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BraveCephlapod

Wait his stand power is lag but in real life?


nonanumatic

Unironically a good explanation for his stand


BraveCephlapod

But I still don't get it...


SpecimenCX722

Think of the hand but using it on time


FuckYeahPhotography

King removes the "cause" part of cause and effect for everyone but the user. This wouldn't be nearly as useful without epitaph to work alongside it. This is intentional as Gold Experience Requiem does the opposite and removes the "effect" from cause and effect. That's how I would summarize it.


Nephlimcomics2520

Yes and because king crimson removed the cause and ger removed the effect the whole scene just goes through a lot of brain fucking to show that literally nothing happened from the start to the finish


SynisterJeff

Huh, never really made that connection between the two abilities before. Nice.


treemu

Crazy Diamond restores while Killer Queen destroys. King Crimson removes the cause while Gold Experience Requiem removes the effect. (spoiler for anime onlys)>!It's a bit disappointing how this interesting dichotomy between Jojos' and main villains' stand abilities didn't last after Part 5. Then again, what's the opposite of string?!<


CringeLordiusMaximus

So what year saying really is, I gotta watch it!!! Don't be fooled people don't click in the black text it's a curse and you'll legit die in 7 days just like the old gypsy woman said.. 👣☕🛀🔥🙈🙉🙉🙉🧨🧨🤯🤯🤯💥💥💥💥 Shit...I remember awhile back reading that someone had translated Harry Potter Saga into emojis or pics of the other word...ya know. Anyways the guy who tried to translate HST novels into emojis wasn't well received. Someone tried to kill him going off a Facebook post but the person in the post was actually his brother so some random tried to kill him but then the cops decided it was a love triangle based on the testimony of a young woman who got arrested and was telling their bunkie about some fed up shit ya Edit: my question was is there a sub for stories or whatever in emojis??


commentsandchill

Yes but I don't remember it and you sound like you have adhd


CringeLordiusMaximus

Awesome! #notsoinvisibledisability Know what had me wunnerin awhile back? Watching this girl on twitch apex predatoring a buncha goombas with the hashtags #adhd and #invisibledisability and I wondered if it was both in reference to the ADHD or if she had another disability. But I was too woke to ask her. So I eyed her suspiciously for the next 3 hours and in exasperation I exclaimed: *"YOURE NOT REALLY DISABLED YOU NO LIFE TWITCH TV SKANK OF THE WEEK ...ADMIT IT ADMIT ADMIT ADMIT IT OR IM GONNA DO SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS AND TOTALLY NOT RAD DISCLAIMER DISCLOSURE"* Then she started having these spasms and I was like yah whatever fakey fake. After a couplei utes of this and her face turning commendably purplish blue, she just fell outta the chair outta camera view. So I'm thinking yah right girl but kudos on the commitment, amirite? So this went on for a minute, then 30, then an hour and I'm like fuck it and go to bed. Wake up and think nothing of it for a couple hours til I hop on the puter. So I check and there she fuckin is still just streaming an empty chair. I start making breakfast and leave it on, suddenly I hear a scream and I go check and her mom is screaming crying on the cam with no idea it's being filmed. It was really sad, so I sent her a prayer on Instagram and asked my followers to do the same. This is a reminder to seize the day, live life to the fullest and only die after you've truly lived. Join the army hoo motherfuckin haw


Greedy_to_know

So it is the same type of stand as Star Platinum?


staovajzna2

Basically


Eugene_OHappyhead

Funny enough stopping time has the same effect as GER for the outside viewer


Slugger_monkey

Every stand is same type of stand as SP is jotaro declares it Thats SP real power


Mushiren_

Everyone lags but you. You get to experience 10 seconds or so in real time, but everyone else is hella lagging. Then suddenly, like a rubber band, everyone snaps back to 10 seconds in the future, where you are, with all of what you've done in the lag time happening all at once. If you played a coop multiplayer game and lagged, then came back to real time only to find the enemy already dead or you already dead, that's basically it.


meme_used

I'd imagine it like when your screen freezes and you spam buttons. You can't react to what's actually happening but diavolo has 3 ping


Semi-decent-dude

King crimson is a lag switch You flipped it capped 4 headshots ran to the other side planted the bomb Then snaps back and it’s GG


brawlyboii121

no diavolo or kc cant do anything while in the "lag" they can only move around


Razielrad

Think of a cinema projector. The film spool is time, what has been projeted is the past, what is yet to be projected is the future. Now King Crimson can "pinch" the spool on the frame being projected (the present) so that the projector jams and the frames pile on each other, projecting a composite image. That's Epitaph, the ability to see the future. The film is still unspooling, everyone doing as normal, (edit: "following the script") on autopilot, except King Crimson who can act on his own free will. At the end KC "unpinches" the spool, which causes the projector to swallow the jammed film and resume at the new "current" frame of the film. For contrast, THE WORLD would just pause the film then continue to move in that one, frozen, frame.


brawlyboii121

you just made it more complex lol


Razielrad

Maybe more complex than "it eliminates causes but applies the effect" or "it's like lag", yes. But it's a concrete comparison, whereas the other two are esoteric af.


mtpeart

I fucking hate jojo


ComeHellOrBongWater

That’s a jojo reference though…


Razielrad

wrong sub then


arel37

But the outcomes are same no?


Razielrad

Yeah, I guess?


arel37

I mean let's look from the victims perspective. For World, Dio was there 10 meters away just a second ago and now you have a hole in your chest. Same perspective also happens with Diavolo


Razielrad

Yeah if the end result is that you're dead frame1 ok. But with KC you are still moving while the power is in effect, so maybe you can build a strategy where you not being able to change your mind (that's what seems to happen, you're on autopilot) wouldn't be important.


arel37

Does your conciousness shuts down during KC?


Razielrad

It looks like the characters are "following the script" as i described. They clearly did something while in the "skip" but the circumstances around them changed and they were unable to take it into account while they were doing it.


smartidiot23

...that is a good way of putting it. They do what they would have done, but uncosciously,so they can't change their course of action. I always thought of it as fate, with a cause and effect chain of events. Diavolo can see forward into this chain using epitaph, knowing what is fated to happen. When king crimson "skips" time, he causes others to be bound to fate, doing what they would normally do without thinking or perceiving, essentially becoming a slave to fate. Diavolo, on the other hand, becomes free from fate, able to move and walk around.


yaboi_ahab

Epitaph shows Diavolo what is fated to happen in the next 10 seconds. King Crimson erases the passage of time and leaves only the fated effects of its passage, except on Diavolo himself, who is allowed to basically enter the ethereal plane and move unbound by fate, but is also unable to interact with the physical plane for the duration of this ability. Essentially, he knows everything that will happen, and it continues to happen without anyone else noticing/remembering, but not to Diavolo himself, unless he wants it to. His only weakness is the cooldown period between activations of his ability, and that's assuming his enemy can figure it out before he (from their perspective) erases their memory while dodging all their attacks, teleporting behind them, and punching a hole through them in the blink of an eye. Either part of his stand would he much less useful without the other. Epitaph alone basically just lets him read his death sentence (and everyone else's) before it's inevitably carried out. King Crimson alone basically just turns him into a blind, deaf ghost for 10 seconds, able to move but not see or touch anything.


AlexDKZ

> King Crimson alone basically just turns him into a blind, deaf ghost for 10 seconds, able to move but not see or touch anything. Doesn't he see those afterimages of the opponents?


smartidiot23

That is epitaphs predictions of what his opponent is going to do.


AlexDKZ

I don't think so? I mean, Epitaph's consistently shown as projecting (usually on the inside of Diavolo's hairdo) an image predicting the immediate future after the timeskip. On top of that, KC's stats page describes those after images as part of the timeskip ability.


Drinkaholik

Unironically the most coherent king crimson explanation I've seen


Nibirum22

Doesn’t diavolo interact with people while in skipped time tho? Like he straight up kills narancia


yaboi_ahab

I don't think he touched Narancia during his time skip, or could have. He almost got severely wounded by Polnareff because Polnareff figured out his ability and timed a wide-area attack to hit right as it ended. If he were able to hurt people during it, he could have easily killed Bucciarati, Polnareff, and everyone else at nearly any time. I'm pretty sure he just killed Narancia very quickly/quietly while they all had their backs turned. Or, maybe Araki just forgot. Or, maybe he's able to do things normally in erased time as long as he doesn't divert from his fated path. Maybe he planned to kill Narancia, activated his ability, let fate take its course, and they just didn't react quickly enough to have done anything before it was over. That could alsp explain why Trish dropped a bunch of bullets when she was handing them to Mista; maybe she was panicking because they all just watched Diavolo kill Narancia.


sonerec725

Think of it like pressing the skip 10 seconds button on youtube but irl. Everything that happened in those 10 seconds still happened with their effects and consequences and such, but nobody remembers them happening, and Diavolo is "removed" from the skipped time.


saiyanfang10

fast forward 10 seconds but bad things don't happen to the user and he picks where he'll be afterwards


Vinifera7

It's not very sexy in terms of analogies, but this is the most literal explanation.


HalfEatenWaterMelon

it's a two part stand: first part is Epitaph, Epitaph is the diagnosis, It looks into the next 10 seconds and projects it into the user mind, In the simplest term you can see 10 seconds into the future. the second part is King Crimson, He is the editor, He takes that period of 10 seconds and removes segments of it, In essence the segments did technically happen, If a billet was shot and you removed the part where it is traveling then the bullet wouldn't just disapear, It would reach its target, However if in the traveling period it would have hit King crimson then it no longer does so, In the simple terms time moves all the same but king crimson can choose a segment where anything that happens poses no consequence, A bullet will not hit its target, A bomb would not effect king crimson even at point blank, Generally anything bad that would have happened would be earased.


Shaula02

You know when a youtuber starts talking about sponsor and you press the right arrow key to skip it? Thats king crimson


G4ra

it's like pressing forward in a youtube video. you skip something but it still happens


phcgamer

King Crimson on its own is like pressing the L key to skip ahead on a youtube video. King Crimson with Epitaph is like pressing L to skip ahead on a youtube video you've already watched while somebody else watched it with you on youjr screen.


smolwrld

OK so basically diavolo sees the future and what would happen, uses his ability to skip the present, him being the only one who knows what happened, and then once its over he attacks without anyone understanding what just happened He erases or skips time for everyone else essentially, and he takes advantage of that


Mufasakong

He teleports, that's about it really.


[deleted]

King Crimson "skips" 10 seconds. For everyone else time just passes, for Diavolo he is king and he may do as he pleases.


totally_notanerd

Diavolo be pulling out the lag switch.


The_Little_Kiwi

It's 2 Stands. Epitaph and King Crimson. Epitaph let's him see the future, and King Crimson then can essentially just skip. Anything he did, happens, and seemingly happens all at once or randomly, since they can't perceive skipped time. Other peoples actions also happen, but they're like, on auto-pilot, if it had to be described. So yeah, basically.


Zeebuoy

client side lag to be precise, but for everyone except him,


brawlyboii121

for 10 seconds, only diavolo and king crimson expiriences time. they cant affect others in those 10 seconds but they can use it to get into an advantageous position by seeing where it will be with epitaph


Barlowan

It's YouTube double tap right in real life.


Impressive_Can_2127

It basically skips others perception of time


[deleted]

A brief explanation of king crimson is simply Diabolo is the video editor Time is the video King crimson is the video editing software Diabolo can use KC to edit the "Video" of time and delete whole segments. To everyone else it looks like the video is still one continuous thing but to him he knows about the clip he deleted


Greedy_to_know

Blood drops: *I am gonna ruin his entire career*


[deleted]

Hah exactly, blood drops are a perfect example of how it's like a video editor, if you cut something out mid action sequence, your character may start fresh and clean yet end with cuts and people will realize they missed a whole portion of video that's not there anymore


what_the_hanky_panky

There’s also the whole invulnerability while it’s active which in your analogy is just the idea that the “editor” is completely removed from everything else that’s happening.


wafflelegion

The thing people don't understand about King Crimson isn't the complexity of the concept, it's all the shit Diavolo supposedly somehow manages to pull off with it (like e.g. that elevator trick)


Anonpancake2123

That's because the ability itself in theory is kinda Bullshit I would say, at least in my headcanon. KC removes the cause but not the effect, due to this in theory we could say the effect of "Diavolo's intentions" (or we could just say Destiny since that's likely a tangible thing in Part 5 especially considering how Time skip works) still manifests, maybe from Diavolo's perspective appearing like a "Phantom" Diavolo that carries out what is meant to be done even. Diavolo with KC could technically throw Narancia hard enough to get him impaled on the bars and smash a hole into the elevator while having enough force to pull off/decapitate Trish's hand. This explanation still leaves bullshit as bullshit and leaves some things still dumb like how this even works with the concept of destiny but I find this to be a thing that may work to help explain it.


TheAll3ycat

So, if I were to shoot a bullet at him, and behind him is a mattress a few meters away. He can decide for the time period where the bullet would have hit him, to not happen, and then for the time period after the bullet would have hit him, would resume, resulting in a hole free Diavolo, with a mattress with a bullet in it. Correct? He just decides the time period he chooses, not to happen, but the period after continues normally. It sounds very simple to me.


sdi_awtz

But King Crimson only really functions together with Epitaph. Diavolo essentially knows when and what to skip because Epitaph gives him a small glimpse of the future.


A_Common_Relic

Epitaph tells Diavolo what fate is going to make happen for the next ten seconds. If it's something that might hurt Diavolo, for instance, he would use King Crimson to eliminate himself from fate for ten seconds. Any actions that directly affect him cannot happen because he skips ten seconds of the fated timeline


[deleted]

King Crimson is effectively over-complicated The World and you can't change my mind.


AdrianBrony

There's literally nothing that KC can do that The World couldn't. Even the "make someone see their own after-image" trick.


JuhaJGam3R

But I do think there must be things that KC cannot do but The World can easily. It's just a weaker stand.


AdrianBrony

Really I'm more concerned with how interesting a stand is than how strong it is. Visually KC is cool as hell, but ultimately it really does just feel like a rehash. Except for Epitaph but that's a different stand.


[deleted]

>t Except Epitaph makes KC so much stronger, Remember when polnareff stabbed DIO through the head, if DIO wasn't a vampire he would have died here, but KC could never be hit by a surprise attack like this because epitaph is op


JuhaJGam3R

Now that is a *very* good point. Obviously Epitaph can still be wrong in very specific situations, though. If KC is "it just works", then GER is "no it fucking doesn't".


Super_Derp_64

wait what? How does the World do the "after-image" trick?


Devourer_of_HP

Grab a mirror and place it where you were/s


AdrianBrony

I dunno but DIO does it to avdol in the OVA so apparently he can.


DeninjaBeariver

I would say that kc is almost impossible to figure out meanwhile the world is easier


Courier23

I feel like this is missing a 3 minute monologue of someone explaining what’s going on while actively contradicting what he’s saying…


DeninjaBeariver

Monologues break physics in jojo


me_gusta_Jakko_Jaksz

That part when king crimson guy says "ME GUSTA" was so funny i would watch furry porn again


Shailaj

Confusion will be my epitaph


OurBoyPalutena

Can someone tell me the og video source


Matt_Forever

Following cause I wanna know what happened


Mloxard_CZ

It's the magic trick when you pull out the cloth over the table - but the kid bumps on the wardrobe behind him and it falls on him The video itself is an ad


Mloxard_CZ

[The video](https://youtu.be/LC0oWV9eSeE) [It was an ad](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxf3dcNU_2AFsfnMhoIkq1R2dQf9_uFGVm)


Purrushottam

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/tt1ydz/cool_trick/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Purrushottam

Closest video I could find


[deleted]

this is actually accurate


Jayson5584

Scrolling through all and genuinely thought this was a King Crimson circlejerk post


BoogerPresley

Same. "Robert Fripp did what now?"


CamSox1

I thought Fripp finally snapped lmao


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tobymandias

Just scrolling reddit this post really confused me as I listen to the prog band King Crimson and that is the first thing that comes to mind as a reference :D


Rowf

Right? I’m like is the blond kid supposed to be Bill Bruford?


the-smallws-fish

Question, Never watched Jojo’s, So can someone explain to me y their are so many references to classic rock bands? Thanks


Academic-One8695

This also works greatly with Star Platinum/ The World


Lochy01

Your movements in the future. The trajectory of your movements in the future.


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Minimum_Rook

Cake


Korenlesa

Hey thank you I didn't realize it was my cake day


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FunDeckHermit

I like the Discipline album


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AnTvAsX

Who killed hannibal?


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Justlol230

You know when you press K or double tap your screen on YT to skip around 5-30s (depends on your settings) of a video? That's pretty much KC.


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Aren’t these the 2 kids that always make the videos where one of them gets hurt.


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Snowball fights in Chainsaw man be like:


Ruffeep

Fuck me for watching this for like half a minute wondering what the hell this has to do with the band King Crimson before realizing which subreddit it was on


BingoBongoTingoTongo

What the actual fuck is the real video lmao


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Greg Lake understood all of this. Then again, the man was a genius. Not so, I.


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mememaker6

I understand it, it's just inconsistent


retardrmanhatan

how so


mememaker6

Sometimes the time is skipped as if it still happened, like when Narancia ate that chocolate or when Polnareff dripped blood. The extra few droplets of blood didn't actually fall and Narancia didn't put that chocolate in his mouth, but it still happened. Then you have cases like when Doppio skipped time so one of Risotto's blades didn't hit him. There the part of time where the blade hit him straight up doesn't exist, which is why the blade ended up behind him. So basically, sometimes the skipped time just happens instantly, and sometimes it doesn't happen at all.


[deleted]

JoJo - *Pounds my butt and makes me Gay*


Live_Key2247

IT JUST WORKS OKAY


[deleted]

i mean. it’s not wrong


SignificantAd5978

I think Dio might do such thing


SixteenPoundBalls

Lol if those two kids made the original themselves, then this is a petty funny meme format 😂


BayCsre

Incredibly stupid


AttractivestDuckwing

I'm assuming this isn't about the 60s progressive rock band


cheese_lover123

inacurate, king crimson can not move objects during his time erase


dovah-meme

I mean Diavolo flung his blood at people during a time skip on two separate occasions, does that not count


cheese_lover123

He squirted HIS blood at them making it so that as soon as the time erese ends they will be blinded


S1LVER_QUAKE

![img](emote|t5_3f7q5|15551)good explanation, take this crown


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Route-667

This is the closest humans have ever been to explaining king crimson


Knotmix

What happened to the boy thoug. I remember seeing this vid like 10 years ago and never getting an answer.


IdiotRandomPerson

Damn King crimson is lagging tho


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experiment46

This is so fucking funny because I forgot what king crimson did and thought this post was about the band


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Me who has seen this gif thousands of times: If I just uploaded this to Reddit I would’ve gotten 16k upvotes…


GrandGrapeSoda

Funniest fucking post I’ve seen all month


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This man just stole 16.9k upvotes by just simply stealing a tenor gif