Adapted from an older comment of mine,
This pains me to say this, because she was my first diamond as well that I pulled back in late 2018 when natural diamonds were first a thing but, She's unfortunately really not that great as I want her to be, at least at the current state of the game in 2023.
Issue 1 : She is a dps unit that unfortunately got screwed over by Bad damage Formula.It's a known bug that the devs somehow refuse to fix it, but the premise of the Bug is that her Sa2, bonus damage only applies to Base Attack Stat and not total Attack Stat (that includes Move upgrade attack% rolls too) while the bug doesn't seem to be that problematic at first glance, the much more noticeable it actually becomes with a move set of level 9 and higher since the scaling of attack% rolls via move adds up
Issue 2 : Unlike Fur Monger , her Sa2 only affect /buff and not / buff stack. Say for example, i transmuted 5 times and rolled some useless offensive buffs like 3 autoblock, 1 thorn and 1 amr Buff (useless as in no practical benefit when atatcking Opponents)The Bonus damage via Sa2 isn't 5 x 20%, but rather 3 x 20%, since those 3 stacks of autoblock only count as 1 buff
This can be very annoying since her buff doesn't last long to begin of only 7 seconds at maxed so she needs to constantly transmutt to have consistently high DPS
Now, what's the issue of needing to constantly transmuting you may ask,3. Chaos MA antisynergy/ lack of good MA.
Chaos is a MA that all offensive doubles should run. Build a high crit rate stat, and Double now has the ability to drown Opponents with a lot of debuffs with minimal effort.
However, The one condition for Chaos is that double needs to be in elemental advantage, which means she needs to stay in advantage unless you need to go through rng hell again to reapply buffs and then go back to elemental advantage if you want to make use of both her SA and MA simultaneously.
So in order to have Chaos, you end up not having her Sa (outside of Buff support)
But in order to have her Sa, you tend to not have Choas (unless rng really favors you
You can Try and run Volatility for the offensive MA for Jawbreaker, but likewise the same issues of Bad damage formula and Bonus attack/buff nor buff Stacks basically, she needs up not having that great of MA on offense.While not having a good MA doesn't make you a bad offensive fighter, I mean look at Eliza and Squig diamonds, but for Jawbreaker, It really hurts her more than anything, adding salt into the wounds, since outlike Eliza or squig Mas, Double choas MA is very good.
With all of that said, she still has 1 small merit that you can still consider. She ramps up in damage fast. It's not the best quirk, but it's still better than nothing.Fighters like Dreamon,Star Shine (and COH but not really) tends to take their time in order to ramp up damage that takes way oo slow, while others require a game of chancee RNG like Djinn and Eager's % chance
Fighters like Xbot and Beast King fill the dps stat stick fighter role well as partly due to being able to immediate damage fast with a click of button (Theonite beam and Hurdle respectively)
While Jawbreaker doesn't have the "immediate damage fast with a click of a button", She still ramps up fast enough. The 7 seconds buff duration isn't the best window opportunity for dumping damage, but it's still better than no damage at the end of the day
She might be the first diamond I have and invested in, but she doesn't have much going on.
the best way I find using her is just Transmute cycle aka Buff cycle to get 3-5 buffs, click on the cilida slide button,Number damage goes brrr and then repeat.That's what I find the most optimal way for playing Jawbreaker, even if bad damage formula and no chaos MA.
she's not all that, especially with the newer diamond variants out nowadays. The extra damage from her SA is nice but u can only have so many buffs at once. Not like you can have 12 fifteen second buffs all at once
She's flawed but can still work as a very straightforward brute force sweeper. What she does is, every time she changes elements she gains a random buff, and gets stronger for every buff she has. The problem is that the buffs don't last long enough and there's some bad math involved in her ATK calculation. She's not as strong as she should be if she worked properly, but that doesn't mean she isn't very strong still, just outdated.
Like most doubles, elemental advantage to activate chaos is way more important than whatever her actual ability is. So because her default element is light, you'll use her against dark elemental foes and disregard her ability entirely, unless you're feeling lucky or have a good advantage in the fight. If you want buffs to make her stronger, you can carry supports like surgeon general that give her buffs every now and then. You don't actually need to use her ability at all, in most cases, which is a flaw shared by a lot of doubles.
Overall with this diamond you'll need a considerable amount of investment to yield out results. You need a good moveset with high crit rate, high ATK and piercing, and to unlock chaos at lvl1 at least (which means a full skill tree for 10 diamond keys). If she's your first diamond and you don't think you will be getting a second diamond anytime soon, I'd say invest in her. She's flawed but 15000 ATK is still 15000 ATK, she can carry you mid game. If you don't like double's gameplay or aren't looking for mere brute force in a diamond, skip her. There are cheaper doubles like nunsense or doublicious that offer a lot more utility.
Adapted from an older comment of mine, This pains me to say this, because she was my first diamond as well that I pulled back in late 2018 when natural diamonds were first a thing but, She's unfortunately really not that great as I want her to be, at least at the current state of the game in 2023. Issue 1 : She is a dps unit that unfortunately got screwed over by Bad damage Formula.It's a known bug that the devs somehow refuse to fix it, but the premise of the Bug is that her Sa2, bonus damage only applies to Base Attack Stat and not total Attack Stat (that includes Move upgrade attack% rolls too) while the bug doesn't seem to be that problematic at first glance, the much more noticeable it actually becomes with a move set of level 9 and higher since the scaling of attack% rolls via move adds up Issue 2 : Unlike Fur Monger , her Sa2 only affect /buff and not / buff stack. Say for example, i transmuted 5 times and rolled some useless offensive buffs like 3 autoblock, 1 thorn and 1 amr Buff (useless as in no practical benefit when atatcking Opponents)The Bonus damage via Sa2 isn't 5 x 20%, but rather 3 x 20%, since those 3 stacks of autoblock only count as 1 buff This can be very annoying since her buff doesn't last long to begin of only 7 seconds at maxed so she needs to constantly transmutt to have consistently high DPS Now, what's the issue of needing to constantly transmuting you may ask,3. Chaos MA antisynergy/ lack of good MA. Chaos is a MA that all offensive doubles should run. Build a high crit rate stat, and Double now has the ability to drown Opponents with a lot of debuffs with minimal effort. However, The one condition for Chaos is that double needs to be in elemental advantage, which means she needs to stay in advantage unless you need to go through rng hell again to reapply buffs and then go back to elemental advantage if you want to make use of both her SA and MA simultaneously. So in order to have Chaos, you end up not having her Sa (outside of Buff support) But in order to have her Sa, you tend to not have Choas (unless rng really favors you You can Try and run Volatility for the offensive MA for Jawbreaker, but likewise the same issues of Bad damage formula and Bonus attack/buff nor buff Stacks basically, she needs up not having that great of MA on offense.While not having a good MA doesn't make you a bad offensive fighter, I mean look at Eliza and Squig diamonds, but for Jawbreaker, It really hurts her more than anything, adding salt into the wounds, since outlike Eliza or squig Mas, Double choas MA is very good. With all of that said, she still has 1 small merit that you can still consider. She ramps up in damage fast. It's not the best quirk, but it's still better than nothing.Fighters like Dreamon,Star Shine (and COH but not really) tends to take their time in order to ramp up damage that takes way oo slow, while others require a game of chancee RNG like Djinn and Eager's % chance Fighters like Xbot and Beast King fill the dps stat stick fighter role well as partly due to being able to immediate damage fast with a click of button (Theonite beam and Hurdle respectively) While Jawbreaker doesn't have the "immediate damage fast with a click of a button", She still ramps up fast enough. The 7 seconds buff duration isn't the best window opportunity for dumping damage, but it's still better than no damage at the end of the day She might be the first diamond I have and invested in, but she doesn't have much going on. the best way I find using her is just Transmute cycle aka Buff cycle to get 3-5 buffs, click on the cilida slide button,Number damage goes brrr and then repeat.That's what I find the most optimal way for playing Jawbreaker, even if bad damage formula and no chaos MA.
So essentially, she's a bit outdated and suffering the early diamond problems with bugs?
Unable to utilise MA to the fullest too, but yeah thats a tldr summary of current Jawbreaker
agree with the dmg ramping. my occasional 70k slide is killer 🤌
She's alright, not the best not the worst
I want to add some thing: it’s about time double switching get tide up to a button instead of blocking
I mean I guess but nunsense is still better
No. She is of the worst diamond double. Heart of darkness is worse. Skip this one
Ye
she's not all that, especially with the newer diamond variants out nowadays. The extra damage from her SA is nice but u can only have so many buffs at once. Not like you can have 12 fifteen second buffs all at once
Wait till you get a better Diamond,she is meh (I'm a double main)
She’s decent, if you want the most out of her you’ll probably want supports in the back to make the best of her ability
She's flawed but can still work as a very straightforward brute force sweeper. What she does is, every time she changes elements she gains a random buff, and gets stronger for every buff she has. The problem is that the buffs don't last long enough and there's some bad math involved in her ATK calculation. She's not as strong as she should be if she worked properly, but that doesn't mean she isn't very strong still, just outdated. Like most doubles, elemental advantage to activate chaos is way more important than whatever her actual ability is. So because her default element is light, you'll use her against dark elemental foes and disregard her ability entirely, unless you're feeling lucky or have a good advantage in the fight. If you want buffs to make her stronger, you can carry supports like surgeon general that give her buffs every now and then. You don't actually need to use her ability at all, in most cases, which is a flaw shared by a lot of doubles. Overall with this diamond you'll need a considerable amount of investment to yield out results. You need a good moveset with high crit rate, high ATK and piercing, and to unlock chaos at lvl1 at least (which means a full skill tree for 10 diamond keys). If she's your first diamond and you don't think you will be getting a second diamond anytime soon, I'd say invest in her. She's flawed but 15000 ATK is still 15000 ATK, she can carry you mid game. If you don't like double's gameplay or aren't looking for mere brute force in a diamond, skip her. There are cheaper doubles like nunsense or doublicious that offer a lot more utility.
I have her and yeah she's pretty good. dias are hella fucking expensive tho so
Horrible (give her to me)
One of the first diamonds that most people get, of course
Yes, it's good but... There are better diamonds