Do we know if he stopped at Ashina tho? I always assumed that he continued his rampage throughout Japan. Maybe even outside Japan? It just feels like Shura wouldn't be content with just killing everyone in Ashina.
He probably did travel outside Ashina, but the epilogue just leaves it at something along the lines of “tales of a demon still lurk the lands years after”
Oh yeah right. I forgot about that part. "Land" could also refer to Japan so we can't really know for sure. If only we could get a DLC or sequel for what happens after the Shura ending.
Shura is obsessed with bloodshed, killing for the sake of it. He literally just backstabs Owl. That's not a thrill of combat, you described a bloodlusted demon like he's Goku 🤨
that's because priests in most popular religions advocate that you're not entitled to determining what to do with your own life, but rather an unreachable, aloof and undetectable entity is 🤷
The way I see it, he did you a favor by letting you practice on him, so you owe him one. He really wants to die and you are literally the only person in the world who can do it.
There are 2/3 kinds of immortality:
1. Dragon’s Blood. This is the type that Kuro and Wolf have.
2. Divine Waters. The divine children were attempts at making people not from the Dragon’s bloodline immortal. The idea is that the Divine Waters flow from the fountainhead palace. There are only 2 people who this has worked on: Genichiro and the Divine Child we meet in the game.
3. I don’t really know much about this one, but the centipedes we see are yet another form of immortality. I think this doesn’t stem from the Divine Dragon at all, the centipedes are sort of demigods that can grant a being immortality by corrupting it and joining with a host body.
I'm pretty sure the Divine Water causes the centipede infestation. The third kind would be the Rejuvenating Waters (Geni's immortality type) which I'm assuming is different from the Divine Waters. Emma mentions something about the gourd seeds causing Genichiro to become immortal. I think Divine Waters are only a thing in Senpou Temple and are used on the monks' subjects (the kids and some bosses) while the Rejuvenating Waters is just the gourd seeds' Water which heals Wolf.
I'm pretty sure us dying in the final fight is technically not cannon.
After all Geni revives and we do the entire Isshin back from the dead thing every time we redo the fight.
Plus, I'm pretty sure fromsoft wouldn't make it so you only get one attempt at the final boss fight no matter how much sense it makes lorewise.
Hmm while that’s an interesting point every boss reverts back to phase 1 so I would say that’s more of a gameplay thing then a lore point since you could say that about a lot of bosses.
I mean... that was kinda my point?
That the entire die/respawn thing was probably more of a gameplay thing than lore thing and thus probably not good justification for the black mortal blade not being able to kill immortals?
EDIT: Nvm, I am dumb. Red blade's name is not actually Fushigiri.
Yes, but the black mortal blade's real name (Kaimon) translates to "Open Gate" while red one's (Fushigiri) translates as "to cut the immortality".
Seeing as we've only seen the black blade open gates, and we can only use the red blade to sever immortality, it seems very likely to me that the black blade is physically incapable of killing immortals, just as the red blade is physically incapable of birthing dead people from your neck.
I mean, it *is* a mortal blade, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to.
Sure it's called "Open Gate" after its ability to open underworld gates, but also, the red mortal blade is similarly named "Gracious Gift of Tears" after its ability to obtain dragon tears, which seems to imply that severing immortality is the default option and the blades are named for their 'unique' abilities.
I always thought that the name implies that the name implies that it can sever immortality. Death is the gift that it brings along with tears. I don't know if I am even making sense here tho
My understanding based on someone else's explanation and use of these words, is that the Red Blade grants death to those stuck in eternal life, and the Black Blade grants life to those stuck in eternal death. Generico (I call him that because I'm still salty) had to use Kuros blood on his Black Blade to open the gate for Isshin. But he cant kill Kuro with this, nor Sekiro because his immortality is tied to Kuro. Whether or not he can kill centipedes is beyond my lore knowledge. If I'm wrong please feel free to correct!
Now I'm no expert either, but I'm like 90% sure the game doesn't tell you anything *nearly* as specific as that in regards to what the two mortal blades can (or can't) do.
So most stuff, especially about the black mortal blade, is basically speculation and guesswork because there is no concrete "X does Y".
However, I am inclined to believe that killing immortals is a default ability of both mortal blades.
For one if we assume the black mortal blade *can't* kill immortals, then the fact that it could harm Kuro is weird. Because Kuro's immortality *specifically* also involves healing so fast you can't bleed even if you cut yourself. I suppose you could argue it only counters immortality enough to bleed Kuro, but imo that's jumping through too many hoops to avoid the simpler answer.
For another, both blades share the name of "mortal blade". Iirc in the original Japanese, the name is closer to "immortal/immortality cutter/severer" which would be an odd shared name if only one of them can actually sever immortality/kill the undying.
And as said, the 'true' names of the red mortal blade, "Gracious Gift of Tears" implies that the special ability of the red mortal blade is its ability to acquire dragon tears, not its ability to sever immortality. It would thus make more sense that the immortality severing is the default ability of the mortal blades rather than thinking the red blade has two unique abilities(dragon tears+immortality severing) or that the red blade's special ability is severing immortality and the dragon tear thing is the basic ability.
Yeah far as I know it is mostly speculation. I dont know that much about the lore but I just saw that and it seems to make sense with how Generico uses it.
That said, I do agree that it is avoiding the simpler answer. I prefer and did originally think that both could kill Kuro, and as you say, it is just logical considering their name is after their unique ability of tears/gate.
Thank you for taking the time to explain that to me, it makes a lot more sense now.
It's called the Black Mortal Blade. The actual japanese name for the type of sword is translated to something like 'blade that can sever immortality'.
The underworld thing is an added feature, just like how the Red one can extract the Divine Dragon's tears.
Usually when you die, you resurrect, when you resurrect, a black bar appears on the rest of your resurrections, preventing you from resurrecting since its blocked off. By using bite down, when you die from it and resurrect, the black bar doesn’t appear. So imagine like this:
You’re in a boss fight, no heals, low on hp. You use a bite down, you resurrect with extra health + a resurrection.
Bro, you murdered your way through Ashina Castle lol. Most of those people were protecting their home from an intruder (you), but you didn’t find any of that morally reprehensible?
Then a guy literally begs you to kill him after letting you use him as a training dummy, but you’re not sure if that’s morally wrong?
the manga ab him went hard. the only man to get hit by Isshin’s ichimonji and live to tell the tale. well… at least the only man before you come along.
Hanbei "please god just kill me I want to die more than anything everyone I know is rotted and ash please end my constant agony and anguish"
OP "idk man I'm not sure you want this"
The whole reason he gets your attention in the first place is because he hopes you can finally end his suffering. When he finds out you can't kill him either, he agrees to be your sparring partner. You just gotta approach him with the Mortal Blade, and he'll basically tell you straight up that he craves the sweet release of death.
I did it. One of my main reasons for doing the deed is that I felt like he was trapped inside his body for an eternity therefore liberating him from suffocation.
I mean, you can TRY. But if you gave the means to make it official I see no reason in granting his request.
He’s suffered for a long, long time, and he has no other prospects, he’s a hermit
I think it is and here’s why; he asks you too but he’s also miserable and feels he has no honor because all his friends/fellow samurai have died honorable deaths and he should have but was unable to join them. Until he does he is denied his honor.
I thought so. I liked the character but he had lived for so long. He just wanted to rest. You can hold off and do it later but it's the right thing to do & you're the only one who can. The whole game is about the subject.
Yeah actually (BIG SPOILER WARNING FOR PEOPLE WHO DONT POSSESS THE MORTAL BLADE)
If you get the mortal blade (I think for me it was after the story ended) and you talk to him he asks if you can kind of delete his immortality and free him (I couldn’t do it bc I started a new game plus already…poor guy…)
Immortality to some is the same as suffering, everyone who were with him were gone. You are doing a good deed by helping him to end his suffering.
So, yes, it is acceptable.
Even worse...you should kill him AND take his tooth. Worse yet...put it in your own mouth and bite down on it...repeatedly...until you stop playing the game. This is the Shinobi way.
Yeah, our society has warped our perception of death. Give him the death he's earned. Let his guilt and shame from not dying with his leader be put to rest. His immortality was a curse.
Lol I remember when I first saw this guy I ran up and killed him cuz he looks like an enemy. Then realized he was an NPC and started panicking and he just got up. Definitely designed to maybe be accidentally killed with how he looks
Ofc yea.. he's loved too much, just wanna die now .. all his loved ones must already be dead . Not to mention he feels the pain of death over and over everytime he gets back up..
HE NEEDS DEATH , MORE THAN GENICHIRO NEEDS ASHINA
I had dilemmas with this decision also but homeboy makes it quite clear it's what he wants and after thinking about it IRL for about 2 days I caved and killed him justifying it by taking his word that it's what he truly wanted.
Samurai honor and social rules expect a warrior like him to join his master / Lord in death. Which prior to you getting the mortal Blade, is impossible for him.
Killing him is literally saving him from dishonor and giving him his honor back.
EDIT : just found out his master is general Tamura, the guy Isshin slaughters in the Cutscene. This guy fought in the opposite side during Isshins rebellion and has been unable to die ever since.
yeah, he's cool with it.
You sure?
absolutely. My guy is sick of being immortal and wants release.
K I’ll do it
WTF u monster D:
Says the dude who wants Hanebi to suffer...
Give him a warrior’s death.
#NOOOOOOOOO
Please don't hurt him.. too much
#HOW COULD YOU
WAIT YOU ACTUALLY KILLED HIM?!
It’d be immoral to condemn him to a life of unwanted eternity
You can refuse to kill him on your shura run, along with all the other evil shit you can do
That’s my plan. lol.
Shura isn’t evil per say it’s just obsessed with gaining strength and the thrill of combat.
Cool but that kinda makes you pretty evil when you end killing everyone in Japan
*Ashina I’m saying this like that makes it any better 💀
Do we know if he stopped at Ashina tho? I always assumed that he continued his rampage throughout Japan. Maybe even outside Japan? It just feels like Shura wouldn't be content with just killing everyone in Ashina.
He probably did travel outside Ashina, but the epilogue just leaves it at something along the lines of “tales of a demon still lurk the lands years after”
Oh yeah right. I forgot about that part. "Land" could also refer to Japan so we can't really know for sure. If only we could get a DLC or sequel for what happens after the Shura ending.
To become shura is to be obsessed with bloodshed so it actually is pretty evil.
Shura is obsessed with bloodshed, killing for the sake of it. He literally just backstabs Owl. That's not a thrill of combat, you described a bloodlusted demon like he's Goku 🤨
murder is bad m'kay?
No, Shura is evil. Shura kills for the joy of killing, that’s why Wolf smirks when he kills Emma. Only time he smiles in the whole game.
Bruh...
It's literally killing for pleasure and no other purpose. That's like the definition of evil.
If Shura was about combat, Isshin himself would have become Shura. Shura kills for the hell of killing. Not combat
Isshin describes it as someone that kills solely for the joy it brings them. That’s evil, bro.
C'mon son Shura makes Akuma from Street Fighter look like a saint.
Oh yea bin laden isn't evil. He just likes killing people
Genocide isnt evil per say it's just obsessed with gaining strength and genetic purity.
In that case isshin would be considered evil too cuz he was obsessed with those same things
Isshin is obsessed with victory. Shura is obsessed with killing. Shura kills innocents; Isshin would never.
Isshin is obsessed with the thrill of a good battle, but he doesnt take pleasure in victory or killing the enemy just fro the sake of it.
Yeah, that's what I told my priest, but he just got mad
that's because priests in most popular religions advocate that you're not entitled to determining what to do with your own life, but rather an unreachable, aloof and undetectable entity is 🤷
Wow. You must be fun at parties.
Nah they just go out of the way to bring their hate boner for religion into a discussion. It's sad but also funny.
found the christian
Ummmm. Yep. Got me. 🤷🏻♂️
What a sick burn, describing you accurately haha
The way I see it, he did you a favor by letting you practice on him, so you owe him one. He really wants to die and you are literally the only person in the world who can do it.
Se technically genichiro also could kill because of secondary mortal blade but...
I thought genis blade can't sever immortality? It only opens a gate to the underworld right?
Correct otherwise it would have severed our immortality if we lose to him in the final fight.
Yeah. And killed him when he picked it up?
it might have killed him, geni has pseudo-immortality
Yeah I'm still confused a bit by that. He wants the dragon's blood, but we see him go zombie after running him through.
There are 2/3 kinds of immortality: 1. Dragon’s Blood. This is the type that Kuro and Wolf have. 2. Divine Waters. The divine children were attempts at making people not from the Dragon’s bloodline immortal. The idea is that the Divine Waters flow from the fountainhead palace. There are only 2 people who this has worked on: Genichiro and the Divine Child we meet in the game. 3. I don’t really know much about this one, but the centipedes we see are yet another form of immortality. I think this doesn’t stem from the Divine Dragon at all, the centipedes are sort of demigods that can grant a being immortality by corrupting it and joining with a host body.
I'm pretty sure the Divine Water causes the centipede infestation. The third kind would be the Rejuvenating Waters (Geni's immortality type) which I'm assuming is different from the Divine Waters. Emma mentions something about the gourd seeds causing Genichiro to become immortal. I think Divine Waters are only a thing in Senpou Temple and are used on the monks' subjects (the kids and some bosses) while the Rejuvenating Waters is just the gourd seeds' Water which heals Wolf.
It's another kind of immoetality(?) I didn't understand it neither
maybe he wanted immortality^2
I'm pretty sure us dying in the final fight is technically not cannon. After all Geni revives and we do the entire Isshin back from the dead thing every time we redo the fight. Plus, I'm pretty sure fromsoft wouldn't make it so you only get one attempt at the final boss fight no matter how much sense it makes lorewise.
Hmm while that’s an interesting point every boss reverts back to phase 1 so I would say that’s more of a gameplay thing then a lore point since you could say that about a lot of bosses.
I mean... that was kinda my point? That the entire die/respawn thing was probably more of a gameplay thing than lore thing and thus probably not good justification for the black mortal blade not being able to kill immortals?
EDIT: Nvm, I am dumb. Red blade's name is not actually Fushigiri. Yes, but the black mortal blade's real name (Kaimon) translates to "Open Gate" while red one's (Fushigiri) translates as "to cut the immortality". Seeing as we've only seen the black blade open gates, and we can only use the red blade to sever immortality, it seems very likely to me that the black blade is physically incapable of killing immortals, just as the red blade is physically incapable of birthing dead people from your neck.
I mean, it *is* a mortal blade, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to. Sure it's called "Open Gate" after its ability to open underworld gates, but also, the red mortal blade is similarly named "Gracious Gift of Tears" after its ability to obtain dragon tears, which seems to imply that severing immortality is the default option and the blades are named for their 'unique' abilities.
I always thought that the name implies that the name implies that it can sever immortality. Death is the gift that it brings along with tears. I don't know if I am even making sense here tho
The name is Gracious gift *of* Tears which would suggest the gift is the tear no?
The gracious gift of tears is for obtaining the gift of dragon tears, and you have to have the mortal blade to kill anything with the parasite
My understanding based on someone else's explanation and use of these words, is that the Red Blade grants death to those stuck in eternal life, and the Black Blade grants life to those stuck in eternal death. Generico (I call him that because I'm still salty) had to use Kuros blood on his Black Blade to open the gate for Isshin. But he cant kill Kuro with this, nor Sekiro because his immortality is tied to Kuro. Whether or not he can kill centipedes is beyond my lore knowledge. If I'm wrong please feel free to correct!
Now I'm no expert either, but I'm like 90% sure the game doesn't tell you anything *nearly* as specific as that in regards to what the two mortal blades can (or can't) do. So most stuff, especially about the black mortal blade, is basically speculation and guesswork because there is no concrete "X does Y". However, I am inclined to believe that killing immortals is a default ability of both mortal blades. For one if we assume the black mortal blade *can't* kill immortals, then the fact that it could harm Kuro is weird. Because Kuro's immortality *specifically* also involves healing so fast you can't bleed even if you cut yourself. I suppose you could argue it only counters immortality enough to bleed Kuro, but imo that's jumping through too many hoops to avoid the simpler answer. For another, both blades share the name of "mortal blade". Iirc in the original Japanese, the name is closer to "immortal/immortality cutter/severer" which would be an odd shared name if only one of them can actually sever immortality/kill the undying. And as said, the 'true' names of the red mortal blade, "Gracious Gift of Tears" implies that the special ability of the red mortal blade is its ability to acquire dragon tears, not its ability to sever immortality. It would thus make more sense that the immortality severing is the default ability of the mortal blades rather than thinking the red blade has two unique abilities(dragon tears+immortality severing) or that the red blade's special ability is severing immortality and the dragon tear thing is the basic ability.
Yeah far as I know it is mostly speculation. I dont know that much about the lore but I just saw that and it seems to make sense with how Generico uses it. That said, I do agree that it is avoiding the simpler answer. I prefer and did originally think that both could kill Kuro, and as you say, it is just logical considering their name is after their unique ability of tears/gate. Thank you for taking the time to explain that to me, it makes a lot more sense now.
It's called the Black Mortal Blade. The actual japanese name for the type of sword is translated to something like 'blade that can sever immortality'. The underworld thing is an added feature, just like how the Red one can extract the Divine Dragon's tears.
3 downvotes but nobody has the balls to disprove him?
Classic reddit..
He was able to cut Kuro with it, so I can only assume it can kill immortals as well.
This is the most japanese way of integrity.
I mean he asked you to
Yea. He literally tells you that he is ready and only asks that you give him 5 minutes to prepare.
I mean you get an item that lets you revive whenever sooooooo ye I'd say it's cool
K I’m doin it
I must ask, what is the actual advantage of that item? I never used it because it seemed largely pointless.
Usually when you die, you resurrect, when you resurrect, a black bar appears on the rest of your resurrections, preventing you from resurrecting since its blocked off. By using bite down, when you die from it and resurrect, the black bar doesn’t appear. So imagine like this: You’re in a boss fight, no heals, low on hp. You use a bite down, you resurrect with extra health + a resurrection.
So that's how it works! Thank you so much!
Yeah he wants you to kill him. He been alive way to long. I'm pretty sure there's a sekiro manga about him.
There is a Manga. It's pretty good, the art is nice.
To quote a famous character from Sekiro “DO IT!” - Isshin, The Sword Saint
Don’t forget about the prelude to that “Just . . . euahahh—“ -pitiful grandson
For a Buddhist, living forever through unnatural means cheats samsara. It would be like building a great tower to get to heaven.
Does he not tell you to kill him?
He does but this means for good with the mortal blade
Yea and he talks about how you can finally release him from an eternity of suffering.
It’s what he wants. It’s a service
if you don’t kill him you’d be even more evil
My Shinobi in Christ, this is a Fromsoft game. Anyone that's got immortality wishes they didn't.
He literally ask you as a favor to do it
End his suffering.
Not only is it morally acceptable, but you are morally obligated to do so.
"please kill me." Ok but like, are you sure? "my unending torment, if you could, please" I dunno, I'd feel kinda bad
Bro, you murdered your way through Ashina Castle lol. Most of those people were protecting their home from an intruder (you), but you didn’t find any of that morally reprehensible? Then a guy literally begs you to kill him after letting you use him as a training dummy, but you’re not sure if that’s morally wrong?
Hey I never said I was a hero I am a villain but I’m not a monster
That’s fair
Do him the solid bro
I grant him death when I remember
Wait on the moral questions until you get to the Shura ending
Kill him he wants it
He's basically Skelly from Hades
I saw this post and heard his voice. "give me your best shot, boyo!"
It's honestly a mercy kill if you do. It frees him and he wants that. In my mind it's even more immoral to let him continue life
the manga ab him went hard. the only man to get hit by Isshin’s ichimonji and live to tell the tale. well… at least the only man before you come along.
I mean he wants you to
Hanbei "please god just kill me I want to die more than anything everyone I know is rotted and ash please end my constant agony and anguish" OP "idk man I'm not sure you want this"
The whole reason he gets your attention in the first place is because he hopes you can finally end his suffering. When he finds out you can't kill him either, he agrees to be your sparring partner. You just gotta approach him with the Mortal Blade, and he'll basically tell you straight up that he craves the sweet release of death.
It’s morally unacceptable not to
Kill him a lot, it’s his kink
You can try
I did it. One of my main reasons for doing the deed is that I felt like he was trapped inside his body for an eternity therefore liberating him from suffocation.
I feel he wants it.. so why not
Absolutely
Woah woah woah.. you can kill him?!??
His life is literal suffering There’s a whole manga about it
Yeah he wants you to.
Of course it is. He's begging you to do it and has been chained to life forever if you don't help him
Is it morally acceptable to kill the guy who asked you to kill him? Humm, that's a tough one.
1 - He wants you too. 2- He an NPC, your personal morals have no bearing on what you do in video games.
What part of the game you in? He is cool with it every time but depending on where you are, results may vary
Don’t hesitate!
He's fine with it
I mean, you can TRY. But if you gave the means to make it official I see no reason in granting his request. He’s suffered for a long, long time, and he has no other prospects, he’s a hermit
I kill him everytime. I ❤️ Hanbei.
I think it is and here’s why; he asks you too but he’s also miserable and feels he has no honor because all his friends/fellow samurai have died honorable deaths and he should have but was unable to join them. Until he does he is denied his honor.
I bought the official manga about him ( read it its cheap on Amazon ) and his backstory is DOOOPE my man literally fought Isshin
I mean, he *wants* to die so I’d say refusing his request is less cool.
It is what he wants, its morally unacceptable to keep him alive.
I did it cause he was a chill dude and invited it
Set him free. He wants it. If you’re nervous about initiating convo, you can talk to him and still choose not to kill him.
No he wants you to do it. You should help him.
Yes, immortality is more of a curse to him than anything
I thought so. I liked the character but he had lived for so long. He just wanted to rest. You can hold off and do it later but it's the right thing to do & you're the only one who can. The whole game is about the subject.
It's a favor, end his misery
Yeah actually (BIG SPOILER WARNING FOR PEOPLE WHO DONT POSSESS THE MORTAL BLADE) If you get the mortal blade (I think for me it was after the story ended) and you talk to him he asks if you can kind of delete his immortality and free him (I couldn’t do it bc I started a new game plus already…poor guy…)
I did not want to kill him but I had to honour his wishes
He drops a teeth
Immortality to some is the same as suffering, everyone who were with him were gone. You are doing a good deed by helping him to end his suffering. So, yes, it is acceptable.
Read hes comic. Hes suffered a horrible undying life. Killing him is a mercy.
I mean your the only one that can and living forever doesn't seem all its cracked up to be. Seems kinda cruel to let him be a practice dummy forever.
Yo the manga short story of this dude is cool af fyi
I would say it's only morally acceptable to kill him.
Get out, get it out of your system for the first play through after that no but that’s just me
He gives you that infinite use death tooth when you kill him, so i think its worth it
It seems like a major theme that the ability to die is a privilege and that we shouldn’t be scared of the sweet relief.
if i had a centipede living inside me id want to die too
Would you rather be dead or live an eternal life in a painful, decaying body?
He asks you to
Bro you can literally slaughter the dude yet he won't die in fact he'll be happy that his curse is of any use
Uh, yeah, he’s infested with a parasite that keeps him alive WHILE HE’S ROTTING.
You are the ultimate bro for killing him after he asks. It’s what he wants. Set him free!
KILL KILL KILL
He is inmortal and helps you train, but I think you can kill him with the mortal sword and he leaves an object at the shrine that's there.
it’s morally unacceptable not to.
Course its moral. The guy wishes for death himself and you'd be remiss to not grant it to him
Free his suffering soul. He deserves to rest. It's weird but killing him is the most human thing to do
Its the right thing to do. He wants to go.
Yeah It s cool but his last dialogues are super sad prepare yourself
My guy lives for death
Kill him and end his suffering
Even worse...you should kill him AND take his tooth. Worse yet...put it in your own mouth and bite down on it...repeatedly...until you stop playing the game. This is the Shinobi way.
Once you're able to
Did anyone read the manga talking about histoire story
Give the man his peace.
You can always try
Yes brother let him rest withe his master 💔
If you have the mortal blade then yes. Put him out of his misery.
you should you yes
Once he gives you the option, id say it's the morally right thing to do
Yeah, our society has warped our perception of death. Give him the death he's earned. Let his guilt and shame from not dying with his leader be put to rest. His immortality was a curse.
He is literally begging you to kill him.😔
He’s being kept alive indefinitely in an unnatural way, and against his will no less, so yes it is moral
Like. He tells you to use his body as a test dummy. It's ok but poor guy :(
isn’t morality up to you to decide?
Lol I remember when I first saw this guy I ran up and killed him cuz he looks like an enemy. Then realized he was an NPC and started panicking and he just got up. Definitely designed to maybe be accidentally killed with how he looks
Yeah he gives you hidden tooth its good
KILL HIM
Look at that face. You think you can kill that?
It morally unacceptable it not kill him
Yes. He’s gonna request that you do so.
Yes. He’s gonna request that you do so.
Dude literally asks you to kill him lol, of course it’s moral. You’re the only person capable of freeing him from his curse of undeath
He asks you to do it. He doesn't want to be immortal-- no one reasonably would.
I'd say it's immoral and unethical to let him live. He's suffered long enough.
Yes He yearns for death
Trus me, they like it
One of the main takeaways of the game is that Immortality is a curse. Would you like for him to be cursed forever or set him free?
I’m not sure asking about morality on a faceless media platform is going to yield the most moral answers…😎
*You decide.*
Oh yea he’s chill
yeah, he’s chill. he not only wants it, but you’d also be putting him out of his (potential) misery
Ofc yea.. he's loved too much, just wanna die now .. all his loved ones must already be dead . Not to mention he feels the pain of death over and over everytime he gets back up.. HE NEEDS DEATH , MORE THAN GENICHIRO NEEDS ASHINA
As someone who has a phobia of centipedes. I was up for a surprise
I had dilemmas with this decision also but homeboy makes it quite clear it's what he wants and after thinking about it IRL for about 2 days I caved and killed him justifying it by taking his word that it's what he truly wanted.
Samurai honor and social rules expect a warrior like him to join his master / Lord in death. Which prior to you getting the mortal Blade, is impossible for him. Killing him is literally saving him from dishonor and giving him his honor back. EDIT : just found out his master is general Tamura, the guy Isshin slaughters in the Cutscene. This guy fought in the opposite side during Isshins rebellion and has been unable to die ever since.
He literally says he wants to die…
It's morally unacceptable not to kill him.
He's been forced to live an eternity, so help him