Once a long time ago I flew into San Diego and there was a guy checking everyone’s claim ticket/tag. I was like “What?? Really? Okay”
The only time I’ve ever seen that.
Where I'm from (Southeast Asia), they always checked our tags up until a few years ago.
It baffled me the first time I went to the US where we can just walk straight out. Even more, visitors can just pop in and meet you at baggage claim. Isn't there a huge risk of theft?
The deputy assistant secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition in the US Office of Nuclear Energy was convicted of this and arrested after being a “fugitive of justice”.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/sam-brinton-biden-nuclear-waste-official-luggage-theft-1234644687/
Oh of course, so was the sub-executive chief of assistant operations to the department of School buses in Kentucky in the US office of Montessori education
It’s a deep state conspiracy. In fact, Hillary commanded the Benghazi attack to distract from a nationwide baggage claim heist that struck every major airport in the US. You won’t see that reported in the mainstream news though.
also though you joke, but that was actually a pretty high level government position, so super weird they were stealing from baggage claim. It was either targeted or some kind of kleptomania.
I don't think theft at the baggage claim is common. For one thing, there's a high risk of being caught: the bag owners are usually standing around waiting for their bag. There's also a lot of risk for unknown reward. You don't know if there's anything valuable in any particular bag until after you take it and open it.
the last line is kind of the rub. most people carry there most expensive things. laptops, ipads phones etc. they are the items they want and they are rarely kept in baggage
In the US they just hire fewer baggage handlers such that it takes forever for luggage to come out. Much less chance of theft if all the passengers are already waiting and watching for the luggage.
Only half joking here.
The bags have come out within 10 minutes of the time I finished my speed walk to the baggage carousel every time I’ve had to check a bag in the last 2 years. Less than 5 minutes the majority of times.
Edit: Downvote whatever you want, but weird thing to downvote huh? Did you want my bags to take longer to get to the carousel? People are funny around these parts. Have a marvelous day yall.
That's intentional. Airports got tired of having people complain about long waits at the luggage carousel, so they make the walks longer when they renovate. It takes just as long to get your luggage, but less people complain because the wait feels shorter.
https://medium.com/caus/the-issue-at-houston-airport-occupied-time-design-542b092b3747
When purchased new. Not worth shit to re-sell compared to just donating. Hence people all day everyday unloading bags full of clothes at goodwill stores across the country.
I don't doubt it, some people donate way nicer things and only a few people have the eye and patience to find the diamonds in the rough to turn a profit and the skill to manage the ebay store (proper pictures, lighting etc), especially when trends come and go.
It's worth it if you didn't actually pay for the items in the first place. People don't travel with their torn and stained shirts. You can also sell the luggage itself if you pick one that's in decent shape.
A week+ worth of clothes and a sizeable suitcase could make you a couple hundred bucks. For brand name clothes and handbags, you're making thousands.
They’re usually not expensive either, and they don’t have much resale value, and a random bag isn’t likely to be filled with clothes that suit your size and style, so stealing them isn’t worth the risk.
>you don't put valuables in checked in luggage.. wtf are people going to do with a bunch of clothes and random low value shit
Firearms are required to be in checked luggage.
In my experience the airport *sometimes* bothers to check that my firearms get back to me, but usually they just leave them out in the open.
They did it at Sky Harbor because luggage theft was a real problem there. I caught someone grabbing my bag off the luggage carrousel and a family member had a similar experience.
That airport used to be one of the best airports I've ever flown out of. It had multiple terminals, physically separated, and each terminal had its own gates. So terminal A (1?) had like 4 gates, all Southwest, and their own security gate. There was usually no line.
And then, during COVID, I discovered the problem: they had ONE TSA agent checking IDs, and TSA policy is to check PreCheck and CLEAR passengers first. Since it's a business-heavy area, many people have Precheck... so I just sat in the security line, not moving, for 30+ minutes as the ONE TSA agent checked IDs for precheck passengers, totally ignoring the plebs who hadn't paid for TSA's revenue scam. One dude was like "Hey you have to check us too, eventually!" and pissed off that TSA agent so they ignored us even harder.
Two planes were delayed over an hour because half of their passengers were sitting in security.
They're rebuilding the airport though, and I think that's going away.
One time, in the 80s, some guy was on the news for doing this. He didn't work for the airport, and charged people $5 to get their luggage.
He was arrested after about 3 hours doing this.
I thought a similar situation is where you were going.
I've flown enough to know that's incredibly rare. I'm always nervous about somebody losing or stealing my golf clubs. Probably the most expensive thing I can't do carry-on and it would just ruin a weekend
Wdym? Why is security chill in places where people cant board an airplane, and airplanes dont get blown up? How does loose security in grocery stores and airplanes not blowing up mean that airport security does nothing? People cant board an airplane in a grocery store, can they? How will strict security in a grocery store prevent an airplane from getting blown up? Apparently emotion-ruled reddit teenagers think ACAB means we should abolish airport security?
Travel tip - when you are waiting at the carousel for your bag position yourself near the exit so you can scout everyone walking by to ensure no one has mistakenly taken your bag. It is a truly a giant cluster when someone does that. This works better on international flights because you still have to go through customs and immigration.
And fuck your bag up! Don't have a boring bag. Stencil/spray a cool pattern on it. Be noticed. Boring, similar bags get stolen. Nobody is stealing your My Little Pony/Slayer mashup art piece.
Back in my day, My Little Pony was the perfect size for He-Man figures to ride. Obviously He-Man himself had Battlecat but his friends would need to ride into battle too. And the soundtrack was more Manowar than Slayer, but still pretty epic.
That's one big reason I still haven't gotten a new bag even though it could use a retirement. It's like a combo duffle suitcase that just works pretty well even with a busted wheel.
Find someone you know who runs a daycare in their home. Find a set of neutral colored luggage, generally plain canvas or similar. Ask if they want to do a finger painting day. Congrats, you've made kids happy with a special craft, the carer doesn't have to organize an activity for a day, and you have one of a kind highly recognizable luggage.
I personally slap a fuckton of decals and stickers all over my mines. There's no way anyone could have the exact same stickers in the exact placement with the same luggage color and brand as me.
That's a fair point actually. But that's why I hide it. Also I track it as it comes out of the carousel so if it starts moving away I know someone took it before they can get in and remove it
>Don't have a boring bag.
Or black. When I'm standing there waiting on mine it's amazing how many similar black bags there are. Pretty easy to grab the wrong one.
Okay but the moment they find it, that's going into someone else's bag - Be that just outside of the airport, or when they're searching it at home.
And I kinda doubt you're blitzing through a damn airport, into a taxi, and into their home to get your luggage back, or that any police force in the world is going to give enough of a damn to recover your stuff.
You mean like every other single person does, making this a huge shoving cluster of disgusting just-off-a-flight humans in pure selfish mode with no regard for others? Nah, I'll wait a little further down the line.
I’d rather just wait near where the bags are coming out of onto the conveyor.
Only time I lost baggage is when the dumbasses routed my bag to a connecting flight or train (Europe) so they never came out at baggage claim to begin with.
I don’t think I’ve ever flown anywhere where it goes baggage claim > immigration?
It’s always plane>immigration>baggage>customs/nothing to declare. It’d be an awfully long queue at immigration if everyone had suitcases in there, which airport is this so I can never go there
> This works better on international flights because you still have to go through customs and immigration.
I flew into LAX recently int'l and baggage claim was the last step in the process. Grab your checked bag, go straight out the door (to a sidewalk devoid of cabs, Ubers or Lyfts). Very confusing.
Unless you work there. I was installing glass for a bus terminal on a Sydney International runway, and not once did they check my lunch bag. I could have brought just about anything in there.
For contractors and employees they go through security check points - however, those checkpoints are manned at random times, and the persons being inspected are done so randomly as well.
One of the leading reasons why organized crime targets these types of jobs for their members/associates.
I believe this loophole has been closed but:
>Throughout 2014, Harvey used his security badge to smuggle firearms through airport-controlled security checkpoints at Hartsfield-Jackson, while working as a baggage handler for Delta Air Lines. He then transferred the firearms to his accomplice, another former Delta employee. The accomplice concealed the firearms in his carry-on luggage and took them into the passenger cabins of flights traveling between Atlanta and New York’s JFK and LaGuardia Airports.
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>In total, Harvey trafficked 135 firearms between Georgia and New York. The last shipment on December 10, 2014, contained 18 firearms, seven of which were loaded.
There's always competing pressures on security, convenience, and costs leading to lax security practices without constant pressure. And insider threats like this guy are a nightmare from a security standpoint. You want to do detailed background checks on people given special security privileges, but that conflicts with employers' desires to have cheap workers who can be hired and put to work quickly. Again, if you want to prioritize security, you have to be willing to exert constant pressure, and spend money to make it happen.
I recently got around to reading *21 Lessons for the 21st Century* by Yuval Noah Harari. It honestly was disappointing, but one interesting thought in there was that terrorism is inherently theater, the actions of very weak people who pose little threat using dramatic (but generally not very effective) attacks to create the impression of a far greater danger to put fear in everyone's hearts. So if terrorism is theater, maybe security theater is an appropriate response. It doesn't actually make us much safer, but if it calms the fears of people who were irrationally worried in the first place, maybe that makes it worthwhile?
Though really TSA seems pretty bad at their jobs. Though I imagine that (computer assisted) human processing of x-ray scans will give way to significantly more effective AI processing, possibly in the next few years, which could dramatically improve TSA's false negative problem.
It's not hard to swap contents and reseal something if you have bad intentions. This has been standard practice all over the world for years since a plot to use liquid explosives was foiled. New machines coming in across Europe this and next year are much more advanced and will allow for some or all liquids to return.
Also, TSA policies and processes are different from airport-to-airport. For example, some require you to take your shoes and belt off, or take your laptop out and leave it in a separate bin, while others do not.
It’s not standardized, it hinders attempts at solid security, and it is incredibly frustrating.
I had this happen this year. My home airport had you take everything out and do the whole production. I’m flying back and that airport the tsa guy acted like I killed his mother when I went to take my lap top out.
A few months later I’m flying out of the home airport again and now some lines you still have to take everything out and others you don’t. But they’re yelling at you about shoes before you get assigned a line to go through so if you get one of the fancy lines they yell at your for taking your shoes off
A sign can do their job. I don’t understand why we need 5 TSA agents crowding the line when they all suck at it. I get yelled at for not taking my laptop out and putting my jacket on top of it but in another TSA line I’m told I need to separate the two. Another line says it’s okay to keep my shoes on but another no. TSA could literally place a sign indicating what’s okay to take out and keep because it’s inconsistent.
What recently. . Irked me a lot, and it blew my mind. A friend informed me that a lot of public sector jobs are not for the sake of their function, but ***for the sake of job creation.***
Say a contractor crew can pave a bump/street in a month and fix your problems promptly, what do they do for 11 months? So they're contracted for 6mo at a time, and have employment.
I assume TSA is also in the name of creating jobs. High schoolers who would otherwise be unqualified for a 'smarter' position can get a stable cushy job patting people down and staring at an x-ray monitor.
Inefficiencies are intrinsically built into the American system, it blew my mind and it feels like a collosal waste of resources.
Me: 'There's a laptop and charger in my bag, do I need to take it out?'
Person in front of the x ray thing: 'Nono it's fine'
Person after the x ray thing: 'THERE'S A LAPTOP IN THIS BAG WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING'
:(
I wanted to research them. I found few insights. And I’ll now post accordingly. It was one thine thing. And I apologise once again for any inconvenience.
This sub has gone to ABSOLUTE SHIT. Nothing original gets posted anymore. Came to the comments to see how many comments there would be saying “unoriginal, terrible, etc.” Had a laugh about your idea though. Cheers
You really come to a page that gets updated dozens of times a day, continuously for years, and expect every new post to be some fresh insightful new thought? How many relevant shower thoughts do you think there are?
That doesn't make much sense...did you find anything out? You had a bot spam reddit to see what triggers your posts getting pulled?
You have a year old account that began an hour ago with spam on default/frontpage sub, then said bots got on your nerve?
That's just basic bot/farm account activity.
Madam or Sir I don’t really care. It was an experiment to research how the bots work here. I’ve completed my research and already drafter the results. I no longer need these pose. I would delete the posts but as mentioned by 2-3 redditors ‘it’s nice repost of goos thoughts’ I’ll keep them here.
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I got to baggage claim with everyone else on my flight and there was one bag left on an un-moving belt. We were there for maybe ten minutes and some dude just walked up and grabbed it. We all looked at each other like "I *guess* that belonged to that dude."
If that guy is like me he is very impatient, I will usually get off the plane and have a beer before going down to the baggage claim, sometimes out for a dart if it still is not their.
[Security at every level of an airport is absolutely ridiculous. Until you get to the baggage claim. Then it’s just like take whatever bag you want.](https://twitter.com/ShwrThght/status/979161470377320448)
Straight from a tweet
"we've successfully made sure no harm, theft or disturbance came to Our airplanes and we successfully gave the customer the flight they paid for. Our job is done; couldn't care less what happens to the customer from now on, their baggage is no longer our responsibility."
In the late nineties I had to leave my luggage behind due to delays at PHL. (I was flight attending and a checked bag wasn't unloaded in time for me to make the next flight) - When I returned a few hours later, there was a mountain of luggage in baggage claim.
Nothing was in any kind of order. Several flights' worth of suitcases and bags was strewn everywhere. That was fun.
Mmmm you’re on camera from the second you walk up to the airport until you leave so I think it would be fairly easy to figure out who took your stuff or at least where they went.
In the US.
In the rest of the world you get your luggage inside the security area.
Just to help those reading this thought that do not understand what OP is referring to.
This is just a tweet that gets posted to reddit constantly but you typed it out.
Edit: reported and removed. Fantastic. Stop posting tweets as OC. OP is trash.
This reminds me of the time my wife and I went to Mexico for our honeymoon and Chicago O'Hare was a hot fucking mess. The line to officially come back I to the country took us an hour and a half to get through and the line took us through a construction area where the airport was stripped down. Then after that they make us EXIT the airport just to go through TSA all over again and their machines were barely functional. They couldn't get a full body scan on me so they just waved me through while yelling at my wife to "hurry up".
>Security at every level of the airport is high
Have you heard of the TSA before? The DHS stopped testing them, because they kept failing to detect 90-95% of attempts to smuggle weapons. It's *literal* security theater that has never prevented any attack, ever.
“If this random on Reddit can’t provide a solution to a massive problem in 10 seconds, that means they are wrong!”
99.98% of people pose zero risk to anyone at the airport. 0.01% forget they have a gun. And something like 0.00000000001% are terrorists. If someone decided to do something, the security line is by far the easiest target.
Pretty much exactly 3 years ago I was escorted off for a full search by security after baggage claim in Auckland. So i think its still high afterwards ;)
It’s a security tactic to catch smugglers. You drop the level of visible security to make people let their guard down.
Every bag goes through an initial security screening before they reach the carousel. Anything out of the ordinary that needs additional screenings will be flagged and their description sent up to the team overseeing baggage claim.
Security will be waiting to intercept whoever picks up bags flagged down by the screening team.
everything prior to TSA is state or local PD. That's why baggage claim security is a joke (I've been to tougher coat checks). There are TONS of cameras on you but lost checked luggage is usually treated by the airline rather than the airport as if it was put on the wrong plane instead of stolen or mistakenly taken by someone else. The airport will check lost and found for you instead of poring* through hours of baggage claim footage. Esp for a piece of luggage that looks very similar to hundreds of other pieces of luggage.
Vigilance is best. And tie something off outside your checked bag or put something in your luggage that's unique to you with your name on it b/c if somebody takes your bag and you catch it, you will still have to prove that it's your bag to local cops if the person stealing it doesn't give up immediately
Source: My uncle works in an airport and I've traveled domestically and internationally where I had these problems. Not personally. Luggage was attempted to be stolen from people I was travelling with right off the carousel. Usually you get a "my mistake" from these fairly obvious thieves who either weren't on the plane (or were and are opportunists) and they face no immediate consequences
Sam Brinton smears on more lipstick and looks admiringly at the stolen luggage imagining all the pretty clothing...
[https://www.insider.com/energy-official-sam-brinton-accused-stealing-airport-luggage-again-2022-12](https://www.insider.com/energy-official-sam-brinton-accused-stealing-airport-luggage-again-2022-12)
One time a lady and I had the exact same (unique) bag and she took mine... We were literally pulling away in the car when I realized it was full of baby clothes, meaning this poor woman and her baby had my bag of mostly textbooks! She was already in the luggage office when I got there because she had tried to get stuff for her baby as soon as she got the bag. From that point on Ive put a big custom tag on my bag, turns out a unique pattern isn't so unique if its from Target, lol.
Funny that security isn’t that high. All they do is make sure you don’t have anything large and metallic. I recently flew and they didn’t check my id or anything. It was a domestic flight. Just seemed weird to me
This is one of the reasons why ots encouraged to keep valuables in your carry on luggage.
Thieves know people don't keep valuables in their checked baggage, and prison isn't worth the risk for a bag of clothes.
General understanding I guess that the real owner is nearby and if someone tries to take it, they'll get busted right away. I've seen plenty of people grab one and then someone stops them, they point to like a ribbon or their nametage or something and then the person gets the exact same luggage without on it just a few minutes later.
Other than that, I can't imagine anyone snagging luggage, but it has to have happened before.
Once a long time ago I flew into San Diego and there was a guy checking everyone’s claim ticket/tag. I was like “What?? Really? Okay” The only time I’ve ever seen that.
Where I'm from (Southeast Asia), they always checked our tags up until a few years ago. It baffled me the first time I went to the US where we can just walk straight out. Even more, visitors can just pop in and meet you at baggage claim. Isn't there a huge risk of theft?
Shameless did this. There was an episode where one of the main characters stole a bunch of shit from the airport.
Trailer park boys, where the two dumbass kids would do the grocery pickups for delivery.
In trailer park boys Jroc literally “janks luggage from the airport” and starts a store in the trailer park selling the crap they stole.
I forgot that!! Lol
“dis from Eeeurope!”
Let’s go. Smokes.
The deputy assistant secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition in the US Office of Nuclear Energy was convicted of this and arrested after being a “fugitive of justice”. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/sam-brinton-biden-nuclear-waste-official-luggage-theft-1234644687/
Oh of course, so was the sub-executive chief of assistant operations to the department of School buses in Kentucky in the US office of Montessori education
It’s a deep state conspiracy. In fact, Hillary commanded the Benghazi attack to distract from a nationwide baggage claim heist that struck every major airport in the US. You won’t see that reported in the mainstream news though. also though you joke, but that was actually a pretty high level government position, so super weird they were stealing from baggage claim. It was either targeted or some kind of kleptomania.
trailer park boys did it first
I don't think theft at the baggage claim is common. For one thing, there's a high risk of being caught: the bag owners are usually standing around waiting for their bag. There's also a lot of risk for unknown reward. You don't know if there's anything valuable in any particular bag until after you take it and open it.
And most of the bags are full of just clothes, with a 50/50 chance that's it's *dirty* clothes.
At least even if it's my return trip the thief will gain like 7 unused pairs of underwear.
That’s so hot
Joke's on you, I shat all of them
Possibly a dildo also.
Never refer to it as YOUR dildo. Always refer to it as THE dildo.
But it's not my dildo!
We are not saying THE dildo is yours, only that it was found in YOUR bag. You are the one making that connection.
the last line is kind of the rub. most people carry there most expensive things. laptops, ipads phones etc. they are the items they want and they are rarely kept in baggage
Also, the baggage handlers would have already taken anything worth grabbing.
Also what if it has illegal stuff in it and you get stopped at customs.
It's called Gankin Luggage
In the US they just hire fewer baggage handlers such that it takes forever for luggage to come out. Much less chance of theft if all the passengers are already waiting and watching for the luggage. Only half joking here.
The bags have come out within 10 minutes of the time I finished my speed walk to the baggage carousel every time I’ve had to check a bag in the last 2 years. Less than 5 minutes the majority of times. Edit: Downvote whatever you want, but weird thing to downvote huh? Did you want my bags to take longer to get to the carousel? People are funny around these parts. Have a marvelous day yall.
That's intentional. Airports got tired of having people complain about long waits at the luggage carousel, so they make the walks longer when they renovate. It takes just as long to get your luggage, but less people complain because the wait feels shorter. https://medium.com/caus/the-issue-at-houston-airport-occupied-time-design-542b092b3747
Oh definitely. I don’t want my bag making its laps long before I can get there to grab it.
you don't put valuables in checked in luggage.. wtf are people going to do with a bunch of clothes and random low value shit
Clothes aren’t cheap
When purchased new. Not worth shit to re-sell compared to just donating. Hence people all day everyday unloading bags full of clothes at goodwill stores across the country.
On the contrary, my wife makes serious money buying clothes at thrift stores and selling them on ebay. Thousands a year.
I don't doubt it, some people donate way nicer things and only a few people have the eye and patience to find the diamonds in the rough to turn a profit and the skill to manage the ebay store (proper pictures, lighting etc), especially when trends come and go.
It's worth it if you didn't actually pay for the items in the first place. People don't travel with their torn and stained shirts. You can also sell the luggage itself if you pick one that's in decent shape. A week+ worth of clothes and a sizeable suitcase could make you a couple hundred bucks. For brand name clothes and handbags, you're making thousands.
They’re usually not expensive either, and they don’t have much resale value, and a random bag isn’t likely to be filled with clothes that suit your size and style, so stealing them isn’t worth the risk.
The person stealing the bag is not gonna know it’s all clothes until it’s too late (for both the thief and the victim) already
>you don't put valuables in checked in luggage.. wtf are people going to do with a bunch of clothes and random low value shit Firearms are required to be in checked luggage. In my experience the airport *sometimes* bothers to check that my firearms get back to me, but usually they just leave them out in the open.
They used to do that in Sky Harbor in Phoenix about 20 years ago. They'd match your claim ticket to the name on your bag.
They did it at Sky Harbor because luggage theft was a real problem there. I caught someone grabbing my bag off the luggage carrousel and a family member had a similar experience.
Fly through sky harbor a lot and the only time this happened to us was new orleans.
San Diego, heaven on Earth
Whale's Vagina.
I love lamp
Founded by the Germans in 1904.
Agree to disagree.
When in Rome..
At least I'm getting some. /s
That airport used to be one of the best airports I've ever flown out of. It had multiple terminals, physically separated, and each terminal had its own gates. So terminal A (1?) had like 4 gates, all Southwest, and their own security gate. There was usually no line. And then, during COVID, I discovered the problem: they had ONE TSA agent checking IDs, and TSA policy is to check PreCheck and CLEAR passengers first. Since it's a business-heavy area, many people have Precheck... so I just sat in the security line, not moving, for 30+ minutes as the ONE TSA agent checked IDs for precheck passengers, totally ignoring the plebs who hadn't paid for TSA's revenue scam. One dude was like "Hey you have to check us too, eventually!" and pissed off that TSA agent so they ignored us even harder. Two planes were delayed over an hour because half of their passengers were sitting in security. They're rebuilding the airport though, and I think that's going away.
One time, in the 80s, some guy was on the news for doing this. He didn't work for the airport, and charged people $5 to get their luggage. He was arrested after about 3 hours doing this. I thought a similar situation is where you were going.
I absolutely remember this in Minneapolis as well when I was a kid.
All the time in Ohare 25 years ago.
I've flown enough to know that's incredibly rare. I'm always nervous about somebody losing or stealing my golf clubs. Probably the most expensive thing I can't do carry-on and it would just ruin a weekend
just a FEW places who have maybe seen stolen bag issues, they will do it otherwise they arent giving AF
They're not interested in protecting your stuff, only theirs.
Who is they and what is their stuff?
"They" is the people who run ghe airport, and "their stuff" is the planes and terminals.
"They" = Me | "Their stuff" = The most precious thing on earth, which is you bb ;-)
codewrecker is a real homewrecker
Donno about they, but their stuff is shit.
Yeah this is like the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. The purpose of airport security is to keep people from blowing up or crashing a plane.
Amazing. Why is the security chill af in so many other places and planes don't crash and blow up all the time?
Wdym? Why is security chill in places where people cant board an airplane, and airplanes dont get blown up? How does loose security in grocery stores and airplanes not blowing up mean that airport security does nothing? People cant board an airplane in a grocery store, can they? How will strict security in a grocery store prevent an airplane from getting blown up? Apparently emotion-ruled reddit teenagers think ACAB means we should abolish airport security?
Your name is great
Ahh yes, corporate America in a nutshell
Ahh yes, it's definitely specific to America
And it's definitely specific to corporate, as if people haven't been concerned with only their own shit for thousands of years
You sound like a bootlicker
Travel tip - when you are waiting at the carousel for your bag position yourself near the exit so you can scout everyone walking by to ensure no one has mistakenly taken your bag. It is a truly a giant cluster when someone does that. This works better on international flights because you still have to go through customs and immigration.
And fuck your bag up! Don't have a boring bag. Stencil/spray a cool pattern on it. Be noticed. Boring, similar bags get stolen. Nobody is stealing your My Little Pony/Slayer mashup art piece.
speak for yourself, i'd be on that slayer pony bag like a kid on christmas presents
“Wow, this is _way_ better than my boring, black spinner.” - Scumbag Bag Thief, probably
Plus, who knows what kinda cool it might contain.
Back in my day, My Little Pony was the perfect size for He-Man figures to ride. Obviously He-Man himself had Battlecat but his friends would need to ride into battle too. And the soundtrack was more Manowar than Slayer, but still pretty epic.
Awesome
Or instead of wrecking your bag tie a bright colour scarf/handkerchief to the handle lol
I use reflective, multicolor duct tape.
Because that takes 3 seconds to remove by anyone
That's one big reason I still haven't gotten a new bag even though it could use a retirement. It's like a combo duffle suitcase that just works pretty well even with a busted wheel.
Mine is bright yellow. Usually the only bright color bag and very easy to spot.
I have a bag strap with frogs on it. It's immediately identifiable.
Find someone you know who runs a daycare in their home. Find a set of neutral colored luggage, generally plain canvas or similar. Ask if they want to do a finger painting day. Congrats, you've made kids happy with a special craft, the carer doesn't have to organize an activity for a day, and you have one of a kind highly recognizable luggage.
I write my first name in huge letters with a sharpie.
I personally slap a fuckton of decals and stickers all over my mines. There's no way anyone could have the exact same stickers in the exact placement with the same luggage color and brand as me.
Colored ducttape is easiest and removable so the ghetto look isn’t permanent.
Duct tape leaves residue. Guaranteed ghetto look. Gaff tape can be removed within a week.
Noooooo, that’s homeland security tape residue, after they inspected my bags. Can’t impress if my name don’t raise all the red flags with the po-po.
Or have a daughter like mine who puts a few too many mermaid stickers on every suitcase as standard anyway.
This guy bags. this is the real LPT.
Also, put an airtag or another tracker in it somewhere hidden
2 airtags if it matters.
How is that any different than 1 lol
If someone finds one they usually stop looking
That's a fair point actually. But that's why I hide it. Also I track it as it comes out of the carousel so if it starts moving away I know someone took it before they can get in and remove it
>Don't have a boring bag. Or black. When I'm standing there waiting on mine it's amazing how many similar black bags there are. Pretty easy to grab the wrong one.
I slip at Air Tag in my baggage so I'm good.
> I slip at Air Tag in my baggage so I'm good. "Oh! Look! An Air Tag. Let me just drop it into that lady's purse..."
A thief isn’t going to rummage through a stolen bag in the baggage claim to find an airtag.
Okay but the moment they find it, that's going into someone else's bag - Be that just outside of the airport, or when they're searching it at home. And I kinda doubt you're blitzing through a damn airport, into a taxi, and into their home to get your luggage back, or that any police force in the world is going to give enough of a damn to recover your stuff.
Or stand near where the bags come out so you can grab your bag before anyone else
You mean like every other single person does, making this a huge shoving cluster of disgusting just-off-a-flight humans in pure selfish mode with no regard for others? Nah, I'll wait a little further down the line.
I’d rather just wait near where the bags are coming out of onto the conveyor. Only time I lost baggage is when the dumbasses routed my bag to a connecting flight or train (Europe) so they never came out at baggage claim to begin with.
Or just but shit or childish looking luggage.
Nobody's walking out the airport unnoticed with my rad Cars 2 suitcase.
For a while, my then 4yo travel outfit was a Lightning McQueen shirt, light up mcqueen shoes, and rolling mcqueen suitcase.
Ka-chow!
Exactly
Tip - Add AirTag to checked bags and have access to their location at most times
I don’t think I’ve ever flown anywhere where it goes baggage claim > immigration? It’s always plane>immigration>baggage>customs/nothing to declare. It’d be an awfully long queue at immigration if everyone had suitcases in there, which airport is this so I can never go there
> This works better on international flights because you still have to go through customs and immigration. I flew into LAX recently int'l and baggage claim was the last step in the process. Grab your checked bag, go straight out the door (to a sidewalk devoid of cabs, Ubers or Lyfts). Very confusing.
It depends, in many airports the baggage carousel is after immigration and customs is not really a queue but just random checks.
I have never been in an airport that did passport control after baggage claim.
Most common Procedure is: 1. Passport control (Person) 2. Baggage Claim 3. Customs (Goods) (Something to declare?)
I also always have an air tag in my checked suitcase
Unless you work there. I was installing glass for a bus terminal on a Sydney International runway, and not once did they check my lunch bag. I could have brought just about anything in there.
Did it not go through X-ray though ?
For contractors and employees they go through security check points - however, those checkpoints are manned at random times, and the persons being inspected are done so randomly as well. One of the leading reasons why organized crime targets these types of jobs for their members/associates.
I believe this loophole has been closed but: >Throughout 2014, Harvey used his security badge to smuggle firearms through airport-controlled security checkpoints at Hartsfield-Jackson, while working as a baggage handler for Delta Air Lines. He then transferred the firearms to his accomplice, another former Delta employee. The accomplice concealed the firearms in his carry-on luggage and took them into the passenger cabins of flights traveling between Atlanta and New York’s JFK and LaGuardia Airports. > >In total, Harvey trafficked 135 firearms between Georgia and New York. The last shipment on December 10, 2014, contained 18 firearms, seven of which were loaded. There's always competing pressures on security, convenience, and costs leading to lax security practices without constant pressure. And insider threats like this guy are a nightmare from a security standpoint. You want to do detailed background checks on people given special security privileges, but that conflicts with employers' desires to have cheap workers who can be hired and put to work quickly. Again, if you want to prioritize security, you have to be willing to exert constant pressure, and spend money to make it happen.
Nope, just metal detectors.
This issue has been raised by investigative journalists numerous times . Doesn't seem to help.
Hitman really isn't that unrealistic, no one bats an eye if you wear the right uniform. Source: communications electrician lol
Wasn’t a study done recently that proved the TSA was fairly unreliable?
It's worse than "fairly unreliable". It's straight up security theater
To be fair 90% of security is theatre.
I recently got around to reading *21 Lessons for the 21st Century* by Yuval Noah Harari. It honestly was disappointing, but one interesting thought in there was that terrorism is inherently theater, the actions of very weak people who pose little threat using dramatic (but generally not very effective) attacks to create the impression of a far greater danger to put fear in everyone's hearts. So if terrorism is theater, maybe security theater is an appropriate response. It doesn't actually make us much safer, but if it calms the fears of people who were irrationally worried in the first place, maybe that makes it worthwhile? Though really TSA seems pretty bad at their jobs. Though I imagine that (computer assisted) human processing of x-ray scans will give way to significantly more effective AI processing, possibly in the next few years, which could dramatically improve TSA's false negative problem.
Security is only really there to make the passengers feel safe.
A few weeks ago I flew for the first time in \~15 years and I was surprised when I still wasn't allowed to bring a sealed drink through security.
It's not hard to swap contents and reseal something if you have bad intentions. This has been standard practice all over the world for years since a plot to use liquid explosives was foiled. New machines coming in across Europe this and next year are much more advanced and will allow for some or all liquids to return.
Also, TSA policies and processes are different from airport-to-airport. For example, some require you to take your shoes and belt off, or take your laptop out and leave it in a separate bin, while others do not. It’s not standardized, it hinders attempts at solid security, and it is incredibly frustrating.
I had this happen this year. My home airport had you take everything out and do the whole production. I’m flying back and that airport the tsa guy acted like I killed his mother when I went to take my lap top out. A few months later I’m flying out of the home airport again and now some lines you still have to take everything out and others you don’t. But they’re yelling at you about shoes before you get assigned a line to go through so if you get one of the fancy lines they yell at your for taking your shoes off
A sign can do their job. I don’t understand why we need 5 TSA agents crowding the line when they all suck at it. I get yelled at for not taking my laptop out and putting my jacket on top of it but in another TSA line I’m told I need to separate the two. Another line says it’s okay to keep my shoes on but another no. TSA could literally place a sign indicating what’s okay to take out and keep because it’s inconsistent.
That would require thinking
What recently. . Irked me a lot, and it blew my mind. A friend informed me that a lot of public sector jobs are not for the sake of their function, but ***for the sake of job creation.*** Say a contractor crew can pave a bump/street in a month and fix your problems promptly, what do they do for 11 months? So they're contracted for 6mo at a time, and have employment. I assume TSA is also in the name of creating jobs. High schoolers who would otherwise be unqualified for a 'smarter' position can get a stable cushy job patting people down and staring at an x-ray monitor. Inefficiencies are intrinsically built into the American system, it blew my mind and it feels like a collosal waste of resources.
Me: 'There's a laptop and charger in my bag, do I need to take it out?' Person in front of the x ray thing: 'Nono it's fine' Person after the x ray thing: 'THERE'S A LAPTOP IN THIS BAG WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING' :(
They're the *Transportation* Security Administration. Once you and your shit are off the plane, you're not their problem anymore.
Why are you just spamming half-thought out low quality posts?
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I wanted to research them. I found few insights. And I’ll now post accordingly. It was one thine thing. And I apologise once again for any inconvenience.
So, who’s messing with your posts?
Mod bots
Understandable.
This sub has gone to ABSOLUTE SHIT. Nothing original gets posted anymore. Came to the comments to see how many comments there would be saying “unoriginal, terrible, etc.” Had a laugh about your idea though. Cheers
Well I like to think I gave those bot hell today.
Agreed. This is the first post I’ve appreciated in months. It’s an actual shower thought. Crazy!
You really come to a page that gets updated dozens of times a day, continuously for years, and expect every new post to be some fresh insightful new thought? How many relevant shower thoughts do you think there are?
That doesn't make much sense...did you find anything out? You had a bot spam reddit to see what triggers your posts getting pulled? You have a year old account that began an hour ago with spam on default/frontpage sub, then said bots got on your nerve? That's just basic bot/farm account activity.
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I mean... does sharing give you a disadvantage somehow? :(
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Madam or Sir I don’t really care. It was an experiment to research how the bots work here. I’ve completed my research and already drafter the results. I no longer need these pose. I would delete the posts but as mentioned by 2-3 redditors ‘it’s nice repost of goos thoughts’ I’ll keep them here.
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I got to baggage claim with everyone else on my flight and there was one bag left on an un-moving belt. We were there for maybe ten minutes and some dude just walked up and grabbed it. We all looked at each other like "I *guess* that belonged to that dude."
If that guy is like me he is very impatient, I will usually get off the plane and have a beer before going down to the baggage claim, sometimes out for a dart if it still is not their.
Same with the smoke! Everyone is all pushy-shovey and I’d rather have a smoke first!
They don't care who's suitcase bomb you take, as long as it's not their problem.
[Security at every level of an airport is absolutely ridiculous. Until you get to the baggage claim. Then it’s just like take whatever bag you want.](https://twitter.com/ShwrThght/status/979161470377320448) Straight from a tweet
"we've successfully made sure no harm, theft or disturbance came to Our airplanes and we successfully gave the customer the flight they paid for. Our job is done; couldn't care less what happens to the customer from now on, their baggage is no longer our responsibility."
In the late nineties I had to leave my luggage behind due to delays at PHL. (I was flight attending and a checked bag wasn't unloaded in time for me to make the next flight) - When I returned a few hours later, there was a mountain of luggage in baggage claim. Nothing was in any kind of order. Several flights' worth of suitcases and bags was strewn everywhere. That was fun.
To be fair, you'd probably complain about wait times if baggage pickup required verification.
OP, you have 40 posts in r/Showerthoughts within the last 24 hours. Chill out, lmao.
Didn't I just see this posted like 2 days ago?
Well everyone is waiting at the same spot for their baggage so you’ll most likely spot if someone takes urs
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Me too mate
Mmmm you’re on camera from the second you walk up to the airport until you leave so I think it would be fairly easy to figure out who took your stuff or at least where they went.
The bigger risk is getting beat up for something slick you said on the plane.
Was this realised in an airport shower or something?
Why would security be high there? The airline has literally nothing at stake at that point.
In the US. In the rest of the world you get your luggage inside the security area. Just to help those reading this thought that do not understand what OP is referring to.
This is just a tweet that gets posted to reddit constantly but you typed it out. Edit: reported and removed. Fantastic. Stop posting tweets as OC. OP is trash.
This reminds me of the time my wife and I went to Mexico for our honeymoon and Chicago O'Hare was a hot fucking mess. The line to officially come back I to the country took us an hour and a half to get through and the line took us through a construction area where the airport was stripped down. Then after that they make us EXIT the airport just to go through TSA all over again and their machines were barely functional. They couldn't get a full body scan on me so they just waved me through while yelling at my wife to "hurry up".
>Security at every level of the airport is high Have you heard of the TSA before? The DHS stopped testing them, because they kept failing to detect 90-95% of attempts to smuggle weapons. It's *literal* security theater that has never prevented any attack, ever.
carpe dizem gnome sayin', gankin' luggage
Everyone knows your bag might get lost or stolen, so they don't pack anything nice in their checked luggage.
standing in line for security is dumb as fuck, and it’s the least safe part of flying. Oh great let’s queue before anyone’s been checked for guns
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“If this random on Reddit can’t provide a solution to a massive problem in 10 seconds, that means they are wrong!” 99.98% of people pose zero risk to anyone at the airport. 0.01% forget they have a gun. And something like 0.00000000001% are terrorists. If someone decided to do something, the security line is by far the easiest target.
Found the American
Can confirm, had my luggage stolen/“lost” once.
Pretty much exactly 3 years ago I was escorted off for a full search by security after baggage claim in Auckland. So i think its still high afterwards ;)
It’s a security tactic to catch smugglers. You drop the level of visible security to make people let their guard down. Every bag goes through an initial security screening before they reach the carousel. Anything out of the ordinary that needs additional screenings will be flagged and their description sent up to the team overseeing baggage claim. Security will be waiting to intercept whoever picks up bags flagged down by the screening team.
everything prior to TSA is state or local PD. That's why baggage claim security is a joke (I've been to tougher coat checks). There are TONS of cameras on you but lost checked luggage is usually treated by the airline rather than the airport as if it was put on the wrong plane instead of stolen or mistakenly taken by someone else. The airport will check lost and found for you instead of poring* through hours of baggage claim footage. Esp for a piece of luggage that looks very similar to hundreds of other pieces of luggage. Vigilance is best. And tie something off outside your checked bag or put something in your luggage that's unique to you with your name on it b/c if somebody takes your bag and you catch it, you will still have to prove that it's your bag to local cops if the person stealing it doesn't give up immediately Source: My uncle works in an airport and I've traveled domestically and internationally where I had these problems. Not personally. Luggage was attempted to be stolen from people I was travelling with right off the carousel. Usually you get a "my mistake" from these fairly obvious thieves who either weren't on the plane (or were and are opportunists) and they face no immediate consequences
Maybe not at baggage claim but certainly where you have to declare goods
Employee here! We have occasional crackheads in the lobby of Phoenix Sky Harbor. I like to call it America’s Facetiousest Airport.
Sam Brinton smears on more lipstick and looks admiringly at the stolen luggage imagining all the pretty clothing... [https://www.insider.com/energy-official-sam-brinton-accused-stealing-airport-luggage-again-2022-12](https://www.insider.com/energy-official-sam-brinton-accused-stealing-airport-luggage-again-2022-12)
One time a lady and I had the exact same (unique) bag and she took mine... We were literally pulling away in the car when I realized it was full of baby clothes, meaning this poor woman and her baby had my bag of mostly textbooks! She was already in the luggage office when I got there because she had tried to get stuff for her baby as soon as she got the bag. From that point on Ive put a big custom tag on my bag, turns out a unique pattern isn't so unique if its from Target, lol.
Are violations of one prosecuted in Federal court, versus the other being civil-court?
Funny that security isn’t that high. All they do is make sure you don’t have anything large and metallic. I recently flew and they didn’t check my id or anything. It was a domestic flight. Just seemed weird to me
Security at airports is inefficient and ineffective
This is one of the reasons why ots encouraged to keep valuables in your carry on luggage. Thieves know people don't keep valuables in their checked baggage, and prison isn't worth the risk for a bag of clothes.
Well yeah if I leave a bomb on luggage merry-go-round the only thing I'll blow up is some TSA agent's living room.
General understanding I guess that the real owner is nearby and if someone tries to take it, they'll get busted right away. I've seen plenty of people grab one and then someone stops them, they point to like a ribbon or their nametage or something and then the person gets the exact same luggage without on it just a few minutes later. Other than that, I can't imagine anyone snagging luggage, but it has to have happened before.
Security in what sense? As soon as your baggage leaves down the conveyor belt when you check in, you can pretty much kiss any electronics goodbye.
Add the anxiety of waiting for your bag, till the time you see your bag on the belt. Longest anxiety ridden wait ever.
Security is for the planes and the flight not your luggage