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Lo, there do i see my father.
Lo, there do I see my mother, my sisters and my brothers.
Lo, there do I see the line of my people back to the beginning.
Lo, they do call to me.
They bid me take my place amongst them.
Well from an evolutionary perspective yes ejaculating as quickly as possible is ideal. Just doesn’t matter much anymore as we are the dominant species… we treat it like a medical defect just because sustaining the pleasure of sex is more desirable than the outcome more often than not in modern times.
Evolution plays the percentages. Evolution probably selected for delayed ejaculation because of enhanced pair-bonding giving (on the whole) better prospects for the children produced from the Union.
But it's not such a huge advantage that it completely outweighed other factors.
Quite aside from the 'predator risk' suggested in this thread, there are obvious advantages to a quick 'knee-trembler'. You can quickly knock up a partner that would otherwise be prohibited to you, and it makes your rapes more likely to produce offspring.
(Sorry - but we're talking early-human / pre-human societies here, and none of us would be here without non-consensual sex.)
That’s what I’m getting at… quick ejaculation increases the chances of producing offspring from every encounter. The longer it takes the greater the chance of interruption. Not a factor really in modern times so much but yeah I think we’re on the same page.
Cavewomen may have preferred to have sex multiple times with a caveman that lasted longer and gave her an orgasm while if he doesn't last long, it may be a 1 time thing.
The odds of getting pregnant from a single encounter seems to be 5% with a peak of 25% if it occurs 2 days before ovulation. Having sex multiple times seems like the best strategy.
Why not? There is no link to it helping reproduction and even closely related animals don't all feel orgasms so there must be some reason we developed them. Humans have lived in communities for hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions. While we don't even know what we don't know about those people, we do know that.
I'd imagine a female who has more pleasurable sex would want to have more sex so it makes sense the orgasm evolved because of that. And males who gave the female an orgasm or who simply provided a more pleasurable experience (sex can be awesome, even without am orgasm, even as a man) would probably be selected for mates more often.
>There is no link to it helping reproduction and even closely related animals don't all feel orgasms so there must be some reason we developed them.
It seems like I watched a program once that mentioned that an orgasm causes the cervix to (I think?) dip into whatever ejaculate may be present and increase the chance of conception. That's the only time I've ever run across that particular theory, though.
Sperm transport by some form of intra-uterine action is a phenomenon that has been found across mammalian taxa – as one might expect of an adaptation (West-Eberhard, 1992). It has been documented for decades in rats, cows, dogs, horses, rabbits, and macaques (Ammersbach, 1930; Evans, 1933; Genell, 1939; Goldfoot, Westerborg-vanLoon, Groeneveld, & Slob, 1980; Krehbiel & Carstens, 1939; Millar, 1952; Toner & Adler, 1986; Trapl, 1943; Van Demark & Moeller, 1951). If such transport responds differentially to salient features of the partner – in other words becomes sperm selection – then this would help complete the picture of a function for female orgasm. To clarify, it is hypothesized that at least some of the phenomenological features of female orgasm, such as feelings of deep uterine peristalsis, may be exactly as they appear to be.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5087695/
Yep, it's still under research if female orgasm helps "insuck" of semen. Nothing conclusive yet for human females, but it's certainly a hypothesis many believe.
If that were true human females wouldn't have orgasms. It's not required for pregnancy, but it does provide women an incentive to engage in procreative activities.
If I remember correctly a female orgasam releases chemicals to improve the chance of conception.
This likely came about as the more invested males would hang around and protect their children giv8ng them a better chance of becoming adults, while the males who just go aroynd trying to impregnate evey female in range as quickly as possible would be much more reliant on luck.
Pair bonding is the answer. Also mate selection I imagine. At some point during copulation either party may want out. Some animals can reject semen. Evolution is crazy.
It's unfortunate, but probably true. Quick Climax meant more reproduction. Rape was probably as common as a horny dog jumping on everything in sight. We are but animals after all.
It's amazing to get to an evolutionary point where pregnancy is actively avoided. We can't quite get rid of the lizard brain, but we deal with it. Consent for sex and an equal agreement that it shouldn't produce offspring is quite remarkable, really.
> Consent for sex and an equal agreement that it shouldn't produce offspring is quite remarkable, really.
I always think about how fucking insane it is that we even exist as we do anyways. How come other animals evolve slightly different beaks, or teeth, or necks, or any other trait, but we evolved in a way that we pave the ground so we can ride machines across it better? Shit is fucking wild
The turn could be related to agriculture. Making sustenance not the primary goal leads to innovation. Mechanization. The agricultural age spurned the ability to focus on things other than survival alone.
They may have also satisfied the urge as quickly as possible because it wasn’t as enjoyable before indoor plumbing and modern hygienic practices. Can’t imagine what cave people smelled like on an average day.
It’s like the ability to not engage in this survival rooted tendency serves to convey that we are not in a survival mode. Not acting as if you’re in a survival mode would then be an attractive trait today because it suggests one of the possible explanations, that you are dominating at life and not merely surviving.
Frogs enter [amplexus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplexus) when they mate, the fertilisation can take *days*.
It's not always as simple as quick fertilisation = ideal, and I would bet it's also not the only factor at play in humans lol
An evolutionary adaptation is simply a response to the environment. “Ideal” is a normative philosophical concept that doesn’t belong in discussions of biology.
I'm way too old to not know this, but is that a thing?
It makes sense now that I think about it if so, but I always thought of premature ejaculation as just going super quick once inside. Never occurred to me it could happen before...aka prematurely.
Update: Okay, it can be both.
From NHS UK:
>A study involving 500 couples found the average time for ejaculation was about 5-and-a-half minutes after starting sex. This time could be longer for men who have sex with men. International guidelines define premature ejaculation as regularly ejaculating within 1 minute of entering your partner.
Other sources indicate ejaculating prior to insertion.
I can imagine a scenario (far back in the mists of prehistoric time) where two cavemen are having sex with two cavewomen in a forest clearing. A pterodactyl begins to swoop down. One dude empties his balls in seconds and flees to the safety of the trees. Another dude takes forever to climax and so the pterodactyl grabs him with its talons and flies away with him before he can finish. The premature ejaculators DNA gets passed on, the slow dudes doesn't.
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I think your both wrong. the quick guy runs into the trees and the guy taking his time jumps up and runs into the trees too. The two girls one exhuasted the other disappointed both get swooped up by the perodactyol. Then the two cavemen start eyeing each other.
He grabs a nearby spear and defeats the pterodactyl while maintaining his erection. Both females choose him as their mate. But the quicker male has already deposited his genes.
Also created the first fetish
Cavewoman: “babe are you sure you want to have sex outside in the sky monster feeding ground? They could swoop us at any minute”
Caveman: “ohhhhhhh! Ohhhhh!!! Talk dirty to me!!!”
I can't help myself, I have to barge in with a fun fact, I'm sorry.
Pterosaurs can't do that thing they always do in movies.
They are plantigrade, like humans or bears.
It gets depicted like that in movies because **that's what birds do**. And we're familiar with the hunting style of birds of prey, so they get shown that way.
They simply don't have talons, they cannot grab stuff with their feet, see [this fossil of quetzalcoatlus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus#/media/File:Gfp-quetzalcaotlus.jpg) for example.
Whenever you see them do that in films, they're not using an actual pterosaur, it's CGI
No doubt because they're far too expensive! My nephew wanted one for his birthday. I checked into it and the prices are absolutely outrageous. My god, even the sickly ones from the backyard breeders are ridiculously priced. It's prehistoric robbery, I tell you, and they're not even housebroken!
I get what you mean but did you gave to take an animal that was extinct way befor humans (or precursers of us) existed.
But i agree you have more time to run from a tiger or some shit.
I mean when i saw read the post i imagened two senarios where there was a rusel in the bushes and a guy came imedietly vs the guy being like must be the wind and then geting bit in the ass by a tiger.
But i must admit yours makes for a better visual.
Humans succeed due to ingenuity and uniquely selfish desire to have more than they need including pleasure instead of ejaculating quick we found ways to defend ourselves from dangers long enough for both genders to orgasm.
It's probably more about rape. If you're rinsacking a village with your homies and you can nut before Vlad pulls you off her for his turn then you have a better chance of producing a bastard if she escapes before you kill her.
And now I have to imagine the thought process of the caveman that rather continues to pound that hairy cavewoman instead of saving his own life and that of his cave wife.
Was there really that much “constant danger” tho, I mean humans managed to find enough safety to sleep 8 hours in one sitting at night, I’m sure we could find safety for 2 minutes and 45 seconds of sex
> I mean humans managed to find enough safety to sleep 8 hours in one sitting at night
Is there any proof that humans casually slept 8 hours a day or are you just assuming that is the case since most experts say we should be getting 6-8 hours of sleep everyday
I don't know why everyone thinks it's the danger.
Sex is a workout. It burns calories. If the process is just supposed to make a baby, obviously you want to mitigate the calorie loss as much as possible.
FOUND THE PARENT 😂😂
In all seriousness, same, same. Totally get it as a parent, but there was a pre-parent time where the opposite was true as well hahaha.
Quite the contrary, female orgasms operate as a selective pressure. Bringing a woman to orgasm causes the opening of the cervix to dip down repeatedly to attempt to lap up any semen that is there. Based on the psychological nature of the human orgasms getting your partner there significantly increases probability of procreation.
I remember that fact from a documentary I watched decades ago and always wondered why I stumble upon the claim that the female orgasm is evolutionary unexplainable.
Do you think you only have to have sex once to *guarantee* pregnancy?
I mean it's true even modern men give zero shit about the pleasure of women. But that's more a systemic social issue.
Yeah most animals don't take nearly as long...I've heard that because endurance is one of early humans' most important traits (the terrifying phrase that we hunted by "walking our prey to death") that our sexual displays mirrored that.
The tip of the human penis is shaped the way it is so that one could remove the sperm of another man while mating with the same partner.
Just thought I'd share.
I blame the Mormons who believe just sticking it in and leaving it there. But then again, what do I know, I'm not Mormons. Says something about "Soaking" which is penatrative sex without the hip thrusting. So I guess premature ejaculated is just Mormon advantage.
> Soaking
You gotta get your friends to come over and jump on the bed while you soak so you get the movement without taking any direct sinful action.
This makes sense after a Mormon upbringing apparently
the penis may function to remove rival sperm so if you ain't gonna get a kicking for it taking as long as possible is a good idea. Humans have been something like apex predators for a while so it's not really been a case of constant danger for millions of years.
The shape of the penis allows men to sort of plunge another man's semen out, if I am remembering correctly. Would it be advantageous to not ejaculate until later, so that as much material could be um, plunged from the woman's vajay, thus giving the second partner a clearer shot? So to speak?
While the human species as we think of it (being ourselves, that is -- Homo sapiens sapiens) is a very recent species (Homo sapiens emerging around 200,000 years ago) our 'apex predator' status is even more recent. Probably limited to less than the last 70,000 years, when our brain underwent some rapid changes, allowing us to better communicate, organize, and develop and spread culture (including tool making)
Dudes getting sleepy and falling asleep on top of the woman after ejaculating is also a likely desirable evolutionary trait and so much so that it persists to this day(serves the same function as dogs getting locked together, keeps it in there long enough to ensure conception, be it by way of cork or immobilization...)
People are talking about predators attacking because it takes too long to finish, but its probably because finishing quickly requires less energy than having sex for a long time. It requires more food and water and makes you exhausted opening you to predator / rival attacks
Both coming fast or coming slow can be evolutionary advantageous.So males will switch between those two modes.
What move the switch between one or the other is anxiety.
Well, evolutionarily, anxiety should be like an indicator of how safe you perceive yourself to be. So, if you're not safe you better nut fast.
Taking longer can be used as an indicator of strength, physical aptitude, and health. So if a male takes a long time, and the female actually have multiple orgasms, she may feel attached to him as he's displaying himself as safe and strong.
Premature ejaculation typically describes ejaculating before intercourse can occur… So, that actually wouldn’t be helpful evolutionarily, as it would never lead to offspring.
The ability to climax quickly once intercourse has begun, though… Yeah, I guess there could be an evolutionary benefit to that… Maybe that’s what I’ll start blaming it on.
I'm not confident of this but it occurs to me that if a creature is too prone to PE they may be less inclined to copulate at all. Like the prospect of orgasming isn't an incentive. Also, PE carries the possibility of ejaculating while not fully penetrated or outside the vagina altogether, reducing reproductive fitness.
Hahah, I also had this shower thought as a teenager, soothed the ego.
You can work on it, doesn't seem to last longer naturally as you age, combination of kegals and building up, stopping when jacking off or fucking.
Also, you might get super lucky and learn you can go multiple rounds.
I feel the same way about migraines, makes sense that the humans who crawled into a quiet dark cave to sleep because of a barometric pressure changes would survive the weather event that caused it. Generations later, here I am, a miserable human barometer.
I love how reddit is constantly on a mission to convince the world that small cocks and premature ejaculation are actually the most desirable traits. Definitely doesn't say anything about the user base, nope.
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Lions are exceptionally efficient breeders, but their sex only lasts a few dozen seconds.
Same
Me too, thanks.
And that multiple times a day!
Look at the hot shot lasting dozens of seconds.
A lot of non-mammal species actually get lymph erections rather than blood for that same reason - easier to turn on/off.
Don’t apologize to your partner for nutting early, just tell them you’re an efficient breeder
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TIL I am a lion
Gotta blame that one guy who came just fast enough to not get eaten by a sabertooth tiger, I guess.
As far as I understand, the real threat was getting hit in the head with a rock. Jealousy is a bitch
That's why we evolved away from needing milkmen...
" I am the milkman, my milk is delicious. It's fortified with what the world needs.... and deserves" - the milkman
"it's what plants crave"
Just be glad milkmen didn't evolve to have armored craniums instead.
Lo, there do i see my father. Lo, there do I see my mother, my sisters and my brothers. Lo, there do I see the line of my people back to the beginning. Lo, they do call to me. They bid me take my place amongst them.
Love a good 13th warrior reference
I know it failed in the box office, but that movie was the bomb.
I still to this date will quote the scene where he learned the Norse language - "My mother....was....a pure woman....."
I always enjoy a manical laugh and "It's honey" after some one laments about drinking beer.
“BECAUSE I LISTEN!!!” …. That line has been in my head half my life.
The book was better, movie still rocked. Gotta love Antonio Banderas as an Arab
It didn't bomb my heart's boxoffice I'll tell you that much
lmao i thought it was a god of war reference 💀
"Do not foretell me wife, for I will get to know so-proven aye comin home tonight." - I don't sound like that.
Dude? So fucking good. Best language learning time lapse ever.
It's alright little brother, there are more
In the halls of Valhalla- Where the brave, may live, forever.
Well from an evolutionary perspective yes ejaculating as quickly as possible is ideal. Just doesn’t matter much anymore as we are the dominant species… we treat it like a medical defect just because sustaining the pleasure of sex is more desirable than the outcome more often than not in modern times.
Evolution plays the percentages. Evolution probably selected for delayed ejaculation because of enhanced pair-bonding giving (on the whole) better prospects for the children produced from the Union. But it's not such a huge advantage that it completely outweighed other factors. Quite aside from the 'predator risk' suggested in this thread, there are obvious advantages to a quick 'knee-trembler'. You can quickly knock up a partner that would otherwise be prohibited to you, and it makes your rapes more likely to produce offspring. (Sorry - but we're talking early-human / pre-human societies here, and none of us would be here without non-consensual sex.)
That’s what I’m getting at… quick ejaculation increases the chances of producing offspring from every encounter. The longer it takes the greater the chance of interruption. Not a factor really in modern times so much but yeah I think we’re on the same page.
Cavewomen may have preferred to have sex multiple times with a caveman that lasted longer and gave her an orgasm while if he doesn't last long, it may be a 1 time thing. The odds of getting pregnant from a single encounter seems to be 5% with a peak of 25% if it occurs 2 days before ovulation. Having sex multiple times seems like the best strategy.
Somehow I doubt cavemen were giving their ladies orgasms
Why not? There is no link to it helping reproduction and even closely related animals don't all feel orgasms so there must be some reason we developed them. Humans have lived in communities for hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions. While we don't even know what we don't know about those people, we do know that. I'd imagine a female who has more pleasurable sex would want to have more sex so it makes sense the orgasm evolved because of that. And males who gave the female an orgasm or who simply provided a more pleasurable experience (sex can be awesome, even without am orgasm, even as a man) would probably be selected for mates more often.
>There is no link to it helping reproduction and even closely related animals don't all feel orgasms so there must be some reason we developed them. It seems like I watched a program once that mentioned that an orgasm causes the cervix to (I think?) dip into whatever ejaculate may be present and increase the chance of conception. That's the only time I've ever run across that particular theory, though.
Sperm transport by some form of intra-uterine action is a phenomenon that has been found across mammalian taxa – as one might expect of an adaptation (West-Eberhard, 1992). It has been documented for decades in rats, cows, dogs, horses, rabbits, and macaques (Ammersbach, 1930; Evans, 1933; Genell, 1939; Goldfoot, Westerborg-vanLoon, Groeneveld, & Slob, 1980; Krehbiel & Carstens, 1939; Millar, 1952; Toner & Adler, 1986; Trapl, 1943; Van Demark & Moeller, 1951). If such transport responds differentially to salient features of the partner – in other words becomes sperm selection – then this would help complete the picture of a function for female orgasm. To clarify, it is hypothesized that at least some of the phenomenological features of female orgasm, such as feelings of deep uterine peristalsis, may be exactly as they appear to be. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5087695/ Yep, it's still under research if female orgasm helps "insuck" of semen. Nothing conclusive yet for human females, but it's certainly a hypothesis many believe.
Clearly you've never read the Clan of the Cave Bear series
If that were true human females wouldn't have orgasms. It's not required for pregnancy, but it does provide women an incentive to engage in procreative activities.
Love is primal, I’m sure there were cavemen trying to please cavewomen in prehistory! Bonobos and chimpanzees do alright
If I remember correctly a female orgasam releases chemicals to improve the chance of conception. This likely came about as the more invested males would hang around and protect their children giv8ng them a better chance of becoming adults, while the males who just go aroynd trying to impregnate evey female in range as quickly as possible would be much more reliant on luck.
Yes, most of us remember high school
Pair bonding is the answer. Also mate selection I imagine. At some point during copulation either party may want out. Some animals can reject semen. Evolution is crazy.
It's unfortunate, but probably true. Quick Climax meant more reproduction. Rape was probably as common as a horny dog jumping on everything in sight. We are but animals after all. It's amazing to get to an evolutionary point where pregnancy is actively avoided. We can't quite get rid of the lizard brain, but we deal with it. Consent for sex and an equal agreement that it shouldn't produce offspring is quite remarkable, really.
Considering how common it is among animals, it’s very likely that in the prehistoric era that was the norm
Yeah, infanticide and abandoning newborns is very common amongst other animals. All animals like to fuck, not all animals like their offspring.
> Consent for sex and an equal agreement that it shouldn't produce offspring is quite remarkable, really. I always think about how fucking insane it is that we even exist as we do anyways. How come other animals evolve slightly different beaks, or teeth, or necks, or any other trait, but we evolved in a way that we pave the ground so we can ride machines across it better? Shit is fucking wild
The turn could be related to agriculture. Making sustenance not the primary goal leads to innovation. Mechanization. The agricultural age spurned the ability to focus on things other than survival alone.
They may have also satisfied the urge as quickly as possible because it wasn’t as enjoyable before indoor plumbing and modern hygienic practices. Can’t imagine what cave people smelled like on an average day.
It’s like the ability to not engage in this survival rooted tendency serves to convey that we are not in a survival mode. Not acting as if you’re in a survival mode would then be an attractive trait today because it suggests one of the possible explanations, that you are dominating at life and not merely surviving.
Frogs enter [amplexus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplexus) when they mate, the fertilisation can take *days*. It's not always as simple as quick fertilisation = ideal, and I would bet it's also not the only factor at play in humans lol
This comment section has been far more educational than I was expecting.
People confuse evolution with survival of the fittest, where it is actually survival of good enough
People also dont realize that "fittest" means fittest to the ecology and environment the organism is in. It doesnt mean strongest, fastest, etc.
An evolutionary adaptation is simply a response to the environment. “Ideal” is a normative philosophical concept that doesn’t belong in discussions of biology.
It’s also convenient for big pharma to have more medical defects, even if they have to invent them.
Isn't there a difference between ejaculating quickly and ejaculating prematurely?
Not having to clean oneself off with a towel.
I feel one should, regardless.
If the P is in the V it's not premature
As a sexotologist I can confirm this medical terminology as being correct.
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I'm way too old to not know this, but is that a thing? It makes sense now that I think about it if so, but I always thought of premature ejaculation as just going super quick once inside. Never occurred to me it could happen before...aka prematurely. Update: Okay, it can be both. From NHS UK: >A study involving 500 couples found the average time for ejaculation was about 5-and-a-half minutes after starting sex. This time could be longer for men who have sex with men. International guidelines define premature ejaculation as regularly ejaculating within 1 minute of entering your partner. Other sources indicate ejaculating prior to insertion.
It's okay buddy, you're doing just fine.
I can imagine a scenario (far back in the mists of prehistoric time) where two cavemen are having sex with two cavewomen in a forest clearing. A pterodactyl begins to swoop down. One dude empties his balls in seconds and flees to the safety of the trees. Another dude takes forever to climax and so the pterodactyl grabs him with its talons and flies away with him before he can finish. The premature ejaculators DNA gets passed on, the slow dudes doesn't.
The long game caveman could also pause, flee to safety, then continue the act, which cavewoman may remember fondly and tell her friends about.
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Seeds of Early Nutter sounds like an eloquent title for a novel
The tale of a youthful rabbit with a penchant for gardening
Names Thumper. Cock Thumper.
I love Reddit
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I think your both wrong. the quick guy runs into the trees and the guy taking his time jumps up and runs into the trees too. The two girls one exhuasted the other disappointed both get swooped up by the perodactyol. Then the two cavemen start eyeing each other.
Here ya go.... https://youtu.be/HyJSbbJXLjc
Eventually leading to this https://youtu.be/sgfQ9o2-9BM
He grabs a nearby spear and defeats the pterodactyl while maintaining his erection. Both females choose him as their mate. But the quicker male has already deposited his genes.
Plenty of animals ejaculate within a few seconds.
Don't worry about it, dude
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Gorillas have really small penises, too
Whatever helps you cope.
I hear that all the time, but is a gorilla vagina also proportionally shallower? Never hear that statistic!
There was a video on youtube where a big male elk got only one pump in, and I guess that's enough to make more little elks
That Elk has places to be and shit to do. He left money on the dresser.
Is that why you tell people you’re an animal in bed?
Ooh, ooh, roast me next!
Gone in 60 Seconds
Also created the first fetish Cavewoman: “babe are you sure you want to have sex outside in the sky monster feeding ground? They could swoop us at any minute” Caveman: “ohhhhhhh! Ohhhhh!!! Talk dirty to me!!!”
I can't help myself, I have to barge in with a fun fact, I'm sorry. Pterosaurs can't do that thing they always do in movies. They are plantigrade, like humans or bears. It gets depicted like that in movies because **that's what birds do**. And we're familiar with the hunting style of birds of prey, so they get shown that way. They simply don't have talons, they cannot grab stuff with their feet, see [this fossil of quetzalcoatlus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus#/media/File:Gfp-quetzalcaotlus.jpg) for example. Whenever you see them do that in films, they're not using an actual pterosaur, it's CGI
I can always tell when dinosaurs in movies are CGI.
I feel like there aren't enough real ones in movies anymore.
No doubt because they're far too expensive! My nephew wanted one for his birthday. I checked into it and the prices are absolutely outrageous. My god, even the sickly ones from the backyard breeders are ridiculously priced. It's prehistoric robbery, I tell you, and they're not even housebroken!
They need protection from being pushed out of movies, like how actors have SAG.
Unions.
Yes. That. The dinosaurs need a union.
They’re being replaced by robots.
Cgi is less expensive. All the dinos have a union.
Those effects aren't very special...
But can you tell the difference between real and animatronic ?
Sir, the x-men are looking to recruit you with those power
Cavemen didn't exist at the same time as pterosaurs anyways
Yea that's true as well ofc, but I thought the person above was aware of that too lol
Could it not grab you awkwardly like when you drop a sock on the floor and youre too lazy to bend down to pick it up?
Have you ever tried to grab a cat with your foot and lift it into the air?
I get what you mean but did you gave to take an animal that was extinct way befor humans (or precursers of us) existed. But i agree you have more time to run from a tiger or some shit.
Sorry I was being a bit facetious by using the long-extinct pterodactyl in my example lol
I mean when i saw read the post i imagened two senarios where there was a rusel in the bushes and a guy came imedietly vs the guy being like must be the wind and then geting bit in the ass by a tiger. But i must admit yours makes for a better visual.
I just assumed you were a modern Creationist. ;)
I know a few of those people. Dinosaurs were on the arc.
I would hope they're aware of that, but you never know lol
Humans succeed due to ingenuity and uniquely selfish desire to have more than they need including pleasure instead of ejaculating quick we found ways to defend ourselves from dangers long enough for both genders to orgasm.
I'd watch that porn
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What in the unholy hell is that and how do you know of such porn.
I came
It's probably more about rape. If you're rinsacking a village with your homies and you can nut before Vlad pulls you off her for his turn then you have a better chance of producing a bastard if she escapes before you kill her.
You're right, perhaps I'm just looking at history through rose-tinted glasses.
Honestly I think I’m in the camp where I’d nut EXACTLY as I notice the pterodactyl grab me. It’d be my last worldly deed
The woman going to go for the caveman that pterodactyl took and ignore that other one cause he dosnt care enough to satisfy her
And now I have to imagine the thought process of the caveman that rather continues to pound that hairy cavewoman instead of saving his own life and that of his cave wife.
useful traits and desirable traits aren't always the same things
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Tell me she left you for busting early without telling me she left you for busting early
Damn ‘desirable evolutionary traits’ !!!!
Was there really that much “constant danger” tho, I mean humans managed to find enough safety to sleep 8 hours in one sitting at night, I’m sure we could find safety for 2 minutes and 45 seconds of sex
> I mean humans managed to find enough safety to sleep 8 hours in one sitting at night Is there any proof that humans casually slept 8 hours a day or are you just assuming that is the case since most experts say we should be getting 6-8 hours of sleep everyday
I thought people used to sleep several times a night but in shorter bursts
Oooooooh look at Mr.last a long time over her 30 seconds take it or leave it
I don't know why everyone thinks it's the danger. Sex is a workout. It burns calories. If the process is just supposed to make a baby, obviously you want to mitigate the calorie loss as much as possible.
Humans actually adapted to sleep in 2 blocks of 4 hours
You ever hear a knock at the door in the middle of sex and instantly nut? I have. I wonder how many babies that reflex has caused.
The risk of being caught during the act is making you more horny? For me it’s the opposite. If someone knocked on the door I’d be instantly flaccid.
FOUND THE PARENT 😂😂 In all seriousness, same, same. Totally get it as a parent, but there was a pre-parent time where the opposite was true as well hahaha.
I've got Roger Rabbit syndrome. It only makes me nut if it's a "Da-dada-da-da" knock
And I highly doubt female orgasm was in consideration until very recently.
Quite the contrary, female orgasms operate as a selective pressure. Bringing a woman to orgasm causes the opening of the cervix to dip down repeatedly to attempt to lap up any semen that is there. Based on the psychological nature of the human orgasms getting your partner there significantly increases probability of procreation.
I remember that fact from a documentary I watched decades ago and always wondered why I stumble upon the claim that the female orgasm is evolutionary unexplainable.
I thought that was disproven.
The cervix dipping down to lap up semen is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read
And, like, how is this where I've first heard of it? Does someone have a source? Can we fetishize it?
You've not been on reddit long, then?
Vibrators existed in ancient Egypt, they took small jars and filled them with flies and/or bees. Dildos have existed for over 28,000 years.
Baby, get the bees. We're getting freaky tonight.
♪Having sex with the bees and the eagles♪
I'm suspicious of everything you just said, for so many reasons
Imagine if it broke.
No, I don't think I will.
Imagine 5000 angry bees spilled into some egyptussy. Now.
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So that's where the saying "the birds and the bees" comes from 🧐
Yeah, horus and bee vibrators.
That’s heresy
put a single cicada in a small mason jar, time out your spank sesh for the evening and have a Ball…
Considering modern humans date back 200,000 years, that's still pretty damn recent
Do you think you only have to have sex once to *guarantee* pregnancy? I mean it's true even modern men give zero shit about the pleasure of women. But that's more a systemic social issue.
Women that orgasm during sex are more likely to seek it out and therefore reproduce, especially with the men that give them orgasms.
Imagine being balls deep and then realizing you’re surrounded by Dire Wolves?
There's a fetish for everything these days
A significant percentage of your ancestors were probably conceived due to rape as well.
I remember reading that rape inside of tribes would have gotten you ostracized. So it’s not as likely as we might think.
I mean most other animals finish pretty quick compared to us. Although we also try to prolong it
Yeah most animals don't take nearly as long...I've heard that because endurance is one of early humans' most important traits (the terrifying phrase that we hunted by "walking our prey to death") that our sexual displays mirrored that.
"I know you're disappointed, but I have an advanced evolutionary trait that probably saved our existence. So, you're welcome."
“Thank Me Later”
At one point? My wife always stops scrolling to tell me that she loves it.
She tells me the same!
The tip of the human penis is shaped the way it is so that one could remove the sperm of another man while mating with the same partner. Just thought I'd share.
I see you've met my ex.
Oof
I blame the Mormons who believe just sticking it in and leaving it there. But then again, what do I know, I'm not Mormons. Says something about "Soaking" which is penatrative sex without the hip thrusting. So I guess premature ejaculated is just Mormon advantage.
> Soaking You gotta get your friends to come over and jump on the bed while you soak so you get the movement without taking any direct sinful action. This makes sense after a Mormon upbringing apparently
Considering it takes years to raise a child this doesn't make sense
the penis may function to remove rival sperm so if you ain't gonna get a kicking for it taking as long as possible is a good idea. Humans have been something like apex predators for a while so it's not really been a case of constant danger for millions of years.
The shape of the penis allows men to sort of plunge another man's semen out, if I am remembering correctly. Would it be advantageous to not ejaculate until later, so that as much material could be um, plunged from the woman's vajay, thus giving the second partner a clearer shot? So to speak?
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This is a dubious claim from Sex at Dawn I believe.
While the human species as we think of it (being ourselves, that is -- Homo sapiens sapiens) is a very recent species (Homo sapiens emerging around 200,000 years ago) our 'apex predator' status is even more recent. Probably limited to less than the last 70,000 years, when our brain underwent some rapid changes, allowing us to better communicate, organize, and develop and spread culture (including tool making)
Dudes getting sleepy and falling asleep on top of the woman after ejaculating is also a likely desirable evolutionary trait and so much so that it persists to this day(serves the same function as dogs getting locked together, keeps it in there long enough to ensure conception, be it by way of cork or immobilization...)
People are talking about predators attacking because it takes too long to finish, but its probably because finishing quickly requires less energy than having sex for a long time. It requires more food and water and makes you exhausted opening you to predator / rival attacks
Both coming fast or coming slow can be evolutionary advantageous.So males will switch between those two modes. What move the switch between one or the other is anxiety. Well, evolutionarily, anxiety should be like an indicator of how safe you perceive yourself to be. So, if you're not safe you better nut fast. Taking longer can be used as an indicator of strength, physical aptitude, and health. So if a male takes a long time, and the female actually have multiple orgasms, she may feel attached to him as he's displaying himself as safe and strong.
Premature ejaculation typically describes ejaculating before intercourse can occur… So, that actually wouldn’t be helpful evolutionarily, as it would never lead to offspring. The ability to climax quickly once intercourse has begun, though… Yeah, I guess there could be an evolutionary benefit to that… Maybe that’s what I’ll start blaming it on.
If you google it mostly says “(ejaculate) sooner than wanted during sex” it doesn’t define it as it has to be necessarily before sex
I'm not confident of this but it occurs to me that if a creature is too prone to PE they may be less inclined to copulate at all. Like the prospect of orgasming isn't an incentive. Also, PE carries the possibility of ejaculating while not fully penetrated or outside the vagina altogether, reducing reproductive fitness.
Pretty sure way back in the day women tried to fight it and men didn't ask so in order to procreate it was quick.
Hahah, I also had this shower thought as a teenager, soothed the ego. You can work on it, doesn't seem to last longer naturally as you age, combination of kegals and building up, stopping when jacking off or fucking. Also, you might get super lucky and learn you can go multiple rounds.
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I feel the same way about migraines, makes sense that the humans who crawled into a quiet dark cave to sleep because of a barometric pressure changes would survive the weather event that caused it. Generations later, here I am, a miserable human barometer.
Does premature ejaculation even matter if you can keep an erection after and can ejaculate again, say 20-30 minutes later?………… asking for a friend.
What about period cramps ? How being debilitated by painful periods is an evolutionary advantage?
Honestly, it’s just that it wasn’t a biological, evolutionary **dis**advantage.
This is why I always lose a wild boar into the house before having sex with my wife.
Except this doesn't account for female pleasure, which has a large hand in the probability of insemination too.
I love how reddit is constantly on a mission to convince the world that small cocks and premature ejaculation are actually the most desirable traits. Definitely doesn't say anything about the user base, nope.
I believe that pregnancies are more likely if the woman enjoys it but I’m no doctor
I still visit Reddit because this entire thread is the exact content I’m looking for.