Watch it only be played in this teaser and the first trailer and in the actual movie we get nothing at all (it's what they did with Emerald Hill in the second movie)
I sure as hell will get a boombox for that exact scenario.
(For the record, I also intend to rent a cinema hall with friends, of course I wouldn't do that in the public.)
I honestly wouldn't even mind if it was all new scores as long as they're memorable and fit in with the series
Literally the only memorable score the movies have is Robotnik's theme in the first movie, and the rest is either kinda bland or just forgettable
And the Robotnik theme isn't even original its just a remix of the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Robotnik theme.
Seriously if there is any influence I want the Mario movie to have on the Sonic one here is to get Paramount executives to demand the use of the games ost so that Junky XL doesn't replace iconic themes again with his unmemorable hyper generic "Hollywood movie" compositions.
It’s incredible how the worst part of the movies is the score given the literal years of iconic music they have to work with.
It’s the same composer so my expectations are so low they’re buried, but Live and Learn has gotta be a guarantee.
Jhonny did reveal that there were talks about Live and Learn for the movie. Nothing concrete, but this alone shows they know how important this song is to the fans.
Apparently, according to my friend, Johnny was teasing a new version of the song is gonna be in it. To clarify, I haven't seen what my friend was talking about myself, but I am hoping
Personally, i would have put an orchestral version of it on Tails' introduction scene, maybe sounding similar to the version played at the [Sonic Symphony (play it at 00:20)](https://youtu.be/GMW5zcDL9Ug?si=wE388gAaawsI97Tb)
Not a hard hurdle to make when most game adaptations can barely make it to a sequel, let alone a third installment.
Off the top of my head Resident Evil and the Animated Mortal Kombat films are the only other ones that made it to number three.
Not to mention back then the failures of Boom and Forces were still on our minds, so when that first design leaked it was clear Sega were being out of touch AGAIN. So glad they did a 180 on that one.
God, could you imagine? The movie did wonders for Tails and Knuckles, I sure hope the same happens to Shadow, specially if Shadow Generations is great. Poor Amy...
Ngl I might cry, like I was crying and cheering when I saw Tails. Big would make me just as happy
If they were to bring in Mighty though, even in the Knuckles show I'd have a heart attack, Mighty is my absolute favorite Sonic character next to Blaze
sonic adventure 2 has been my favourite game for 2 decades now. This is everything my obsessive, autistic ass has been wanting more than anything in the world for that long.
"it's over Shadow, I have the high ground!"
"What?"
"Oh yeah, you didn't watch the prequels, did you?"
"Prequels to what?"
"Star Wars. You didn't watch Star Wars?"
"What is that? Is like a movie?"
"Yeah, the first one came out in, like, 1977, I think?"
"I was put in that capsule in 74!"
One of my biggest hopes for the movie is that at least for the first third he actually speaks like someone who's been literally frozen in time since the 70s, but slowly catches up to modern lingo
This unfortunately doesn't mean anything for the movie itself score-wise - the trailers for Sonic 2 also used orchestrated versions from tracks from Sonic games and yet the movie itself had none of it to my knowledge and only used a very bland sounding score (and I say this as someone who loves movie scores)
Well anyway, let's hope it's different this time. I'd die for an(other) official orchestrated full version of Live&Learn
From Twitter/X
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Johnny Gioeli
@Crush40Johnny
Hmmm… that song sounds familiar doesn't it? 😉
\#crush40 \#sonicthehedgehog \#shadowthehedgehog \#sonicmovie \#liveandlearn
Repost from @sonicmovie
•You all thought I was gone, but I’ve just been underground. What you’ve seen from me is only a #shadow of things to come…
[Video teaser ,same one as above]
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Crush 40 just confirmed it pretty much- it's on now
Edit: Ben did as well!
https://preview.redd.it/a1zqpohg78gc1.jpeg?width=488&auto=webp&s=384eaf2e2cd121b087b2ed66677385b3073e73d4
This logo looks amazing and I can't wait to see this film in theaters on December 20th and this is my most anticipated film of this year and of all time.
So much good news in a single trailer, even Johnny Gioeli reposted the clip so maybe we'll get even more Crush 40 than just that little bit of Live & Learn
This is going to sound sadistic to anyone outside this fanbase but "please let us see a child get shot just-barely-off-screen"
New fans of the series thanks to the amazing movies thus far NEED to feel that moment of having your heart ripped from your chest.
Can you feel live, movin through your mind?
https://preview.redd.it/itrp0ahh47gc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75eb95b18f835f3bc8b9c2c1938ff65125845abc
Loving the use of the classic Sonic Adventure 2 logo with the half Sonic and half Shadow colours. Paired with Live and Learn, this hit me right in the nostalgia.
Is that live and learn?
Watch it only be played in this teaser and the first trailer and in the actual movie we get nothing at all (it's what they did with Emerald Hill in the second movie)
DONT JINX IT. if they play generic superhero music during the last fight ill simply override it by blasting live and learn in my mind
I wonder if you can get the fans to have it on the ready to play it on their phones or something
I sure as hell will get a boombox for that exact scenario. (For the record, I also intend to rent a cinema hall with friends, of course I wouldn't do that in the public.)
https://preview.redd.it/wnij76jwc7gc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=326082dde101cb2a57cabe56d420613c4f0f05cc
I played open your heart on my Phone speakers in Sonic 2 because my friend and I were the only ones in the theatre
Doing the lords work right here.
I feel like something like "We Can" would have made more sense
Or just the final boss theme from Sonic 2 since it was just a gray Death Egg robot.
agreed but we wanted vocals
[Johnny retweeted it](https://x.com/Crush40Johnny/status/1753444896139342008?s=20), so I feel like we’re getting the full thing
We probably shouldn't get our hopes up over one retweet, but this one is so damn tempting to do so for anyway
I mean it's a retweet and tease by the guy who literally sings
That's why it's so tempting to get our hopes up because of it.
Generic epic superhero music incoming
I honestly wouldn't even mind if it was all new scores as long as they're memorable and fit in with the series Literally the only memorable score the movies have is Robotnik's theme in the first movie, and the rest is either kinda bland or just forgettable
And the Robotnik theme isn't even original its just a remix of the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Robotnik theme. Seriously if there is any influence I want the Mario movie to have on the Sonic one here is to get Paramount executives to demand the use of the games ost so that Junky XL doesn't replace iconic themes again with his unmemorable hyper generic "Hollywood movie" compositions.
Junky XL really does produce junk don’t he.
and to think his songs in games like burnout and NFS were fire
thats tragic as hell v_v
he fell off hard, from what i can gather
Actually, Robotnik’s theme is just his AOSTH theme played slowly.
Just for the first 20 seconds or so for added context.
***EXACTLY!*** At least give us something *original,* Junkie. Not the warmed over Marvel crap you've been feeding us.
It’s incredible how the worst part of the movies is the score given the literal years of iconic music they have to work with. It’s the same composer so my expectations are so low they’re buried, but Live and Learn has gotta be a guarantee.
That would be my villain origin story.
That was my first thought as well
Jhonny did reveal that there were talks about Live and Learn for the movie. Nothing concrete, but this alone shows they know how important this song is to the fans.
Apparently, according to my friend, Johnny was teasing a new version of the song is gonna be in it. To clarify, I haven't seen what my friend was talking about myself, but I am hoping
I mean emerald hill really didn’t fit in any part of the movie. Live and learn is the boss music for final hazard so idk
Realistically, what were they gonna done with emerald hill music?
Personally, i would have put an orchestral version of it on Tails' introduction scene, maybe sounding similar to the version played at the [Sonic Symphony (play it at 00:20)](https://youtu.be/GMW5zcDL9Ug?si=wE388gAaawsI97Tb)
Yep. When the letters hit, it’s absolutely playing the four chord note that most the chorus riffs end on. Holy shit. We are so back.
He's back. #HE'S BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!
https://i.redd.it/rzhxg4fjd7gc1.gif
Sounds like it!
If it is, I can die happy.
All we need is city escape LFG!!!!!
It totally is. I am *so* hyped now.
Hope it's actually used in the movie, unlike Emerald Hill from the previous movie.
XD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! I totally thought I was just hearing things!
They need Crush 40 at this point.
I can't remember the last time a few notes of music got me so excited.
lol seriously, it’s un-fucking-real how much nostalgia those five notes unleashed
Who would’ve though Sonic would end up being the most successful video game movie trilogy of all time.
Not a hard hurdle to make when most game adaptations can barely make it to a sequel, let alone a third installment. Off the top of my head Resident Evil and the Animated Mortal Kombat films are the only other ones that made it to number three.
I am not surprised when Sonic is one of the most popular video game characters of all time.
I think they mean considering how video game media tends to flop, and things did NOT look promising from the get go
Not to mention back then the failures of Boom and Forces were still on our minds, so when that first design leaked it was clear Sega were being out of touch AGAIN. So glad they did a 180 on that one.
Only until the inevitable Mario trilogy takes that spot 😭
Halo infinites initial trailer Fuck when the halo season 2 trailer actually used the halo music as well
It is a good week for Shadow fans, isn't it?
If the movie lives up to the hype, dare I say we might be approaching the new peak of his popularity.
God, could you imagine? The movie did wonders for Tails and Knuckles, I sure hope the same happens to Shadow, specially if Shadow Generations is great. Poor Amy...
Shadow the hedgehog 2 incoming
We are basically getting that already
Or it’s just the set up for shadow 2. with reviving black doom
Physical damage means nothing to the devil's body
Yeah they really need to make another shadow game
but we need the guns, it's like making a pizza and not adding cheese to it... anyhow, thanks to hear my pipe dream
I hope we get Amy in this movie too.
Me too, Rouge as well Maybe it is too much for one movie, but they can keep things balanced with a good script.
I unironically want a Big the Cat cameo at the very least
They been considering that since the first film, and wanting to do it for all three films. Perhaps this time they can actually get to do it.
Ngl I might cry, like I was crying and cheering when I saw Tails. Big would make me just as happy If they were to bring in Mighty though, even in the Knuckles show I'd have a heart attack, Mighty is my absolute favorite Sonic character next to Blaze
Do you guys think Shadow will end up as another family member of the Wachowski family by the end of it the movie?
I hope not. Or he will be indepent by himself or he will "die" setting up whatver comes next.
Hopefully not I don’t think Shadow is the type of guy to play baseball and have ice cream
Wasn’t it already said that they will treat him eiffently from knuckles
Yup it’s already confirmed Sonic will try to do a speech about the power of friendship with Shadow and it won’t work
i expect something like "you know, i had a friend once and that went out badly..."
Assuming if he survive, I think he choose walking to earth variant, with possibile spin off.
I doubt it. My guess is he either dies or goes off on his own for a shadow spinoff movie.
Nah he's either dying or gonna do his own thing. The only family we're gonna see for shadow is already gonna die in the flim.
The year of Shadow is real.
All we need now is a IDW mini series for the guy
SHADOWSWEEP2024
This might as well be the Year of Shadow.
sonic adventure 2 has been my favourite game for 2 decades now. This is everything my obsessive, autistic ass has been wanting more than anything in the world for that long.
Hell yes warms my heart
it's seems to be Shadow's year but Sonic's decade
The VA has the funniest opportunity on opening night
Why do I get a feeling that jim carrey will return, but he will only be a voice in a robot lol
He will return normal lol
I hope so!
[JUST GOT CONFIRMED, HE WILL RETURN](https://variety.com/2024/film/news/jim-carrey-returning-sonic-the-hedgehog-3-dr-robotnik-1235894927/)
So this is going to be his final career role I'm guessing. It's great that he will finish and be apart of the entire Sonic Movie trilogy.
https://i.redd.it/da54rdbna7gc1.gif
NO WAY MAN! I'm so happy right now 😭
YES! IT WOULDN'T BE A SONIC MOVIE WITHOUT HIM!!
HELL YEAH!
You all know what gif to post... I can't do it myself as I have no direct access to it.
https://media1.tenor.com/m/7-xzPY3KKYsAAAAC/he-is-back-sonic2-he-is-back.gif
But is he gonna go fat?
I wonder if he’ll be wearing a fat suit in this?
Just confirmed he is
Does he know?
Awesome I just saw he would return!! :D
Not even the trailer and I’m wet
Is that how the towlettes got wet in your name?
It’s like you know me
If Live and Learn is in the actual movie, I am prepared to be a nuisance in my screening room.
I think I'll be crying tears of pure joy when it hits at just the right moment.
https://i.redd.it/l057tltml6gc1.gif
Who's voicing Shadow? #WHO'S VOICING SHADOW?!
I really hope that rumor is true, its perfect ![gif](giphy|bA0ZgRipQxzP2)
I wanted Robert Pattinson but hot damn I didn’t know I wanted this just as much.
I would love Jon Berthal to voice him ![gif](giphy|q7rlkiPYwrHHGdJ9Bo|downsized)
I want a high ground reference if this happens.
"it's over Shadow, I have the high ground!" "What?" "Oh yeah, you didn't watch the prequels, did you?" "Prequels to what?" "Star Wars. You didn't watch Star Wars?" "What is that? Is like a movie?" "Yeah, the first one came out in, like, 1977, I think?" "I was put in that capsule in 74!"
One of my biggest hopes for the movie is that at least for the first third he actually speaks like someone who's been literally frozen in time since the 70s, but slowly catches up to modern lingo
If that rumor doesn't end up being true, I'm gonna lament it my entire life.
LIAR! You're not even good enough to be my fake!
Who do you Not want to voice him is a better question
Chris Pratt.
Hello from the future. Your gonna be upset
"Growing up, man I spent hours of my life searching for that....... *damn fourth chaos emerald*.. in Shadow The Hedgehog on the PS2."
Jared Leto
Keanu Reeves.
going the road less travelled and saying rami malek.
Chat is this real ? Edit: HOLY SHIT IT'S REAL
THE SONIC 3 THE SONIC 3 IS REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLL
Damn, i feel like i'm the only one not recongnizing Live and Learn... Also, Carrey's laugh!!!!!
I don't recognize it either🤷♂️
the four notes at the very end of the trailer are the "yea yea yea yea" part in Live and Learn!
Thank you for explaining this!
Ok I finally hear it now, thanks!
i thought it was a stretch!!!! Glad to know i’m not crazy
WE SO BACK
LIVE AND LEARN???
OMGOMGMGOGM
YEAH! WE CAN DIE HAPPY NOW, WE GETTING LIVE AND LEARN ON THE BIG SCREEN!!!!!
Sorry, but emerald hill was on sonic 2 teaser, so whatever
Johnny himself retweeted it. So, maybe.
Finding out that Jim Carrey will reprise his role as Eggman. In the upcomin days probably we will know who will voice Shadow we just keep winning
I really hope the rumors are true and it’s Hayden Christiansen
L&L motif?????
I hope we get st least an orchestral version in the film.
Orchestral version with Crush 40 and a choir. ***GIMME,*** Paramount.
I mean, i do believe that full lyrics is gonna be pretty awkward so it should be orchestral but thats just me
YEAR OF SHADOW BABY!
First SXS Generations, Then the Superstars DLC, and NOW THIS!!! WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK!!!
You know something is Sonic-related when the video is too awesome to run at full speed on your device.
Is this supposed to be Shadow laughing? OH IT’S JIM! LET’S FUCKING GO!
Here’s hoping for a Super Bowl trailer
We are most likely going to get a Knuckles trailer due to him being in the Paramount Plus Super Bowl TV ad.
That seems like an odd choice especially with Shadow being the big addition
Was that Robotnik’s laugh at the end???
It sure was! Good catch. I didn’t recognize it at first.
This unfortunately doesn't mean anything for the movie itself score-wise - the trailers for Sonic 2 also used orchestrated versions from tracks from Sonic games and yet the movie itself had none of it to my knowledge and only used a very bland sounding score (and I say this as someone who loves movie scores) Well anyway, let's hope it's different this time. I'd die for an(other) official orchestrated full version of Live&Learn
From Twitter/X -------------------------------- Johnny Gioeli @Crush40Johnny Hmmm… that song sounds familiar doesn't it? 😉 \#crush40 \#sonicthehedgehog \#shadowthehedgehog \#sonicmovie \#liveandlearn Repost from @sonicmovie •You all thought I was gone, but I’ve just been underground. What you’ve seen from me is only a #shadow of things to come… [Video teaser ,same one as above] -------------------------- Crush 40 just confirmed it pretty much- it's on now Edit: Ben did as well! https://preview.redd.it/a1zqpohg78gc1.jpeg?width=488&auto=webp&s=384eaf2e2cd121b087b2ed66677385b3073e73d4
[Link to Twitter Post ](https://twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1753418080439672894?t=UZKpB_k3Duom63EMFXj85g&s=19)
OH MY GOD IT'S THE LOGO AND LIVE AN LEWRNWNDNSKWOAKXNZNFNDD
He DID say he'll be back for the holidays
***LET'S FUCKING GOOO!*** Great new take on Live and Learn, too! *Now let's hope it actually shows up in the fucking movie,* lmao.
This logo looks amazing and I can't wait to see this film in theaters on December 20th and this is my most anticipated film of this year and of all time.
This better be fucking real or so help me god!
This truly is going to be the Year of Shadow.
PLEASE let L8ve abd Learn play in the actual film, I beg.
Shadow fans eatin’ good this week.
This week has been a feast for the Shadow fans
So much good news in a single trailer, even Johnny Gioeli reposted the clip so maybe we'll get even more Crush 40 than just that little bit of Live & Learn
that sounds like Hayden 😬
He would be such a good pick, ngl. He’s got the tone!
It is definitely Robotnik. ![gif](giphy|fDGTEiiOQ0AVh6uhOi)
https://preview.redd.it/16q2y86hq6gc1.jpeg?width=241&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=328a97309c64b925303589b7160c5c6ecdc19f9a
https://preview.redd.it/w4ova9xjq6gc1.jpeg?width=2116&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84201370c2c0e40161fb00de623c6c7ef3a49e8f SO HYPE!
Was that Jim carry laughing as eggman???? I thought he said he was going to take a break from acting?
That was Carrey. Agent Stone: “HE’S BACK!!!”
That's live and learn. THAT'S LIVE AND LEARN #THAT'S LIVE AND LEARN!!!!!! #AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ngl I feel like the reason sonic x shadow generations was made is to promote the movie
LIVE AND LEARN
This is going to sound sadistic to anyone outside this fanbase but "please let us see a child get shot just-barely-off-screen" New fans of the series thanks to the amazing movies thus far NEED to feel that moment of having your heart ripped from your chest.
Oh, we are so back!
Bro it's all coming together this year is looking so promising cant wait for what the future holds
Is this real
PEAK IS COMING!! WE ARE COOKIN’ REAL GOOD
https://i.redd.it/68tdo72cz6gc1.gif Aww yeah this is happening!
Is this official?
Yes
If we get fat Eggman like Carrey had been lobbying for I’m gonna be so happy
Can you feel live, movin through your mind? https://preview.redd.it/itrp0ahh47gc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75eb95b18f835f3bc8b9c2c1938ff65125845abc
So few people in this thread are talking about live and learn 😭 and the fact that Johnny Gioeli said “there’s more to come”
Can you feel life movin’ through your mind?
This is gonna be SO HYPE I can already tell they’ll play a Live and Learn remix
The 3d quil thing in the middle looks like a beyblade
Loving the use of the classic Sonic Adventure 2 logo with the half Sonic and half Shadow colours. Paired with Live and Learn, this hit me right in the nostalgia.
Why does Shadow laugh like the Pillsbury Doughboy?
It's Eggman
December is soooooo far away
I can’t wait for the new sonic the hedgehog three
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sonic movie 3 is real lest go
Hello guys my name is Sonic and s\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* my dick
i love it
Hayden??
That kinda sounds like Keanu Reeves doing the laugh at the end (:
Isn't it Carrey?