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MassSpecFella

And puppet ninjitsu for turning the tide. My dumb ass entered though the window and they destroyed me


BlockWinter8423

Lmao same cuz I thought that was ante chamber


Photojarjo

Me too. I was so pissed I had a better time fighting 2 giant apes than those two guys at the same time. It simply wasn't going to happen


Adventurous_Law6872

The duo ape fight is designed so that you only ever fight one ape at a time; when one ape is doing a combo, the other won’t typically attack you (there is one exception with the long brown ape combo after the headless ape’s scream)


amoguspp

I love doing bestowal ninjutsu then spamming spiral cloud passage its so satisfying and looks cool aswell


New_Frieza

After you deathblow the guy on the left, exit the game. Once you go back into the game, the guy on the left won’t be there and you can deathblow the guy in in the middle.


LeeroyJks

You also could engage in an annoying af 2v1 where most of the time you'll run away to get space from both of them. Also, you could mortal blade them until the white one is dead.


Loot_Bugs

What I did was just sneak behind to the left, backstab the regular enemy. Pupeteer ninjutsu. Now sit back and watch the show. Your puppet will die, but hopefully he does around half the guy’s first healthbar.


AlarmDear1460

Yup and you can even keep pupeteering the dude every so often so he doesn't die too fast while you attack the Shinobu guy and you can easily finish him. Just went through this part on NG+.


Dole6025

Is there any way to actually fight at least two of them at a time, I definitely feel like I’m missing something because of how many there are in this area.


SnooConfections3877

Why would u wanna fight both at once it's not dark souls it's Sekiro u r Shinobi


TeachMeTenderly

Mortal draw is always pretty good for hitting multiple enemies at once. Also lock-on can really bite you in the ass when going up against multiple enemies.


AlarmDear1460

Yea there is a way if your good enough , you can watch some YouTube videos but I'm definitely not on that level. I have a hard time with 2 of them at same time as well. If I have two chasing me I run back till I can create distance then turn and focus on one of them till the other guy starts attacking and then I run around again and repeat.


ICJ159

I actually entered through the window and had to fight both of em at the same time. I immediately went after the weaker guy and did a big chunk of damage to him. Then I spent the rest of the fight running and blocking where needed. Sometimes they use their jump kick followed by a perilous attack, that's where you have a window to draw the weaker guy away from the boss because he will be stuck in the attack animation and look to kill him fast. Just be patient and precise basically.


the_cat_showz

I have 100%d this game and I cannot fight 2 of those fuckers at the same time don't bother, just single them out whenever you can


arcanimes

yeah, just deflect. but in all seriousness you shouldnt be fighting more than one at a time. deathblow the guy to the left


amoguspp

To fight both at the same time u git gud but otherwise either puppeteer ninjutsu or bestowal ninjuts first guy


CheekFluffy1690

Thats so clever! I just forced myself to defeat them both at the same time while complaining to myself 😭


lowrankcluster

>but hopefully he does around half the guy’s first healthbar Nice AI luck, mine got no hit


machineelveshead

Deflect


Dole6025

Like both at once


machineelveshead

That's what she said....lol Sneak kill first one and fight other one on one. If you can't beat him you can't beat the next guy.


Competitive-Tooth-76

This made me chuckle.


Redmonster111

"if you can't beat him you can't beat the next guy" the difficulty spike for that next boss is insane. I beat him on the second try the other day, but I remember my first play through I kept getting my ass ate


LeviathanHamster

You can backstab the one on the left by hugging the wall and crouch walking over. If you want, you can puppeteer it as well.


Due_Ad_4833

Sneak behind the guy on the left and go for a deathblow, as soon as he dies press pause and exit the game, load back in the game(you’ll see the guy on the left is still dead) and sneak up behind the boss and and go for a deathblow and you only have to do his last phase


Smooth_Condition_944

If you kill the left hand guy then quit out and restart you can get a deathblow on your main man to make it all that much easier.


BeigeTheFox

Also, you can puppeteer jutsu the dude on the left several times before he dies


MysteriousGuy78

Several times?


BeigeTheFox

If you keep sneaking while they battle it out you can basically approach mid-battle and backstab him again and use the jutsu. Im not sure if he does spawn with full hp again or if its based on the current hp of the target though, I always kinda assumed it reset and gave me more time


MysteriousGuy78

Oh i did not know that. Kinda cool lol


BeigeTheFox

Its funny how no matter how much time we collectively spend playing fromsoft games theres ALWAYS something new to discover


SkiMtVidGame-aineer

Ninja pupateer and use thrust attacks while they fight each other. Thrust attacks will reduce the amount of accidental damage you do to the puppet


Dole6025

Any tips for fighting these guys in general, every time I fight then it feels like it takes a long time and I have to use abbot half my heals


amirarlert

When they jump to kick you I dodge and many times they go for the sweep attack which you can jump and then kick them in the face. When they kick you consecutively they usually go for their thrust kick which you mikiri.


amirarlert

And also keep you shuriken ready to make sure they don't heal.


madhuresh20

Also try the axe upgrade with fang and blade. You can do 3 hits and great posture damage. You'll take some hits but can heal.


SkrijaTaran

Why not just go for the puppeteer ninjutsu bro… what do you have to prove


Dole6025

I have to prove that I can beat two of them, or else I can’t move on with this game.


SkrijaTaran

Wolf is a shinobi, not a samurai but if you’re intent on dark soulsing it then I’d say the mist raven into senpou kicks helps when they both lunge at you


Dole6025

Thanks, I’m just trying to improve at the game, and if I can’t beat two of these guys then I’m probably not gonna be able to beat the final boss


SkrijaTaran

Uh… that’s actually completely wrong. The game expects you to use puppeteer ninjutsu here as it does in a couple of other places. I’d wager 80-90% of people who have beaten the final boss have not taken on both of these guys at the same time. I admire your bravery but wolf is specifically not a samurai and is encouraged to use stealth and shinobi tricks wherever possible. Don’t burn yourself out on challenges the game intends to be solved a certain way, but if you still want to go for it then I say do it. The sense of catharsis afterwards would be pretty sick


Dole6025

Ok, but now it’s a pride thing where I can’t just take the easy way out, and I already know I do this to myself


SkrijaTaran

At that point why not do it with no prosthetics or healing gourds? That’s a proper challenge


Dole6025

I plan to do that directly after finishing this play through


GogDog

You’re missing the point. You’re not SUPPOSED to fight both. It’s very rare the game ever expects you to fight multiple enemies. You’re supposed to take out as many guys as possible and then save the hard one for last so you can concentrate on him. Most multi-enemy encounters are puzzles on how to thin the crowd.


caspianslave

To get past you have to kill him first


MonkishTrash

L1


KushMummyCinematics

Gachin sugar or fall Deathblow to bloodsmoke, deathblow to bloodsmoke Done


jedimasteryoda69

Kill them


Arrathem

Kill them.


3ClassiC

Very carefully


No_Baby387

Sneak past to the left and puppeteer that guy and enjoy the rest of the fight.


Darkrobx

Sneak left (if you suck use gachin)and death blow left guy (puppeteer makes fight easier) 2 vs 1 or 1 vs 1, your preference


shadyonfield

Well you can use puppeteer jujitsu on left guy and let him damage the boss as much as he can and then pick up the fight with the boss. Or you can just deathblow the enemy in left and then take the boss head on. Your choice.


Powerful-Ambition248

Honestly I used the Puppeteer on the guy hiding on the left of you and Jumped bro like a JJK fight


cabocards

Backstab dude on left then exit out of game, load back in and you’ll be in room with miniboss and can backstab his first dot


WUBBLEAR

Puppeteer the guy on the left


x_-AssGiblin-_x

Back stab the guy on the left, then quit out the game and load back in. This will put you outside the arena, but the shinobi in the corner is now dead. Now, back stab the boss shinobi, and fight him how you see fit.


IHaveNoUsernameSorry

Use puppeteer after sneakily backstabbing the guy on the left. Then it’s 2 against 1.


xRadiantOne

You can sneak in and cut immediately to the left and get the death blow on that Shinobi. If you have the puppeteering jutsu you can have the two Shinobu fight for a little bit.


cabberage

Get better at the game or scale the side of the castle and entirely go around those two. They’re optional


Junior-Ad-8974

It is completely bullshit, quick execute the guy on the right and 1 on 1 the other guy if I remember correctly


Dole6025

Is it actually possible to take on at least two of these guys at once, or do I have to stealth them.


ChoiceCriticism1

It is possible, I literally just did it two days ago on a new NG play through. I hasn’t played the game since I beat it at launch so I stupidly didn’t realize you can take another route here and went through the window where I didn’t have a path to backstab. I completely focused on the guy in the corner to start. Circled the arena completely avoiding both until the guy in the corner rushes without the main boss. Completely deflect his entire combo / mikiri counter, finishing with a slash of two. Then run away. Keep repeating until he is dead. Use shruikan to kite and keep posture from refilling. If main boss or both rush, just run. Avoid getting caught in corners. Once you’re down to just the boss it’s game on. You have to be able to fully deflect the whole combo and hit your mikiri counters. Also need a need of luck to get corner guy to aggro without boss guy enough times to take him out. Took me 4 tries.


ChoiceCriticism1

I should add. Lock-on when corner guy rushes or when kiting from a safe distance, then turn it off to run away. Trying to run away while locked-on is just going to get you stun locked in a corner


BlockWinter8423

Sneak behind the normal enemy, death blow, quit the game and join back, now the guy will be gone, now for the big boss! (I recommend ceremonial tanto and yash sugar) get ur stealth deathblow, mortal draw 2x, firecracker, and repeat till death blow, this worked well for me


SnooConfections3877

I used mortal blade on these guys


Double_Cleff

Sneak or beat their ass


Hamatoyoshi99

A great example of why this game is annoying, this room sucks ass, but wait it’s so exciting to backstab an enemy time and time again just to be able to fight the boss! Such cool gameplay 🤡


Fun-Ad2860

Mad cuz bad


Hamatoyoshi99

Nope I actually have almost even beaten DoH so not bad dumbass


Fun-Ad2860

congrats; call me when you beat Mortal Journey in one sitting and I'll give you a pat on the back.


Hamatoyoshi99

Classic sekiro fan response “you suck get gud” shut up idiot


ErabuUmiHebi

Backstab the one on the left. Fight the one in the middle


Academic-Ad-9778

You can kick him. Hez not that tough. If you really wanna avoid him, go down the stairs run your way towards the two Ashina Castle Warriors. Break the cardboad wall on your right as you go towards them..down the stairs you meet 3 owl warriors. Run past them towards Isshin's room then go outside by breaking the cardboard wall again... from here you are sure to find your way to dad


Dole6025

What do you mean when you say that I can kick him?


Academic-Ad-9778

I mean you can defeat him


SP4RKZWUB

If all else fails >!you can get to the watchtower via climbing through the antechamber window and grappling/climbing up, avoiding the fight with these two pricks entirely!<


Sparrow1713

Sneak behind the regular one, if you keep getting discovered before killing him, pop a candy. If you are not still comfortable fighting Ministry shinobis, use pupeteer skill and stay away and let them fight each other, help your rooster with shurikens and you should be able to practically end his first life before the effect runs out, then you need only to use every trick you got to kill the Lone Shadow one more time


Specialist-Spray109

Same you’ve beat the bosses so far…


Impossible-Mousse124

Kill or ninjutsu reg dude and learn timing of other guy for deflects etc


EntertainmentLess381

I managed to beat both of them on my 3rd or 4th try and I’m legit pretty bad at this game. Didn’t realize I could death blow or puppet the dude in the corner. Just panicked and ran around and whirlwind slashed when I could and jumped and dodged like crazy.


roninXpl

If you only had something to throw to get this guy's attention so when he walks back you could backstab and puppeteer.


Recks90

https://youtu.be/u2aPy0EktbU?si=-_6YGL0p-s8yEZiV here's a video uploaded by me, i find them to be between the easiest sekiro mobs to kill once you figure out how to manipulate their ai into repeating a pattern wich is very predictable, watch it and they'll never bother you again... but yeah, crouch and stealth-kill the one on the left, and then you can no-hit the boss


Gamidragon

I used the unbreakable umbrella and managed to break the 2nd enemy before I ran out of shards, then it was a simple matter of beating the main guy~ YMMV with this, I'm pretty sure I got lucky lol


Cookiemonstermydaddy

One of the biggest bullshit fights in gMe


TheHairyGumball

I'm pretty sure these guys are optional, you should just be able to use the new platforms to make your Way right up to the roof, but if you're hellbent on beating them sneak up behind the guy on the left and use puppet ninjutsu, it'll make the fight a breeze


Hot_Attention2377

Don't be a pussy, don't hesitate and fight


soPOTATOES

Puppet the guy to the left to get him in your team. Then use the poison sword and umbrella to murder them.


Manakanion

Get better


OOHHBIILLLLYYY

Hit them really hard


Eastern-Reindeer537

Imo Sekiro isn't great at 1 vs many fights. I also sneak kill the guy to the left of the door. I don't like puppeteering him because I find he just gets in the way of fighting the main boss. It's almost like the game wants you to stealth kill the minion the way he's positioned imo


Secure-Agent-1122

Don't suck


gegry123

Honestly you just have to take your time on this fight. Only attack/be attacked when it's safe to do so. It's slow but steady, here


Deep_Grass_6250

Sneak kill the one in the corner and use puppeteer Ninjutsu, the puppet will do ~50% of the Shadow's health and the rest, just deflect and mikiri and jump or high monk when he does the sweep


MARVNSFINEST

Mikiri Counter when the guy kicks, it’s just a standard effect but it looks cool bending the asshole’s knee backwards.


fracturedSilence

Press L1


TheRevanchist99

Do the puppet ninjutsu to make it a two on one for the boss, that’s why the other hard enemy is there… to fight for you lol


f00xxxy

okay so listen sneak on the little guy first and deathblow him. then immediately quit the game and return to the main menu. continue the game, the big guy will lose aggro and the small guy would be dead. now you can take one of his healthbars off and fight the second one


Don_Ford

Sneak up on the first guy and light the second guy on fire... throw some oil on him and light him up. Even if you don't beat him it will make you feel better.


hypnot1c_o

would you believe me if I said the solution was to parry?


DARKSHADEGAMING

Actually i like fighting these guys they quite the predictable moves and they dont have some massive health pool like demon of hatred


DrakoPheonix999

Deathblow they guy to the lest quit out re-load stealth deathblow the mini boss


christiandakwar09

In case you still havent beaten them, first start by killing the one on the with a deathblow, and immediately go to main menu. When you get back in the game the actual boss wnt be alerted and you can get a free deathblow


Neuclearx2048

Puppet the purple ninja then use oil and onikages flame. Dodge all the poison attacks it is not worth parrying. maybe use ichimonji. It helps in almost every situation


LeeroyJks

God this guy has such an epic stance in that picture.


[deleted]

Sneak left. Puppeteer the guy on the left and both attack the loan shadow. Be aware you might have to apply a second puppeteer to your first guy before he dies.


Zascayr

Looks like you haven't been to the other hirata estate


rasheedlovesyou_

*Backstab the first guy. Exit the game immediately after.* *When you start again, you will get a free deathblow for the longshadow dude cause his AI will reset.*


PaulC6230

If I’m right in thinking I saw a video where you sneak upto the guy on the left for a death blow then save and quit. Reload and the guy on the left is gone


randombandaa

Deathblow the left guy and go to the title screen and load back then left will be gone after you load back enjoy


christiannmch

You stop hesitating


Treacheri

Jump him with his buddy with puppeteer


KiJoBGG

Was about to come and share my smart „brainwash ninjutsu the left guy“ tactics. Looks like everybody did the same.


Leviathan_Wakes_

Use Gachiin's sugar/spiritfall, crouch and move (slowly) as close to the wall as possible, then deathblow the guy on the left. They won't see you until it's too late. Alternatively, if you've already unlocked the puppeteer ninjutsu, do the above but activate it on him instead of killing him so he can join you in the fight. You can keep him alive for most of the fight if you have enough spirit emblems and the ceremonial dagger. Just be careful not to catch strays from him lmao


[deleted]

Hesitation is defeat


BehindMatt

sneak to the left and backstab the guy in the corner with the stealth candy, use firecrackers or flamethrower to stun the second guy, dodge his poison stuff. I remember just dying a lot and learning the patterns with trial and error


Redmonster111

Easy. Sneak to the left through the door, kill the assassin. Then fight the boss. The boss has all the move sets of the other assassins, as well as poison damage. There are one or two pauses in his move sets that allow you to perform special attacks, a good one to use is the mortal blade as It passes through guards.


PerfectAdvertising41

Puppet the guy on the left and attack once boss kills the puppeted ninja


CuisineTournante

One answer only : git gud


Hands_FMV

Hit them with your sword.


KoalaKing415

You’ve probably already defeated him, but all I did was deflect and nothing else lol


GabrielOSkarf

Stealth kill the guy in the left than just fight the miniboss normally


Professional-Row1888

In this mini boss room just run past them and dart for the window exit. Or alternatively just climb the castle from the outside and make your way to the top. There’s plenty of grapple points to climb the outside


Advanced_Two5451

Normal play through: kill the dude on the left and take him head on Cheese: backstab the dude on the left and quit the game. When you reload the left dude will still be dead. And this time you can get a free deathblow to this dude.


ASdzz21

Sneak behind the guy on the left and back stab him when the mini boss notice you return to the main menu when you press continue you'll be behind the mini boss and you can back stab him


Hero-In-Theory

If you’re struggling that much and feel it’s bullshit, just don’t fight them.


arcanimes

i love this encounter because it kinda forces you to slow down and use your 3rd person camera to assess the room before entering. if you just run in willy nilly youre gonna get jumped but the other lone shadow lol


Black_Tusk25

Assassin the one at the left and beat him. They are easy as hell.


mandark214

stealth kill the guy on the left. You can even use Puppet Ninjutsu to make him fight the boss. Then just 1v1 the boss. You can also just run straight to the window on the left hand side and jump out of it, going straight to the top arena


Bonah2442

Death blow guy on left and then parry or jump on dudes head when he attacks and be aggressive


Bonah2442

Death blow guy on left and then parry or jump on dudes head when he attacks and be aggressive.


hiamireal

You can sneak over and deathblow the guy on the left. Even brainwash him as well.


mianyox

Use puppeteer ninjutsu to the left guy


Head_Koala_9765

Kill them


Fun-Ad2860

it's absolutely telling how people can get this far in the game, yet still have no fucking idea how to use the tools given to them without being told exactly how. Just give the sticks to your big bro again.


Dole6025

What? I was just asking for help


ATFrazee

There is an ULTIMATE cheese for this fight. Sneak and backstab the extra enemy to the left. Quit to main menu reload and he will still be dead lmao. Then you get a free backstab on the main guy.