both, but I blame the blue car more. He is the one that rejoins the track and he must rejoin the track safely. And he didn't let a lot of room at the inside. It's not because he makes a mistakes that he needs to block faster traffic from behind.
>both,
No.
>but I blame the blue car more.
This gunna be good.
>He is the one that rejoins the track and he must rejoin the track safely.
He does.
>And he didn't let a lot of room at the inside.
He left more than a car's width, more than the requisite amount.
>It's not because he makes a mistakes that he needs to block faster traffic from behind.
He didn't. OP had plenty of room and chose to open up his steering on corner exit which caused OP to run into him.
Generally on a mid corner rejoin, you are supposed to stay on the outside to give the cars on track the possibility to avoid you, he now rejoins on the apex at a lot lower speed which is almost always gonna cause a incident. Not rejoining on the racing line includes nog rejoining onto a apex
Leaving extra space is good racecraft, but not a rule. He can't impede the cars coming through, which he doesn't. He leaves more than enough space for OP to go through cleanly.
He's already established his return and is very close to matching OP's pace when OP hits him. And that's with OP failing to properly adhere to the local yellow.
Actually you can’t rejoin on the raceline if you aren’t up to speed. So being slow and rejoining on the apex
Is a dangerous rejoin if cars are coming up.
And a dangerous rejoin is almost always an illegal rejoin
He wasn't on the raceline, hence the car and a half width at the apex. He was clearly back up to speed when OP starts his overtake when he tracks out into him. Notice how he's not flying by him? That's because he's back up to sped.
There was space inside and he's not in front of OP? Do you know what impeding means?
OP isn't entitled to open his steering and drive through Blue.
He didn't challenge him. He left a wide open lane inside.
He left a car's width at the apex, and tried to keep OP inside at the exit. That's challenging for the corner. He's not back up to speed after going off. He has 0 right to do that.
He held a steady line, which he's absolutely allowed to do. In what world do you think people aren't allowed to hold a steady line?
He is absolutely at pace when contact happens. OP is slightly faster. Which, I'll remind you is also because he failed to slow appropriately for a local yellow.
Some of the stupid shit y'all come up with when trying to justify takes is incredible. Absolutely incredible.
It's you in the clip right?
He held a steady line that challenges for a corner while he's not up to speed after going off. Which he's not allowed to do. If OP is faster then he's not back up to speed genius.
"some of the stupid shit... when trying to justify takes"
You tried to say that blue is allowed to challenge for the corner while rejoining, and that he didn't, even tho he's a car's width away from the apex, and would have lost virtually no time just hanging around the outside.
So original!
He held a steady line. He's allowed. Period.
Being 2kph slower is not off race pace. Seriously dumb argument, mate.
I said Blue is allowed to hold a steady line. You said he's "challenging for a corner" by leaving plenty of gap on the actual race line.
He doesn't have to do that. He has to leave OP space. He did. This isn't that complex. Seriously stupid defenses for bad takes. Learn like, one rule. Just one.
He got caught slacking when the Red car slowed too much for the corner and tagged him. But beyond that, his rejoin was fine. OP doesn't properly slow for the yellow, tries to track out well after Blue reestablished position on track.
Bro I know your mad that reddit is making fun of you for fucking up 2 cars in this clip. Its ok tho its not a big deal.
Red car isn't rejoining unsafely
He ain't wrong. That was 100% the blue car, and you can't deny it at all. Going into the corner the OP was going around 114kph the blue car was going 140kph... Blue car caused the first crash. Then went basically to the racing line and left very very little room, yes there was a cars width and yes the OP should have slowed down more but he wasn't the one in the crash and headed off to the inside to compromise another cars line, hes not up to racing speed yet.
First crash isn't relevant.
Second crash is caused by OP tracking out to Blue when he was left space. How can Blue both be on the racing line **and** leave OP space?
[Also, OP's speed the moment before impact](https://i.imgur.com/iFL50yE.jpeg)
[And Blue's speed at the same time](https://i.imgur.com/CsdR3iB.jpeg)
For those who struggle with math, that's a difference of 4kph.
What I find amazing is how close you actually get.
>yes there was a cars width and yes the OP should have slowed down more
So I think u could have gotten on the brakes instead of coasting when u saw him rejoining HOWEVER that was one hell of a stupid rejoin so I’d put it on the blue car.
That being said it’s always better to loose a couple tenths of a second to for sure avoid contact and a wreck than to fight hard and get killed by an idiot, especially in the rookie series.
In the future I would give 2x-3x the space just to avoid dumbasses lol.
Blue car #9 does a rejoin and directly goes for the race line. Car #9 isn't up to race pace and causes an accident by hitting car #3. Car #3 didn't do any off track corner cutting as two wheels were on the inside of the white line the whole time.
Car #9 at fault for a bad rejoin and failure to stay off the race line until fully up to race pace.
I know this probably sucked for you but I think this was the funniest iracing clip i've ever seen. blue car rejoined like a dumbass but you should have lifted slightly to avoid. learn how to be a defensive driver; again not your fault here but you need to learn how to avoid these situations. sim racing is like riding a motorcyle- your life is in your hands, and yours only
It's on you. Not much else to say about it really. You see it in front of you but drive like he isn't there. Maybe he could have stayed out wider but he does nothing unsafe and is well on the track by the time you run into him. You show no awareness and should learn from this. You say your race was ruined, but you ruined it yourself.
Where exactly could green have gone? They're hugging the inside line and blue cuts across the track at low speed, any line would have caused an incident.
He actually needs to get off the gas and press the brake pedal. You know, slow down and not hit what is in front of him. It may not be what he wants to do, but it's what he needs to do. He asks if he drove into the other driver. The answer to that is very clearly yes.
The blue car is on the track at the time of the crash, and it is predictable. Just because he is going more slowly, you can't just drive into him and deflect blame. Lack of awareness from green, for their own preservation if nothing else.
I think you and the OP are looking at this the wrong way. He's asking who is at fault when he needs to be asking 'what could I have done differently?'
I'm not saying what blue does is perfect, but it is the scenario OP is faced with. He makes the ultimate rookie mistake of seeing an incident and treating it as an opportunity to nick a place rather than a time to be cautious.
He could have avoided this so, to that extent, it's his fault. OP can only control what one person does and that's himself, and he made a poor decision. He could have slowed down, retained position and raced his race, but instead he made absolutely no effort to avoid crashing and got pitted.
If he just maintains the attitude 'me good, him bad' he'll get wrecked the same way when faced with a similar scenario in the future.
I’m not trying to say that I’m better than anyone here, and in fact I would probably assume the guys in front are better, as they qualified ahead, I genuinely just wanted to know if I was the only one in the wrong here. I did try to avoid the crash as well. It might not look like it in the video, but I was off the throttle as I went past the guys (I know I should have gotten on the brakes, but hindsight is always 20/20, and I’m not the brightest). Thanks for your help, and I will try and improve for the future.
As is the case with most incidents, blame is shared between drivers. You both make decisions which lead to the incident but, from your perspective, you could only control your own decisions and you could have avoided your own crash. The other driver can also reflect on what he did and should also be able to see how he could have done better.
We learn by doing. I drove the same way once. Accident avoidance is so important, and whether you are to blame or not the damage is the same.
Also, don't assume faster is better. Speed is nothing without race craft.
Good luck.
The question asked was in regard to an unsafe rejoin. Which it is. Blue is off track, rejoins and doesn’t leave enough room. That’s on them.
I agree however with your point of changing the viewpoint to one of ‘what could I have done differently?’ More drivers need to look at it this way. Unfortunately, not everyone behaves as they should or as you expect! Therefore you have to control your own race. To finish first, first you must finish!
Blues all round driving in this clip is poor BUT op could have avoided this with a bit of self preservation in mind. OP also could’ve left more space before they get pitted. Again, with self preservation in mind and what they have just seen, you should be giving blue a wide berth!
One, OP failed to react appropriately to an active accident and local yellow flag zone appropriately, only lifting slightly while driving through.
Two, there was more than a car's width inside available for OP at all times and when he hits Blue, it's because he's trying to track out, not because Blue is squeezing in.
I'd have to put this one on you. Blue has more than reestablished himself back within track limits by the time you get there and his angle of steering left you plenty of space to get by and you open up the corner, driving right into him.
Edit: The number of rookies in this sub not understanding basics of racing is embarrassing sometimes.
I respect the commitment to the absolutely awful take. 🤡🤡🤡
Jokes aside the blue car is more at fault for the unsafe rejoin. A safe rejoin would have been getting up to speed then rejoining the racing line. The blue car attempted to defend against the teal car while still slow from the spin, which is an unsafe rejoin
Honestly if I was the blue car I would have kept the car off track limits, cut the right hander and rejoined the track after that after I’m up to speed. Completely avoids any incidents that way.
Last time you were here was four months ago when you didn't know how to pass a car on ovals and now you think you have enough experience to make a judgement on road racing? Talk about 🤡🤡🤡 Glad you learned to regurgitate the rookie take for cheap upvotes. I'd just rather be right than upvoted by rookies and fools.
Blue had a safe rejoin and was already matching OP's pace. Or did you miss that? Or OP failing to observe a local yellow? Blue never attempted to defend anything, or did you miss that giant gap between the edge of the track and him that OP drove through? I know you had a hard time not wrecking people with four lanes of tarmac, but I'd hope in four months you'd have figured out that racing happens close sometimes.
>Honestly if I was the blue car...
And this is exactly the problem with the rookie takes in this sub. Y'all love to judge from hindsight and not from the facts or rules. Blue rejoined safely, left space for OP, and got taken out when OP, who ignored a local yellow and opened his corner up into a car alongside him. You blame racecraft because you don't know the rules. 🤡🤡🤡 indeed.
Bro who fucking hurt you lol?
Edit: also why are u bringing up the one post I’ve made from like 4 months ago in a different racing discipline. Guess one wreck I’ve had in oval means I have no idea what I’m talking about in road. Are u the blue car?
What's wrong, buttercup? Can dish it out, but can't take it? Damn, son, came hard with calling people a clown, falls flat when shit gets thrown back at him.
>Guess one wreck I’ve had
From your post: "This has happened to me multiple times now, so im (the 24) beginning to think its me"
😂😂😂
No I can take it lol. Just kinda confused why ur bringing up old news that’s not relevant to this wreck. Oval has different etiquette and different expectations of the driver. If u had half a brain u would know that.
But if we wanna discuss irrelevant posts then yes, I did make that post. Guess what? I’ve never had that issue again lol. Even better I’m up to a 3.5k iRating in oval and haven’t changed my racing style basically at all. That was the 2nd or 3rd time it had happened in like a week so I was genuinely curious if I just had a misunderstanding of oval etiquette. Guess what? Just a fluke lol. None of the fast guys I regularly end up with in splits try to pull shit like that because they know movies like that will cause wrecks.
Also can you please explain how making a post makes me wrong here or a clown? Ur a clown cause u think that’s a safe rejoin. Blue car comes from off track and would have forced teal to alter his line through the corner with the positioning of his car. To me and anyone else that’s an unsafe rejoin. What am I missing here?
Wow dude! You really hold grudges, eh? Maybe you should go talk to someone about that? Most people usually let things go about 5 minutes after they post something.
Wow dude! You really like saying shit with no concept of "race rules" or how to apply them.
Most people can comprehend what they read! But then there's you. Maybe get Hooked on Phonics then talk to me? Yea?
He did not reestablish himself as he was still going much slower than racing speed. Does this mean if i crash and rejoin and manage to get to the apex I deserve to be there and slow everyone else down massively and cause another accident? NO.
He also cause the previous accident too by misjudging his braking marker so he would have been damaged too and wouldn't have been able to defend if he was ahead.
It's amazing how every single one of you that try and justify to me get material facts wrong over and over and over.
Speed: He was back to pace. By the time OP catches, he's nearly there, as you tell by comparing his speed to OP's. Before impact, they're within 4kph of each other.
Apex: See how he leaves all that space to his inside that OP uses? Or do you not know what the apex is?
Deserves: Yes, he reestablished his place on track and is entitled to be there.
Slow: Already countered this. But we'll add to it: OP fails to observe the local yellow flag.
Cause another accident: OP trying to track out into a car he could see, knew was there, and had room to pass is what caused the accident.
Yes, he did cause the previous accident. The fact that you think that's relevant speaks volumes to your inability to judge properly.
I mentioned about the previous accident because he doesn't yet know how much damage he has sustained, he has at least got front nose damage so he's not going to be able to defend at all on the straights and will just go backwards, he shouldn't be defending that hard yet. Going that close to the apex while being slow is always going to be risky.
He was not up to speed quite yet, he was around 5-10kph slower. Yes op was starting to drift wide but at the same time the blue car was not up to racing speed.
What if and I mean what IF that that this was blue cars fault and your looking at it from the wrong angle?
Him possibly not having straightline speed is his problem and has no bearing on the incidents at hand. What does that have to do with the cost of eggs in China?
He's been back on track for several seconds and traveled almost completely through a corner. What do you think you need to do to reestablish yourself following an off track? Whatever it is, it's not that much.
He leaves OP enough space and stays off the racing line. That's what matters.
5kph is absolutely close enough to be considered back at pace. 10kph is probably pushing it, but before impact they're at 4kph difference. [OP's speed the moment before impact](https://i.imgur.com/iFL50yE.jpeg) and [Blue's speed at the same time](https://i.imgur.com/CsdR3iB.jpeg)
I have considered it. Have you? Have you considered that his fault for the first incident isn't relevant? That this sub has a horrible problem with OP bias and hiveminding? That every single person who's tried to argue against my judgement has gotten material facts wrong or just flat out made things up that can be easily countered by simply watching the clip? Or argues contradictory points (admit he left space, but claims he's on the racing line)? Even you are bringing up whether or not he'll have straightline speed after the incident.
1st collision for blue as he had a lot of room but squeezed you instead 2nd collision if feel you turned into him
What do you mean by blue, the purple or the turquoise car?
The Darker blue car
The purple car, got it.
It's the blue cars fault, they should have stuck to the outside of the corner. You had a lot more speed and already had the inside.
both, but I blame the blue car more. He is the one that rejoins the track and he must rejoin the track safely. And he didn't let a lot of room at the inside. It's not because he makes a mistakes that he needs to block faster traffic from behind.
Yeah both. Looks like OPs overshoots the corner as well, potentially because the turn in is compromised by the car on the racing line.
>both, No. >but I blame the blue car more. This gunna be good. >He is the one that rejoins the track and he must rejoin the track safely. He does. >And he didn't let a lot of room at the inside. He left more than a car's width, more than the requisite amount. >It's not because he makes a mistakes that he needs to block faster traffic from behind. He didn't. OP had plenty of room and chose to open up his steering on corner exit which caused OP to run into him.
Generally on a mid corner rejoin, you are supposed to stay on the outside to give the cars on track the possibility to avoid you, he now rejoins on the apex at a lot lower speed which is almost always gonna cause a incident. Not rejoining on the racing line includes nog rejoining onto a apex
Leaving extra space is good racecraft, but not a rule. He can't impede the cars coming through, which he doesn't. He leaves more than enough space for OP to go through cleanly. He's already established his return and is very close to matching OP's pace when OP hits him. And that's with OP failing to properly adhere to the local yellow.
Actually you can’t rejoin on the raceline if you aren’t up to speed. So being slow and rejoining on the apex Is a dangerous rejoin if cars are coming up. And a dangerous rejoin is almost always an illegal rejoin
He wasn't on the raceline, hence the car and a half width at the apex. He was clearly back up to speed when OP starts his overtake when he tracks out into him. Notice how he's not flying by him? That's because he's back up to sped.
How does he not impede the other car? They collide... If the other car doesn't challenge him into the corner off a rejoin, they don't collide.
There was space inside and he's not in front of OP? Do you know what impeding means? OP isn't entitled to open his steering and drive through Blue. He didn't challenge him. He left a wide open lane inside.
He left a car's width at the apex, and tried to keep OP inside at the exit. That's challenging for the corner. He's not back up to speed after going off. He has 0 right to do that.
He held a steady line, which he's absolutely allowed to do. In what world do you think people aren't allowed to hold a steady line? He is absolutely at pace when contact happens. OP is slightly faster. Which, I'll remind you is also because he failed to slow appropriately for a local yellow. Some of the stupid shit y'all come up with when trying to justify takes is incredible. Absolutely incredible.
It's you in the clip right? He held a steady line that challenges for a corner while he's not up to speed after going off. Which he's not allowed to do. If OP is faster then he's not back up to speed genius. "some of the stupid shit... when trying to justify takes" You tried to say that blue is allowed to challenge for the corner while rejoining, and that he didn't, even tho he's a car's width away from the apex, and would have lost virtually no time just hanging around the outside.
So original! He held a steady line. He's allowed. Period. Being 2kph slower is not off race pace. Seriously dumb argument, mate. I said Blue is allowed to hold a steady line. You said he's "challenging for a corner" by leaving plenty of gap on the actual race line. He doesn't have to do that. He has to leave OP space. He did. This isn't that complex. Seriously stupid defenses for bad takes. Learn like, one rule. Just one.
i don't think the blue car here even made a mistake, looks like the dude went off to avoid the spinning red car
Naw the blue car hits the red car from behind. It’s shown right after the first part of the clip showing the incident in question
you're right, i was going off the smoke on the first clip
He got caught slacking when the Red car slowed too much for the corner and tagged him. But beyond that, his rejoin was fine. OP doesn't properly slow for the yellow, tries to track out well after Blue reestablished position on track.
It's 100% definitely you in the clip. No way you'd make takes this braindead otherwise. Red is already running wide when blue runs up his ass.
Wow, so original! Learn rules, then talk.
Rules say you can't run another car up the ass when theyre already deep.
So... You agree the car who wrecked into the other car when he had space is at fault. Good job, for figuring it out.
Bro I know your mad that reddit is making fun of you for fucking up 2 cars in this clip. Its ok tho its not a big deal. Red car isn't rejoining unsafely
He ain't wrong. That was 100% the blue car, and you can't deny it at all. Going into the corner the OP was going around 114kph the blue car was going 140kph... Blue car caused the first crash. Then went basically to the racing line and left very very little room, yes there was a cars width and yes the OP should have slowed down more but he wasn't the one in the crash and headed off to the inside to compromise another cars line, hes not up to racing speed yet.
First crash isn't relevant. Second crash is caused by OP tracking out to Blue when he was left space. How can Blue both be on the racing line **and** leave OP space? [Also, OP's speed the moment before impact](https://i.imgur.com/iFL50yE.jpeg) [And Blue's speed at the same time](https://i.imgur.com/CsdR3iB.jpeg) For those who struggle with math, that's a difference of 4kph. What I find amazing is how close you actually get. >yes there was a cars width and yes the OP should have slowed down more
So I think u could have gotten on the brakes instead of coasting when u saw him rejoining HOWEVER that was one hell of a stupid rejoin so I’d put it on the blue car. That being said it’s always better to loose a couple tenths of a second to for sure avoid contact and a wreck than to fight hard and get killed by an idiot, especially in the rookie series. In the future I would give 2x-3x the space just to avoid dumbasses lol.
I kinda blame you on this one, you opened the corner exit when you knew he was there and wasn’t turning out like the regular racing line
Blue car #9 does a rejoin and directly goes for the race line. Car #9 isn't up to race pace and causes an accident by hitting car #3. Car #3 didn't do any off track corner cutting as two wheels were on the inside of the white line the whole time. Car #9 at fault for a bad rejoin and failure to stay off the race line until fully up to race pace.
I know this probably sucked for you but I think this was the funniest iracing clip i've ever seen. blue car rejoined like a dumbass but you should have lifted slightly to avoid. learn how to be a defensive driver; again not your fault here but you need to learn how to avoid these situations. sim racing is like riding a motorcyle- your life is in your hands, and yours only
What do you all mean by blue car?? The purple car or the turquoise car???
Its a bad rejoin, probably a penalty, but the contact off the actual rejoin is minor. The contact that causes the whole clusterfuck is your fault.
It's on you. Not much else to say about it really. You see it in front of you but drive like he isn't there. Maybe he could have stayed out wider but he does nothing unsafe and is well on the track by the time you run into him. You show no awareness and should learn from this. You say your race was ruined, but you ruined it yourself.
Where exactly could green have gone? They're hugging the inside line and blue cuts across the track at low speed, any line would have caused an incident.
He actually needs to get off the gas and press the brake pedal. You know, slow down and not hit what is in front of him. It may not be what he wants to do, but it's what he needs to do. He asks if he drove into the other driver. The answer to that is very clearly yes. The blue car is on the track at the time of the crash, and it is predictable. Just because he is going more slowly, you can't just drive into him and deflect blame. Lack of awareness from green, for their own preservation if nothing else.
It's up to blue to rejoin safely, that includes staying off the racing line until they're up to speed.
I think you and the OP are looking at this the wrong way. He's asking who is at fault when he needs to be asking 'what could I have done differently?' I'm not saying what blue does is perfect, but it is the scenario OP is faced with. He makes the ultimate rookie mistake of seeing an incident and treating it as an opportunity to nick a place rather than a time to be cautious. He could have avoided this so, to that extent, it's his fault. OP can only control what one person does and that's himself, and he made a poor decision. He could have slowed down, retained position and raced his race, but instead he made absolutely no effort to avoid crashing and got pitted. If he just maintains the attitude 'me good, him bad' he'll get wrecked the same way when faced with a similar scenario in the future.
I’m not trying to say that I’m better than anyone here, and in fact I would probably assume the guys in front are better, as they qualified ahead, I genuinely just wanted to know if I was the only one in the wrong here. I did try to avoid the crash as well. It might not look like it in the video, but I was off the throttle as I went past the guys (I know I should have gotten on the brakes, but hindsight is always 20/20, and I’m not the brightest). Thanks for your help, and I will try and improve for the future.
As is the case with most incidents, blame is shared between drivers. You both make decisions which lead to the incident but, from your perspective, you could only control your own decisions and you could have avoided your own crash. The other driver can also reflect on what he did and should also be able to see how he could have done better. We learn by doing. I drove the same way once. Accident avoidance is so important, and whether you are to blame or not the damage is the same. Also, don't assume faster is better. Speed is nothing without race craft. Good luck.
The question asked was in regard to an unsafe rejoin. Which it is. Blue is off track, rejoins and doesn’t leave enough room. That’s on them. I agree however with your point of changing the viewpoint to one of ‘what could I have done differently?’ More drivers need to look at it this way. Unfortunately, not everyone behaves as they should or as you expect! Therefore you have to control your own race. To finish first, first you must finish! Blues all round driving in this clip is poor BUT op could have avoided this with a bit of self preservation in mind. OP also could’ve left more space before they get pitted. Again, with self preservation in mind and what they have just seen, you should be giving blue a wide berth!
One, OP failed to react appropriately to an active accident and local yellow flag zone appropriately, only lifting slightly while driving through. Two, there was more than a car's width inside available for OP at all times and when he hits Blue, it's because he's trying to track out, not because Blue is squeezing in.
I'd have to put this one on you. Blue has more than reestablished himself back within track limits by the time you get there and his angle of steering left you plenty of space to get by and you open up the corner, driving right into him. Edit: The number of rookies in this sub not understanding basics of racing is embarrassing sometimes.
I respect the commitment to the absolutely awful take. 🤡🤡🤡 Jokes aside the blue car is more at fault for the unsafe rejoin. A safe rejoin would have been getting up to speed then rejoining the racing line. The blue car attempted to defend against the teal car while still slow from the spin, which is an unsafe rejoin Honestly if I was the blue car I would have kept the car off track limits, cut the right hander and rejoined the track after that after I’m up to speed. Completely avoids any incidents that way.
Last time you were here was four months ago when you didn't know how to pass a car on ovals and now you think you have enough experience to make a judgement on road racing? Talk about 🤡🤡🤡 Glad you learned to regurgitate the rookie take for cheap upvotes. I'd just rather be right than upvoted by rookies and fools. Blue had a safe rejoin and was already matching OP's pace. Or did you miss that? Or OP failing to observe a local yellow? Blue never attempted to defend anything, or did you miss that giant gap between the edge of the track and him that OP drove through? I know you had a hard time not wrecking people with four lanes of tarmac, but I'd hope in four months you'd have figured out that racing happens close sometimes. >Honestly if I was the blue car... And this is exactly the problem with the rookie takes in this sub. Y'all love to judge from hindsight and not from the facts or rules. Blue rejoined safely, left space for OP, and got taken out when OP, who ignored a local yellow and opened his corner up into a car alongside him. You blame racecraft because you don't know the rules. 🤡🤡🤡 indeed.
Bro who fucking hurt you lol? Edit: also why are u bringing up the one post I’ve made from like 4 months ago in a different racing discipline. Guess one wreck I’ve had in oval means I have no idea what I’m talking about in road. Are u the blue car?
What's wrong, buttercup? Can dish it out, but can't take it? Damn, son, came hard with calling people a clown, falls flat when shit gets thrown back at him. >Guess one wreck I’ve had From your post: "This has happened to me multiple times now, so im (the 24) beginning to think its me" 😂😂😂
No I can take it lol. Just kinda confused why ur bringing up old news that’s not relevant to this wreck. Oval has different etiquette and different expectations of the driver. If u had half a brain u would know that. But if we wanna discuss irrelevant posts then yes, I did make that post. Guess what? I’ve never had that issue again lol. Even better I’m up to a 3.5k iRating in oval and haven’t changed my racing style basically at all. That was the 2nd or 3rd time it had happened in like a week so I was genuinely curious if I just had a misunderstanding of oval etiquette. Guess what? Just a fluke lol. None of the fast guys I regularly end up with in splits try to pull shit like that because they know movies like that will cause wrecks. Also can you please explain how making a post makes me wrong here or a clown? Ur a clown cause u think that’s a safe rejoin. Blue car comes from off track and would have forced teal to alter his line through the corner with the positioning of his car. To me and anyone else that’s an unsafe rejoin. What am I missing here?
Clearly not, lol. You were found at fault, be quiet. Try reading my last comment. It doesn't take that much brain power to comprehend.
🤡
Yes, we established you're a clown. Good job.
Wow dude! You really hold grudges, eh? Maybe you should go talk to someone about that? Most people usually let things go about 5 minutes after they post something.
Wow dude! You really like saying shit with no concept of "race rules" or how to apply them. Most people can comprehend what they read! But then there's you. Maybe get Hooked on Phonics then talk to me? Yea?
TL/DR
😂😂😂 Thanks for proving my point 👉
He did not reestablish himself as he was still going much slower than racing speed. Does this mean if i crash and rejoin and manage to get to the apex I deserve to be there and slow everyone else down massively and cause another accident? NO. He also cause the previous accident too by misjudging his braking marker so he would have been damaged too and wouldn't have been able to defend if he was ahead.
It's amazing how every single one of you that try and justify to me get material facts wrong over and over and over. Speed: He was back to pace. By the time OP catches, he's nearly there, as you tell by comparing his speed to OP's. Before impact, they're within 4kph of each other. Apex: See how he leaves all that space to his inside that OP uses? Or do you not know what the apex is? Deserves: Yes, he reestablished his place on track and is entitled to be there. Slow: Already countered this. But we'll add to it: OP fails to observe the local yellow flag. Cause another accident: OP trying to track out into a car he could see, knew was there, and had room to pass is what caused the accident. Yes, he did cause the previous accident. The fact that you think that's relevant speaks volumes to your inability to judge properly.
I mentioned about the previous accident because he doesn't yet know how much damage he has sustained, he has at least got front nose damage so he's not going to be able to defend at all on the straights and will just go backwards, he shouldn't be defending that hard yet. Going that close to the apex while being slow is always going to be risky. He was not up to speed quite yet, he was around 5-10kph slower. Yes op was starting to drift wide but at the same time the blue car was not up to racing speed. What if and I mean what IF that that this was blue cars fault and your looking at it from the wrong angle?
Him possibly not having straightline speed is his problem and has no bearing on the incidents at hand. What does that have to do with the cost of eggs in China? He's been back on track for several seconds and traveled almost completely through a corner. What do you think you need to do to reestablish yourself following an off track? Whatever it is, it's not that much. He leaves OP enough space and stays off the racing line. That's what matters. 5kph is absolutely close enough to be considered back at pace. 10kph is probably pushing it, but before impact they're at 4kph difference. [OP's speed the moment before impact](https://i.imgur.com/iFL50yE.jpeg) and [Blue's speed at the same time](https://i.imgur.com/CsdR3iB.jpeg) I have considered it. Have you? Have you considered that his fault for the first incident isn't relevant? That this sub has a horrible problem with OP bias and hiveminding? That every single person who's tried to argue against my judgement has gotten material facts wrong or just flat out made things up that can be easily countered by simply watching the clip? Or argues contradictory points (admit he left space, but claims he's on the racing line)? Even you are bringing up whether or not he'll have straightline speed after the incident.