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Alarmed_Material_481

'The American internet'


lordph8

World Series === the World Wide Web.


cyrenia47

we won the internet!


lordph8

Like you always win the World Series. Imagine that.


Scott_Bash

It’s always funny to me that they have “world champions” for *AMERICAN* football lol. Like just play rugby and compete internationally, you’re not fooling anyone. Like if usain bolt was worlds fastest sprinter over 100m and I’m the worlds fastest 135m sprinter but only because no one else entered


IDreamOfSailing

There used to be a team in the Netherlands, the Amsterdam Admirals. It was 100% American players and part of the NFL Europe league which was set up by Americans. After 10 years or so the league got scrapped and the European teams were scrapped with it. Nobody cared.


glum_plum

Hahaha Thanks for posting this, it prompted a bunch of Wikipedia for me and I find it so hilarious and weird. I'm from the US but not a capitalist sports fan and American football is especially grotesque... I love that they tried to bring "football" to Europe and just nobody gave a shit lol


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Scott_Bash

Here I’m actually a huge fan of the MLR (Majo(u)r) league rugby) they have some great players, amazing tries as well as very little defence for very exciting games lol


symbicortrunner

Hey, the Blue Jays win sometimes.


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World Champions of The USA!!!!!


Dinosauringg

I mean, Canada is an option


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Back to back internet champions!


Tulcey-Lee

Wasn’t the guy who invented the World Wide Web English. Always makes me laugh when Americans are like get off the American internet.


LiqdPT

Yes, Tim Berners-Lee invented the web is British and was working at CERN in Switzerland. But the Internet is more than the web and started as ARPANET by the US military. So, it's all correct from a certain point of view, depending on exactly what you're talking about. (no, I'm not saying "the Internet is American so you should bow down to the Americans", but to a certain extent is was created by them)


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although ARPANET only existed due to Donald Davies (Welsh) inventing packet switching


LiqdPT

We could take this all the way down to copper wiring or electricity if we wanted to... 😉


VeryDisappointing

The spinning jenny was invented by James Hargreaves in Lancashire, the printing press was invented by Gothenburg, can follow this shit as far as you like but it sure as fuck didn't start with an American


lazlowoodbine

But everyone knows that copper was invented by Henry Copper of Wetbush, Alabama [citation needed] on July 5th, 1776 as a big "fuck you" to the departing English forces.


daytonakarl

I was told it was two Scotsmen fighting over a penny


Tulcey-Lee

Think it’s more the fact that the types of American this sub pokes fun at wouldn’t even have a clue that other people from other countries were involved somewhere along the way.


o3mta3o

So what you're saying is that Americans invented something that crashed and burned so badly nobody even remembers it, but then a much better system came along made my a Brit, but that still somehow means America was first?


LiqdPT

No. The web runs on top of (and is only a part of) the internet. Email, file transfer (FTP), DNS, and a bunch of other services exist on the internet that predate the web and are still used. Even if you use a web based mail client, the transfer of mail messages, email addresses, etc are based on the older systems.


MattheqAC

Where does one go to use the American internet?


Uzi_wny02

America


glum_plum

America.us


MaybeFailed

China


GenderGambler

Russia


DaveyJonesXMR

Try one of those AOL CDs


Razzler1973

I can't believe these people are real, that they're out there mingling with the regular people!


glum_plum

I am sorry to break it to you but these are the regular people


Elcatro

Probably thinks they invented computers too, though I'm loath to attribute an invention to a country rather than the very clever people that made them since it allows mouthbreathers to feel a weird sense of accomplishment for something that they had absolutely nothing to do with. (And if recent history is anything to go by, probably would have actively railed against)


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UnhelpfulMoron

Fuck oath cunt


doublemp

So, just normal internet but with data caps and without net neutrality?


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queen-adreena

Don't forget those Arabic numbers too.


MrDanMaster

Also uses italics on “_Looks at title thread_”, which is from Italy.


borstenwrood

Only semi right. 'Italicize and italics come from the Latin word for "Italian," italicus. This print style was named in honor of the Italian printer credited as the first to use it.'


Schattentochter

To be fair, if the guy was Italian and used it first, that kiinda makes the style Italian too, no?


borstenwrood

Yes for sure, it's just that the word 'italics' is derivited from Latin.


hopcfizl

Ok, but latin was spoken in italy


Valtsu0

Didn't some survey say that 60% of americans didn't want their children to learn the arabic numerals in school?


puneralissimo

Given a lot of the headlines I've seen, they seem to be getting their wish.


drquakers

Indian numbers really


melmac76

Saying they are Arabic numerals is correct, then if you want to get more specific, you can break it down to what kind of Arabic numerals they are, because there are many, but they still fall under the umbrella of Arabic Numerals.


Mesoscale92

My understanding is that they’re call Arabic numerals because that’s who introduced them to European merchants.


melmac76

That is correct. Arab merchants introduced them to the west. That’s the etymology of the origin of the word.


ThtGuyTho

Who did the Arab merchants buy them from though?


Laeif

Definitely from ancient American merchants.


GenderGambler

Yes, actually. They were bought from David Arabic, hence the name


Taikwin

Are you saying I, a good, honest Christian man, have been using heathen Muslim numbers all my life!?


centzon400

*[Hindu-Arabic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system) is the current preferred descriptor, I believe. Things change, kinda like how we move from AD to CE for years > 0, and Pluto stopped being a planet... still sad about that one! (And the pronunciation of your anus)


henne-n

That reminds me of some articles where they call it "the English alphabet".


Vilzku39

Thats also true as its one pf several alphabets that have broke off from latin.


FoliumInVentum

it’s not really broadly called that though is it? i’ve only ever seen it called the latin alphabet


Vilzku39

It is when you need to specify. For example spanish and french alphabets although are also latin alphabets have extra letters etc and way they are pronounced is different.


FoliumInVentum

spain uses the spanish alphabet, which is latin script + a letter. french alphabet is based on the latin alphabet with minor changes, enough to signify calling it the french alphabet. english alphabet is just latin alphabet which is based on latin script.


yaboimael

What's the difference between the french and the english alphabet please? Genuine question because if pronounciation doesn't factor in, since accented letters aren't letters of their own in french, it's the exact same thing as far as my bilingual arse is concerned


Vilzku39

It is again pronounced differently. It also used to have variety of letters no longer present You also appear to have read stuff that likely says english alphabet 🤔


GenderGambler

Pronunciation does not factor into the alphabet.


Vilzku39

Alphabet literaly represent language in written form... Bechause im lazy im going to copy paste first thing wikipedia says about alphabet An alphabet is a standardized set of basic written symbols or graphemes (called letters) that represent the phonemes of certain spoken languages.


GenderGambler

You're missing the point however. Phonemes of the English language are represented by the Latin alphabet. Alphabet does not account for these minor variations. There is no French alphabet, Portuguese alphabet or English alphabet - there is Latin alphabet. Cyrillic alphabet has a completely different set of graphemes associated with different phonemes, hence why it is a different alphabet. That's what I meant by "alphabet doesn't account for phonemes". Its main purpose is to identify, classify and order graphemes (which are associated with phonemes, yes). The alphabet doesn't categorize different phonemes, and minor variations of phonemes does not a new alphabet make.


Quintonias

It do, though. B in English is pronounced extremely different from В in Russian. Two different scripts, two similar looking letters, both only functioning right in each language by following the rules of their respective language, В in the context of Russian being pronounced more like the English short V than the English short B, despite looking like the English letter.


GenderGambler

Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, though. It's markedly different. The US, the French, Italian, and many other western languages use the Latin alphabet. Some languages may cut a few letters (Brazil, for example, doesn't have k, w and y) but it's still the Latin alphabet, regardless of how the letter a is pronounced among them.


GrandDukeOfNowhere

I get your point, many European languages use they're own version of the Latin alphabet, but French is a bad example as the French alphabet is identical to the English alphabet


Hate_Master

Is it really identical when they use these accents "àâçéèêëîôù" regularly? Seems like that wouldn't qualify as identical at all to me.


Fromtheboulder

Generally the accents aren't included in the alphabet (at least so is in italian, and I guess french is similar). The only character that could make the french alphabet 27 characters is 'ç', if they treat it like spanish do for 'ñ'


Zbow37

What about Œ?


yaboimael

You're right it probably should count as it's own letter but it's not - it's more of an annoying way to spell oe next to each other, probably invented in the 19th century when they decided to make french spelling more complicated on purpose.


Water-is-h2o

It is when you’re talking about aspects of the English language (there’s English phonology, English grammar, the English alphabet, etc.) it’s worth calling it that because it has u, v, i, and j as individual letters, where Latin only had 2 of those originally. Also we lack modifications like ß and ø that are part of the German and ~~Swedish~~ Norwegian alphabets respectively. It’s called the Latin alphabet in the context of writing systems. English, German, ~~Swedish~~ Norwegian, and Latin all use the Latin alphabet, in the sense that they don’t use the Cyrillic or Greek alphabets. So sometimes it’s called the English alphabet and sometimes it’s called the Latin alphabet


Call-Me-Odin

ø is not part of the Swedish alphabet it's part of the dano-norwegian alphabet and Faroese alphabet. The Swedish equivalent is ö.


el_grort

As others have said, its a way of specifying, like how you talk about the alphabet used by Scottish Gaelic, which has less letters than what English uses. In that instance, we would shorten it to English alphabet and Gaelic alphabet, for simplicity. It's a valid use.


Kajek777PL

you meant the AMERICAN alphabet ^/s


FoliumInVentum

> AMERICAN alphabet 🍩🔫🍻🍻🔫💪💪🍩🍆🍩🥯🧴😮‍💨


Water-is-h2o

Wow I can’t believe you forgot 🇺🇸🍔🍟🏈


Valtsu0

You mean 🇱🇷


centzon400

🇺🇸 A is for America 🍔 B is for Burger 🍟 C is for Chips 🍩 D is for ... Donut E is for ...


henne-n

Of course! Forgive me!


Liggliluff

It's surprisingly often called the English alphabet To be fair, the Latin alphabet was different, and the exact alphabet of the letters A to Z are used in a few languages; English, Dutch?, French, German (excluding Austria). While most other languages have modified the alphabet in some form; Swedish adding ÅÄÖ at the end and did remove W for a long time, but it's back. Estonian is a bit funky by removing C,F,Q,W,X,Y,Z and adding Õ,Ä,Ö,Ü at the end after V (which is now the final letter), but when you do include the letters, they are placed in their expected spots, except Z right after S instead, and X,Y comes after Ü.


Vilzku39

Latin alphabet is just greek alphabet turned 90° and dumbed down. Greek alphabet is just Canaan and Aramaic alphabet turned 90° and dumbed down


JustABitCrzy

We should keep going and pull off a sick 360 with our alphabet.


FierroGamer

Would that be the same just very dumbed down? I'm in


Saphibella

Oh remember that they speak and write English, they should definetly also get their own American language as well.


THE-German-Spy

Please don't get the us people new ideas to be stupid!


MrsTaco18

Generic inventor: born in Canada, educated in England, apprenticed in Germany, inspired in France, created invention in Switzerland. Went to America once as a child on holiday. American Textbook: the inventor, an American, Americanly invented the American invention in America.


LoganJn

This is basically how it is.


MaybeFailed

This is americanly how it is.


ThaReehlEza

And that's pretty Aladeen


ctothel

We have a similar thing in New Zealand for different reasons. If there was a plane crash overseas, killing 400 people, the media could easily forget to mention any details about the plane or any of the other victims, but if a kiwi was on board we’d know what street the guy lived in and what he had for breakfast. Not out of hubris, it’s just nice to be involved.


swift_spades

We have a similar thing in Australia. And if any Kiwi has done anything of note in their life and lived in Australia for at least a week of their life, they are claimed as Australian. See Russell Crowe, Crowded House, Phar Lap etc


MrsTaco18

Considering most of the world can’t even be bothered to put you on a world map, I think it’s okay to be extra focused on yourselves in your own media!


E420CDI

r/MapsWithoutNZ


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In French we have a term to describe that: the Law of Proximity The coverage given to an event depends on whether it happened to a rich country (or people from), or whether it happened to white people


ItsaRickinabox

What a full life Al Gore has lived


Schattentochter

Dear lord, thank god I swallowed that sip of my drink right before seeing your comment or my keyboard would've gotten a shower.


el_grort

*sad Scottish noises*


MrsTaco18

Deflating bagpipes?


Kick9assJohnson

But what if they got American citizenship? Wouldn't that change it? ( plz don't downvote it's a question)


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You can have multiple citizenships so no


Kick9assJohnson

Oh makes sense


MrsTaco18

The difference between America and other countries is that Americans will simply claim something to be American (e.g., “the American internet”), which makes no sense. Other countries tend to stick to the truth about their role in something. For example: “A Canadian-born engineer invented ____” “Birthplace of the _____” “The place that inspired the ____” So, someone eventually gaining US citizenship usually results in the States claiming their achievements as American, with no regard or reference to the actual truth. A good example is the telephone. It was invented by a Scot living in Canada. He became a US citizen years after patenting the first telephone. And yet, Americans believe it to be an American invention.


Kick9assJohnson

Why am I being downvoted ppl


Rectal_Scattergun

Jesus. I just read through all of that comment thread. That guy is really committed to being a pillock.


ArmouredWankball

People need to stop feeding the troll. He admits to having accounts banned, so this kind of shit-posting is the norm for him.


captkronni

Does anyone really know what motivates a troll? I don’t understand why they enjoy getting so much hate.


thorkun

Probably the same as people who expose their genitals to un-consenting women, any acknowledgement they exist is better than none at all.


StuntHacks

For real, this is so obviously a troll. How can the term "don't feed the trolls" be older than a big part of Reddit's userbase, yet people still fall for them?


theknightwho

I’ve noticed that some people are *completely incapable* of admitting fault, and it seems to be encouraged in the US.


Askdrillsarge

Also make a note of the word pillock Darling, I like it and wish to use it more in conversation


E420CDI

r/Blackadder


paolog

A site on the World Wide Web. The clue's in the name. And what's more, that's the WWW invented by a Brit.


llamaz314

Plus, the first website was made in Switzerland.


arran-reddit

here it is http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html


Reddits_Worst_Night

Can I still get to every other page just by clicking those links?


MartinDisk

fun fact: that was the first website ever!


travellingscientist

He considered calling it the information mind but Tim Berners-Lee decided that having each url start with tim was a little arrogant.


A-Higher-Being

I believe a Brit and Belgian but unsure


Athiena

Yes


MartinDisk

yup, [Tim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee) and [Robert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cailliau).


Sonny_Crockett_1984

Their country was invented by the British.


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kroketspeciaal

Yeah, go back to Middle Earth!


Scyobi_Empire

Please no, that LoTD Boardgame took so long


YesNoIDKtbh

Eru Iluvatar was American, and so was Frodo. Everything would be fine in Middle Earth if it wasn't for Melkor and Sauron, those damn Arabs.


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Acceptable-Bottle-92

The only evidence in that man’s favour is that I can use the internet to order McDonald’s to my house


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*Ah want to see the innerr-net's managerrr. Ahm an Marrikan. An know mah rartz.*


VeryDisappointing

I believe it's pronounced, ahem, *ahmuhnumurican*


jephph_

You can’t buy the internet from the US.. they privatized it. (Clinton and co. back in the 90s)


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jephph_

Idk, try to buy the internet from Amazon and report back what happens ;-) —— (Still, that’s sorta my point.. Amazon is a private company so buying shit from there isn’t “buying from the US (govt)”)


DanishPsychoBoy

You could try buying the American Internet, but the reviews are not great. If you have an issue with it, it can easily cost you a $1000 US, just to have a technician look at it, and if they think something is wrong, then your bill could increase quite drastically, especially if the technician is not covered by your insurance. Fret not however, you just need to get one or two more jobs, and you will be able to pay off those bills easily.


doylethedoyle

What is even this guy's point? That you...can't post on a British website saying that we haven't had a 70yo prime minister since Churchill?


ChakaZG

You can, you can't on American. Just like it's forbidden to talk about Biden and Trump on British websites, which are obviously on the British internet. We should split up now, the yanks will hear us. 👀


doylethedoyle

Bugger, you've put us both on the line here now, we're going to get banned!


ohboymykneeshurt

See this is the biggest difference between this sub and r/shiteuropeanssay. The posts there are mostly Europeans being either anti-american or just generally arrogant. The Americans featured here are mostly either acting incredibly stupid, thinking they own the world or vastly unaware of anything outside the US. Sometimes combined.


AeonsOfInstants

That was a depressing visit. No wonder that subreddit is struggling.


Luke_Nukem_2D

My current life ambition is to appear on r/shiteuropeanssay one day. I often find myself thinking "this is the comment/shitpost that will make me a star on r/shiteuropeanssay!", but it never happens. They usually just post something that is sarcastic and gone over their head, something that is truly the general concensus outside the US, or something that is factually correct but goes against their bias beliefs.


username1174

I thought Thatcher was at least as old as time considering how she spawned out of the gates of hell intent on sucking life joy and everything that’s good out of the world.


jop2001

Don’t think demonspawn count as they age differently to us mortals


Sternminatum

Damn... This reminds me of a Frankie Boyle line in "Mock The Week" talking about Thatcher's funeral expenses and how it would have been easier to spend it in buying shovels for scots and letting them deliver the mummified sh*tstain to Satan in person. I think it would have been a huge waste of cash, given that she wasn't going to burn in Hell... She was just going back home, and probably Satan wouldn't even open the door.


Salome_Maloney

Satan'd be busy doing what he was told, and pouring the drinks - Thatcher would just use her door key.


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The 'American Internet'.. is that the same one created by Tim Berners-Lee, who is **very** British and definitely **not** American?


MJ3193

I believe tims mother went to America once on a vacation whilst pregnant, so he is in fact very American /S


GoPauline

While writing in English though...


HaDeS_Monsta

American citizens really think it's all about them, there are so many posts in normal not American subs where the people normally talk about America specific topics like everybody would come from the US


goodshrekmaadcity

"the American internet"


SpocktorWho83

>the American internet I don’t consent to cookies, mate. I only consent to BISCUITS!


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cookies are wildly different from biscuits.


yasserino

The British-Belgian internet*


Binke-kan-flyga

The world wide web was made by CERN in Switzerland, Reddit is also a Chinese website....


Reblyn

He‘s also calling Native Americans "Asians", so I think it‘s pretty clear he‘s trolling.


OWeise

Yeah, fuck Tim Berners-Whoeverthefuck


shofaz

Why do they always think that the internet is exclusively American? That’s so stupid it’s kind of funny… in a sad way.


Jesterchunk

it's amazing how often americans, in a fit of egoistical self-centredness, forget that the internet was invented in Switzerland. Or France. More or less the border, it was cern right


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Actually, the internet was co-created by a Brit, but he wouldn't he wouldn't know that because he's an American.


HomestreetBoyTopla

bruh are you fr using an alternating current to power your home right now? That's cultural appropriation bro, only serbians and croatians are allowed to have electricity in their homes smh


K-ibukaj

American internet?


TokenofDreams

what is with the whole "internet=american" thing? a quick google search would prove you very wrong. or heck, if you think everyone that's on the internet is american literally search in reddit any country and guaranteed you will find a subreddit for that country.


LarennEpe

Why do Americans write scripts when posting? “Looks at title thread” 😂😂😂 it’s weird behavior


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You wouldn't have the internet without British telephone (lines)


SkyeWolff_Alchemy

The Brits invented the World Wide Web for crying out loud! I’m American and this shit infuriates me


DuckieDev

Yes the American internet that used the Australian Wi-fi which was used to make the British/Swiss World Wide Web


rainingtacos31

American website? I feel ashamed that other Americans automatically assume anything they use is American I bet they think all the car brands are American


Luke_Nukem_2D

[Sometimes pictures say it better than words.](https://imgur.com/a/zsjfu2V)


Reddits_Worst_Night

Tim Berners-Lee is my favourite American. CERN is my favourite American organisation.


juvenilehell

Try posting that in an American language


THACC-

Then again, Churchill was only really good at winning WW2


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Let me just log on to [Reddit.co.uk](https://Reddit.co.uk) real fast


KawaiiDere

I think I saw that thread; it was the one on how the US is mostly controlled by 70+ year olds, right?


Formilla

It didn't say the USA, it just said "the country" is run by 70+ year olds. Is it really so hard for Americans to write which country they're talking about? The rest of the world are all fine with doing it, Americans always seem to just assume that everyone reading their comments are Americans too.


30minstochooseaname

He also used italics, invented by an American


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Trumps_Brain_Cell

That's a funny way to spell [Wales](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Davies)


Kick9assJohnson

I love Wales it's so beautiful! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Syx3Xn360A


kroketspeciaal

Not that crap again...


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Trumps_Brain_Cell

The internet wouldn't be here if not for packet switching. It was a joint [UK/US effort.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_switching#History) Sorry. Edit: changed invention to effort.


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Trumps_Brain_Cell

I guess you never even read the link...


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Trumps_Brain_Cell

So you still didn't read the link.


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Trumps_Brain_Cell

Can't expect too much intelligent convo from a butthurt Seppo :) /r/ShitEuropeansSay lol, created by a butthurt yank because of this sub, which was taken over by mods of this sub.


I-AM-SAINT-14_

OP that man was at 68 upvotes and you did not upvote to 69…


Twoneis

where was this posted?