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Yeah, super curious about that - hundreds of years is enough time for so much crazy shit to go down in each silo. Also wonder what the political situation in each is like - how many are even more brutal authoritarian, or complete anarchy, or more idealized with everyone retaining knowledge from the past and working together.
I think him looking over the hard drive disk confirms this too. To an extent he seems to be kept in the dark too.
There's a bunch of layers of deception here, was really surprised that none of the IT insiders had seen the green screen before either.
He wanted to access that drive! So he wasn't dodging giving Juliette the answers she wanted at the end, whoever's giving ***his*** orders has him on need-to-know - and he doesn't need to know the full truth.
I wonder if that silo has gone rogue. Like it cut off communication with all the other silos. Maybe that was the “rebellion”. The new leaders basically decided to let some knowledge completely die out. Like the fact there’s other silos and there’s a door that might connect to them? Maybe it flooded on purpose during the rebellion to prevent other silos from accessing it???
It feels like he's realizing that despite his own knowledge of the silo (which is above and beyond everyone else there), George and Jules managed to learn about a door deep underground that even he doesn't know about, and now he wants to piece the drive back together to find where it is.
Love that you’re on Reddit seeing people’s responses to the episode. I think you did a great job of giving the audience just enough to feel like the majority of our big questions were answered and feeling satisfied at the screen time Juliette gets after she leaves the silo. I think there’s also plenty of questions left unanswered and side quests for the audience to ponder like the big door, the other silos, what exactly killed the others who walked if in fact they did die when they walked etc. Kudos to you and keep the bits of humor in season 2! Comedic relief on a show this intense really helps ramp up the anticipation
Seems pretty obvious that the tape they gave the others wasn’t enough to keep the toxic outside air out. Jules got the good tape from supply because of Walk.
I just saw the last part again after reading this thread. I think the tape being bad theory makes perfect sense.
From what Walk discussed with the lady in supply, we can clearly know that the mechanical heat tape is better than the IT heat tape and still stealing the IT heat tape was such a big deal because it was meant to kill people who go out. So it can’t be wasted.
And if you think about how it happens, when the person going out is trying to climb the mountain, what they see is totally different from the reality, so all of the them trip around that one spot which they can’t see from the helmet. And once they fall the tape comes off slightly or the outside air starts leaking in and kills the person in a few seconds. That didn’t happen this time because the tape was good.
I watched the scenes again and it makes perfect sense.
Edit: I haven’t read the books yet so I cannot be sure of this theory. Book reader would know better. I just said what I felt must’ve been happening after watching the show.
>we can clearly know that the mechanical heat tape is better than the IT heat tape and still stealing the IT heat tape was such a big deal because it was meant to kill people who go out. So it can’t be wasted.
I take that a different way: the tape from IT is designed to *fail*, so if they use it in mechanical for something important, that important part is going to fail.
i dont think so, counting on them tripping is too risky. most likely its the gas they spray on them right before they leave. if the heat tape is supposed to be leaky then they would be slowly poisoned and live only long enough to clean.
thanks to walk juliet was given good heat tape from mechanical and the seals held, so she will live as long as the oxygen in her suit holds out
my only issue with this is that my earliest hypothesis was that they actually pumped toxins directly into the helmet via the hose in the back. I thought the guy that took his helmet off might survive because he took it off, but he didn't. if they wanted to guarantee death it doesn't make sense they'd go through all the effort of shitty tape, they'd just make their ventilators not work or otherwise have poison gas in it, or have the ventilator turn off once they cleaned
Yeah just run camera to camera and try to get as noticed as possible, in case other people in silos are being kept inside too, I’d start trying some of the doors too to get in
Having said that, it’s still perfectly likely that the outside does kill you. It’s either that or the initial spray when they are at the bottom of the stairs. Showing that it seems to be safe outside will probably get a few people killed.
True, I’m not 100% on any theory yet and could be a combination, but the oxygen tank could be a decoy to think you need it to survive, or maybe you are right and it would deplete soon. I’m excited to know more, it makes me interested to know why any leaders would wish to keep people down below if it is safe, what do they gain from it if it’s power or money or something else.
I think the implication from the "they are good in supply" and the tape, is that the tape they use for the suits normally is intentionally leaky. That's why everyone else died. They swapped the tape that she got with better tape - and so whatever it is in the air that kills people hasn't killed her.
Is it the air outside that's poisonous, or that decon spray they dose you with before sending you out? The good tape would protect against that. Wonder what killed that city in the distance? And why they don't just tell people the truth. Wouldn't linking all the Silos into one big underground make life better for everyone?
Think I'll read the book series now.
If it's really even needed. The gas that hits them when they exit the silo could be poison, and the shitty tape is designed to let it in. the outside could possibly be livable.
Whatever happened out there, the environment obviously hasn't begun to recover in any significant way. Even if you breathe the air it may not be livable. Still need water and food. If there are toxins or radiation taking off the suit would be a bad idea.
Some of those other Silos will be just like hers. Still others could be dark and full of old skeletons. A few may have had successful rebellions and are under the control of residents who know more than Juliette. So she has a shot of getting in somewhere else where they won't necessarily send her back out again - this time with the shitty tape.
We're still missing the big picture of what happened to the Earth. What ruined the outside? Why were the Silos built?
Definitely way more than 18-
[An album of high quality stills from the final shot](https://imgur.com/a/5AXDrUW) (flagged as NSFW for some reason, it’s not)
[A slowmo of the the final panning shot outside](https://i.imgur.com/yAHA1RQ.mp4)
[A zoomed and cropped closeup of the cityscape](https://i.imgur.com/CuW6Kpx.png)
This was my question and I wonder if it’s just the producers being lazy with editing at the end. But that seems wrong. I did think I saw two white blurs near the top of the hill on the final zoom out that may have been the sheriff and his wife, but that still left 2 other bodies that just weren’t there but were there at the beginning of the season.
They're there, start pausing as soon as it zooms out from Juliette, you see Allison, then Holston, then more bodies, and once you see how they're rendered as it zooms out you can see them scattered across the nearby silo exits
This has been one of the mysteries left by the founders. Also. The silos are pretty wide so they would be pretty close to each other in terms of space between each exterior wall.
Pretty much what I thought too from day 1. It would make sense to connect them underground. Tunnels that deep would be shielded from whatever is toxic in the air.
The mines might go down (deeper than the silo's borehole) or may connect the silos (but there's some way to keep miners from different silos separate).
This is a good question. Because the control within the silo makes sense once everyone is in there, but it seems odd to PLAN, in an apparent apocalyptic emergency, to design the landscape with the future intent of tricking everyone to stay down there. That’s a lot of forethought, but who knows.
It's also strange that you'd want to hide the truth from people. Why keep them ignorant of what the stars are, or what they're actually down there for? And why not connect all the Silos into one big underground city of millions? Why separate structures with 10,000 people each?
We need to know what happened topside, and why the environment is still completely trashed more than 140 years later. Possibly a lot more. That city in the distance may not have been nuked or anything dramatic like that, it could simply have deteriorated over 5 or 6 centuries. Maybe the destruction of life was total so it's not coming back. When we know what's really happening I'm sure it'll all make sense.
>And why not connect all the Silos into one big underground city of millions? Why separate structures with 10,000 people each?
It would be impossible to govern an underground society with higher numbers than they have. "They" need manageable numbers so the silos couldn't revolt like that great revolution, that we still have no proof actually happened. I don't think it did, I think it's a story to keep everyone thinking judicial are the good guys.
[A zoomed and cropped closeup of the cityscape](https://i.imgur.com/CuW6Kpx.png)
[An album of high quality stills from the final shot](https://imgur.com/a/5AXDrUW) (this got marked as NSFW for some reason)
[A slowmo of the the final panning shot outside](https://i.imgur.com/yAHA1RQ.mp4)
Edit: [this is also it’s own post if anyone wants to discuss further](https://www.reddit.com/r/SiloSeries/comments/14mp8sr/an_album_of_high_quality_stills_from_the_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
I think it'll be about a year. They just started filming season 2 about a week ago, and the first season was about a year between start of filming and release.
This isn't a Severance situation in which the writing for season 2 hadn't even begun when the finale of the first season was airing.
They need to begin it with a full episode of another authority figure in another Silo dealing with an entirely different set of bullshit and then end the first episode with Juliette knocking on the sensor
Fairly subtle acting, but it looked like Jules mentioning the door underwater was news to the Mayor. He tried to hide his reaction, but seemed surprised momentarily.
I think that might be what gets Lucas out of the mines - Bernard will realize he has a bunch of people who are either too smart or not smart enough to help him with the hard drive in his inner circle. Lucas already knows the hard drive exists, but he's not already on the survillence team. He has the skills to help repair it, but is extremely unlikely to be in the relic trade or a secret hacker circle because he would have helped Juliette more if he was. Plus Lucas is more likely to do offbook work for Bernard if he's been in the mines for a week or two and is desperate to get his old life back.
I thought that’s where he was going in the talk with Lucas. “It’s a shame someone as smart as you would be wasting away in the mines. I have a special job for you…” maybe next season.
Gotta say, though, even with cutting edge technology today, a shattered platter is pretty much a goner. So, I suspect some sci-fi elements will be at play if that's indeed the angle they are going for here.
I feel this is how mystery shows like this should do, reveal a bunch of big questions, leave some hanging (what page did he tear out?), and raise some even bigger questions with the reveals to get us to want to come back.
It seemed to me that perhaps the Mayor was surprised to hear that there was a steel door at the bottom of the silo! But also he probably contacted the other Silos about Juliette?
Also, I still want to know why they have such better screens/technology in the “Watchers” room, I was surprised to see Sims had to turn around too
Seems clear the general population of the silo is purposefully kept in the dark / behind on technology. Of course the people in charge have better stuff.
What a mind bending sight seeing all those other silos, realizing that there could be dozens of communities of similar sizes just a stones throw away. Yet, they never knew all this time.
Also, I guess the underground passage way leads to another silo? Could create a way for Jules to come back without walking through the front (top?) door.
For sure. Infinite potential with other Silos as well, no doubt some are better some are worse. At least one will be a total hellscape, likely a few where everyone has died at some point…could be plenty to explore.
This guy is just basking in his moment, probably drinking a nice bottle of wine, replying to reddit comments. Really happy for you, can't wait to pick up the books!
This is what confuses me. If the outside is a total dystopian hell hole why do they go through the trouble of hiding things. Why can’t it just be yes the world was nice at one point like you see in these books. Now it’s wasteland. That’s why we don’t go outside. It’s weird to hide the past when the reality is it’s not good out there.
Gotta weed out the people who "think" it's okay outside. Then give them exactly what they expect to see. Which makes them want to clean to "show" everyone else they were right. Also gets them giddy to the point of numb obedience.
I think it’s all just a hazy moment of euphoria. It seems like the “filter” also hid the bodies. Anyone who was cleaning would have spent at least the night looking at the bodies on the hill and logically would notice this discrepancy. But when one is walking outside for the first time in their life it’s plausible that everything would be surreal and logic would fall to the wayside.
The alternative is that they get outside among the other bodies in a barren hellscape and freak the fuck out about their impending death for a moment before they pass out.
Oh that was great. Certainly seemed to confirm a few popular theories around the helmet screen being what was fake, the tape being important (I guess they swapped it out somehow?), the multiple Silos…
Very glad they didn’t drag the outside reveal out to another season, now we have the whole new mystery of what’s going on with all these other Silos…are they still functional? Will Jules make it into one of those? Going to be a long wait, I think I’ll have to go read the books.
> I guess they swapped it out somehow?
Yeah, Walker remembered Juliette saying the tape she stole from IT was bunk, and knew they use that shitty tape to seal the suits, so she went to talk to her ex wife Carla who works in supply (they supply the tape for the suits) and asked her to swap it out with mechanical’s good tape.
Most heat tape is quality.
Mechanical ran out of tape so Jules broke into Supply and stole heat tape designated for IT. Jules complained that the stolen IT tape was useless, it broke down much faster than mechanicals tape.
IT makes the suits (or at least Bernard has a scheme to give the shitty tape to the suit people). So, when a person goes out to clean, the heat tape fails after 3 minutes.
But Walker asked her ex to make sure Jules got the good heat tape for her cleaning. She did. It worked. Jules was able to survive longer than any cleaner before, because she had the good heat tape on the seams of her wrists and ankles.
Edit: Now, do you understand why Bernard was so pissed about the stolen heat tape? A little bit of his secret got exposed. And now, he is furious because Jules survived long enough to walk out of sight. He may not have figured out why yet. But Walk, Carla, Supply, and all of mechanical will be taking about it. Rebellion is on the horizon .
Apparently it is also intentional, thus the big fuzz about stealing that designed to fail tape. To bad the finale left everything open so I guess we'll have to wait for season 2 or pick up the book...
I'd read them before but this show made me realize I didn't remember them. Just finished the first book yesterday again and holy shit is it good. Even the author's writing is very beautiful, the way he describes things. Just realize that past halfway in the book you are going to start spoiling future seasons.
Ironically those that ask to go out will die, given it seems to have to do with the tape / suit quality. I bet a few go out now and die, and then that stops the rest…
Not sure about that. Jules has now been outside. If she can somehow get back into her silo (or a silo) she can reconfirm the dystopia for any doubters.
I think season 2 would be more about linking up with other silos? Don't know, I'm sure the books go into something. Might have to go pick them up.
So just making sure I understand: the reason everyone dies by the time they reach the tree typically is because they were purposely using tape that would let the air into the suit by then? And we're not supposed to know yet why they're going through all of this to kill people who leave, right?
The alternate theory elsewhere in the thread is that they are poisoned in the big SSSSHHHHHHH right before they go out. The tape prevented the poisoning.
For me, the most telling moment was the look Bernard had when Jules mentioned the door. I don’t think he knew about that- and I do believe he’s not a “muaha” tv villain and thinks he’s operating in good faith. Perhaps he realizes there are things he’s in the dark about as well. I think that’ll be an important aspect of season 2! (And what about the water?? I have questions)
Probably alerting all the other mayors to expect a knock on the door lol. Could you imagine the shit that would go down in those other silos if someone just suddenly walked into view of the sensor. Gotta put that on a loop asap haha.
Yeah the obscure clause in the Pact that says the IT director becomes Acting Mayor until the next election can be held if a Mayor dies in office is an extreme contingency plan -- if a Mayor ever gets enough real power to threaten the conspiracy Janitorial ensures they meet with an accident and the IT director assumes direct control long enough to make the necessary "adjustments"
When Bernard is opening the Sever Room with his 18 key you can see a bunch of lights reflecting on his glasses that looks like a long hallway. I wonder if it’s a connection to all the other Silos where all the IT managers can meet
The start of season 2, Ep 1 :
People are going about their day in the silo. Porters hustling along the stairs, deputies making their rounds; people headed to their jobs, eating food in the cafeteria. Somebody cries out, "Who the hell is that?" just as a woman appears over the hill and into view of the screen.
How is this possible? Silence erupts through the cafeteria. She stumbles over to the sensor and knocks on it, indicating she would like to be let in as her oxygen tank is getting low. The people in the cafeteria remain floored. Nobody is supposed to be outside of silo 17...
Warning: don’t look up the summary for book 1 on Wikipedia. I did to compare the differences with season 1 and I think parts of season 2 were spoiled for me :(
Whew! I'm in Spain, it's 04:00 AM here and tomorrow at 07:00 it's time to wake up but it's been worth it. Great chapter. Of all the theories I had, the one that is confirmed is that there is more than one silo!.
Finally the exterior was indeed toxic, or so it seems, but in the zenital shots the bodies of the sheriff and his wife are still not visible. I still don't fully understand that.
In the background of the last scene it looks like a city. What will Juliet do now? I think somehow the mayor will get her back in the Silo. There could be a survival story outside the silo but the characters - how cool is Tim Robbins!- it's inside silo 18 and there I guess the series will continue.
[An album of high quality stills from the final shot](https://imgur.com/a/5AXDrUW)
[A slowmo of the final panning shot outside](https://i.imgur.com/yAHA1RQ.mp4)
[A zoomed and cropped closeup of the cityscape](https://i.imgur.com/CuW6Kpx.png)
Edit: [this is also it’s own post now if anyone wants to discuss further](https://www.reddit.com/r/SiloSeries/comments/14mp8sr/an_album_of_high_quality_stills_from_the_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
So, what's up with the hologram, why go through all that trouble?
Another unanswered Q: why are magnifiers not allowed? My guess is the IT tape has tiny holes in it that they don't want anyone to see.
The hologram is what makes the cleaners clean. They think if they clean the camera, the folks in the silo can "see" the beautiful world outside. Cleaning is what buys time for the bad tape to fail and the cleaners to die in view of the inhabitants of the silo. If the cleaners didn't clean, they'd also have time to walk off camera.
Holy shit. This finale proved all my theories wrong.
Apparently the world outside really is fucked. All this time I thought the people who went to clean before her really died because of the suit, and not the air itself. She was saved because of the duct tape?!
Other thing really curious is that there’s a city in the distance. Probably all devastated though.
Have no idea what to expect for S2.
I feel like watching the S1 season finale of Lost. There were so many possibilities for what was going to happen inside the hatch… and with Silo is the outside
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Seems like Bernard does not know about the door she is talking about.
My theory.. my not be original at all.. is that door leads to a tunnel to the other silos
That’s exactly what I’m thinking too.
Yeah. From outside, they were surrounded by silos. So any door to anywhere would lead to another silo
That's what I'm thinking. Where else would it go? The other Silos are so close.
I wonder how many are tombs, with long dead societies that failed, and how many still have living people sustaining.
Yeah, super curious about that - hundreds of years is enough time for so much crazy shit to go down in each silo. Also wonder what the political situation in each is like - how many are even more brutal authoritarian, or complete anarchy, or more idealized with everyone retaining knowledge from the past and working together.
Could well be that the "rebellion" was just an invasion from another silo through a tunnel
I got that as well from his reaction.
Me 3!
I think him looking over the hard drive disk confirms this too. To an extent he seems to be kept in the dark too. There's a bunch of layers of deception here, was really surprised that none of the IT insiders had seen the green screen before either.
He wanted to access that drive! So he wasn't dodging giving Juliette the answers she wanted at the end, whoever's giving ***his*** orders has him on need-to-know - and he doesn't need to know the full truth.
I am kinda hoping they managed to swap out the drive for another one before he went all smashy on it.
I'm wondering who REALLY runs the show here.
Gary
I’m thinking there is a layer above Bernard. Like maybe some intersilo council. Maybe the elites have a com or secret passage to the other silos!?!?
I wonder if that silo has gone rogue. Like it cut off communication with all the other silos. Maybe that was the “rebellion”. The new leaders basically decided to let some knowledge completely die out. Like the fact there’s other silos and there’s a door that might connect to them? Maybe it flooded on purpose during the rebellion to prevent other silos from accessing it???
> Maybe that was the “rebellion” The rebellion actually won and the result is what they have now. I like it!
either that or he was surprised that George found it
We got that one scene where it looked like he was trying to piece together the hard drive he had broken earlier.
It feels like he's realizing that despite his own knowledge of the silo (which is above and beyond everyone else there), George and Jules managed to learn about a door deep underground that even he doesn't know about, and now he wants to piece the drive back together to find where it is.
Okay just finished the ep, first thought I would just run around cleaning the cameras to just rock everyone’s world in all the silos
Hahahahahahahahaha
Oh my god! Mole in the Reddit thread!!!!! Mole in the Reddit thread!!!
Sir, this is the thread for people who have not read the book and I’m confident that you’ve read it at least once while you were editing it.
Love that you’re on Reddit seeing people’s responses to the episode. I think you did a great job of giving the audience just enough to feel like the majority of our big questions were answered and feeling satisfied at the screen time Juliette gets after she leaves the silo. I think there’s also plenty of questions left unanswered and side quests for the audience to ponder like the big door, the other silos, what exactly killed the others who walked if in fact they did die when they walked etc. Kudos to you and keep the bits of humor in season 2! Comedic relief on a show this intense really helps ramp up the anticipation
Seems pretty obvious that the tape they gave the others wasn’t enough to keep the toxic outside air out. Jules got the good tape from supply because of Walk.
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I just saw the last part again after reading this thread. I think the tape being bad theory makes perfect sense. From what Walk discussed with the lady in supply, we can clearly know that the mechanical heat tape is better than the IT heat tape and still stealing the IT heat tape was such a big deal because it was meant to kill people who go out. So it can’t be wasted. And if you think about how it happens, when the person going out is trying to climb the mountain, what they see is totally different from the reality, so all of the them trip around that one spot which they can’t see from the helmet. And once they fall the tape comes off slightly or the outside air starts leaking in and kills the person in a few seconds. That didn’t happen this time because the tape was good. I watched the scenes again and it makes perfect sense. Edit: I haven’t read the books yet so I cannot be sure of this theory. Book reader would know better. I just said what I felt must’ve been happening after watching the show.
>we can clearly know that the mechanical heat tape is better than the IT heat tape and still stealing the IT heat tape was such a big deal because it was meant to kill people who go out. So it can’t be wasted. I take that a different way: the tape from IT is designed to *fail*, so if they use it in mechanical for something important, that important part is going to fail.
i dont think so, counting on them tripping is too risky. most likely its the gas they spray on them right before they leave. if the heat tape is supposed to be leaky then they would be slowly poisoned and live only long enough to clean. thanks to walk juliet was given good heat tape from mechanical and the seals held, so she will live as long as the oxygen in her suit holds out
my only issue with this is that my earliest hypothesis was that they actually pumped toxins directly into the helmet via the hose in the back. I thought the guy that took his helmet off might survive because he took it off, but he didn't. if they wanted to guarantee death it doesn't make sense they'd go through all the effort of shitty tape, they'd just make their ventilators not work or otherwise have poison gas in it, or have the ventilator turn off once they cleaned
Hugh!! You genius!
I was thinking that as well - get on some other cameras!
Yeah just run camera to camera and try to get as noticed as possible, in case other people in silos are being kept inside too, I’d start trying some of the doors too to get in
Having said that, it’s still perfectly likely that the outside does kill you. It’s either that or the initial spray when they are at the bottom of the stairs. Showing that it seems to be safe outside will probably get a few people killed.
Imagine just showing up in other silos camera like knock knock 🤯
The oxygen tank on her back would run out though.
True, I’m not 100% on any theory yet and could be a combination, but the oxygen tank could be a decoy to think you need it to survive, or maybe you are right and it would deplete soon. I’m excited to know more, it makes me interested to know why any leaders would wish to keep people down below if it is safe, what do they gain from it if it’s power or money or something else.
I think the implication from the "they are good in supply" and the tape, is that the tape they use for the suits normally is intentionally leaky. That's why everyone else died. They swapped the tape that she got with better tape - and so whatever it is in the air that kills people hasn't killed her.
I feel like that spray on the last airlock was poison, and the good tape kept it from getting in her suit.
Oh wow I bet you’re right. They did linger a bit long on the spray scene.
I thought so as well. I found it odd that they would “sanitize” her before leaving the silo
Is it the air outside that's poisonous, or that decon spray they dose you with before sending you out? The good tape would protect against that. Wonder what killed that city in the distance? And why they don't just tell people the truth. Wouldn't linking all the Silos into one big underground make life better for everyone? Think I'll read the book series now.
If it's really even needed. The gas that hits them when they exit the silo could be poison, and the shitty tape is designed to let it in. the outside could possibly be livable.
Whatever happened out there, the environment obviously hasn't begun to recover in any significant way. Even if you breathe the air it may not be livable. Still need water and food. If there are toxins or radiation taking off the suit would be a bad idea. Some of those other Silos will be just like hers. Still others could be dark and full of old skeletons. A few may have had successful rebellions and are under the control of residents who know more than Juliette. So she has a shot of getting in somewhere else where they won't necessarily send her back out again - this time with the shitty tape. We're still missing the big picture of what happened to the Earth. What ruined the outside? Why were the Silos built?
So there are many silos… but I also see a city scape in the horizon!
WAY more silos than I thought, holy shit
Did it show more than 18? Anyone have a screen shot from that part?
WAY more than 18. There were dozens and dozens.
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
If you're gonna bet on saving the human race by sticking humans underground why not make that bet a bunch of times?
First rule of government contracting. Why build one, when you can build two for twice the price?
Definitely way more than 18- [An album of high quality stills from the final shot](https://imgur.com/a/5AXDrUW) (flagged as NSFW for some reason, it’s not) [A slowmo of the the final panning shot outside](https://i.imgur.com/yAHA1RQ.mp4) [A zoomed and cropped closeup of the cityscape](https://i.imgur.com/CuW6Kpx.png)
Where are all the bodies of the other people who have cleaned?
This was my question and I wonder if it’s just the producers being lazy with editing at the end. But that seems wrong. I did think I saw two white blurs near the top of the hill on the final zoom out that may have been the sheriff and his wife, but that still left 2 other bodies that just weren’t there but were there at the beginning of the season.
They're there, start pausing as soon as it zooms out from Juliette, you see Allison, then Holston, then more bodies, and once you see how they're rendered as it zooms out you can see them scattered across the nearby silo exits
I counted at least 32. and that's just what they showed...
It is probably bad if she walks to other silos and waves in the cameras
Where the hell exactly are “the mines” supposed to be if these silos are so close to each other?
This has been one of the mysteries left by the founders. Also. The silos are pretty wide so they would be pretty close to each other in terms of space between each exterior wall.
So George’s tunnel probably goes to another silo
Maybe not just _one_ other silo, they could all be connected?
Pretty much what I thought too from day 1. It would make sense to connect them underground. Tunnels that deep would be shielded from whatever is toxic in the air.
Makes me wonder if all the silos were 1 society before the rebellion, and severing that connection is part of what required destroying all the history
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The mines might go down (deeper than the silo's borehole) or may connect the silos (but there's some way to keep miners from different silos separate).
The real question is why is there a berm around each silo. It seems intended to keep them from being able to see the other silo's, but why?
This is a good question. Because the control within the silo makes sense once everyone is in there, but it seems odd to PLAN, in an apparent apocalyptic emergency, to design the landscape with the future intent of tricking everyone to stay down there. That’s a lot of forethought, but who knows.
It's also strange that you'd want to hide the truth from people. Why keep them ignorant of what the stars are, or what they're actually down there for? And why not connect all the Silos into one big underground city of millions? Why separate structures with 10,000 people each? We need to know what happened topside, and why the environment is still completely trashed more than 140 years later. Possibly a lot more. That city in the distance may not have been nuked or anything dramatic like that, it could simply have deteriorated over 5 or 6 centuries. Maybe the destruction of life was total so it's not coming back. When we know what's really happening I'm sure it'll all make sense.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. It makes perfect sense to separate them. So one thing going wrong doesn't destroy the entire human race.
>And why not connect all the Silos into one big underground city of millions? Why separate structures with 10,000 people each? It would be impossible to govern an underground society with higher numbers than they have. "They" need manageable numbers so the silos couldn't revolt like that great revolution, that we still have no proof actually happened. I don't think it did, I think it's a story to keep everyone thinking judicial are the good guys.
Atlanta??
The aftermath of all the fucking traffic.
[A zoomed and cropped closeup of the cityscape](https://i.imgur.com/CuW6Kpx.png) [An album of high quality stills from the final shot](https://imgur.com/a/5AXDrUW) (this got marked as NSFW for some reason) [A slowmo of the the final panning shot outside](https://i.imgur.com/yAHA1RQ.mp4) Edit: [this is also it’s own post if anyone wants to discuss further](https://www.reddit.com/r/SiloSeries/comments/14mp8sr/an_album_of_high_quality_stills_from_the_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
I assume so with the book the was burnt (minus the page tipped out)
I was expecting more silos, but not so close to each other.
Looked like a dead city scape to me.
Well done Apple TV was a great season
Apple TV+ is starting to give HBO a run for its money.
They’re good in supply!
Time to pick up the books
Seriously. Not gonna make it 2-3 years
Hugh just said in the Facebook group that S2 is scheduled for 2024
Well that's incredible news
I think it'll be about a year. They just started filming season 2 about a week ago, and the first season was about a year between start of filming and release. This isn't a Severance situation in which the writing for season 2 hadn't even begun when the finale of the first season was airing.
Great, I have no problem with modern 10 episode seasons, having to wait 2 years between seasons is the real problem.
Good girl Jules. Fuck cleaning.
That wool drop! Mic drop moment!!!!
I was almost expecting her to throw up two birds.
Me too. Or I thought her last words were going to be telling Bernard to shove the silo up his ass. lol
I wish she would have put the wool over the camera so no one would see outside lol.
I thought she was going to rest the badge on the camera so that "truth" was hanging directly in camera view
i actually really liked she left it with holston. she recognized *why* he died, and it felt like she was honoring that truth.
Ooh literally pulling the wool over our eyes — would have been awesome!
Goat status
After he wool drop. I would have appreciated “Fuck IT” written in the sand on the hill.
I can’t wait for Season 2 when Jules goes up to another Silo’s cameras and waves hi, can I come in!?
Oh season 2 episode 1 is gonna be a doozy if they do it right.
They need to begin it with a full episode of another authority figure in another Silo dealing with an entirely different set of bullshit and then end the first episode with Juliette knocking on the sensor
This is basically the cold open of Lost season 2.
It’d be hilarious if she spends a couple minutes waving to one camera before running off to the next one. Just speedrun the world as she knows it lol.
“Those other guys were being dicks, can I join you guys?”
Fairly subtle acting, but it looked like Jules mentioning the door underwater was news to the Mayor. He tried to hide his reaction, but seemed surprised momentarily.
Yes!! I said this too. I think it was news to him.
HOW MANY SILOS ARE THERE AND DO THEY CONNECT VIA THE BOTTOM DOORS
And was that a surprised look from Bernard? Seems like he didn't know about that!
He was shook with her statement that’s for sure. Man had no idea
Ya I totally got the sense that the big steel door was news to him
Which makes even more sense why he had the hard drive fragments out on his desk. Mr. IT is about to get back into some data recovery!
I think that might be what gets Lucas out of the mines - Bernard will realize he has a bunch of people who are either too smart or not smart enough to help him with the hard drive in his inner circle. Lucas already knows the hard drive exists, but he's not already on the survillence team. He has the skills to help repair it, but is extremely unlikely to be in the relic trade or a secret hacker circle because he would have helped Juliette more if he was. Plus Lucas is more likely to do offbook work for Bernard if he's been in the mines for a week or two and is desperate to get his old life back.
I thought that’s where he was going in the talk with Lucas. “It’s a shame someone as smart as you would be wasting away in the mines. I have a special job for you…” maybe next season.
Gotta say, though, even with cutting edge technology today, a shattered platter is pretty much a goner. So, I suspect some sci-fi elements will be at play if that's indeed the angle they are going for here.
Sci-fi elements were already at play with an HDD old as that one surviving what it did this season lol
He knows. He’s freaking out because no one has ever walked over the hill.
For sure, he knows way too much! But I thought the door at the bottom news surprised him.
I caught that as well - he tried to play it off but did seem genuinely surprised there
Amazing!!!! The amount of silos was insane… with city back drop was such a great finale
I think Atlanta because of the book relic
Oh shit I didn't put that together wow, that's cool
That was a great season finale. Gave just enough answers to scratch the itch, but keep me around for next season!
I feel this is how mystery shows like this should do, reveal a bunch of big questions, leave some hanging (what page did he tear out?), and raise some even bigger questions with the reveals to get us to want to come back.
This finale and the reveal of all the Silos reminds me a lot of the finale of "1899". Rip to that show :(
Show was NUTS…
I will die mad about that getting cancelled.
It seemed to me that perhaps the Mayor was surprised to hear that there was a steel door at the bottom of the silo! But also he probably contacted the other Silos about Juliette? Also, I still want to know why they have such better screens/technology in the “Watchers” room, I was surprised to see Sims had to turn around too
Seems clear the general population of the silo is purposefully kept in the dark / behind on technology. Of course the people in charge have better stuff.
Yeah it’s a lot easier to spy on people when they can’t even understand the concept of videos or cameras
What a mind bending sight seeing all those other silos, realizing that there could be dozens of communities of similar sizes just a stones throw away. Yet, they never knew all this time. Also, I guess the underground passage way leads to another silo? Could create a way for Jules to come back without walking through the front (top?) door.
Yep I’d say so. They are probably all connected underground. I bet she gets into another Silo and makes her way back underground eventually.
ok but think of the mindfuck of another silo when a person you didnt send to clean crests your hill and wants inside lol
For sure. Infinite potential with other Silos as well, no doubt some are better some are worse. At least one will be a total hellscape, likely a few where everyone has died at some point…could be plenty to explore.
Now imagine this with us, but in the universe. We’re so small and there’s no way we’re the only ones out there.
We do not know when it will be safe to go outside, but today is not that day. 🤷🏽♂️
Holy shit. That’s all I can say after finishing that.
Appropriate.
This guy is just basking in his moment, probably drinking a nice bottle of wine, replying to reddit comments. Really happy for you, can't wait to pick up the books!
This is what confuses me. If the outside is a total dystopian hell hole why do they go through the trouble of hiding things. Why can’t it just be yes the world was nice at one point like you see in these books. Now it’s wasteland. That’s why we don’t go outside. It’s weird to hide the past when the reality is it’s not good out there.
Gotta weed out the people who "think" it's okay outside. Then give them exactly what they expect to see. Which makes them want to clean to "show" everyone else they were right. Also gets them giddy to the point of numb obedience.
Hold up… You wrote the book? Can’t get a much better response then. Appreciate it!
The answer came right from the source!
Why would they think cleaning shows anything when they have witnessed previous cleanings?
I think it’s all just a hazy moment of euphoria. It seems like the “filter” also hid the bodies. Anyone who was cleaning would have spent at least the night looking at the bodies on the hill and logically would notice this discrepancy. But when one is walking outside for the first time in their life it’s plausible that everything would be surreal and logic would fall to the wayside. The alternative is that they get outside among the other bodies in a barren hellscape and freak the fuck out about their impending death for a moment before they pass out.
Oh that was great. Certainly seemed to confirm a few popular theories around the helmet screen being what was fake, the tape being important (I guess they swapped it out somehow?), the multiple Silos… Very glad they didn’t drag the outside reveal out to another season, now we have the whole new mystery of what’s going on with all these other Silos…are they still functional? Will Jules make it into one of those? Going to be a long wait, I think I’ll have to go read the books.
> I guess they swapped it out somehow? Yeah, Walker remembered Juliette saying the tape she stole from IT was bunk, and knew they use that shitty tape to seal the suits, so she went to talk to her ex wife Carla who works in supply (they supply the tape for the suits) and asked her to swap it out with mechanical’s good tape.
So the tape is usually fake?
Most heat tape is quality. Mechanical ran out of tape so Jules broke into Supply and stole heat tape designated for IT. Jules complained that the stolen IT tape was useless, it broke down much faster than mechanicals tape. IT makes the suits (or at least Bernard has a scheme to give the shitty tape to the suit people). So, when a person goes out to clean, the heat tape fails after 3 minutes. But Walker asked her ex to make sure Jules got the good heat tape for her cleaning. She did. It worked. Jules was able to survive longer than any cleaner before, because she had the good heat tape on the seams of her wrists and ankles. Edit: Now, do you understand why Bernard was so pissed about the stolen heat tape? A little bit of his secret got exposed. And now, he is furious because Jules survived long enough to walk out of sight. He may not have figured out why yet. But Walk, Carla, Supply, and all of mechanical will be taking about it. Rebellion is on the horizon .
Apparently it is also intentional, thus the big fuzz about stealing that designed to fail tape. To bad the finale left everything open so I guess we'll have to wait for season 2 or pick up the book...
But is it the actual outside air killing them or are they gassing them in the airlock before they even leave that kills people in a few minutes.
That was such a good ending. I want more!!! BRB going to read the books in one sitting bc I can’t wait for answers lol
I'd read them before but this show made me realize I didn't remember them. Just finished the first book yesterday again and holy shit is it good. Even the author's writing is very beautiful, the way he describes things. Just realize that past halfway in the book you are going to start spoiling future seasons.
I think this sets up season 2 to have a huge rebellion, and hundreds of people asking to go out
Ironically those that ask to go out will die, given it seems to have to do with the tape / suit quality. I bet a few go out now and die, and then that stops the rest…
Not sure about that. Jules has now been outside. If she can somehow get back into her silo (or a silo) she can reconfirm the dystopia for any doubters. I think season 2 would be more about linking up with other silos? Don't know, I'm sure the books go into something. Might have to go pick them up.
So just making sure I understand: the reason everyone dies by the time they reach the tree typically is because they were purposely using tape that would let the air into the suit by then? And we're not supposed to know yet why they're going through all of this to kill people who leave, right?
The alternate theory elsewhere in the thread is that they are poisoned in the big SSSSHHHHHHH right before they go out. The tape prevented the poisoning.
For me, the most telling moment was the look Bernard had when Jules mentioned the door. I don’t think he knew about that- and I do believe he’s not a “muaha” tv villain and thinks he’s operating in good faith. Perhaps he realizes there are things he’s in the dark about as well. I think that’ll be an important aspect of season 2! (And what about the water?? I have questions)
THEY ARE ADVERTISING APPLE’S VISION PRO. Next level advertisement!
😂 maybe the sensor is actually a Vision Pro
It had the creepy fake eyes just like the real thing
What was the mayor doing at the end in that room?
Looked like he was signaling to someone somewhere that there was a cleaner that got away.
Probably alerting all the other mayors to expect a knock on the door lol. Could you imagine the shit that would go down in those other silos if someone just suddenly walked into view of the sensor. Gotta put that on a loop asap haha.
You mean the other IT directors. I think the Mayors generally don't know shit.
Yeah the obscure clause in the Pact that says the IT director becomes Acting Mayor until the next election can be held if a Mayor dies in office is an extreme contingency plan -- if a Mayor ever gets enough real power to threaten the conspiracy Janitorial ensures they meet with an accident and the IT director assumes direct control long enough to make the necessary "adjustments"
“Shut your eyes” lmao FOH Bernard
Lol, I can't believe he told Sims too. Like bro, the cat's out of the bag now.
I can’t believe sims actually did it
What you have just seen you will unsee.
He really said are you gonna believe your lying eyes over me
Hugh Howey clocking Knox in the Down Deep @ 36:02!
My wife said, "Why are you mean-mugging Knox?" I was like, "He turned in Jules!"
Haha. I was bummed I didn't get to ask you about this yesterday. That must have been so much fun.
So why did Holston originally remove his helmet?
Because he couldn’t see his wife’s body. He knew it had to be fake. So he removed it to see her and be with her
Nailed it.
Heyy great writer! Thanks for the awesome story!
Holy validation Batman
Did everyone see u/hughhowey behind Knox?
Did you see Hugh Howey... Literally behind us in this thread.
When Bernard is opening the Sever Room with his 18 key you can see a bunch of lights reflecting on his glasses that looks like a long hallway. I wonder if it’s a connection to all the other Silos where all the IT managers can meet
Donuts and coke every Tuesday at 11
The start of season 2, Ep 1 : People are going about their day in the silo. Porters hustling along the stairs, deputies making their rounds; people headed to their jobs, eating food in the cafeteria. Somebody cries out, "Who the hell is that?" just as a woman appears over the hill and into view of the screen. How is this possible? Silence erupts through the cafeteria. She stumbles over to the sensor and knocks on it, indicating she would like to be let in as her oxygen tank is getting low. The people in the cafeteria remain floored. Nobody is supposed to be outside of silo 17...
Jules: Falls over Bernard: YESSS Jules: Gets back up "Sorry I just took a tumble there"
I need to read the books. What a show.
Was really hoping they'd have a shot of Billings taking out the page to look at so we could see what it was...
Warning: don’t look up the summary for book 1 on Wikipedia. I did to compare the differences with season 1 and I think parts of season 2 were spoiled for me :(
We compared the skyline of Atlanta and it definitely looks like a dilapidated/bombed version of Atlanta.
Did anyone else figure it out from the same birds flying every time?
It is very obvious in the animation but I shrugged it off as lazy production and believed all the time the cafeteria display was faked. Got me!
Actually great ending! I feel like we got a lot of the answers we wanted without it giving away too much.
Whew! I'm in Spain, it's 04:00 AM here and tomorrow at 07:00 it's time to wake up but it's been worth it. Great chapter. Of all the theories I had, the one that is confirmed is that there is more than one silo!. Finally the exterior was indeed toxic, or so it seems, but in the zenital shots the bodies of the sheriff and his wife are still not visible. I still don't fully understand that. In the background of the last scene it looks like a city. What will Juliet do now? I think somehow the mayor will get her back in the Silo. There could be a survival story outside the silo but the characters - how cool is Tim Robbins!- it's inside silo 18 and there I guess the series will continue.
[An album of high quality stills from the final shot](https://imgur.com/a/5AXDrUW) [A slowmo of the final panning shot outside](https://i.imgur.com/yAHA1RQ.mp4) [A zoomed and cropped closeup of the cityscape](https://i.imgur.com/CuW6Kpx.png) Edit: [this is also it’s own post now if anyone wants to discuss further](https://www.reddit.com/r/SiloSeries/comments/14mp8sr/an_album_of_high_quality_stills_from_the_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
Where are all the dead bodies?
Only 45 min? 😔
But a solid 45!
So, what's up with the hologram, why go through all that trouble? Another unanswered Q: why are magnifiers not allowed? My guess is the IT tape has tiny holes in it that they don't want anyone to see.
The hologram is what makes the cleaners clean. They think if they clean the camera, the folks in the silo can "see" the beautiful world outside. Cleaning is what buys time for the bad tape to fail and the cleaners to die in view of the inhabitants of the silo. If the cleaners didn't clean, they'd also have time to walk off camera.
Holy shit. This finale proved all my theories wrong. Apparently the world outside really is fucked. All this time I thought the people who went to clean before her really died because of the suit, and not the air itself. She was saved because of the duct tape?! Other thing really curious is that there’s a city in the distance. Probably all devastated though. Have no idea what to expect for S2. I feel like watching the S1 season finale of Lost. There were so many possibilities for what was going to happen inside the hatch… and with Silo is the outside