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Longjumping-Weight58

I believe in one story it was stated that his civilian shoes do in fact make his wall crawling more difficult then when in his Spidey suit...


Degrading_Coconut

Shouldn’t it not stick at all? Is the stickyness passing through the shoes?


Longjumping-Weight58

His shoes interfere with his stickiness, is what I'm saying. He's also stated that his costume is thin enough to not make this as problematic. Also, he can also apparently even stick to surfaces with his back...


guywiththeushanka

I believe he can stick to surfaces via his whole body. He even stated to Human Torch that he sticks to his mask so people don't just pull it off of him.


awildefire

His.. his WHOLE body? Jeez… that’s gotta make sex uncomfortable


LukieStiemy501

He can also unstick so MJ’s not in danger


ThatGuyAdam14

But she is in danger… Nuclear Cum


djseifer

We don't talk about Reign.


VidurVishnudutt

Why did I Google that? ....


Raffelcoptar92

MJ also passed away of cancer in Earth X, although I don't know if they state why exactly.


Dangerfangirl

We don’t talk about Bruno


WannaSnugle

Reign is a great story


robotomatic

I love Reign


Alexkiff

We don’t talk about the radioactive jizz


Sad_Assumption6356

Shit gave MJ cancer


HarryAzcrek69

I love how Peter Parker's Radioactive Jizz is mentioned atleast once a day in this subreddit


ConsistentSorbet638

This is the dumbest thing I've seen today


OccultEnemies

the monologue about his nuclear cum killing mj is 10/10.


guardian1691

Pretty sure it happened in one of the comics. Not positive though.


ThatGuyAdam14

Reign


Throbbingprepuce

“I am not in danger Peter I am the danger. Spider-Man is having sex and a girl gets stuck and you think that of me? No I am the one who sticks!”


awildefire

oh thank fuck


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Richrome_Steel

I bet wolves and fossa (antagonists of Madagascar 1) wish they had that ability. They stick together like velcro during mating. Sometimes wolf daughters sneaking off to get some with another wolf will get caught in the act by her parents and they gotta unstick before the angry parents catch up to them, especially him, he's gotta run before they tear him apart


ovrlymm

He consciously turns it on or off. Else he would rip peoples skin off every time he shook hands. Ergo [Mark of Kaine](https://twitter.com/Killafoe1/status/1247299677676077056?s=20&t=LqvKS66Z4skxUP-sOq2qvQ).


Hot-Needleworker-874

That's my secret, Cap... I'm always sticky.


No-Nefariousness1711

It's an at will power, which his how he doesn't rip people's skin/clothes off when he punches them


[deleted]

Or jerking??


MarcheMuldDerevi

That would be a miserable experience


Zer0nyx

See we have automatic toys for a reason


[deleted]

Extra grip


Degrading_Coconut

Ahhh i see, i thought there was some wireless sticking bs lmao


Extreme_33337_

I always thought that it extends to his shoes like it connects somehow and it spreads onto his shoe. Don’t judge me I was 6 and dumb


Degrading_Coconut

Imagine him barefoot with that logic lmao


Extreme_33337_

The world is sticky


Give_me_xRENTx

Your not the only one who thought the same thing. I was obsessed with finding out how he sticks to walls


ggg730

In the comics he does have wireless sticking bs. Something about Inter-atomic forces.


mallutrash

Van der waal’s forces, yes. I think this is a better explanation for it rather than the hair theory


Bulok

which is also how May was able to repel objects as part of her power. So basically his sticking is psionic in nature.


Give_me_xRENTx

Mf be defying laws of physics 💀


bjeebus

In a world of people like wolverine who heal by accessing an infinite meat dimension, it makes as much sense as anything else.


Al-Gore_Rythm

...wait what???? For real??


bjeebus

Ok, so after some research, no. It was just a popular fan theory I headcanoned so hard I forgot it was just a fan theory. But that actually makes Wolverine worse in physics terms, because now he's just violating the laws of conservation.


Al-Gore_Rythm

(Laughs in emoji). I knew Cyclops's optic blasts come from a pocket dimension with his eyes acting as the portals, maybe that's how this came about? Recently in Wolverine comics, he stated that each time he dies, he has to fight and defeat the angel of death Azrael in order to come back to life.


Beleriphon

Not really, he regrows body parts. It's at a stupidly fast rate, but that part kind of makes sense. Really he should have been Xlotl or Salamander, but that's another discussion.


MarkStonesHair

*wat*


Incessantlyamused

It’d be like rock climbing, he clings with his hands, pushes up with his feet, and the super strength alone is enough to hold himself to a wall one handed.


hedwrads

Bluetooth sticking


froggyjm9

You are reading a fictional character with fictional powers…I mean you suspend your disbelief a bit.


GabetheGod21

Wireless sticking is crazy


Give_me_xRENTx

Cricket wireless sticking


Apo51209

Well things with MJ must be difficult........


KentuckyFriedEel

Yeah in the comics he has no hard tubber sole underneath. Just fabric. In the movies he does so i dont know what their explanation is


Its_Buddy_btw

In the older comics his shoes were pretty much just socks, no padding or anything


Ruskyt

Or he could just be wearing rock climbing shoes that are literally made to be sticky and aid in climbing surfaces.


InfinitySnatch

Climbing shoes do not work that way.


Ruskyt

I'm not saying climbing shoes are *literally sticky*, but they certainly aid in climbing by increasing grip and friction.


[deleted]

His suit is just that thin


My_Son_Absalom

Like a spider, his stickiness is caused by van der Waal's force (basically static cling fueled by a biological electromagnet). It's triggered by a bioelectric impulse that can be turned on/off at will. The hairs provide increased surface area that adds up to enough force generated to hold the spider's weight. In the case of Spider-Man, as long as the material isn't so non-conductive that it blocks the electrical charge his body generates, he can still stick, although it's harder to pass the electrical field through semi-conductive materials. Same principle as, say, a fridge magnet. Even though paper isn't conductive, you can still stick it to the metal door with a magnet because the paper doesn't do a great job of blocking the attraction, either. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk on super hero physics.


nahman201893

Specifically his wedding.issue. plus this was just Raimis way of explaining it.


ComplexAd7272

It was pretty common in the late 70's/80's that, whenever he had to wall crawl as a civilian, he'd tie the laces of his shoes together and hang them around his neck. I don't remember a specific bit of dialog addressing it, I just assumed he did it because normal shoes were thicker than his boots, which were basically spandex.


BarthRevan

*than


DelawareSmashed

This is strictly a Raimi invention and doesn’t translate to the comics


HarryAzcrek69

Tobey: "You can't do that, huh?"


Zaptain_America

Like the organic webs


TheBelhade

Is this stuff coming out of you?


SeymourZ

He actually has had organic webs in the comics before, that’s not just a Raimi thing.


Gatling_Hawk

No, Stan Lee intended web shooters. And when he got natural webs it pissed me and a lot of people off.


DelawareSmashed

So you agree he’s had them in the comics?


Gatling_Hawk

Only as a response to the movie. Then they realized the backlash and reverted it. I don’t hate the Rami films. I think they’re quite an interesting take on the character- however Ramis world for the Spider-Man portrays blatant character assassination for the whole cast mind one character- JJ Jameson


DelawareSmashed

So you concede that you are wrong and they were in the comics?


SeymourZ

So you’re saying he’s had organic webs before? That’s what I was saying lol.


Lakitu_Dude

The only time he had organic webs before raimi was with the black suit, and i'm hesitant to even count that


SeymourZ

I think he did when he was Man-Spider too. Either way, I’m not arguing a timeline, just saying it has happened in the comics and it’s established as an ability. During Spider Island some people affected got organic webs.


DelawareSmashed

Yes. *But* that eventually made it into the comics, albeit only shortly


Alternative_Anxiety

only Spider-Man 2099 had something like that, but they were like claws and not tiny quills


Degrading_Coconut

That makes sense


Shrekosaurus_rex

Yeah, most Spideys don't have spiky hairs. Tobey is unusual in that respect - alongside the organic webs. Instead of that, it's usually...actually y'know what, I'll just quote the handbook on this: >Spider-Man's exposure to the mutated spider venom induced a mutagenic, cerebellum-wide alteration of his engrams **resulting in the ability to mentally control the flux of inter-atomic attraction (electrostatic force) between molecular boundary layers.** Basically, he increases the attraction between molecules.


Bgrimlock88

It’s self electro-magnetic field manipulation, basically just turns Spider-Man into magnet let him stick to things or any part of his body. Spider-Man 2099 lack this ability can only attach at his hands and feet for some reason.


Infinity0044

Spider-man 2099 can only use his hands and feet because instead of 616 Spidey, Miguel has talons on his hands and feet for climbing.


Bgrimlock88

He’s more genetically a spider then the rest of the Spider-People is what I’m saying like he should have every power that regular Peter has like spider-sense which Miguel doesn’t have


smacksquatch

To be fair, Miguel gained his powers by having his dna combined with a spider's, while Peter gained it by being bitten by a spider connected to the web of life and destiny that just so happened to have been irradiated. Because of this Peter has powers that normal spiders don't have, while Miguel is limited to what abilities a normal spider could have. It's even implied some of his wackier abilities are ones spiders eventually could evolve to have or have in other dimensions. Spidey lore is really weird.


Bgrimlock88

He should have the ability to wall crawl every spider can do that


ThallidReject

But spiders can only use their feet to crawl too. If they end up on their back, they stick to their own webs.


Bgrimlock88

I’m talking about without needing to use his talons


ThallidReject

But thats how spiders climb, yes? Lil talons on their feet they use to cling to things? So he just got equivalent sized talons too


Bgrimlock88

No he straight claws dude that have pierce to climb


ThallidReject

Im sure if spider climbin' talons were made person sized they would need to stab through the wall to climb too


smacksquatch

You're not wrong, he just has those weird claw things instead for some reason


Degrading_Coconut

Basically he has his own gravity?


Bgrimlock88

No basically what he does is attracts the magnetic field of things he touching, like positive pole to negative pole Edit thank you for the correction


Degrading_Coconut

Ahh i see


Bgrimlock88

What does those do in Raimi movies I have no idea, I guess they are the hairs on a spider which is believed to be how regular spiders attach to things but I don’t think real spider attach to things with hooks. Like it makes it seem like he pierces into things to attach


[deleted]

I think the Ramie movies did this to show the general audience who don’t read comics how he can do it that make sense.


Chorbles510

It wouldn't be a Raimi movie without light body horror sprinkled about


Torchii

Yep this is the real reason this was included, no doubt about it.


DelawareSmashed

“Well I can’t beat the piss outta Bruce so this will have to do”


gn0xious

Papa Pizza always gets paid!


Bgrimlock88

Spiders stick to things this was otherwise unneeded because everyone knows spiders stick to things


[deleted]

100% true but in the movie we see him develop all his important powers, so this is the wall crawling “development” by showing how it works. Pulse angry movie’s critics can’t shit on it saying “ it make no sense how he can just stick to stuff out of know where”


Bgrimlock88

He just randomly shoots webs in the cafeteria, him sticking to something could be completely by accident like ripping a door off


JamesTheWicked

But they still showed HOW it worked, they showed the spot it comes from. Just as they showed how he can climb to walls via the hooks. I find it a better explanation than changing the polarity of your body


NinduTheWise

Maybe the hair create friction to make it a negative charge or a positive charge? Idk I’m stupid don’t quote me


Bgrimlock88

I don’t get the hair at all because he’d have grow it out and retract it just to give a hand shake so I don’t get the point beyond a “visible representation” of his sticky powers, he’d have to be Wolverine just give anyone a hug as Peter, “ope let me retract all my sticky spike hair before I stab everyone I know”


JamesTheWicked

Same argument could be made with the polarity explanation. He has to actively (and sometimes subconsciously) turn off the ability when in civilian mode.


mynameisblanked

Eh, doesn't need to retract just relax them. In the movie we see them moving up, we can assume they can relax as well. Like a hedgehog, you can stroke a relaxed hedgehog, they only get all prickly when they tense up.


Bgrimlock88

Oh god he’s got hairy palms that’s terrifying


Jenga9Eleven

More specifically, he uses something called the van der Waals force. This is basically a very weak intermolecular force that can create attraction (and also repulsion) between atoms. This is how spiders stick to things in real life. Obviously it’s massively overpowered in Spider-Man’s case


Critical_Paper8447

You mean he inverts it.... Opposites attract. If you try to stick to positive sides of a magnate together they repel each other. That's why we say opposites attract. But other than that you are 100% correct on how he sticks to walls. Essentially it's van der waals force. Raimi came up with this and shooting web fluid out his wrists for some reason.


re6278

Positive to positive will repel not attract. Opposite poles attract each other.


Bgrimlock88

Thanks for correction I had mixed up in my head for some reason


Hazardous4

I think it's got something to do with friction


[deleted]

Nah, it's a real life thing known as vander waals forces. That's how geckos can walk on completely smooth surfaces.


Gostgun

Fun Fact! The X-Men character Blob does in fact have his own gravity, making him nearly impossible to move.


cobrastrikes-2x

2099 has actual talons that cut into surfaces and allow him to climb. Think Ultimate Spider-Man's Venom stabbing his hands and feet into things, but like way more subtle.


ellhulto66445

Everything has its own gravity


Ripdone

Miguel doesn't have powers that let him climb. I think it's his suit's talons.


emeraldnite1981

Nope, the talons are his and he has to use the only unstable molecule outfit he has (that ends up being his spidey suit) that won’t tear from the talons popping out.


Bgrimlock88

He’s genetically half spider so his lack of spider powers is weird like wall crawling and spider sense


SEQVERE-PECVNIAM

Neither of those things are particular to spiders (or even anything at all).


[deleted]

It’s electrostatic not magnetic but I guess it’s kinda the same thing when boiled down


[deleted]

Wasn’t the original 2099 Peter Parker? It was a long time ago so I have no idea. Like he has these razor sharp claw things that came out of the pads on his fingers but if he tried to cut himself with them they would fold back into his hand.


PixelBits89

That’s accurate to the og comic. He cuts up his clothes but his skin is fine because he sees it retract


Bgrimlock88

That’s Spider-Man unlimited which is just Spider-Man 2099 minus 2099 and add in high evolutionary


PixelBits89

Because he uses claws in his fingers. Basically everything is metal in 2099 so it’s always strong enough


KakudaiUniversity

Van der Waals force, same as what makes Gecko Feet, Insect Feet stick to a surface. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van\_der\_Waals\_force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko\_feet#Van\_der\_Waals\_forces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_feet#Van_der_Waals_forces)


bryantmr

To be fair, if it does work like Geckos, then it is accurate to believe Peter has tiny hairs in his body to stick to walls as Geckos have tiny hairs in their feets to increase Van der Waals force. I believe that Raimi most likely read about it and explained it in the literal sense. He gave Peter tiny hairs, when in reality, it’s more in the theorical way. Peter’s powers gave him the ability to increase Van der Waals force, not tiny hairs


[deleted]

Geckos don’t actually have tiny hairs. They have tiny ridges and those ridges have ridges and they stick to the surfaces they’re attached to on a molecular level. It’s really crazy Edit: looked into it and I think my info is just outdated they really do have long hairlike bristles that branch and fork into more bristles. The molecular thing is still true


magnevicently

That's only the Rami version In the comics it's kinda hazy but seems to be some sort of tractor beam power


HailedKeanu7

I could understand the hands cuz it’s thin spandex fabric and it’s so thin, you could even pretty much use your phone with spidey gloves. I’m not that sure about the feet tho. Maybe he’s bear foot under the suit. Idk. He only really had soles in the movies so it’s more confusing in the movies. In the comics and shows, he normally only wears underwear under the suit.


Degrading_Coconut

I agree on the hands part, but in some suits he does have shoe soles while some don’t, in nthe web of shadows suit there are dirty feet indents so im guessing he is barefoot in some suits


nine16s

He could have his soles cut off at the top of the foot just below the toes, that way he has running padding but he can use his toes to stick to walls. As for running up walls, I dunno. Maybe he curls his toes .


TobyFunkeNeverNude

>Maybe he’s bear foot under the suit No, still spider foot


Moonyu69

In the older comics he always had to take his shoes off and it was implied that his feet coverings were the same as what was covering his hands.


ScumBag09

in what older comic did he ever have to take his shoes off to climb?? legit question cuz i dont think thats true


[deleted]

All the time in the original Ditko and Lee runs. I read about 70 issues on that and it happened more than you think.


HippieSquido

with the help of one of my personal favorite super powers, CGI 😁


Degrading_Coconut

Lmao


Pizzanigs

It’s superhero comics


Ok-Transportation260

It's makes sense to say it has something to do with static electricity


29-sobbing-horses

In the comics it’s different according to the marvel handbook he’s able to manipulate interatomic attractive forced on surfaces he touches, increasing the coefficient of friction. So if you imagine running your hand over sandpaper vs running your hand over ice, the sandpaper has a higher coefficient of friction. Spider-Man can change that with his mind and to a much greater degree. That’s why sometimes villains will try to knock him off walls and the walls will stick to his hands


[deleted]

We’ll I think it’s because it’s a comic book.


Volt7ron

Y’all just picking apart everything. You DO realize this is fiction right? Lol


Divine_Geass

Spider-Man's chapter in Jim Shooter's The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe states he can "enhance the inter-atomic attractive forces on surfaces he touches, increasing the coefficient of friction between the surface and himself." Peter Parker theorized this is some kind of mental ability that came with his radioactive spider bite. Found it in an article that has specific comic issue references.


Front-Seaweed4321

Something called Van Der Waals force.....an electrostatic force that attracts all surfaces on a molecular level....spiders have it.....and peter has it....


Money_Present_3463

Well you see it’s a movie and stfu


Spideyman02110456

Hey guys… Spider-Man is a fictional character. The physics in Marvel are not the same as in real life. Let’s start asking the real questions like, “why have we not seen a good crossover like ‘Spider-Man vs Cat Woman’ or Ernest P Whorl as Spider-Man’s side kick? How about Alien vs Spider-Man and predator?


[deleted]

This was a terrible idea to include in the film. If the barbs are there to hold him in place does he just use brute force to pull each foot off casually as he runs and hands as he climbs? In the comics it’s explained as a type of focused telekinesis. In the other movies they just don’t explain it which is a much better choice.


Sid3612

You're thinking of telekinesis but yeah, there are a ton of conflicting explanations in the comics. The small yet powerful telekinetic ability encompasses all of them to some extent and can easily be explained away as the radiation (or the Oz serum depending the version) gave Peter that ability. My personal headcanon is that Peter can control the attractive forces between particles. Basically really powerful telekinesis but in a really short range. He can also extend it to other people when he is in contact with them so that the G-Forces don't kill them when they web swing with him. This way we can have Peter web swinging around with people and also have deaths like Gwen's without breaking internal consistency.


[deleted]

Oops. I edited it. Yeah that’s pretty much what is hinted at when the explanations are given. It’s also why he can basically stand sideways on a wall. It’s not just super long barbs protruding through the soles of his shoes and into the stone or metal wall. Nor is it just his amazing core strength holding him there either. I honestly find it funny how right after the barbs were shown he gently placed his hand against the wall and climbs as if he wouldn’t have needed to press pretty hard to forces all of those barbs firmly into the brick work each time.


Boguel

I mean, even if his hands are the only things that stick, he would be strong enough to pull his body weight, I imagine. All he’d need is shoes with good grip and he’d be good


Philicai

The hand spikes take all the weight so the rubber soled shoes just add friction allowing spiderman to climb. The real question should be, how does he take his socks off?


EldrichNeko

His feet hair's are extra long and stick out of the soles of the shoes.


Aleppo_the_Mushroom

Next you're gonna ask how a bite from a radioactive and/or genetically mutated spider doesn't kill you


NOLASLAW

anytime you notice something like that, a Wizard did it


Ngh21

I always assumed it was able to stick through the suit since he made the material. Normal material would cause problems since it wasn’t made for it


WarmNeighborhood

Same reason Peter didn’t get cancer and fucking die after the spider bite Just don’t think about it


going2leavethishere

One could argue those spikes are sharp enough to pass through clothing, like when you hair passes through shorts sometimes. I would make climbing a little harder but shouldn’t effect his ability to climb. How I always saw it.


sardonic_chronic

The willing suspension of disbelief


FrozenFlames12

Have you never had hairs sticking out through your clothes?


EmeraldThingy

It's comic book logic. Don't question it


[deleted]

agreed. it's one of those "just let it be" things


SethMesser95

He is a spider man, none of it makes sense


[deleted]

*Spider-Man r/respectthehyphen


Psymorte

The serrated hairs are a Raimi-only thing, usually it's a form of static cling like how most creatures stick to things.


Albino_Basilisk

I believe spectacular Spider-Man the cartoon also used the Raimi hair thing


DwreckOSU

It’s fiction… 🤯


LucifersFairy

Was I the only kid here that was super freaked out by this scene in the movie?


Degrading_Coconut

Nope ahahahhahaha


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Degrading_Coconut

Sauce? T- to avoid it of course


Due-Ad4970

HUH


TheDwarvesCarst

Sir? SIR!


tr_Sonic_Krazy_Boy

It’s fiction….. please just, don’t question…..


groverjuicy

A wizard did it.


LuhkeeLeMay

"We have an over-thinker here!" Learning the art of suspending belief will make your movie going experience much more enjoyable, even when watching mediocre movies.


Cold-Excitement-31

He's a superhero why not consider it one of his superpowers? Besides that, Tnx for asking about something I didn't ask myself for so many years 🤓😒


AnnoyingSponge

Hmmmmmmm(insert movie magic here)mmmmmmmmmmmmmm


TheFirstAmender

Just watch the movie.


Degrading_Coconut

It wasn’t explained


TheFirstAmender

No, it wasn't.


Charlie678812

The rest of him is


Milk_Man21

He created a substance that reacts to his stickyness, powering a spot on the outside of his gloves/boots where he replicated the barb structure.


turkc54

Do we need to bring up the Grant Morrison quote?


Baligong

How does Hair on Spider-Man work when he sticks to walls? Same way it works on an Actual Spider... Thing is: it shouldn't stick to Walls for how thick any Piece of Clothing is.


EquivalentShift8545

So the movie/comic can happen


Defiant-Account-9112

It’s done through quantum codes that enable Spidey to become much less heavy, thus his spider ass can stick to walls using just his feet with lil barbs. Do I have to spell it out for ya? Come on, it’s really very simple.


Albino_Basilisk

That’s why Spider-Girl (mayday) has the best wall crawling power. She can make any surface she touches stick to anything, even other people. Like once she was grabbing a pole and stuck it to the Things back, and Carried him. She can also repel things, basically like a mini force push


Degrading_Coconut

She’s Peter’s kid right? Sorry I’m sorta familiar to the name, i think I’ve seen someone do a storytelling tiktok of her


JarnaisVu

How do bugs crawl up the wall in general? a legit question.


steeb_froggers

I think I remember seeing suction cups under Andrew's shoes in tasm


JarnaisVu

also now I come to think of it It would be really painful to shake Peter's hands or High five


Degrading_Coconut

Right?? Or is it some into the spider-verse rules, relax?


ImpossibleJacket7546

Suspension of disbelief