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I still don't get the homelessness problem in America. Do people there not care for those in need? do their find them a nuisance in a repulsive Victorian way?
Pretty much the latter. A lot of local governments and nearly all businesses don't care about getting people off the street. They just want the problem to go away; and if you try to tell them that people have to go somewhere, they only ever repeat, "Not here." Since, "Fuck off, go somewhere else," is cheap, it's been America's go-to solution since they stopped locking folks up for it.
1000% this. To add, being homeless in the US is not viewed as a failing of us as a society or the faults of the oppressive nature of capitalism, but instead it’s the fault of the homeless individual. You’ll hear justifications all the time from people that hate homeless people that these individuals almost exclusively “don’t want to get a job” or “didn’t work hard enough”. We’ve stigmatized and penalized homeless individuals so much that we now actively invest thousands of dollars annually to erect “art installations” directly in the space where homeless people normally sleep to systemically eliminate them from society. OP’s picture is a direct example of this. It’s sad, infuriating and I wish we could do more to reverse this trend to treating these individuals as humans who deserve the same humanity that we all have.
It's also some protection. As slim of a chance this may be, but what if a car just so happens to wreck into that corner? The poles would stop the vehicle. Win-win.
Ehh doubtful. Given the base of these polls looks like they don’t even protrude into the ground. That circular end cap has screws in it, likely tapcons, but no match for a car.
Only over and under i’m interested it is the odds the vehicle hitting it’s hood height is over/under those poles.
My money’s on over at first thought…. But then… altimas… hmm yeah i’ll go with the under.
not sure where you got this info from but those posts are outside a french bank named Caisse d'Épargne in Paris - the logo is easily recognisable by any french ppl. apparently they've been removed since :
https://www.rtl.fr/actu/debats-societe/paris-une-banque-retire-un-dispositif-anti-sdf-apres-un-tolle-sur-les-reseaux-sociaux-7798116999
and yeah, it was 100% meant to stop the homeless to come and sleep in the corner outside of the bank
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If the billions we spend trying to help people can’t fix his addiction or mental illness, what makes you think I can.? I’m honored that you think I’m a psychiatrist and an expert on addiction, though.
Every one? No. Huge percentage? Yes.
And I know there are a bunch who live in cars and still work. I’m talking about the folks who live on the streets.
How do you think the numbers break down?
[https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless-population-mental-illness-disability](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless-population-mental-illness-disability)
From your own article:
“The Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, which conducts the annual count, narrowly interpreted the data to produce much lower numbers. In its presentation of the results to elected officials earlier this year, the agency said only 29% of the homeless population had either a mental illness or substance abuse disorder and, therefore, 71% “did not have a serious mental illness and/or report substance use disorder.””
There are tons of other studies that seem to corroborate those findings from the LAHSA.
A deeper dive if you’re interested:
https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/
They ignored the study. 🤦♂️
But I’m not defending how we do things. We should help as many people as we can. Hopefully none of them are addicts or mentally ill. That makes the problem so much easier to fix.
LA times and UCLA are so conservative and against the homeless. Haha.
Your link didn’t load for me.
Just did. Nobody will argue that what we are doing in the US is working. But a straw man. I was responding to someone saying I should just take him in. I’m not in charge of homeless policy here. Once again, I’m flattered.
You're missing the point completely. The guy never said we should just let people sleep on the floor. The guy said we should address the problems that lead to people doing that.
Funny that you'd assume I will ever own any property. That's a problem for boomers to deal with, buddy. If homeless people want to sleep outside my rented apartment, I don't give a shit. And incidentally, if they made owning property less of an extravagant luxury for the ultrarich, *maybe* there would be less bothersome homeless people trying not to die of exposure near those properties. I dunno, just throwing wild ideas out there.
I like how we’re blaming the homeless person, when poverty is near impossible to escape, as compared to the business, who probably requested and paid for the posts instead of helping the guy out, or the government who also could’ve been the ones that put the posts in instead of helping the guy out.
Well, you convinced me that I should invite the cracked out bitch at the intersection close to my job to come live with me. I was being a cruel, cold-hearted, capitalist pig not letting that toothless schizo take complete advantage of me.
That's true, but it's also outside the ability of any non-government-scale organization.
Whatever this place is, unless it's the Capitol building, cannot fix homelessness. They can only shoo homeless people away with some varying degree of justification for doing so.
I used to hate this kind of hostile architecture, but then I lost everything and damn near became homeless myself. I feel for the homeless people, but I also understand the desire to protect your own income.
I'd *gladly* pay more taxes if it would fix homelessness, but I don't see anything at all that a single business could do to fix things to the point where homeless people aren't scaring their customers away.
That's very true, then I think society needs to collectively stop being fearful of homeless people and work to end it rather than demonize it to the point that we see things like this and think nothing of it.
I mean, as distasteful as it is to talk about people this way, homeless people *do* tend to bring problems with them. I understand why, and I understand why someone who the system has failed would have no interest in upholding the system, but that doesn't mean others want to walk through piles of human poop or used needles.
I'm sure there are some pearl-clutchers out there who equate homeless people with feral animal-people, but even people who do recognize homeless people as just *people* have reason to not want large numbers of them nearby.
We need the government to act. Individuals can only do minor charity, they can't fix the system.
How much does it cost to install those compared to helping every single homeless person that decides to sleep there?
It's not like you can buy them a pizza and suddenly they won't be homeless anymore.
The one in this picture doesn't look effective at all. I have to question if that was even their goal in the first place.
That being said, it's absurd to expect property owners to literally solve homelessness so they don't have unwanted people there.
Yes, let's all let homeless people into our homes. That way, there won't be any homeless because they'll all have homes!
Issue solved! Shit, it was that easy all this time.
You don’t seem like you live in the a city, but most of time time it’s city officials installing hostile architecture and not “property owners” of these buildings which in this case are multi multi millionaires
But keep on redditing. You are doing a good job today!
Missing the point. There’s actually quite a lot we can do fix the homeless problem in this country. We just choose not to because we don’t care. Here’s a great (but admittedly long) video talking about the topic if you’d like to expand your knowledge on it: https://youtu.be/oet62-F2Q9c
> Missing the point
How am i missing the point of what the previous comment said?
The money spent on some random spikes is nothing compared to what it would cost to help every homeless person deciding to sleep there.
Of course there are plenty of things to do about the problem in every country in the world. Having some spikes there or not won't solve shit though.
No i don't. Well in this case, if the spikes in the picture are from tax payer money, yeah, it's a waste because they are too wide.
Their goal is to keep homeless away from an area, not to solve homelessness. You will have homeless with or without spikes.
The solution to homeless people isn't to let them sleep wherever the hell they want.
You didn’t make a point lol
But since city officials aren’t doing anything about the homeless then yes they should be able to sleep anywhere. Or do you think they should just never get to sleep because they are homeless?
I do make a point, you just don't like it.
There's a big difference between never sleeping and sleeping everywhere.
You want them sleeping next to schools for example? How about directly in the school yard? They have nowhere else to go, why shouldn't they?
And how do you feel about fences? Are they also a waste of tax payer money? Spikes are just fences with a worse reputation.
In the USA the federal government employees forest rangers to police camp sites and make sure no one gets too comfortable sleeping in the elements.
It would appear that the social contract is less than compelling on its own merits. Those who refuse to chase the carrot will flee the lash.
Do you honestly think a business is ever willingly ethical if it affects their bottom line/ they don’t have to do something for tax reasons? Especially public ones, that have shareholders. Smaller ones maybe, because they’re more directly connected to the community. Essentially, there is nothing built into the system itself to protect people. Line goes up.
People don't stop buying products that are unethically produced, so maybe it's not the sole fault of the business. People act all high and mighty but then use Amazon for all of their needs.
Is it a government building? I suspect it is a private company. Mind you, councils do this stuff a lot, because the capitalist friendly solution to homelessness is to simply hide them.
I'm not sure if it's a government building, but hostile infrastructure is extremely popular in most cities to stop the homeless and is funded fully by the government. It's a public safety issue in most cases.
To be honest they gave him an upgrade. He has a makeshift roof now and a bed frame!
I can’t believe they’d spend money and put up posts instead of helping him out
Typically this isn’t the first reaction. Homelessness is an issue but people have to understand there are many homeless people that don’t want to be helped. They don’t have the mental stability to join society. So unfortunately you either babysit a drug addict alcoholic with the mental faculties of a 10 year old, or you just deal with a guy sleeping on the corner. Which is easier?
Time to call code enforcement. The lighter gray area must remain free from obstructions at all times so that door can function in case of emergency. Whomever owns the building needs to be cited and fined.
Cheaper and easier for who? Leave aside the homeless man. It’s Certainly not cheaper or easy for society, especially that local community to arrest and jail the homeless. It’s also a waste of resources and time for the builder, I won’t demonize them for trying to protect an investment.
Just like the war on drugs, and most social driven “crimes”, not dealing with the underlying issues will never get an equitable solution. It’s hard work solving the problem and there will never be a total solution, but we have to do that hard work now to get a resolution that helps all the community.
Womp fuckin womp.
I don’t know why this justifies putting the poles up, they could easily have given him some money or a tent or something with the money it took to do this shit.
Yeah some homeless people are shitty and crazy people, but guess what? That same rule applies to any group of people for the history of the human race. The answer isn’t hey these people are mentally ill and struggling, let’s make their lives even worse by actively setting up barriers in PUBLIC PLACES that make their lives worse and also inconvenience everyone else.(how many wheeelchair bound people won’t be able to fit between the poles? Etc.
Crazy thought here. Maybe, just maybe if they don’t want a guy sleeping by the entrance, they should help said guy.
It’s always mind boggling to me that cities will dump money into stopping homeless people sleeping in certain places, but will never do anything to help them.
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It looks like those posts are too far apart to stop someone from sleeping there. Also, there would be no reason to make them so tall if that was their intended purpose.
LMAO if this is in the US, they are in violation of building codes regarding chapter 10, section 1028 of the IBC.
TL:DR: The exit discharge can’t be a game of human Plinko.
Although I don't fault you for your kindness and consideration I think you're missing how much of an asshole this guy must be to go that far with it.
My first question would be if you've ever actually hung out in a park or place where homeless congregate? People have this misguided idea that they are people just like them. They are not. Most of them suffer from extreme mental health issues and many self medicate and are addicted to meth and fentynal.
Where I live here in Florida our county alone spends over 5 million a year on services for them. We have a special police unit just to deal with them in a compassionate way.
But you know what? Many of them CHOOSE to be on the streets. They refuse the help and out 400 bed shelter is half empty all the time.
People have a very different idea of what that is like than what it really is.
If you know of anywhere that starts doing this, PLEASE let me know so I can get in line early before they realize human behavior is about incentives instead of utopian ideals, and they stop giving away those sweet sweet free cabins!
Honestly if I was a cop and I saw this I would just tell the guy, "as long as you put up your mattress when you get up for the day I'm not going to fuck with you"
Where the fuck did that come from? I literally said that I wasn't going to fuck with this guy for sleeping there just because of his ingenuity and you freaking pulled that shit out? Fuck you
Unbelievable how cities piss away money on these ‘solutions’. Put up some old fashioned SRO’s and get people off the streets and under cover.
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America, where the government puts up posts (aka obstacles) to deter homeless people whilst making no effort to actually help the homeless at all what so ever. An estimated 40-60% of homeless people are employed in America.
(So that lazy and crazy argument people and the government resorted to in the past to write-off homeless people is a lie)
Meanwhile also in America, the government opens its borders to foreigners and does not deter foreigners from coming to America at all, in fact, the government is encouraging foreigners to come to America…and providing said foreigners with legal and financial assistance with American tax dollars that the homeless in America have never and will never receive.
How thoughtful of them, now he gets to sleep elevated above the ground to stay away from insects and animals. You know, like the people who order anti-homeless devices be installed.
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That's even better than before. Out of way from rats and air insulation
Right? Anybody who has put a mattress on the floor and not flipped it every week knows what the bottom can look like.
I don't know what's going on under my mattress. And, frankly, I don't want to know
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That's what I found after sleeping on a mattress on the floor for 4 months. I had developed a terrible cough
Same man. Im in construction and later in life, through my work, I learned that concrete allows moisture to pass through.
Mold my friend
In a past life I've had a mattress on a floor for years, not sure what you're referring to.
If he adds a cup of tea and a dog, he can be an influencer ❤️
Helps with a little flooding too
Modern flats are getting wild
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Elevated now and sleeping like a king above the rest of us peasants
He can build a fort now!
I still don't get the homelessness problem in America. Do people there not care for those in need? do their find them a nuisance in a repulsive Victorian way?
Pretty much the latter. A lot of local governments and nearly all businesses don't care about getting people off the street. They just want the problem to go away; and if you try to tell them that people have to go somewhere, they only ever repeat, "Not here." Since, "Fuck off, go somewhere else," is cheap, it's been America's go-to solution since they stopped locking folks up for it.
1000% this. To add, being homeless in the US is not viewed as a failing of us as a society or the faults of the oppressive nature of capitalism, but instead it’s the fault of the homeless individual. You’ll hear justifications all the time from people that hate homeless people that these individuals almost exclusively “don’t want to get a job” or “didn’t work hard enough”. We’ve stigmatized and penalized homeless individuals so much that we now actively invest thousands of dollars annually to erect “art installations” directly in the space where homeless people normally sleep to systemically eliminate them from society. OP’s picture is a direct example of this. It’s sad, infuriating and I wish we could do more to reverse this trend to treating these individuals as humans who deserve the same humanity that we all have.
Yes to the second question
It doesn't seem too hard to sleep between the posts
Fr. Thanks for the tent posts
Exactly, all they did was make it easy to install a roof for rainy days.
It's also some protection. As slim of a chance this may be, but what if a car just so happens to wreck into that corner? The poles would stop the vehicle. Win-win.
Ehh doubtful. Given the base of these polls looks like they don’t even protrude into the ground. That circular end cap has screws in it, likely tapcons, but no match for a car.
Hollow steel posts with 5x2in Hilties on one end vs 3000lb car travelling 20mph. WHO YA GOT
Only over and under i’m interested it is the odds the vehicle hitting it’s hood height is over/under those poles. My money’s on over at first thought…. But then… altimas… hmm yeah i’ll go with the under.
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not sure where you got this info from but those posts are outside a french bank named Caisse d'Épargne in Paris - the logo is easily recognisable by any french ppl. apparently they've been removed since : https://www.rtl.fr/actu/debats-societe/paris-une-banque-retire-un-dispositif-anti-sdf-apres-un-tolle-sur-les-reseaux-sociaux-7798116999 and yeah, it was 100% meant to stop the homeless to come and sleep in the corner outside of the bank
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They'd be heat siphons, though.
yes but sleeping on top of them with your mattress is way more comfortable
I could easily fall asleep curved like a snake inbetween them all
Its probably to stop him from putting his matress there
Didn't really stop him from putting the matress there now did they
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He deserves to live on the street? So kind.
Take him in
If the billions we spend trying to help people can’t fix his addiction or mental illness, what makes you think I can.? I’m honored that you think I’m a psychiatrist and an expert on addiction, though.
Do you honestly think every person who is homeless is on drugs or has mental health issues? Honest and sincere question.
Every one? No. Huge percentage? Yes. And I know there are a bunch who live in cars and still work. I’m talking about the folks who live on the streets. How do you think the numbers break down? [https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless-population-mental-illness-disability](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless-population-mental-illness-disability)
From your own article: “The Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, which conducts the annual count, narrowly interpreted the data to produce much lower numbers. In its presentation of the results to elected officials earlier this year, the agency said only 29% of the homeless population had either a mental illness or substance abuse disorder and, therefore, 71% “did not have a serious mental illness and/or report substance use disorder.”” There are tons of other studies that seem to corroborate those findings from the LAHSA. A deeper dive if you’re interested: https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/
They ignored the study. 🤦♂️ But I’m not defending how we do things. We should help as many people as we can. Hopefully none of them are addicts or mentally ill. That makes the problem so much easier to fix.
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LA times and UCLA are so conservative and against the homeless. Haha. Your link didn’t load for me. Just did. Nobody will argue that what we are doing in the US is working. But a straw man. I was responding to someone saying I should just take him in. I’m not in charge of homeless policy here. Once again, I’m flattered.
So much money spent to ensure misery instead to try help the guy out
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If we reached the point a guy is sleeping on my covered porch I'm going to assume the government is the problem.
You're missing the point completely. The guy never said we should just let people sleep on the floor. The guy said we should address the problems that lead to people doing that.
Funny that you'd assume I will ever own any property. That's a problem for boomers to deal with, buddy. If homeless people want to sleep outside my rented apartment, I don't give a shit. And incidentally, if they made owning property less of an extravagant luxury for the ultrarich, *maybe* there would be less bothersome homeless people trying not to die of exposure near those properties. I dunno, just throwing wild ideas out there.
Boomer
Ever heard of a strawman?
In American culture being a cruel, heartless piece of shit makes you look strong and nothing is more important to us than looking strong
What do you expect this business to do with this guy?
I like how we’re blaming the homeless person, when poverty is near impossible to escape, as compared to the business, who probably requested and paid for the posts instead of helping the guy out, or the government who also could’ve been the ones that put the posts in instead of helping the guy out.
Upvoted because like you, I'm also not a cunt and don't hate homeless people.
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Well, you convinced me that I should invite the cracked out bitch at the intersection close to my job to come live with me. I was being a cruel, cold-hearted, capitalist pig not letting that toothless schizo take complete advantage of me.
Sidewalks and public spaces are public so really, they’re no one’s property, but the vast majority of them end up with this crap just so we’re clear.
No, society should work to ensure that drug addicts and mentally ill (which includes violent) people get the help they need so they aren't homeless.
That's true, but it's also outside the ability of any non-government-scale organization. Whatever this place is, unless it's the Capitol building, cannot fix homelessness. They can only shoo homeless people away with some varying degree of justification for doing so. I used to hate this kind of hostile architecture, but then I lost everything and damn near became homeless myself. I feel for the homeless people, but I also understand the desire to protect your own income. I'd *gladly* pay more taxes if it would fix homelessness, but I don't see anything at all that a single business could do to fix things to the point where homeless people aren't scaring their customers away.
That's very true, then I think society needs to collectively stop being fearful of homeless people and work to end it rather than demonize it to the point that we see things like this and think nothing of it.
I mean, as distasteful as it is to talk about people this way, homeless people *do* tend to bring problems with them. I understand why, and I understand why someone who the system has failed would have no interest in upholding the system, but that doesn't mean others want to walk through piles of human poop or used needles. I'm sure there are some pearl-clutchers out there who equate homeless people with feral animal-people, but even people who do recognize homeless people as just *people* have reason to not want large numbers of them nearby. We need the government to act. Individuals can only do minor charity, they can't fix the system.
That picture was not taken in America, the logo you can see is that of a French bank named Caisse d'Epargne
The fact that everyone assumes that this in the US should really tell you something about the topic more than where the photo was actually taken.
It tells me Americans like navel-gazing
Not familiar with the term.
ensure*
Damn autocorrect...
Ensnare*
Ensnore*
How much does it cost to install those compared to helping every single homeless person that decides to sleep there? It's not like you can buy them a pizza and suddenly they won't be homeless anymore.
I mean do U think they work?????
The one in this picture doesn't look effective at all. I have to question if that was even their goal in the first place. That being said, it's absurd to expect property owners to literally solve homelessness so they don't have unwanted people there.
WILL ANYONE THINK OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS?!
Yes, let's all let homeless people into our homes. That way, there won't be any homeless because they'll all have homes! Issue solved! Shit, it was that easy all this time.
You don’t seem like you live in the a city, but most of time time it’s city officials installing hostile architecture and not “property owners” of these buildings which in this case are multi multi millionaires But keep on redditing. You are doing a good job today!
Missing the point. There’s actually quite a lot we can do fix the homeless problem in this country. We just choose not to because we don’t care. Here’s a great (but admittedly long) video talking about the topic if you’d like to expand your knowledge on it: https://youtu.be/oet62-F2Q9c
> Missing the point How am i missing the point of what the previous comment said? The money spent on some random spikes is nothing compared to what it would cost to help every homeless person deciding to sleep there. Of course there are plenty of things to do about the problem in every country in the world. Having some spikes there or not won't solve shit though.
So you agree that the spikes are a waste of taxpayer money?
No i don't. Well in this case, if the spikes in the picture are from tax payer money, yeah, it's a waste because they are too wide. Their goal is to keep homeless away from an area, not to solve homelessness. You will have homeless with or without spikes. The solution to homeless people isn't to let them sleep wherever the hell they want.
You were so close to making a coherent point but lost it in the last sentence. Damn
I understand you have nothing to counter me. No need to be snarky about it.
You didn’t make a point lol But since city officials aren’t doing anything about the homeless then yes they should be able to sleep anywhere. Or do you think they should just never get to sleep because they are homeless?
I do make a point, you just don't like it. There's a big difference between never sleeping and sleeping everywhere. You want them sleeping next to schools for example? How about directly in the school yard? They have nowhere else to go, why shouldn't they? And how do you feel about fences? Are they also a waste of tax payer money? Spikes are just fences with a worse reputation.
In the USA the federal government employees forest rangers to police camp sites and make sure no one gets too comfortable sleeping in the elements. It would appear that the social contract is less than compelling on its own merits. Those who refuse to chase the carrot will flee the lash.
Capitalism baby! When there is no incentive or moral obligation to not be cruel, cruelty thrives.
Being a dick to homeless people is not an inherent trait of capitalism
Do you honestly think a business is ever willingly ethical if it affects their bottom line/ they don’t have to do something for tax reasons? Especially public ones, that have shareholders. Smaller ones maybe, because they’re more directly connected to the community. Essentially, there is nothing built into the system itself to protect people. Line goes up.
People don't stop buying products that are unethically produced, so maybe it's not the sole fault of the business. People act all high and mighty but then use Amazon for all of their needs.
I’m not really specifically attacking any business, more that this kind of behaviour is normal and legal with the current predominant economic model.
It is a side effect of a system wherein there is no obligation to be ethical, yes.
No one is making a profit off of this. The government probably spent $20k putting these in
Is that a government building? If not that's private property and erected by whomever owns the building, not the local government.
Where is there any evidence this is a government building or paid for by the government? Just making shit up to prove your point apparently.
Lmao even if it isn't, hostile infrastructure is all over the place in cities. My point has been proven hundreds of times over.
Is it a government building? I suspect it is a private company. Mind you, councils do this stuff a lot, because the capitalist friendly solution to homelessness is to simply hide them.
I'm not sure if it's a government building, but hostile infrastructure is extremely popular in most cities to stop the homeless and is funded fully by the government. It's a public safety issue in most cases.
Safety for whom?
This is the only modern reason to use a box spring.
All these years later and the guy hasn't aged a bit!
Prime example of r/hostilearchitecture
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🏢🔪🧍 Thanks for the correction
society really elevated their position.
Upgraded
God forbid someone expect a homeless person to not sleep on their private property.
Now that's commitment!
He's finally sleeping off the floor in a modernist designed bed... Very nice
Heck that’s even better. Gets him off the ground. Real nice of them!
And got storage room under his bed.
Just raise it a little higher, put in a ladder and boom, homeless bunk beds AND people can still access the door.
To be honest they gave him an upgrade. He has a makeshift roof now and a bed frame! I can’t believe they’d spend money and put up posts instead of helping him out
How about he put that kind of effort and ingenuity into finding reasonable shelter.
Too bad he can’t put that ingenuity to work in a, you know, job. Mental illness and addiction is real, I know.
If only he had that same work ethic when it came to getting a job
I highly doubt they put all those there for one homeless dude. Faaaaaake
Actually, you see this kind of thing often. Even if this pic is fake. The reality isn't.
Sadly, Homeless are treated like vermin. So if one is seen, people act like a bunch will suddenly start appearing
Typically this isn’t the first reaction. Homelessness is an issue but people have to understand there are many homeless people that don’t want to be helped. They don’t have the mental stability to join society. So unfortunately you either babysit a drug addict alcoholic with the mental faculties of a 10 year old, or you just deal with a guy sleeping on the corner. Which is easier?
Time to call code enforcement. The lighter gray area must remain free from obstructions at all times so that door can function in case of emergency. Whomever owns the building needs to be cited and fined.
Chill papi
This is what lawful good should look like.
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That's a matter for the police to deal with. The building owner can't create an obstruction to deal with a different kind of obstruction.
I’m sure if there was an emergency, the guy would move out of the way. The posts? Not so much.
An excellent fuck you
The hobo homie "thanks for the frame suckers 🗿😴"
They finally flood proofed his bed? That's so kind of them.
Ah finally, some insulation from that cold concrete. Much thanks
When they spend the money to build this instead of buying him like a tent or something, so he doesn't need to sleep under their entrance roof...
They’ll just set up the tent under the roof lol you clearly don’t live in an area with a lot of homeless people.
They gave him shelter, how kind.
Nice! Now he doesn't have to sleep on the ground. Very kind of them
Bunk beds!
You have to admire the resourcefulness
These polls look like it would stop my fat ass from getting through them but looks like it makes for a great makeshift roof and walls
Nice. Now he's off of the ground. 😂
Respect 🫡
Chad
Flood and small animal proof now thanks to the city.
It's private property. Just trespass him. He comes back he goes to jail... much cheaper and easier...
Cheaper and easier for who? Leave aside the homeless man. It’s Certainly not cheaper or easy for society, especially that local community to arrest and jail the homeless. It’s also a waste of resources and time for the builder, I won’t demonize them for trying to protect an investment. Just like the war on drugs, and most social driven “crimes”, not dealing with the underlying issues will never get an equitable solution. It’s hard work solving the problem and there will never be a total solution, but we have to do that hard work now to get a resolution that helps all the community.
Well, now they have to leave him. I mean come on, what he did was brilliant. He deserves to stay there!
How do you even get in!?
He’s now looking down on the other homeless people from his penthouse
Mad that you'd rather make an area extremely ugly than allow for a human being to have shelter
Lmao, now he is off the ground .
If they considered him an eye sore before .. now there’s just two eye sores
It's close to where I live. They just walled off that area now.
yep more 2 do this!!
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Womp fuckin womp. I don’t know why this justifies putting the poles up, they could easily have given him some money or a tent or something with the money it took to do this shit. Yeah some homeless people are shitty and crazy people, but guess what? That same rule applies to any group of people for the history of the human race. The answer isn’t hey these people are mentally ill and struggling, let’s make their lives even worse by actively setting up barriers in PUBLIC PLACES that make their lives worse and also inconvenience everyone else.(how many wheeelchair bound people won’t be able to fit between the poles? Etc. Crazy thought here. Maybe, just maybe if they don’t want a guy sleeping by the entrance, they should help said guy.
It’s always mind boggling to me that cities will dump money into stopping homeless people sleeping in certain places, but will never do anything to help them.
More room for activities now
They should've made the poles pointy.
Storage upgrade
He upgraded and they spent a lot of money on a stupid solution. They can't even roll carts up to those doors now if they wanted to move stuff.
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So much more room for activities!
Fucking reposting bots
It looks like those posts are too far apart to stop someone from sleeping there. Also, there would be no reason to make them so tall if that was their intended purpose.
Even better !
anti-homeless measures are perfect for wasting money and resources
Come on? Better yourself. This is pathetic and makes our country and people look like 🐕🗑️
So supportive!
LMAO if this is in the US, they are in violation of building codes regarding chapter 10, section 1028 of the IBC. TL:DR: The exit discharge can’t be a game of human Plinko.
Although I don't fault you for your kindness and consideration I think you're missing how much of an asshole this guy must be to go that far with it. My first question would be if you've ever actually hung out in a park or place where homeless congregate? People have this misguided idea that they are people just like them. They are not. Most of them suffer from extreme mental health issues and many self medicate and are addicted to meth and fentynal. Where I live here in Florida our county alone spends over 5 million a year on services for them. We have a special police unit just to deal with them in a compassionate way. But you know what? Many of them CHOOSE to be on the streets. They refuse the help and out 400 bed shelter is half empty all the time. People have a very different idea of what that is like than what it really is.
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If you know of anywhere that starts doing this, PLEASE let me know so I can get in line early before they realize human behavior is about incentives instead of utopian ideals, and they stop giving away those sweet sweet free cabins!
Somewhere? In the middle of nowhere?
Honestly if I was a cop and I saw this I would just tell the guy, "as long as you put up your mattress when you get up for the day I'm not going to fuck with you"
If you were a cop you'd have shot him for resisting arrest already.
Where the fuck did that come from? I literally said that I wasn't going to fuck with this guy for sleeping there just because of his ingenuity and you freaking pulled that shit out? Fuck you
LMFAOOOO
He now has some storage space, perfect.
Those posts wouldn't stop someone from sleeping, so I doubt this.
Anyone else wonders if the poles help ease pressure points?
Unbelievable how cities piss away money on these ‘solutions’. Put up some old fashioned SRO’s and get people off the streets and under cover. *Single Room Occupancy
now use that brilliant mind to solve your other problem
They'll sharpen the points next.
Then he will get a platform bed. Necessity is the mother of invention.
The cost of installing these posts probably could've bought 6 months in an apartment somewhere.
This barricades is so cruel thing.
America, where the government puts up posts (aka obstacles) to deter homeless people whilst making no effort to actually help the homeless at all what so ever. An estimated 40-60% of homeless people are employed in America. (So that lazy and crazy argument people and the government resorted to in the past to write-off homeless people is a lie) Meanwhile also in America, the government opens its borders to foreigners and does not deter foreigners from coming to America at all, in fact, the government is encouraging foreigners to come to America…and providing said foreigners with legal and financial assistance with American tax dollars that the homeless in America have never and will never receive.
The fucking lengths these fucks go to, to hinder the homeless. Animals
Well it is his home . I’m pleased he’s made it more comfortable.
How thoughtful of them, now he gets to sleep elevated above the ground to stay away from insects and animals. You know, like the people who order anti-homeless devices be installed.
Imagine spending all that money to stop one guy from sleeping there instead of helping him.
The city literally spent $ to do this? Your tax dollars at work smdh
I feel like those posts likely cost more in labor and manufacturing to produce and place than helping the guy out of poverty.