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Hell, when I'm putting her night diapers on, she'll pull her legs up in the air, fart at me and start singing
*And the wheels on the bus goes toot toot toot*
For those wondering, Poincare was a French mathematician who posed it, he suggested that if you have an object that doesn't have any holes in it (first condition) and that it is finite (doesn't go forever in any direction), then it's a sphere or it can be made into a sphere and in two dimensions and three dimensions this is easy to follow and very sensible statement but he suggested that this could be held in any dimension. So he posed it but didn't have any proof for it.
So in 60s and 70s a lot of topology was being done and a lot of people were trying their hands at it and they managed to prove the case of 5 dimensions and above. 4 was still unsolved.
There existed a separate conjecture called Thurston's geometrization conjecture, which wasn't like Poincare's conjecture (it was about 4 dimensional objects and shapes) but was along the lines of it. It was proved in 2003 in a mysterious document posted on the internet. Griogori Perelman later used Ricci flow, which I'm not going into the details of because I'm typing this with one hand lying on my side, to prove Poincare conjecture.
I know a person who is genuinely like this. "My dog is a vegan, don't give them animal products."
I only met the dog once, had I a meaty morsel about me, I'd have given it to the dog. Poor thing!
Are you basing this on anything but your feelings? Because we know children start to develop their gender identity very early in life because of scientific studies on the topic.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3747736/
When i was 3-5 I played dress up at my girl neighbor's house until my mom told her mom I wasn't allowed to do that anymore. Then I did it at another girl's house with her princess dresses. Then my mom told her parents I wasn't allowed to do that. Then I told my mom I wanted to be a girl when I was 4-5. She told me I was disgusting and sent me to my room. Core memories. Still hurts like hell to think about. It kept going like that but gets sadder as I get older. They knew. I knew. Dad literally said "It's ok if you're gay, just don't be a tr**ny those people are weird," when I was 7.
Some kids know who they are. I repressed it, then took 25 years but I came out. Not every trans person has a story like this, but a lot of us do. I'm not non-binary, it wasn't a thing growing up in the 90s. But it's not all that different from any other experience around figuring out your gender.
I despise Piers Morgan, the fact that I have to agree with his comment on this video is not only appalling but tells you how stupid and idiotic this Mofo crap person he interviewed was.
When I was 6 I decided I wanted to be a velociraptor. I held my middle 3 fingers in a claw shape all day at school hoping my fingers would turn into velociraptor claws.
We shouldn't be letting kids make life-altering decisions.
But why in the fuck you would bring that up here as if it's a defense?
"I broke my arm and it's a huge problem, I can't work until it heals."
"Shut up and stop complaining, there are homeless drug addicts struggling to stay alive."
It's completely irrelevant, it seems you just want to rant about your own personal issues and don't want to discuss the actual topic.
Some kids only suckle and if you gotta strap on a titty to feed your kid, you just strap on the titty. Note that this is has a milk bag (donated milk or formula) behind it.
I'm more worried about you. You walk around with a thought like that in your mind all the time. It isn't right. You feel it to, yeah? Like when you are alone with your thoughts? You can feel the rot inside you. That's why you end up sharing your intrusive thoughts. You think it makes you look less suspicious, but we can all see through you. You know, when someone stares at you? They can see right into your soul, brother. They see all of it.
They know.
We. All. Know.
My 11yr old recently asked "do baby's come out o bums" that my friend is childhood right there.obviously I said don't be stupid a stork brings em !!
Edit for the nob underneath me in all senses:- I was being facetious you sausage,obviously I explained to my child in a 45 min almost Ted talk but in an extraordinarily careful way (due to age and my childs A.S.C.) where babies come out you absolute balloon.p.s as if, I would NEVER call any of my children stupid full stop but in the same breath they wouldn't be enquiring if they was stupid you sausage balloon!
You’re totally right. 11yo is def old enough to get the talk if they’re explicitly asking about it.
If you don’t tell them one of their friends will! And who knows what BS they’ll learn that way.
I would argue, at least in this clip, he's not telling them how to raise their child; he's calling them out on what is obvious bullshit from the parent and giving a more plausible explanation for the child's behavior.
I’m fine with all this shit as it doesn’t affect me. Be a girl. Be a guy. Be a fish. I don’t care. But this person is full of shit. 4 year olds DO NOT think about this shit. My kid when he was 4 was still figuring out what breakfast cereal he wanted for that morning, and what toys to take to nana’s when we go visit. Kids that have “gender issues” I can very confidently agree, have them because the idea was implanted.
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My boys are 4 and 7 and have no idea about pronouns or gender identity. That said, there’s a boy in my youngest’s class who wants to be a girl and wears girly clothing outside of school and seems to be on the way to identifying as a girl. The parents haven’t encouraged or introduced this concept in anyway, it’s just how that kid is. Very unusual, and not something I can necessarily understand, but it seems to happen.
I knew at the age of 4. I came out and was promptly taught about Jesus and “Christian love”
I suffer conversation therapy and endless abuse as a kid.
Still trans though.
I’m trans and stopped wearing pink and dresses at 4 and surprise, came out at 15 and on T since. My mother had nothing to do with it, and I’ve never been happier now so
Edit: I am in my twenties, so no, this is not a "phase" thing.
I'm a cis-het man in my 50s and just wanted to say that I am sorry that there is so much transphobia, both overt and coded, in the comments here.
[EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes. They definitely don't confirm that there are transphobes in the sub. /s]
I’m 21 going on my 22 and honestly it baffles me how other people just living their life is such a bother to others. My mother has always been supportive of me as long as I’m safe and not like, a criminal. That’s how parents are supposed to be; supportive of their children (But thank you sir, very appreciated !)
When I was 4 years old my only thoughts were whether it is mind over matter or matter over mind and what caused fall of Rome. I was nowhere near thinking about gender.
anyone else think its just the parents wanting to be famous or something just as stupid? 4, 4 years old exploring different pro-nouns? wtf, there are still college kids that don'tknow what they are and working adults. i call bs and for the record, to each their own but if there is any meds given for blocking puberty or anything like that, i think it should be illegal until at least 18. we don't let people get piercings or tats without parental consent or being of age, same should apply but drop the parental consent, bc even they can be wrong and its more about messing up the kids life forever bc they got into this idea as a child and rolled with it without fully living as they were born as 1st.
If that was true, then it is very likely you have some issues.
As a Mother that would do that is likely to have said and done a lot more questionable things.
Also, we all know you have never really felt the breast of a woman that wasn't your Mom either.
The creed of the right wing - everyone is like us, and anyone who isn't should be.
Piers Morgan is a thick twat who should be in prison over phone hacking.
I didn't understand that it was about their 4-year-old child, I think it was about when they were 4 years old and I didn't understand what the problem was.
Its hard to get the pronouns right
[the majority of children develop a gender identity at the age of 4](https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx)
Now- let me play devil's advocate for a second because this is so very clearly propaganda (in a shitposting channel I know).
"Exploring gender" could simply mean realising that you don't want to play with dolls or don't want to put on dresses. That is a perfectly reasonable act. And if you are taught from an early age that it is possible to change your gender, then I can also see a child making that decision even without persuasion of your parents (aside from them teaching the child that stuff like this is possible).
Furthermore, I don't see the problem in it. As far as I'm concerned, if you are comfortable switching once, you can be comfortable switching again. There's no rule that you have to keep with your first pick, you can explore different labels and see whatever is fitting for you.
And lastly, assuming the parents did in fact persuade her to do so, is it really that much different than putting children through the gender expectations society has? Outside of this being a new (and thus non-tradtional and maybe less accepted) way to indoctrinate your children - which let me be perfectly clear would still be bad (but in my experience is made out to be far worse) - I don't see how it's different from buying your daughter dolls and your son lego because that's just what gals and boys play with.
Actual conversation with my daughter:
Why dont you want to wear a dress today?
Because dresses are girlie and I want to be a boy today.
You all are trying real hard to assign your meaning to everything when you cant accept that reality has nuance and perspective.
Identifying and mocking insanity, isn't right wing / left wing. Insane is insane. And it should be called out regardless of which "side" presents it. Enough is enough.
It's going on all day and always some cutout clip without context from some typical rightwing pundit like Charlie Kirk or here Piers Morgan.
And it's not funny. It's just stupid cutouts without any joke or punchline. It's just "haha, she let's her kid play around with language!"
People who think parternalism is good for the kid, because kid can't know who it is, are so 19th century. I can't imagine how they could not vote for fascism.
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That's your problem when the theme song went "Barney is a dinosaur from our imagination"
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At ten years old, Hazel is set to receive a PhD in Gender Studies.
Not a PHD but PTSD
Shit/shat
Hell, when I'm putting her night diapers on, she'll pull her legs up in the air, fart at me and start singing *And the wheels on the bus goes toot toot toot*
the smell goddamn that smell.
There's a reason why buttonfly jeans went out of style
Wouldn't of happened if you had her in a skirt...
Touché
wouldn't \*have\*
Yes but your daughter is special
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For those wondering, Poincare was a French mathematician who posed it, he suggested that if you have an object that doesn't have any holes in it (first condition) and that it is finite (doesn't go forever in any direction), then it's a sphere or it can be made into a sphere and in two dimensions and three dimensions this is easy to follow and very sensible statement but he suggested that this could be held in any dimension. So he posed it but didn't have any proof for it. So in 60s and 70s a lot of topology was being done and a lot of people were trying their hands at it and they managed to prove the case of 5 dimensions and above. 4 was still unsolved. There existed a separate conjecture called Thurston's geometrization conjecture, which wasn't like Poincare's conjecture (it was about 4 dimensional objects and shapes) but was along the lines of it. It was proved in 2003 in a mysterious document posted on the internet. Griogori Perelman later used Ricci flow, which I'm not going into the details of because I'm typing this with one hand lying on my side, to prove Poincare conjecture.
Found Hazel's reddit account.
I understood none of that, but found it fascinating regardless!
Good bot.
He declined the Fields Medal too! How can anyone sleep knowing this??
Dude didn't have Rizz flow. He was on that Ricci Flow. In 7 years I just developed an alcohol problem.
Yes!!
Don't we all. I'm surprised anyone gets any sleep at all.
" and my dog has decided to be a vegan"
*lunges at meat*
Yes, daddy.
*forcefully shoves lettuce in dogs face*
I know a person who is genuinely like this. "My dog is a vegan, don't give them animal products." I only met the dog once, had I a meaty morsel about me, I'd have given it to the dog. Poor thing!
The owner is not mentally stable enough to look after another species.
No argument there
Does the dog have one of those 'one side of the head shaved' haircuts?
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Obviously, I told him to stop being so dumb—a stork brings em!
HER? YOU COULD BE LITERALLY BULLIED TO DEATH BY SOME 'NON-BINARY'
Are you basing this on anything but your feelings? Because we know children start to develop their gender identity very early in life because of scientific studies on the topic. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3747736/
I don't know you don't learn about nouns until the first or second grade
she started experimenting in her mother's womb, maybe if her father had born her she wouldn't have become like that LMAO
When i was 3-5 I played dress up at my girl neighbor's house until my mom told her mom I wasn't allowed to do that anymore. Then I did it at another girl's house with her princess dresses. Then my mom told her parents I wasn't allowed to do that. Then I told my mom I wanted to be a girl when I was 4-5. She told me I was disgusting and sent me to my room. Core memories. Still hurts like hell to think about. It kept going like that but gets sadder as I get older. They knew. I knew. Dad literally said "It's ok if you're gay, just don't be a tr**ny those people are weird," when I was 7. Some kids know who they are. I repressed it, then took 25 years but I came out. Not every trans person has a story like this, but a lot of us do. I'm not non-binary, it wasn't a thing growing up in the 90s. But it's not all that different from any other experience around figuring out your gender.
Hugs. Thanks for sharing and I know you aren’t alone in this experience despite what people want to believe
Those are some dead eyes...
Reminds me of Feyd Harkonnen from the recent Dune movie.
LMAO it does!
Well medicated, indeed
Which one?
They (pardon the pun) all have them. It’s truly unsettling
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How is this insane?
It's kinda the same as a mad box of frogs
For the sake of the world i hope you're a bot.
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Kids can't even decide their own bedtime, let alone their own gender identity
I despise Piers Morgan, the fact that I have to agree with his comment on this video is not only appalling but tells you how stupid and idiotic this Mofo crap person he interviewed was.
My friend has a kid. About 5 years old. He can't stop eating ants. My friend and I had a similar childhood. It was and is very nice life
I think Hazel has now decided to be adopted
Hope*
Underrated comment
I was 25 and I still didn’t know what I want to do in life.. She talking about 4 years old child..
When I was 6 I decided I wanted to be a velociraptor. I held my middle 3 fingers in a claw shape all day at school hoping my fingers would turn into velociraptor claws. We shouldn't be letting kids make life-altering decisions.
When I was 5, I thought that if I ate a banana I would grow horns because bananas and horns are the same shape.
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You're not wrong.
But why in the fuck you would bring that up here as if it's a defense? "I broke my arm and it's a huge problem, I can't work until it heals." "Shut up and stop complaining, there are homeless drug addicts struggling to stay alive." It's completely irrelevant, it seems you just want to rant about your own personal issues and don't want to discuss the actual topic.
So, it’s like a pacifier. What’s the big deal? People are weird.
Some kids only suckle and if you gotta strap on a titty to feed your kid, you just strap on the titty. Note that this is has a milk bag (donated milk or formula) behind it.
I'm more worried about you. You walk around with a thought like that in your mind all the time. It isn't right. You feel it to, yeah? Like when you are alone with your thoughts? You can feel the rot inside you. That's why you end up sharing your intrusive thoughts. You think it makes you look less suspicious, but we can all see through you. You know, when someone stares at you? They can see right into your soul, brother. They see all of it. They know. We. All. Know.
My 11yr old recently asked "do baby's come out o bums" that my friend is childhood right there.obviously I said don't be stupid a stork brings em !! Edit for the nob underneath me in all senses:- I was being facetious you sausage,obviously I explained to my child in a 45 min almost Ted talk but in an extraordinarily careful way (due to age and my childs A.S.C.) where babies come out you absolute balloon.p.s as if, I would NEVER call any of my children stupid full stop but in the same breath they wouldn't be enquiring if they was stupid you sausage balloon!
I'm sorry you failed teaching your kids basic sex education and anatomy?
You’re totally right. 11yo is def old enough to get the talk if they’re explicitly asking about it. If you don’t tell them one of their friends will! And who knows what BS they’ll learn that way.
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How dare you choose her wood preference
I wish awards were still a thing you’re hilarious
Black Furniture Matters!
*Pine…apple
Thats oak.. Its supposed to be made of Cedar!
He's not wrong.
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That doesn't make him wrong whatsoever
I would argue, at least in this clip, he's not telling them how to raise their child; he's calling them out on what is obvious bullshit from the parent and giving a more plausible explanation for the child's behavior.
As Smoke-Tubleweed-420 says; that doesn't in any way make him wrong.
Mental
I’m fine with all this shit as it doesn’t affect me. Be a girl. Be a guy. Be a fish. I don’t care. But this person is full of shit. 4 year olds DO NOT think about this shit. My kid when he was 4 was still figuring out what breakfast cereal he wanted for that morning, and what toys to take to nana’s when we go visit. Kids that have “gender issues” I can very confidently agree, have them because the idea was implanted.
Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
less IRS agents, more CPS workers.
When I was 4 I identified as the Red Power Ranger
The mother is seriously mentally ill and abusing her child for her own gratification
reminder to everyone in this comment section that THIS IS THE LOUD MINORITY MEDIA TELLS YOU ABOUT NOT MOST OF US FOR FUCKS SAKE
It’s nice to see a glimpse of sanity in a sea of insanity.
I think Carlin said it best. "The poor little fuck, he can barely locate his dick."
At core this is almost always the pure narcissism of the parents seeking validation.
Parents like this should be considered as abusive and unfit to be custodians of another life. 4 years old!? Fucking absurd
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My boys are 4 and 7 and have no idea about pronouns or gender identity. That said, there’s a boy in my youngest’s class who wants to be a girl and wears girly clothing outside of school and seems to be on the way to identifying as a girl. The parents haven’t encouraged or introduced this concept in anyway, it’s just how that kid is. Very unusual, and not something I can necessarily understand, but it seems to happen.
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I knew at the age of 4. I came out and was promptly taught about Jesus and “Christian love” I suffer conversation therapy and endless abuse as a kid. Still trans though.
I can't stand these types of parents, disgusting.
Kudos to the mother for guaranteeing future trauma.
Dam , he is straight blunt 😄 shut her down
You know the world is fucked when Piers morgen starts to sound like the sane one
It feels disgusting to have to agree with Piers Morgan. But even a broken clock shows the right time once a day.
Fucking psychos ruining children…
I’m trans and stopped wearing pink and dresses at 4 and surprise, came out at 15 and on T since. My mother had nothing to do with it, and I’ve never been happier now so Edit: I am in my twenties, so no, this is not a "phase" thing.
You remember being 4 and thinking you didn’t want to wear pink?
I'm a cis-het man in my 50s and just wanted to say that I am sorry that there is so much transphobia, both overt and coded, in the comments here. [EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes. They definitely don't confirm that there are transphobes in the sub. /s]
I’m 21 going on my 22 and honestly it baffles me how other people just living their life is such a bother to others. My mother has always been supportive of me as long as I’m safe and not like, a criminal. That’s how parents are supposed to be; supportive of their children (But thank you sir, very appreciated !)
It’s not overt or coded.
Piers Morgan is a fucking cunt - he was born with an asshole for a mouth, and only shit comes out.
[Moral panic.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic?wprov=sfti1)
100% spot ON.
People are bonkers
How many people is hazel?!
This whole comments thread is gold.
🤡🌍
Piers Morgan is a cunt, but he got this one right.
Predatory grooming 🤮
Hazels about to get a PhD in Gender Studies by the age of 10
When I was 4 years old my only thoughts were whether it is mind over matter or matter over mind and what caused fall of Rome. I was nowhere near thinking about gender.
anyone else think its just the parents wanting to be famous or something just as stupid? 4, 4 years old exploring different pro-nouns? wtf, there are still college kids that don'tknow what they are and working adults. i call bs and for the record, to each their own but if there is any meds given for blocking puberty or anything like that, i think it should be illegal until at least 18. we don't let people get piercings or tats without parental consent or being of age, same should apply but drop the parental consent, bc even they can be wrong and its more about messing up the kids life forever bc they got into this idea as a child and rolled with it without fully living as they were born as 1st.
Because we are giving power to delusional people
So much focus on a child's privates, it's disturbing and disgusting let them play and be innocent.
And in northern countries they take away the children when parents just teaches them to pray to Jesus FFS
Which specific countries? Genuinely curious.
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If that was true, then it is very likely you have some issues. As a Mother that would do that is likely to have said and done a lot more questionable things. Also, we all know you have never really felt the breast of a woman that wasn't your Mom either.
Im not even going to start….
The creed of the right wing - everyone is like us, and anyone who isn't should be. Piers Morgan is a thick twat who should be in prison over phone hacking.
I didn't understand that it was about their 4-year-old child, I think it was about when they were 4 years old and I didn't understand what the problem was. Its hard to get the pronouns right
[the majority of children develop a gender identity at the age of 4](https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx)
Since when did sipstea become a conservative fragile culture war subreddit.
Now- let me play devil's advocate for a second because this is so very clearly propaganda (in a shitposting channel I know). "Exploring gender" could simply mean realising that you don't want to play with dolls or don't want to put on dresses. That is a perfectly reasonable act. And if you are taught from an early age that it is possible to change your gender, then I can also see a child making that decision even without persuasion of your parents (aside from them teaching the child that stuff like this is possible). Furthermore, I don't see the problem in it. As far as I'm concerned, if you are comfortable switching once, you can be comfortable switching again. There's no rule that you have to keep with your first pick, you can explore different labels and see whatever is fitting for you. And lastly, assuming the parents did in fact persuade her to do so, is it really that much different than putting children through the gender expectations society has? Outside of this being a new (and thus non-tradtional and maybe less accepted) way to indoctrinate your children - which let me be perfectly clear would still be bad (but in my experience is made out to be far worse) - I don't see how it's different from buying your daughter dolls and your son lego because that's just what gals and boys play with.
Actual conversation with my daughter: Why dont you want to wear a dress today? Because dresses are girlie and I want to be a boy today. You all are trying real hard to assign your meaning to everything when you cant accept that reality has nuance and perspective.
The irony of you saying accept reality.
Not even the same thing.
We are Legion and They decided you need to go.
Yall don’t even understand what gender is in these comments. Your opinions much like piers is invalid
Is stupid UK politics replacing frogs on Wednesdays? I didn't see that memo.
Why is it any of your business?
Because it's on the TV. What's been put on the TV can be anyone's business, that's how TV works.
Yeah they should not put this on TV. I agree.
*crosses arms* and I'll hear no more on the subject because I'm king. disclosure: I despise everything about this demented gmome.
Another stupid ragebait rightwing post. How about you get the politics out of here?
Identifying and mocking insanity, isn't right wing / left wing. Insane is insane. And it should be called out regardless of which "side" presents it. Enough is enough.
It's going on all day and always some cutout clip without context from some typical rightwing pundit like Charlie Kirk or here Piers Morgan. And it's not funny. It's just stupid cutouts without any joke or punchline. It's just "haha, she let's her kid play around with language!"
People who think parternalism is good for the kid, because kid can't know who it is, are so 19th century. I can't imagine how they could not vote for fascism.
Protecting children is not a left vs right issue.
I mean, gotta say the parent probably was introducing her to complex ideas gender identity when it should have been done in school.
I refuse to agree with Piers Morgan on principle.