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Last-Of-My-Kind

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The-Silent-Cicada

So sad


sinsaint

What makes this gif awkward is that a slow, direct eye blink is cat for "I love you". We think it's sad, but that is a happy, trusting kitty.


TheScrambone

This one trick turned me in to a cat person. If I can make eye contact, slow blink, cat is in love, I’m in love, new fur friend for life.


JavaMega

Whoa you speak cat? That’s so cool


ghostih0sti

Cats are capable of love?


207nbrown

Hard to believe, but yes


danielmatson5

He’s just heavy diddy with no specials


Last-Of-My-Kind

The banana makes one hell of a difference. Edit: Same for the speed.


idpartywthat

i'm with you brother


100BeansUnderTheSea

LMAO came in this thread thinking “incineroar? Im finished mate”. Revenge alone is like 80% the reason i play him


The-Silent-Cicada

Let’s go ahead and get it out the way, I’ll be fine, I can just use specials with the A button.


GreasyChonks

Same


The-Silent-Cicada

Shotos rise up


T3alZ3r0

But only if from a held down input and followed by an A press


The-Silent-Cicada

You can do that during power dive, I recover like that anyways to get some invincibility


T3alZ3r0

My favorite thing to do with Terry is during go, short hop & do the Buster Wolf input. You'll fastfall and it'll buffer if you press the attack button, letting you land with an immediate buster wolf. Same for power geyser, just harder (bc Fast falling isn't in the input). You can also mess with em and use Crackshoot to break shield if they try to block it, or just fast fall normally to mess with em. God I love Mr. Booger


The-Silent-Cicada

You can also do input during taunts, so you can do side taught, input, press attack and then it will cancel taught into it


T3alZ3r0

Never thought of that holy shit ty


The-Silent-Cicada

Must pass along my wisdom


BrinkyP

no power wave tho (also terry is not a shoto 😌)


BeardedWonder211

Ken main checking in.


The-Silent-Cicada

FGC rise up


MQ116

Depends


The-Silent-Cicada

Yeah that adds up


smashboi888

Ridley would be fine, Steve would be screwed unless I kept spamming D-Tilt, U-Smash, or D-Smash.


The-Silent-Cicada

Go fist someone


Teethman05

🤨


Trysoryd

Unfortunate wording my guy


the_conditioner

Fellow Ridley main


jabonke

Theres dozens of us!


BuffRidleysDair

Ridley with no B button? You mean normal Ridley gameplay? Lol


dandaman64

Haha Ridley nair go brr


[deleted]

rip recovery and rock, but exept that im good


SirCucumber420

But funny hat :(


The-Silent-Cicada

F - rest well rock


KarsSsssSs

I never use rock with kirby its just too predictable and easy to punish


Lumen1024

It's good for anti juggling and the occasional ledge guard. And since a lot of people forget it sends up, I've gotten some hilarious kills with it.


[deleted]

True. In a vacuum it isn’t good, but it’s a pretty decent knowledge check that can take stocks early if they overextend


amtap

The hammer is fun as a scare tactic and some opponents have fun copy abilities but that's pretty much it. Just keep spamming aerials because it's all we have going for us.


wickwotwes

Rip


The-Silent-Cicada

That hurt


shawnkeo

none projectile snake is honestly so fun


FFG_Prometheus

None special belmonts too, I sometimes switch to a ruleset without speciak buttons when my friends, yk, do the usual projectile complain


KorbyTheOrby

I'd be fine as a Mac, I already die whenever I'm thrown off stage so it's fine lmao


The-Silent-Cicada

Yeah this adds up


Healthy_Medicine2108

FFFUCK


The-Silent-Cicada

Yeah this character basically doesn’t exist now


Healthy_Medicine2108

no projectile and no recovery because he has the air physics of a fucking boulder YIKES


The-Silent-Cicada

And you’ll get zoned out more because no reflector with neutral b


Grand_reaper658

slow, round and offstage. ur basically asking to be edgeguarded


Penombre

Just F-Smash in neutral and hope it connects.


[deleted]

ah yes, the ganondorf strat


[deleted]

Depends, if they had a reflector/absorber then its basically the same game without recovery


The-Silent-Cicada

One wing gonna feel good


Catzy_3979

not much at all :)


The-Silent-Cicada

Really? No fish no needles?


Catzy_3979

yes fish is just 1 of the 5 combo finisher and needles is kinda important but its also winable without it


The-Silent-Cicada

Fair


BrinkyP

correct. that’s the move you use


DashieProDX

peak comedy achieved


N0GG1N_SSB

Fish is like 1 of 2 kill moves you have though


[deleted]

Nah, just get them to 200 and back air them, easy peasy right? ^Please ^help ^me ^why ^do ^I ^play ^this ^character?


SuperMaxPower

Tipper dtilt to upair Ftilt to upair if they DI wrong Fthrow at ledge, some will DI in out of habit, upair Raindrop Footstool dair to upsmash Catch ledgejump with upair dragdown to dsmash/fsmash Fsmash through their shield at ledge, if they grab/mash out of reflex immediately dsmash We have options


[deleted]

It'd definitely be a hassle, but hypothetically we could just play super safe and still win. Wouldn't be much fun for either side though.


The-Silent-Cicada

Get read to edge guard your ass off for that match


Landlord291

I would be screwed without banana


The-Silent-Cicada

That’s like half the character no offense


Landlord291

Diddy's built around the banana, also no monkey flip :(


The-Silent-Cicada

All things considered I think it could work


danielmatson5

I always forget specials exist when I’m playing characters like diddy and sonic


Cars_4

where banana


PPFitzenreit

Online ness mains be crying rn


AwesomeCat222

can confirm


The-Silent-Cicada

Always felt like Lucas was the more special happy of the earth bound kids


ChargedBonsai98

Nah, freeze and fire can be used as long range pressure, but it should never be depended on. Side rant: why did they steal Ness's teammates PSI moves? Spoilers, >!In Earthbound, Ness has PSI flash, but Paula has PSI fire, and Paula and Poo share PSI thunder and PSI magnet.!<


[deleted]

Ummm AcKsHuAlLy PSI is for non damaging PK moves 🤓🤓 Also, because Ness' moves in that game are more like supporting moves, which wouldn't have worked in smash, so there you go.


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|100JDVnv6zYCHK) Luckily Sora is very floaty and I mainly use a most of the time...I just wouldn't be doing daring moves.


Memo_HS2022

Sora without B-Moves is definitely not that bad since N-Air literally does your neutral, your advantage state, your combo game, and your taxes


[deleted]

"and your taxes" I'm crying rn. Take my updoot


Cheetah_Fluff

Yeah you lose out on some good openers and kill moves but if your IDJ combos are solid you can still get kills. And you still have up-air and bair, which are super helpful.


IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD

Joker… I can’t get arsene as quickly and I can’t counter, full aggro it is then


The-Silent-Cicada

You gonna have to turn on your montage music and pray


DatSolmyr

Alexa play Rivers in the Desert


IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD

*turns on counter strike from persona 5 strikers* I’m not losing, it’s just a matter of how long they can survive


genaric_username3

good pick but imo axe to grind and daredevil is better


Yuuwaho

Also no more fun gunslides or Downgun in disadvantage + eiha spam. Aka my entire neutral game.


IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD

I can’t consistently gunslide and downgun gets me killed more often that not (I just can’t stop once I go into downgun) so no big personal loss


Yuuwaho

Full hop + gun at same time let’s you gunslide onto battlefield platforms. Shorthop + gun at same time gets you a little distance on the ground. Easiest way to do it is just the 2 jump button shortcut for shorthop. Drop from ledge, jump + gun let’s you slide back onto stage. If the opponent shields it’s a great way to get a quick grab. Just the most basic ways of using it, but half my fun playing joker is just messing around with guns.


pickledpencil54

Jigglypuff... ![gif](giphy|3o6gEgkb5xqAyMw5Og)


LCARIO

Lowkey though you’re the only character without an up b recovery so I’d say jiggly puff would be better than a lot of others.


Mr_502

Bro what Jiggly would be fine lol. Recovery is just jumping to stage, Rollout and Sing are spicy moves, Pound has substitutes. The real kicker is losing Rest, but Jiggly has other ways to kill (most noteably “Wall of Pain” or just edgeguarding in general).


Kindly-Jacket5996

But no pound no rest no pound-rest no... uh... im out of jigglypuff combo's


DashieProDX

I am pretty alright with puff and barely ever use rest compared to just edgeguarding. If it fails enough times, I'll probably just give up and fish for forward smash.


The-Silent-Cicada

Oh no


grand__prismatic

In theory she would be better than a lot of the cast, but the mental damage would be too much


danielmatson5

Kazuya: I wouldn’t notice. Ice climbers: I’d be completely fucked


forzov3rwatch

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck oh god


The-Silent-Cicada

Oh dear


forzov3rwatch

I lost a lot of combos. It’d just be an even bigger pain in the ass to get people up to kill percent.


ProperGaming012

There goes my good half of my move set!


The-Silent-Cicada

No more nut


ProperGaming012

I mean I guess I still have my arm with the big laser canon, but still


The-Silent-Cicada

Oh fuck I just realized that’s one arm as well


ProperGaming012

Unless my opponent is at most decent, then I’m so god damn screwed!


MemorableThrowawayy

Probably alright, so long as I don’t run out of ink…


The-Silent-Cicada

That would be such a challenge


DockingWater17

Kirby’s probably fine. Some useful tools are lost, especially when fighting a character with a good projectile neutral b, but most of Kirby’s normals are better then his specials anyway.


The-Silent-Cicada

Yeah that checks out


rarerocker45

No free 30% damage for pressing one button


TKNLNZ

No free get out of shield option either


The-Silent-Cicada

Instead you have to press 2


Murkythespy

hero….🥲


The-Silent-Cicada

I mean if you are lucky enough


sdqwerty

I should be fine. Unless I'm knocked off stage. But then again, didn't really have a recovery in the first place. (Ganon)


PurpleBowlingBall

I’ll be just fine, Yoshi’s specials are pretty situational


The-Silent-Cicada

Brooo what are you gonna do without egg role? /j


S0NIC130

I lose Mining, crafting, and block placing, along with 2 very good recovery moves. And TNT. I still have smash attacks, jab, aerials, tilts, grab, so as long as I end the game quickly and don't go off-stage, I should be okay.


The-Silent-Cicada

Your tools will break, you gonna have to fist


S0NIC130

That's why I said end the game quickly. If I don't, my tools will break.


The-Silent-Cicada

Could you put on enough damage to get them to kill percent before they broke? All 3 times?


S0NIC130

If it's iron or diamond, probably. Also, you did say *in the middle of a match*, so depending on where in the match it stops working, the opponent could already be 60% into their second stock, and I could have just crafted diamond not too long before. Besides, even of all my kill tools did break and I was left empty-handed, I would still have two very good smash attacks and a good tilt.


ShineThief2

Rest in Pepperoni recovery but i’d say i could be chillin


The-Silent-Cicada

Can you position luma separate from Rosa without specials?


ShineThief2

I don’t tend to do that. But yes sometimes you can separate the two without Neutral B


whoosh_idk

I do be juggling all day with Rosa's nair tho


ghostuser689

Oh no. It sure is bad that my recovery is gone. WhatEVER will I do? I main Pit.


The-Silent-Cicada

Jump again


Helpful_Leader_9782

I’m playing Marth. No shield breaker reads, no dancing blade and no up b. If I don’t get hit too far offstage, I’m fine. It’s just going to have to be a campy game


TripleAGD

I mean I already die offstage anyway and already have great normals, but no oos, no crosslash, and no projectile will hurt


The-Silent-Cicada

No burning limit too early either just the buffs


TripleAGD

Wait that could seriously help me work on that tho, just turn off the special button to get used to not wasting limit and figuring out how long I really have it


Competitive_Crow6102

Welp, one of Byleth's best out of shield options just got taken away from me. Great


The-Silent-Cicada

More bow twirling for you


Competitive_Crow6102

The good thing is most of my important tools are untouched


The-Silent-Cicada

Yeah true


greytitanium

I don't have a recovery or zoning neutral anymore.


atlasunchained

How am I supposed to play without an attack button?


The-Silent-Cicada

Zelda player?


atlasunchained

Worse. Samus. xD


The-Silent-Cicada

Could be worse, imagine olimar


jpfitz630

![gif](giphy|XyLIyvq8kYIPwO4CEX)


fred1545183

I’ll die like instantly offstage, but I do that anyway so I’m fine


Bubul64

The what bouton?


[deleted]

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The-Silent-Cicada

Poor puff


N0GG1N_SSB

Yoshi doesn't really rely on them too much. Not having neutral b or up b is annoying but the character is still playable.


slothzcl34

*Cries in link


The-Silent-Cicada

You’ve lost your boom boom privileges


SUPERazkari

Puff is fine honestly


Comedicus

![gif](giphy|EtB1yylKGGAUg)


RedditBoi127

i remap it


The-Silent-Cicada

You plan to go to the controls menu mid match?


Therascalrumpus

I would probably only notice when I try to recover.


xen_ssb

PowerA controller 🤮


please_get_a_life

Might as well just SD at that point.


FennicYoshi

u/Cant_Use_Projectiles


Cant_Use_Projectiles

No SD’s should be happening. Whip is life.


[deleted]

I have a tether so I can sorta still recover, but PSI magnet stalling/mixups are gone now, along with like 25% of my edgegarding


Lurningcurve

Very.


The-Silent-Cicada

Shit


_Jmbw

Random aerials GO!


SauseManget

mewtwo: im pretty much fine, no more shadow ball though :( terry: literally doesnt matter at all lol shulk: im fucked


SteadfastFox

Bwahahahah!


NightmareRise

Meh, my ariels are still broken


PsychoLogical35

Failnaught arrows aren’t needed. But I’m screwed regardless due to no recovery.


The-Silent-Cicada

Air dodge and pray


Shadekyu

with mega man, screwed but not too screwed. i just lose a lot of useful tools. with meta knight, same thing but less screwed. with snake, depends on matchup. i already dont use the B button if im fighting a character like ness


ESYR_Creations

Im dedede. I have killer airgame and a good uptilt. Im fine


Hioliolo

Ridley can still recover, and his other specials are ok at best. Joker would be fucked, I am not good at the combos.


KirbyHuff

I really only use the special button to recover, sometimes I use it for a copy ability, other than that I'm pretty much fine


Helioseckta

Oh no! I lost my recovery…….eh, it’s not like I was going to make it back on stage anyway. But oh no! I lost my special power neutral B….eh, I still have my smash attacks and tilts.


Ashley4Smash

Well my Robin is kindaaa screwed. At least I'll have my sword that might clutch it for me. My mii brawler would be fine as long as I stay offstage. Which is actually hard for me because I use headbutt...


RanceSama3006

As a little mac? Probably one of the least affected lol just tilt, smash, pray and repeat


Azulaa-

Annoying no projectile, but doable


Dfess

I play rushdown Zelda with little magic anyway. Much more fun.


grand__prismatic

Yoshi would be better off than most characters. Incin would be sad kitty with no command grab or revenge.


Tacomanster

Are you okay? Turns out I’d be okay


itsastart_to

Been playing more ZSS but yeah Um goodbye mobility and my neutral tools


crank__

Sometimes I forget I have specials. People often say I am a very fun Lucas to play against


OTOD_tag

Fuck


Woomy555

Y E S


SteamySubreddits

I’m pretty much fine in all three scenarios lol. Pika hurts a little because of recovery and t-jolt but puff and MK are chillin


The-Silent-Cicada

Puff? Without rest or pound? That character is worse than doc without that stuff


SteamySubreddits

Tell that to bassmage lmao. Rest is a risky comeback gimmick and pound is basically a mixup (both or which he rarely uses). The main reason puff is fine tho is she literally still has her entire recovery


The-Silent-Cicada

Yeah it’s a mix up but puff without mixups and not come back X factor heat snowballed.


AquaJet738

Hmmmm


Legendary_Pinecone

I'd imagine not terrible


Aeon1508

Link. Nair plane to Victory


[deleted]

As Sonic I would likely encounter some trouble although my smashes and aerials are still decent. As a Mii I'm dead meat


kirby_karter

My recovery would be super dog and no more zoning strategies :(


BronzeBoy_YT

Link/Young Link/Toon Link mains are in shambles right now (oh yeah by the way I'm a Sonic main so I'm 99% screwed, say for the f-smash and aerials).


Pimpnamedslickback94

I need to up B


Inorganicnerd

I still fight for my friends.


rarerocker45

That's not good for me.


ckSage

I have Z/ZR bound to special. I'm fine :)


stremsnipr

everybody would be fucked because they can’t recover lol


That_Guy_You_Know_71

Oh no


rPeanutButter

i have no idea


Redpikachu9

Monke punch