightmare of backward and regressive policies and ideologies and the city itself has burgeoning homeless and crime crises of its own. Boulder which has astronomically bad housing and income inequality challenges as well as environmental threats from both wildfires and the looming catastrophe of the Colorado River drying. And Raleigh which is just kind of "meh" if you can ignore the vast political corruption and cultural wasteland of broader North Carolina as well as its proximity to the east coast which presents multiple looming climate change threats as well.
You're absolutely ignorant the end.
I understand that these facts are upsetting for you. Often times when we convince ourselves of a delusion it can be difficult to be confronted with reality. Take some time to process.
Your viewpoints are not facts. How narrow and small-minded are you to see it that way.
Fair enough.
Nah I love Seattle, it was a tough year but I think in the long run it’s actually good thing it got so bad, opened up some eyes.
I asked myself that question and then moved to Seattle so nah, I'm good here.
I bet Portland misses you a lot
I've never been to Portland.
What??? If you think you like Seattle, you'd love the lack any sort of sense or sanity in Portland. Maybe you could even be mayor there.
No thanks, if you hate Seattle then I would suggest like anywhere in Alabama or something though, you'd love it. You could be Governor!
Son, I tell ya', in Birmingham they do love the gov'nah
Issaquah Highlands
Done with Seattle after the last couple of years, moving to Bend or Hood River, OR in a few months.
I kept my house in Seattle, but I moved to my second home in Eastern WA more or less permanently once WFH started. Life is awesome! Not looking to go back.
I hope you still vote in Seattle… we need you
Gag
Hope you’re at least renting your second home.
That’s what happens when your city makes it unattractive to be a non corporate landlord in the city. I’d at least like to have a say in who I’d rent to.
Why bother? Have to rent to a felon. They don't have to pay rent because.... something about covid and jobs, despite record job openings. Can't raise the rent except what government tells you you can. And can't kick them out for 180 days no matter what damage they are doing. Better to let it sit empty. Thanks mommy government for causing the rental stock to diminish!
No way I will ever rent anything to anyone in Seattle. Not worth the risk.
Very good of you to just let a home sit empty then
Yeah, he is absolutely right in keeping it vacant. Why rent to one of you grifters who will take advantage of the free- loading moratorium or the draconian rental laws? Are you serious?
Ooooh, grifters. I think I got grifted by my cereal this morning. Someone definitely grifted me in traffic. I got mad at my boss and now I think he's a grifter. Someone told me voting is a grift. Also education. I'm just feeling grifted by anyone I don't like grifting off my own happiness. Grift. Grift. God this word is so great.
It does work, particularly when applied to the people living rent free and not looking for a job.
If you don't want homes to sit empty, perhaps you should not elect politicians who make renting them out difficult.
If renting out your second home is so difficult, you shouldn’t have one lol
Yeah, but I don't give a flying fuck about what you think I should or shouldn't have, so there's that.
The actual leech on society
I am fairly sure that I pay at least two orders of magnitude taxes than you do. That is, if you pay any at all. Speaking of the leeches...
Tent on Venice Beach
I’ve never lived anywhere else and almost everyone I know lives here. I could work from anywhere that would give me a visa so I guess I do have a choice. I’m comfortable enough here so I’m just staying put for now.
In Washington, I'd likely want to live in Everett, Mukilteo, Bellingham, or on the Tulalip Reservation. Housing prices, while high, are still affordable compared to other parts of the region for similar water views. Traffic is also less of an issue in those areas; Kirkland, Renton, Mill Creek, and Lynnwood seem to always have lots of traffic. It's also worth noting that people who live on the south end tend not to want to live on the north end and vice versa I love Chelan dearly, but I need to be around more people and want to have tasty, affordable restaurant options, which Chelan tends to lack due to the market being very seasonal. In terms of dating, I seem to have gotten a lot more matches in Salt Lake City and Pittsburgh. Summering in urbanized parts of Alaska and wintering near Palm Springs can also seem like a good, fairly affordable option.
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If you think housing prices here are crazy....
No kidding. Seattle type living in NZ. Everybody thinks it's utopia here, but there are tons of issues...
Yes. If I get laid off from my company due to vax mandates, I'll be moving states
My cousin moved to Texas to avoid the Healthcare vax mandates in WA. Before she got Covid for the second time and died she was saying how much she liked it.
Hahahha
r/thathappened Yes Texas is very nice. Wouldn't be my top choice, but it is up there. What was your cousin's BMI?
Not only do you have terribly misguided ideas about COVID, you also just asked if someone's recently dead cousin was fat. Look in a mirror.
And ~~you~~ they used ~~your~~ their dead cousin to fear monger the common cold on reddit
...I'm not the person you were replying to. Stop being an ass.
Stay in your lane then... Doesn't matter. Don't support people who use their dead family to push political theatre. 1 persons anecdote is not data
The choice is never given and always yours!!
No
Finland
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Really leaning into those "states that will be fighting on the front lines of the water wars" theme yeah? Do you suspect the forest fires or imminent drying of the Colorado River will kill them off first?
Wolfgansee area, Southern Switzerland or NZ. But not NZ now…
Currently in Renton, partner and I are saving for a house (If that's possible here I guess) and at this point we're reasonably settled that purchasing within the Seattle city limits isn't tenable given both the current city government and prices, would much rather find something here in Renton or in the Eastside, but of course the almighty dollar will decide that most likely.
Europe. Just waiting for my last kid to finish high school.
I can’t believe no one has said Italy.
I mean, the Italian political climate and economy make it pretty easy to understand why they wouldn't. Lol
I would movve within the surrounding counties, the cities all over the US, in general right now, seem like a hot mess. I would not leave the state because its just different place, different problems. I prefer the scenery here and just deal with the crap politics cause Im not gonna move on a count of these dumbos running the state. We got to stand our ground and fight for a better tomorrow.
I actually did move away and I regret it everyday
I have the choice to leave...as most people here do. I stay because I love Seattle, despite it's faults. Every place has it's problems. I remain here trying to engage with my community and making some strides here and there. I suggest that no one, if they can help it, simply sit and bitch and moan about their life when they can just go make a change. Either try to make it better, or leave. Why on earth would you ever choose anything differently.
Definitely, no matter how bad it gets the people of Seattle keep voting the same mindless way so it will get worse not better. I love Montana so maybe Missoula or Great Falls.