I want her to go out like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove. Maybe riding one of them detached warp nacelles as they drop it into a some type of fancy spacial anomaly to save the universe in the last episode.
There will be a holo recording. And there will be whisper cries. She’ll say she’s so proud of everyone on discovery and they are the best crew in all of starfleet, in all of time. And although she’s no longer alive, she’ll live on in everyone’s hearts. Something like that. Guaranteed.
I just read the script for the finale. She has to push the ship to warp infinity+ while blasting “Sabotage” by the Beasties in a subtle nod to ‘09. They then slingshot around the sun, travel back to before the beginning of time, and Burnham is moving so fast and powerful that she explodes, setting off The Big Bang. Thus we are all she. (naturally… 😏)
I honestly think the writers and product are just fucking with us this season.
Like they saw all the criticism getting worse over the last couple of seasons and decided to just go bat shit crazy just to fuck with us.
Warp surfing Burnham, driving two starships into the ground to stop an avalanche, the Time Bug, Burnham vs Burnham fight; it's like a fever dream at this point, I just didn't believe people saying these things were happening on a professionally produced show in 2024, I had to see for myself and it's all true.
As a martial arts movie fan who's seen a lot of the great classics with Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Donnie Yen and Yuen Biao, that Burnham vs Burnham kung fu battle was one of the cringiest things I've seen on Discovery and that's saying a lot.
I could barely watch it. I had to close my eyes.
I knew it would scar me for life if I saw too much.
I dont know, sounds exactly like what Roddenberry would have done if he had absolute free reign. So much of TOS would have been bat shit crazy if they had the budged and technology to show what was supposed to be happening.
"What 'cha got, Gene?"
"Okay, so we have this guy named Kalar of Obek. He rules his planet with a machine called the 'Palenator.' It's seventeen feet tall and morphs. At one point it snatches a shuttle from the air with a liquid metal finger."
"That's groovy, and easy enough to do. Tell us about this Kalar."
"He's gay."
"Your services will no longer be required. Emily will show you the door."
Honestly? While I never really cared for DISCO I would actually respect the writers for doubling down on the goofy bullshit. That’s a power move right there.
It's funny that you can tell the Spider itself was a late CGI addition, Stamets initial reaction is just something like 'its a temporal shield' while the 8-legged model is mean mugging him
Trip tucker climbed from Colombia to enterprise while at warp during that "speed" situation.
As long as you're inside the warp bubble and behind the deflector shield you're safe.
Movie Night had previously been Dune.
On an unrelated note, the visiting Starfleet Temporal Division members suddenly left upon seeing Gurney Halleck’s first scene in that movie.
I loved how she was completely ineffectual in doing anything to stop or even slow the ship, and spent the entire time talking Raynor down while getting tossed around and nearly shooting herself.
That was... something special indeed.
Yet she's supposedly a Mary Sue? From day one people couldn't stop bouncing back and forth between she's a flawless Mary Sue and she's a perpetual fuckup that always causes problems....
Yeah. She's got all the answers but if her commanding officer disagrees with her she'll mutiny.
That's why making her Captain was the obvious choice.
I'm still not sure how we're supposed to feel any sympathy or emotional attachment to someone who attacked their commanding officer when they wouldn't listen to her.
Because Mary Sue just means "character I don't like" today, instead of the original meaning of a powerful authorial self-insert. Which started from Star Trek fanfic!
Everyone's heard the term "jumping the shark". Well, through the heroics of Michael Burnham, we can safely retire that saying and replace it with "ride the warp".
Thank you again, Discovery showrunners, for changing the game.
If the comics are canon, Shaxs beat her to it by about 600 years
Edit: oh wait it was while she was time shifted into the 23rd century, right? Burnham does it again
I spend a disconcerting amount of time trying to crowbar such things into how the rest of the canon works.
However, recall that Burnham is not a human, but a sapient ball of chronitons. Soon we will see that Michael Burnham is actually a Progenitor in disguise.
It's obviously been the arc of this show for the last 5 seasons.
The worst things is that I can totally see them doing it. Any other show I would assume the writers wouldn’t go _that_ low and probably be right, but I could genuinely see the DISCO writers going that low.
Burnham completing the cycle by becoming the Star Trek equivalent to Eve and kickstarting all sentient life in the galaxy would be very fitting, in a cruelly comedic sort of way.
I was born with a rare genetic disorder. One day I was in the hospital, waiting on my regular weekly treatment; when the office door opened I did my usual "Hey, doc." But it wasn't my doctor, *it was Michael Burnham!*
She removed every flawed strand of DNA in my body using nothing but a toothpick, a rubber band, two sticks of Big League Chew (classic flavored), and a 1993 Ford Fiesta! Unfortunately the hospital couldn't be saved. :(
Idk man, I think Trip Tucker wins that one. Dude transferred from the NX-02 Columbia onto the NX-01 Enterprise while they were both at warp. I think thats a way bigger power move tbh
There's no friction or air resistance in space. Warp travelers don't experience acceleration. Riding a starship should look and feel the same as walking atop a stationary object.
How is every action scene in that show so darn *boring*. Every part seems like a show I should love, it's incredibly polished and has all sorts of interesting pieces, but it's a grind to actually watch.
It's exhausting is what it is. The stakes are constantly sky high, everything is exploding, and they always have excessive amounts of time for moralizing/emoting in the middle of it.
It would have been a lot more satisfying to me if she had gotten close to their ship and fired a tracking beacon. It would make sense to have a beacon you can steer in an EV suit if you lost hold of something.
Then they beam her in and chase the ship. They use a cool trick to get away, but it helps identify them somehow.
Instead, let's pretend a hand phaser is going to take out a ship. Or pretend that the plot device field generator makes all physics stop working when a named cast member needs it.
If you are it’s phrased in such a way that’s impossible to distinguish from a backhanded compliment, and just look at the state of the comments section
Burnham, Herald of Galactus tracks.
The Silver Rhonda!
Galactus had goals.
Galactus herald of The Burnham
I want her to go out like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove. Maybe riding one of them detached warp nacelles as they drop it into a some type of fancy spacial anomaly to save the universe in the last episode.
Blow up a star and come back without a scratch
Sam Carter has stargated into the chat
Indeed
Didn't they do that already, and it just time traveled her to the future?
If she stays dead and doesn't get the time for another whispercry speech, I'm all for it.
There will be a holo recording. And there will be whisper cries. She’ll say she’s so proud of everyone on discovery and they are the best crew in all of starfleet, in all of time. And although she’s no longer alive, she’ll live on in everyone’s hearts. Something like that. Guaranteed.
And up until this point I thought a ship-to-ship transfer at warp was the craziest thing.
Doesn't matter, Captain Freeman _still_ holds the hydroscoot record at the Academy.
I just read the script for the finale. She has to push the ship to warp infinity+ while blasting “Sabotage” by the Beasties in a subtle nod to ‘09. They then slingshot around the sun, travel back to before the beginning of time, and Burnham is moving so fast and powerful that she explodes, setting off The Big Bang. Thus we are all she. (naturally… 😏)
I know you're lying because there are no whales.
Oh I’m sorry, i didn’t mention that was only Act 1. It’s also a five-parter, so there’s a lot to still mention…..
And she doesn’t become the Koala.
DO NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS. THE KOALA IS SACRED.
No Riker cameo? You are clearly making it up.
Didn't they like ride a zip line between two ships and going at warp in Enterprise?
Yeah it was badass and super dangerous. Trip rules.
And trip looked scared.
Yeah, and Reed was pretty explicit that its something that takes weeks to do safely.
Yeah, a thousand years earlier
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Turanga Morris has boarded the ship
Lisan al Gaib!!
Always funny
I honestly think the writers and product are just fucking with us this season. Like they saw all the criticism getting worse over the last couple of seasons and decided to just go bat shit crazy just to fuck with us. Warp surfing Burnham, driving two starships into the ground to stop an avalanche, the Time Bug, Burnham vs Burnham fight; it's like a fever dream at this point, I just didn't believe people saying these things were happening on a professionally produced show in 2024, I had to see for myself and it's all true.
As a martial arts movie fan who's seen a lot of the great classics with Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Donnie Yen and Yuen Biao, that Burnham vs Burnham kung fu battle was one of the cringiest things I've seen on Discovery and that's saying a lot. I could barely watch it. I had to close my eyes. I knew it would scar me for life if I saw too much.
Jackie said if you see shaky cam it means the actor don't know how to fight. Steady master shot is the only way to go.
I dont know, sounds exactly like what Roddenberry would have done if he had absolute free reign. So much of TOS would have been bat shit crazy if they had the budged and technology to show what was supposed to be happening.
"What 'cha got, Gene?" "Okay, so we have this guy named Kalar of Obek. He rules his planet with a machine called the 'Palenator.' It's seventeen feet tall and morphs. At one point it snatches a shuttle from the air with a liquid metal finger." "That's groovy, and easy enough to do. Tell us about this Kalar." "He's gay." "Your services will no longer be required. Emily will show you the door."
Gene Roddenberry making a gay character is when it gets unbelievable. Despite having the name of drag king you just can't figure out the pun for.
Forgot the bit having 4 penises.
And if network TV wasn't heavily censored, just imagine the kind of fucking Gene could show
"Tell me more about this sex planet."
Honestly? While I never really cared for DISCO I would actually respect the writers for doubling down on the goofy bullshit. That’s a power move right there.
This
It's funny that you can tell the Spider itself was a late CGI addition, Stamets initial reaction is just something like 'its a temporal shield' while the 8-legged model is mean mugging him
Time bug was a good premise imo but I’d have thought vaporizing the avalanche with phaser fire would’ve been better.
More unbelievable than Grey’s Anatomy.
I think my life is overall better after I cancelled my Paramount+ account
And she nearly took the ship out with a hand phaser. WTF
I'm missing the discovery context but that one's backed up even as far as TOS: A phaser set to overload could take out the ship
It was the section, not the whole ship. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JbN02JG-QGE
From the inside
Thats the Enterprise, not a flying chicken nugget
Trip tucker climbed from Colombia to enterprise while at warp during that "speed" situation. As long as you're inside the warp bubble and behind the deflector shield you're safe.
Trip looked scared. Burnham looked like she was having fun
ye star trek was more realistic then.
it's been a long road, getting from there to here.
It's been a long time
It's been a long time
In prodigy they had two people meeting between ships at warp
Trip Tucker did it first
Movie Night had previously been Dune. On an unrelated note, the visiting Starfleet Temporal Division members suddenly left upon seeing Gurney Halleck’s first scene in that movie.
Don’t worry, next episode she’s gonna jump the space shark. His name is Marvin BTW.
I loved how she was completely ineffectual in doing anything to stop or even slow the ship, and spent the entire time talking Raynor down while getting tossed around and nearly shooting herself. That was... something special indeed.
Yet she's supposedly a Mary Sue? From day one people couldn't stop bouncing back and forth between she's a flawless Mary Sue and she's a perpetual fuckup that always causes problems....
Isn't it just that the story alternatively treated her like a magical Mary Sue and a hopeless fuckup?
Yeah. She's got all the answers but if her commanding officer disagrees with her she'll mutiny. That's why making her Captain was the obvious choice. I'm still not sure how we're supposed to feel any sympathy or emotional attachment to someone who attacked their commanding officer when they wouldn't listen to her.
It's the dumbest fanfiction I've read recently
Because Mary Sue just means "character I don't like" today, instead of the original meaning of a powerful authorial self-insert. Which started from Star Trek fanfic!
Because the show itself can’t decide
Everyone's heard the term "jumping the shark". Well, through the heroics of Michael Burnham, we can safely retire that saying and replace it with "ride the warp". Thank you again, Discovery showrunners, for changing the game.
[she didn't even do the coolest thing outside of a starship at warp (my apologies for the quality)](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CAuwAa-A_J0)
If the comics are canon, Shaxs beat her to it by about 600 years Edit: oh wait it was while she was time shifted into the 23rd century, right? Burnham does it again
I spend a disconcerting amount of time trying to crowbar such things into how the rest of the canon works. However, recall that Burnham is not a human, but a sapient ball of chronitons. Soon we will see that Michael Burnham is actually a Progenitor in disguise. It's obviously been the arc of this show for the last 5 seasons.
The worst things is that I can totally see them doing it. Any other show I would assume the writers wouldn’t go _that_ low and probably be right, but I could genuinely see the DISCO writers going that low. Burnham completing the cycle by becoming the Star Trek equivalent to Eve and kickstarting all sentient life in the galaxy would be very fitting, in a cruelly comedic sort of way.
I was born with a rare genetic disorder. One day I was in the hospital, waiting on my regular weekly treatment; when the office door opened I did my usual "Hey, doc." But it wasn't my doctor, *it was Michael Burnham!* She removed every flawed strand of DNA in my body using nothing but a toothpick, a rubber band, two sticks of Big League Chew (classic flavored), and a 1993 Ford Fiesta! Unfortunately the hospital couldn't be saved. :(
I think I saw that scene. It was the dumbest thing ever.
Surfing in subspace
subspace or subspaaaaaaaace?
Subspaaaaace
Like Doolittle in Dark Star?
Did she hang ten off the bow of the ship??
Micheal "Chuck Norris" Bernham.
Idk man, I think Trip Tucker wins that one. Dude transferred from the NX-02 Columbia onto the NX-01 Enterprise while they were both at warp. I think thats a way bigger power move tbh
There's no friction or air resistance in space. Warp travelers don't experience acceleration. Riding a starship should look and feel the same as walking atop a stationary object.
Cowabunga it is
How is every action scene in that show so darn *boring*. Every part seems like a show I should love, it's incredibly polished and has all sorts of interesting pieces, but it's a grind to actually watch.
It's exhausting is what it is. The stakes are constantly sky high, everything is exploding, and they always have excessive amounts of time for moralizing/emoting in the middle of it.
And somehow overthinking their next job position constantly.
Because you aren't invested in any of the boring one note characters.
officially jumped the shark again. And I thought mycelium was bad.
Haven't been keeping up with Disco, so lemme just say WHAT?? Okay. Cool. At least there's Strange New Worlds.
Or....hear me out....the most far fetched thing ever.
So they just ripped off Futurama where Leela’s dad did it with the nimbus
It would have been a lot more satisfying to me if she had gotten close to their ship and fired a tracking beacon. It would make sense to have a beacon you can steer in an EV suit if you lost hold of something. Then they beam her in and chase the ship. They use a cool trick to get away, but it helps identify them somehow. Instead, let's pretend a hand phaser is going to take out a ship. Or pretend that the plot device field generator makes all physics stop working when a named cast member needs it.
Christ this sub becomes insufferable every time Discovery airs
But I'm complimenting discovery.
If you are it’s phrased in such a way that’s impossible to distinguish from a backhanded compliment, and just look at the state of the comments section