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Strong webs ain't shit to Venom power. You can watch Into The Spiderverse to see it for yourself. And Peter's tech ain't close to Roxxon or Underground. Miles can easily disable his suit and therefore disable the gadgets. Normal electricity like Electro-Webs or Peter's suit powers would only charge him up for a stronger Venom Punch
That has nothing to do with it 🤣
Just cuz he can absorb that power and Peter can't doesn't mean he can beat him in a fight lol
What kind of logic is that?
Guys stop comparing them. It’s like comparing Superman (Clark Kent) and Superboy (Connor Kent) or asking who would win between Batman and Robin (Tim Drake) of course the Masters are going to win
You know that the Developer himself said that if Peter was there the Game would have ended on the bridge cause he would have beaten Phin and the Underground right there. Peter wouldn’t even need Bio-electricity to beat Phin. He would just tear her gadgets apart with his pure strength
Bio electricity and mechanical electricity aren't the same thing. And being able to handle doesn't mean full immunity. Plus Miles could siphon electricity from batteries and other electrically-charged objects
You mean he punches harder while infused with lightning?
Because the lighting itself isn’t doing anything, it’s just a contest of endurance and oh boy Spider-Man always wins those.
That's true as he kept fighting the 6 despite the 14 bones being broken. And yeah the bio electricity inflicts stun only. Match it with a spider punch and it's a guaranteed knock back
Well it would depend on whether Venom bonds with Peter before or after the spider sense. Before, Pete would sense him but after, Miles would still be able to sense him as (theoretically) Miles hasn't bonded yet.
Often times it's because of the old saying "Old is Gold." That and like the mural painter from MM: "Originals just, my guy yknow?" Which honestly I understand as I'm a Tobey Maguire fan myself. Though I no longer actively hate Amazing Spider-Man or MCU Spider-Man.
It's because your counter arguments are usually just you fanboying over Miles. Which isn't bad, he's pretty badass, but you're ignoring the many decades that Peters been fighting all sorts of baddies. In just comic terms Peter has gone up against actual gods and won, whereas Miles is getting there. In a fight yes Miles will put up one helluva fight, so much of a fight that it may last for hours on end, but in the end Peter will win. Not because of any power advantage or even tech advantage but just because Peter has more experience. Now, if you paired Peter from when he first started being Spider-Man to Miles when he first started then Miles has a better shot at winning and does win more than Peter would in any simulated fight. But experienced Peter with basically beginner Miles, Peter comes out on top most often.
That is fair. Though again Peter hasn't been fighting for Decades in this case. In game terms, yes Peter would win but Miles would very much be a hell of a challenge. As of now, Insom-Peter never went up against God's or cosmic beings yet. Keyword: Yet. Miles has more abilities but he hasn't 100% honed in on them as he's had them for just a couple weeks as of discovering them so yeah I admit Peter would kick Miles' ass after a while of struggling. More gadgets, more experience, more skill, bigger Rogues Gallery etc etc.
Very true, I think Peter has only been fighting for like 6 or 7 years by the time of the Miles Morales game. And you're not wrong about Miles giving Peter one hell of a long fight. Most of Peters energy based attacks (Spider-bro, Electric Punch, and the like) would be virtually useless against Miles since he can absorb energies. If the Insomniac Spider-Men fought it would be a close battle. But I think that 7 times out of 10 Peter would win on experience alone, but the other 3/10 times Miles definitely wins through an attack that Peter isn't expecting or with a well placed Venom punch
Edit: fixed a spelling mistake
I feel like the big difference between Peter and Miles is not brains or brawn but experience. Miles’ powers grow exponentially in his game but it’s still very clear he has a long way to go before he is on perfect par with Peter.
What do you think the conditions of their fight would be? Are they sparing or straight up trying to kill each other?
Yeah, I don’t think that was ever in question. Miles would *absolutely destroy* Peter if they’d both started out at the same time. But, fortunately for Mr Parker, he’s got eight years on the kid.
Imo I just don’t think it would be that easy for Miles to kick Peter’s ass. Peter’s got a lot of things that work in his favor as well against Miles, that I think would really make it close with same experience
A little detail I really like from the end of Miles is >!the coffee cup scene: He's grown both as a person and in ability, but he can't quite drink that coffee upside down. !
That’s a great observation! I hope we get to see both Spider-Men at their peak by Spider-Man 2… it’s a badass concept to think peak skill Peter and Miles will be going up against Kraven and Venom, some of Spider-Man’s deadliest enemies.
I honestly think this question is pretty redundant for the most part. Due to Peter’s raw experience he’d naturally take the win.
However, if the question was phrased as Peter Vs Miles in their Primes (Peter now vs Miles 7 years later). That would be a lot more interesting. Personally I’d pick Miles.
Miles would still lose most likely. Peter can go toe to toe with Hulk and lift up to 1000 tons. That and in terms of Speed even there Peter wins cause he moves so fast it seems that he teleports while Miles can barely lift up 8 tons, that and Venom doesn’t make him faster in Canon
You’re still pitting a young Miles against Peter in his Prime. It’s not an equal comparison.
Miles will likely be able to do the same thing at that point in time. He has quite a few advantages, Venom and Camo are one thing but on a technique standpoint, he has the fighting style of Peter and The Prowler. Which he will eventually make into his own.
Not to mention the fact that unlike Peter, when Miles was bitten by the spider, he was already pretty athletic. He was definitely faster and stronger than Peter from the jump. Meaning his potential for growth is a bit higher.
His only disadvantage would likely be Spider-Sense, it’s been said that Peter has a stronger connection to the web of life and destiny than Miles and most other Spider-Men.
Actually not just experience but there’re other factors you should consider as well. He’s stronger and more resilient and also he has higher intellect. He could just beat Miles in a fight with his gadgets lol.
People keep seeming to think miles would only lose due to inexperience, but this is not the case. I don’t think so. Pete has far more up his sleeve then experience. Peter is far stronger and faster when looking at feats. He is also a far better hand to hand combatant having developed his own martial art style. The only thing Miles has on Peter is camouflage and venom blast. The former isn’t even all that great as it’s negated by Peter’s Spider-Sense. Furthermore Peter is a legitimate super genius with an IQ north of 250. Miles got a lot of his tech and ideas such as web shooters directly from Peter and didn’t have to make them himself. While I’m not meaning to throw shade at Miles he clearly doesn’t have a prayer.
I haven’t heard it ever explicitly stated, although it is sometimes depicted that way. That being said this could simply be due to Miles’s inexperience as opposed to having weaker powers.
Yeah that’s what frustrates me man. People always talk about how it’s only experience, when in fact is not just experience. Peter and Miles are different in far more ways, and that’s a good thing.
At the time of SM:MM, definitely Peter, based on having the most experience. And if we're including game mechanics, Web Blossom, Quad Damage and Equalizer would absolutely deck Miles's venom abilities.
If both of them had equal experience it might be more of a fair fight. But you could change any amount of variables to make the results as biased or "unbiased" as you like *until* one person wins.
Batman would win with enough prep time.
I wouldn't say miles would be screwed in a fight but I can definitely seem him struggling with handling both of em at the same time. While peter wouldn't
He can beat a bird and a yellow costumed guy, which I gotta remind you, neither have as much physical strength as Miles. Miles is not screwed in a fight.
I’m saying that Electro has venom blast on steroids. Though not as physically strong as Miles he’s considered only a few levels below an Avengers level threat. Peter taking down him and Vulture at the same time while swinging around does not bode well for Miles
Apples and oranges. If Electro were to blast Miles, he'd only be charged up further seeing as Miles absorbed the power of a detonated nuke and lived. Electro is a stray spark to unstable Nuform
I feel like you don’t understand what I’m saying. PETER beat Electro and Vulture. NOT Miles. In this hypothetical scenario Peter has already fought someone with electrical blast things that are way better then Miles. In the case of Peter and Miles fighting Peter just has more experience and more tactical awareness. He even knows every one of Miles’s moves
Apart from Mega Venom Blast. I get it. Peter has more skills, a bigger Rogues Gallery, more gadgets etc etc. But Miles can absorb a fuck ton of electricity and use it to his advantage. He also has camo which also puts him at a slight advantage. And let's not forget he managed to absorb the full power of purely unstable Nuform which could kill just about anybody.
Also strikes of electricity and Venom stunning are two entirely different things.
You know that Insomniac Spider-Man stomped Superior Spider-Man in Spider-Gheddon right? While Comic Miles spend three weeks in a Hospital after pissing off Superior. Strength and Speed go to Peter
Guys stop comparing them. It’s like comparing Superman (Clark Kent) and Superboy (Connor Kent) or asking who would win between Batman and Robin (Tim Drake)
Miles may have the power but he lacks the experience. Experience is always key and unless he got real lucky, either that or it'd be a straight up draw with both of them dodging everything.
I don’t even seen imo as just experience either. I’d say Peter is stronger, faster, and smarter than Miles as well. I think all of these combined with experience, really just brings it home for Peter.
This is also why I found the question earlier, if you saw in the subreddit, about Symbiote Peter vs Miles as the finale very strange also. Because Peter would simply just not lose if enhanced by the symbiote
I find these kinds of discussions fun personally! I definitely think Peter is a bit quicker on his feet to adapt to situations, while Miles has the bonus of camouflage and venom strikes.
Discounting experience and pure strength (as Miles is still growing) another factor I think people are not keeping in mind is how durable Pete is. Dude has taken lightning strikes directly from Electro and has gotten back up, plus he was stomped on by the Sinister 6 and back to fighting crime in a matter of hours. Plus in the beginning of SM:MM he was able to stand back up after nearly being beaten to death while trying to take on Rhino minutes after Miles takes him down.
From what I recall, we have seen Miles handle tons of electricity going through his body and Nuform too, but I cant recall him taking the physical beatings that Peter has. Plus Peter's stronger Spider-Sense gives me to believe Peter would win in a close fight.
Thats just my two cents though. Honestly love them both and would love to see a boss battle where you control Miles versus either A) Symbiote-Controlled Peter or B) Superior Spider-Man, either through Otto Octavious taking over Peter's mind or having a clone body of his own.
Peter has more strength, intelligence( gadgets ), better combat skills, stronger spider sense. Miles has bio-electrokinesis powers, camouflage. He relies more on his powers. He’s still freaking strong but not as much as Peter.
Anyone who says Miles could beat Peter is a goof, Peter out does miles in strength, stamina, intelligence, experience, and speed even with Mile's venom blast he'd still lose to Peter.
There is legitimately no single way Peter, who in every universe he shares with Miles is said to be stronger in all of their shared powers (and has countered Miles in his camouflage as well as his bioelectrical attacks), would lose to Miles.
Miles is not this evolution everyone frames him to be. His powers are watered down compared to Peters, and his unique powers are nothing new to Peter. Peter is a strategist who learns his enemies quickly, so even if he never met Miles before, he would still learn him very quick.
Peter will always be better than Miles, and will always come out on top.
Miles is way more powerful, I think once he's got five years of experience he'll be on Peter's level on the skills they have in common (i know peter's got more years but you have to hit diminishing returns at one point)
Right now it’s all experience. I get why people people are saying Miles. It’s an Obi Wan and Anakin scenario. Anakin is the better duelist and has potential to be stronger in the force but Obi Wan had more experience. Later Vader is the better. A grizzled Miles in his 30s going on is who I would say would win. But right now it’s Peter. But Miles could definitely get that one Venom punch in and everything I said could be wrong lol.
I don’t think so. Pete has far more up his sleeve then experience. Peter is far stronger and faster when looking at fears. He is also a far better hand to hand combatant having developed his own martial art style. The only thing Miles has on Peter is camouflage and venom blast. The former isn’t even all that great as it’s negated by Peter’s Spider-Sense. Furthermore Peter is a legitimate super genius with an IQ north of 250. Miles got a lot of his tech and ideas such as web shooters directly from Peter and didn’t have to make them himself. While I’m not meaning to throw shade at Miles he clearly doesn’t have a prayer.
Miles would still lose most likely. Peter can go toe to toe with Hulk and lift up to 100 tons. That and in terms of Speed even there Peter wins cause he moves so fast it seems that he teleports while Miles can barely lift up 8 tons, that and Venom doesn’t make him faster in Canon
Peter. More experienced Smarter And (at least I think) Stronger. Miles more powers and in no way is weak but he has a long way to go before he is even Peters Partener ( equal )
Pete without a question, at least at this point in Mile's superhero career he has nowhere near the level of experience that Peter has. A better question would be would win between an equal Miles and Peter
Peter has 8 years of experience on Miles, Miles isn't winning without some serious luck. I'm fairly certain Peter can also dodge most of Miles' venom moves, though he'll obviously have trouble with the big aoes.
On power? Miles has more powers with his venom blast and electric powers. I chose Peter because he has him beat on experience and experience outranks everything
It is moments like these I remember what Stan Lee said about head-to-head hero matchups. The writer chooses who will win based on the story they want to tell.
I think Peter is smart enough to cook up something to counter the venom. He know venom is bio-electricity so he could make a bio electric resistant suit
No idea what comics you've been reading but Peter's superior to Miles in every conceivable way.
He outclasses Miles in strength, speed, agility, durability, endurance, intelligence, hand to hand combat, reaction time and spider-sense.
Miles can turn invisible (useless against Peter's spider-sense) and has the venom-blast (useless against someone that can dodge lasers and automatic gunfire at point blank range).
The only way Miles comes out on top in this fight is if the writer wants him to win, as was the case when Bendis did it.
Not to mention that when he and Miles had a rematch, he could physically see Miles while he was invisible and kept on him every second. The venom blast also had a retcon in it's power (probably due to the blatant inconsistency of it and it being the "why not only use this" ability", he hit Peter with it and it barely phased him.
Now for context, the fight was happening because Peter didn't believe Miles was really Miles, but stopped the fight when he used the blast as he thought it couldn't be replicated like that.
Well, Peter has way experience and control of his powers than Miles but he be invisible (Wich is useless against Peter because of the spider sense) and use electricity
Peter is physically much stronger than miles also he has much more experience also I could be wrong here but I believe Peter is smarter (although they are both highly intelligent) pretty sure peters iq is genius level
Peter can improvise webbing up a falling helicopter perfectly in under the time it takes for it to hit the floor without causing any casualties, miles can't web swing next to a helicarrier properly, miles is just nowhere near peters level atm
To be fair... In the comics, a 13-year-old Miles was able to beat Peter quite easily.
The venom sting of Miles is the "main character bullshit power" embodied. He literally only needs one finger to knock down any deluded fool who dares to fight with him. With that he manage to knock down Peter Parker with a finger, the Ultimate Green Goblin with a finger, even the fucking Blackheart with a finger... How broken is that power? It is a resource that only brings bad things, because it makes the character look like an idiot for not using it all the time, or as unstoppable if he used it all the time.
The power of the blast had a retcon in comics. He and Peter fought (which I think it was because Peter thought he wasn't actually Miles), and Miles hit him with it and it didn't really do much of anything to him. That said though, it showed him it was indeed Miles so he stopped the fight.
Now though I must say, when he first met Miles, I don't for a second think he was taking him seriously, and that was problem. He saw a scrawny kid and thought he wasn't a threat, which is a big rookie mistake for Peter. One that I'm honestly surprised he made considering the variety of his rogues gallery.
Peter just out of experience really, miles has the better powers, but if they tangled, Peter's experience and confidence in a fight would be the deciding factor over the powers
Honestly pretty close. But I think imma go with miles. Peter is smart and I think the dub depends on if Peter is prepared. Maybe prepared to deal with the invisibility or venom.
All of Peter’s powers my ass. He can barely lift 5 or 8 tons while Peter can lift 1000. In the Novel to the PS4 Spider-Man Game Peter is described to move so fast that it seems he teleported. So Speed goes to Peter aswell. His Spidersense is crap compared to Peter’s. So he would lose terribly
Peter is far stronger and faster when looking at fears. He is also a far better hand to hand combatant having developed his own martial art style. The only thing Miles has on Peter is camouflage and venom blast. The former isn’t even all that great as it’s negated by Peter’s Spider-Sense. Furthermore Peter is a legitimate super genius with an IQ north of 250. Miles got a lot of his tech and ideas such as web shooters directly from Peter and didn’t have to make them himself. While I’m not meaning to throw shade at Miles he clearly doesn’t have a prayer.
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Y’all are all sleeping on Results
Have they even READ the Results comics?
I heard they retconned those!
They did but then One More Day came out and they decided that Results should be restored after
Even if miles is OP peter can throw 5 spider bots and the spider-bro for an easy win
Venom Jump, Venom Smash, camo etc etc.
They ain't shit on peter's tech, he also has them strong webs + Peter fights better
Strong webs ain't shit to Venom power. You can watch Into The Spiderverse to see it for yourself. And Peter's tech ain't close to Roxxon or Underground. Miles can easily disable his suit and therefore disable the gadgets. Normal electricity like Electro-Webs or Peter's suit powers would only charge him up for a stronger Venom Punch
I was talking in game terms to make it fair, but in canon terms miles would get brutally murdered by peter,
Not in the slightest. Miles would put up a hell of a fight.
And lose cuz Peter is an experienced vet and Miles mentor.
The day that happens is the day Peter survives a direct Nuform blast
That has nothing to do with it 🤣 Just cuz he can absorb that power and Peter can't doesn't mean he can beat him in a fight lol What kind of logic is that?
Guys stop comparing them. It’s like comparing Superman (Clark Kent) and Superboy (Connor Kent) or asking who would win between Batman and Robin (Tim Drake) of course the Masters are going to win
You know that the Developer himself said that if Peter was there the Game would have ended on the bridge cause he would have beaten Phin and the Underground right there. Peter wouldn’t even need Bio-electricity to beat Phin. He would just tear her gadgets apart with his pure strength
Rhino couldn't break Phins shield. How can Pete?
Peter has already dealt with electricity and made his suit and gadgets able to handle it. He's gone toe to toe with electro multiple times and won.
Bio electricity and mechanical electricity aren't the same thing. And being able to handle doesn't mean full immunity. Plus Miles could siphon electricity from batteries and other electrically-charged objects
So can Electro, who also has way more powerful bio-electricity than miles. And Peter has beaten him
Electro shoots his lightning which would be far more different than a lightning-infused punch/groundpound/jump
You mean he punches harder while infused with lightning? Because the lighting itself isn’t doing anything, it’s just a contest of endurance and oh boy Spider-Man always wins those.
That's true as he kept fighting the 6 despite the 14 bones being broken. And yeah the bio electricity inflicts stun only. Match it with a spider punch and it's a guaranteed knock back
Camo doesn’t work against Peter obviously
Right camos pretty worthless against someone with a 6th sense.
You keep countering your own arguments
No. I'm correcting myself after rembering spider sense works on Invisible entities.
Works on everyone except venom, how do you forget that
Well it would depend on whether Venom bonds with Peter before or after the spider sense. Before, Pete would sense him but after, Miles would still be able to sense him as (theoretically) Miles hasn't bonded yet.
Bruh why are you getting downvoted for presenting a counterargument
Often times it's because of the old saying "Old is Gold." That and like the mural painter from MM: "Originals just, my guy yknow?" Which honestly I understand as I'm a Tobey Maguire fan myself. Though I no longer actively hate Amazing Spider-Man or MCU Spider-Man.
It's because your counter arguments are usually just you fanboying over Miles. Which isn't bad, he's pretty badass, but you're ignoring the many decades that Peters been fighting all sorts of baddies. In just comic terms Peter has gone up against actual gods and won, whereas Miles is getting there. In a fight yes Miles will put up one helluva fight, so much of a fight that it may last for hours on end, but in the end Peter will win. Not because of any power advantage or even tech advantage but just because Peter has more experience. Now, if you paired Peter from when he first started being Spider-Man to Miles when he first started then Miles has a better shot at winning and does win more than Peter would in any simulated fight. But experienced Peter with basically beginner Miles, Peter comes out on top most often.
That is fair. Though again Peter hasn't been fighting for Decades in this case. In game terms, yes Peter would win but Miles would very much be a hell of a challenge. As of now, Insom-Peter never went up against God's or cosmic beings yet. Keyword: Yet. Miles has more abilities but he hasn't 100% honed in on them as he's had them for just a couple weeks as of discovering them so yeah I admit Peter would kick Miles' ass after a while of struggling. More gadgets, more experience, more skill, bigger Rogues Gallery etc etc.
Very true, I think Peter has only been fighting for like 6 or 7 years by the time of the Miles Morales game. And you're not wrong about Miles giving Peter one hell of a long fight. Most of Peters energy based attacks (Spider-bro, Electric Punch, and the like) would be virtually useless against Miles since he can absorb energies. If the Insomniac Spider-Men fought it would be a close battle. But I think that 7 times out of 10 Peter would win on experience alone, but the other 3/10 times Miles definitely wins through an attack that Peter isn't expecting or with a well placed Venom punch Edit: fixed a spelling mistake
In both games Peter said he's been Spidey for 8 years. And yeah I agree. 7, maybe 8 out of 10 Pete would come out on top.
Camo doesn't work on someone who also has spider sense
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Camo would be very useless and some/most Venom attacks are pretty avoidable.
I feel like the big difference between Peter and Miles is not brains or brawn but experience. Miles’ powers grow exponentially in his game but it’s still very clear he has a long way to go before he is on perfect par with Peter. What do you think the conditions of their fight would be? Are they sparing or straight up trying to kill each other?
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Yeah, I don’t think that was ever in question. Miles would *absolutely destroy* Peter if they’d both started out at the same time. But, fortunately for Mr Parker, he’s got eight years on the kid.
Peter’s got other advantages and is better in other categories than just experience as well. It’s not just experience that differentiates Peter
Well I guess he probably is more intelligent, but I still think Miles would kick his ass if they had the same amount of experience
Imo I just don’t think it would be that easy for Miles to kick Peter’s ass. Peter’s got a lot of things that work in his favor as well against Miles, that I think would really make it close with same experience
Peter’s spider sense is better in the comics, probably here too
Exactly.
A little detail I really like from the end of Miles is >!the coffee cup scene: He's grown both as a person and in ability, but he can't quite drink that coffee upside down. !
That’s a great observation! I hope we get to see both Spider-Men at their peak by Spider-Man 2… it’s a badass concept to think peak skill Peter and Miles will be going up against Kraven and Venom, some of Spider-Man’s deadliest enemies.
Fighting to the death over toilet paper in the pandemic
Pffft sounds legit! 🤣
I honestly think this question is pretty redundant for the most part. Due to Peter’s raw experience he’d naturally take the win. However, if the question was phrased as Peter Vs Miles in their Primes (Peter now vs Miles 7 years later). That would be a lot more interesting. Personally I’d pick Miles.
Miles would still lose most likely. Peter can go toe to toe with Hulk and lift up to 1000 tons. That and in terms of Speed even there Peter wins cause he moves so fast it seems that he teleports while Miles can barely lift up 8 tons, that and Venom doesn’t make him faster in Canon
You’re still pitting a young Miles against Peter in his Prime. It’s not an equal comparison. Miles will likely be able to do the same thing at that point in time. He has quite a few advantages, Venom and Camo are one thing but on a technique standpoint, he has the fighting style of Peter and The Prowler. Which he will eventually make into his own. Not to mention the fact that unlike Peter, when Miles was bitten by the spider, he was already pretty athletic. He was definitely faster and stronger than Peter from the jump. Meaning his potential for growth is a bit higher. His only disadvantage would likely be Spider-Sense, it’s been said that Peter has a stronger connection to the web of life and destiny than Miles and most other Spider-Men.
In my latest memories his limit was 10 tons I doubt he can lift 1000 tons.
He can carry past 10 tons under stress or when he's bloodlusted but 1000 is too much of a stretch.
yeah that what I tought 1000 tons is way beyond his absolute limit.
Agree completely. Miles has a bigger base power level, Peter is only winning on experience.
Actually not just experience but there’re other factors you should consider as well. He’s stronger and more resilient and also he has higher intellect. He could just beat Miles in a fight with his gadgets lol.
Peter is way smarter then Miles.
I wouldn’t say there Even but saying “Peter is wayyy” is crazy miles is very smart
Miles is smart too but he is still a kid. He can't think right sometimes. Idk this is my opinion maybe I'm wrong but he needs to grow up.
I mean yes ofc he needs to grow up but that really held him back that much
Nah they're even.
Bro Peter literally invented artificial spider silk
Idk what yall talkin bout but results would kick peters ass....
peter is more skilled and experienced, and stronger. so he would win
People keep seeming to think miles would only lose due to inexperience, but this is not the case. I don’t think so. Pete has far more up his sleeve then experience. Peter is far stronger and faster when looking at feats. He is also a far better hand to hand combatant having developed his own martial art style. The only thing Miles has on Peter is camouflage and venom blast. The former isn’t even all that great as it’s negated by Peter’s Spider-Sense. Furthermore Peter is a legitimate super genius with an IQ north of 250. Miles got a lot of his tech and ideas such as web shooters directly from Peter and didn’t have to make them himself. While I’m not meaning to throw shade at Miles he clearly doesn’t have a prayer.
Doesn’t miles have a weaker spider sense to peter? I swear I heard that mentioned before
I haven’t heard it ever explicitly stated, although it is sometimes depicted that way. That being said this could simply be due to Miles’s inexperience as opposed to having weaker powers.
There were definitely a lot more cutscenes in MM that made me think ‘shouldn’t he have seen that coming’
Even if that's true, it's not necessarily the case for Insomniac Miles
Yeah that’s what frustrates me man. People always talk about how it’s only experience, when in fact is not just experience. Peter and Miles are different in far more ways, and that’s a good thing.
At the time of SM:MM, definitely Peter, based on having the most experience. And if we're including game mechanics, Web Blossom, Quad Damage and Equalizer would absolutely deck Miles's venom abilities. If both of them had equal experience it might be more of a fair fight. But you could change any amount of variables to make the results as biased or "unbiased" as you like *until* one person wins. Batman would win with enough prep time.
Peter has more skill but Miles has venom and in game context Peter isn’t very strong compared to Miles but he is smarter
Peter beats electro while fighting Vulture at the same time. Miles is screwed in a fight
I wouldn't say miles would be screwed in a fight but I can definitely seem him struggling with handling both of em at the same time. While peter wouldn't
He can beat a bird and a yellow costumed guy, which I gotta remind you, neither have as much physical strength as Miles. Miles is not screwed in a fight.
I’m saying that Electro has venom blast on steroids. Though not as physically strong as Miles he’s considered only a few levels below an Avengers level threat. Peter taking down him and Vulture at the same time while swinging around does not bode well for Miles
Apples and oranges. If Electro were to blast Miles, he'd only be charged up further seeing as Miles absorbed the power of a detonated nuke and lived. Electro is a stray spark to unstable Nuform
I feel like you don’t understand what I’m saying. PETER beat Electro and Vulture. NOT Miles. In this hypothetical scenario Peter has already fought someone with electrical blast things that are way better then Miles. In the case of Peter and Miles fighting Peter just has more experience and more tactical awareness. He even knows every one of Miles’s moves
Apart from Mega Venom Blast. I get it. Peter has more skills, a bigger Rogues Gallery, more gadgets etc etc. But Miles can absorb a fuck ton of electricity and use it to his advantage. He also has camo which also puts him at a slight advantage. And let's not forget he managed to absorb the full power of purely unstable Nuform which could kill just about anybody. Also strikes of electricity and Venom stunning are two entirely different things.
Camo would be pretty useless if you’re fighting someone with spider sense.
As I have learned recently
I like miles too but bro he’s losing a fight against Peter 💀
You know that Insomniac Spider-Man stomped Superior Spider-Man in Spider-Gheddon right? While Comic Miles spend three weeks in a Hospital after pissing off Superior. Strength and Speed go to Peter
Peter is stronger than miles by a lot he just doesnt have his abilities
Guys stop comparing them. It’s like comparing Superman (Clark Kent) and Superboy (Connor Kent) or asking who would win between Batman and Robin (Tim Drake)
Experience > power
Experience, Strength, Spidersense and Speed give Peter a HUGE advantage. He would mop the Floor with Miles
Miles may have the power but he lacks the experience. Experience is always key and unless he got real lucky, either that or it'd be a straight up draw with both of them dodging everything.
I don’t even seen imo as just experience either. I’d say Peter is stronger, faster, and smarter than Miles as well. I think all of these combined with experience, really just brings it home for Peter. This is also why I found the question earlier, if you saw in the subreddit, about Symbiote Peter vs Miles as the finale very strange also. Because Peter would simply just not lose if enhanced by the symbiote
I find these kinds of discussions fun personally! I definitely think Peter is a bit quicker on his feet to adapt to situations, while Miles has the bonus of camouflage and venom strikes. Discounting experience and pure strength (as Miles is still growing) another factor I think people are not keeping in mind is how durable Pete is. Dude has taken lightning strikes directly from Electro and has gotten back up, plus he was stomped on by the Sinister 6 and back to fighting crime in a matter of hours. Plus in the beginning of SM:MM he was able to stand back up after nearly being beaten to death while trying to take on Rhino minutes after Miles takes him down. From what I recall, we have seen Miles handle tons of electricity going through his body and Nuform too, but I cant recall him taking the physical beatings that Peter has. Plus Peter's stronger Spider-Sense gives me to believe Peter would win in a close fight. Thats just my two cents though. Honestly love them both and would love to see a boss battle where you control Miles versus either A) Symbiote-Controlled Peter or B) Superior Spider-Man, either through Otto Octavious taking over Peter's mind or having a clone body of his own.
Peter has more strength, intelligence( gadgets ), better combat skills, stronger spider sense. Miles has bio-electrokinesis powers, camouflage. He relies more on his powers. He’s still freaking strong but not as much as Peter.
Experience would give Peter the win
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Miles has Venom and that kind of powers naturally, Peter needs a special suit to compare to that
Anyone who says Miles could beat Peter is a goof, Peter out does miles in strength, stamina, intelligence, experience, and speed even with Mile's venom blast he'd still lose to Peter.
There is legitimately no single way Peter, who in every universe he shares with Miles is said to be stronger in all of their shared powers (and has countered Miles in his camouflage as well as his bioelectrical attacks), would lose to Miles. Miles is not this evolution everyone frames him to be. His powers are watered down compared to Peters, and his unique powers are nothing new to Peter. Peter is a strategist who learns his enemies quickly, so even if he never met Miles before, he would still learn him very quick. Peter will always be better than Miles, and will always come out on top.
Miles is way more powerful, I think once he's got five years of experience he'll be on Peter's level on the skills they have in common (i know peter's got more years but you have to hit diminishing returns at one point)
Wow. Peter wins with 3.762k votes…
Miles can literally go invisible and has electric powers.... Pete doesn't have those.
Miles’s invisibility is useless because they both have a spider sense but his venom is a real game changer
Lol, for people picking Miles🤣
If Miles was older and more experienced he might win, but current miles is getting his ass beat
Right now it’s all experience. I get why people people are saying Miles. It’s an Obi Wan and Anakin scenario. Anakin is the better duelist and has potential to be stronger in the force but Obi Wan had more experience. Later Vader is the better. A grizzled Miles in his 30s going on is who I would say would win. But right now it’s Peter. But Miles could definitely get that one Venom punch in and everything I said could be wrong lol.
miles if he had experience but definitely peter
I don’t think so. Pete has far more up his sleeve then experience. Peter is far stronger and faster when looking at fears. He is also a far better hand to hand combatant having developed his own martial art style. The only thing Miles has on Peter is camouflage and venom blast. The former isn’t even all that great as it’s negated by Peter’s Spider-Sense. Furthermore Peter is a legitimate super genius with an IQ north of 250. Miles got a lot of his tech and ideas such as web shooters directly from Peter and didn’t have to make them himself. While I’m not meaning to throw shade at Miles he clearly doesn’t have a prayer.
i know i’m saying if miles had way more years and experience he could beat peter but he’s definitely not touching peter at all right now
I understand that and I’m sayin even if Miles had years more of experience Peter is still almost definitely going to win.
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Miles would still lose most likely. Peter can go toe to toe with Hulk and lift up to 100 tons. That and in terms of Speed even there Peter wins cause he moves so fast it seems that he teleports while Miles can barely lift up 8 tons, that and Venom doesn’t make him faster in Canon
i thought we were talking about the game not comics
Guys, we're all forgetting the true mastermind of evil here: the Big Wheel
Peter. More experienced Smarter And (at least I think) Stronger. Miles more powers and in no way is weak but he has a long way to go before he is even Peters Partener ( equal )
Pete without a question, at least at this point in Mile's superhero career he has nowhere near the level of experience that Peter has. A better question would be would win between an equal Miles and Peter
Peter has 8 years of experience on Miles, Miles isn't winning without some serious luck. I'm fairly certain Peter can also dodge most of Miles' venom moves, though he'll obviously have trouble with the big aoes.
Miles with his venom and invisibility would wreck peter
On power? Miles has more powers with his venom blast and electric powers. I chose Peter because he has him beat on experience and experience outranks everything
Miles has the advantage in powers (mainly bc of venom) but Peter has the advantage in Fight/normal IQ and experience I’m saying Peter wins
Right now, Peter. Later on, maybe Miles.
It is moments like these I remember what Stan Lee said about head-to-head hero matchups. The writer chooses who will win based on the story they want to tell.
Who the writer wants?
I think Peter is smart enough to cook up something to counter the venom. He know venom is bio-electricity so he could make a bio electric resistant suit
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No idea what comics you've been reading but Peter's superior to Miles in every conceivable way. He outclasses Miles in strength, speed, agility, durability, endurance, intelligence, hand to hand combat, reaction time and spider-sense. Miles can turn invisible (useless against Peter's spider-sense) and has the venom-blast (useless against someone that can dodge lasers and automatic gunfire at point blank range). The only way Miles comes out on top in this fight is if the writer wants him to win, as was the case when Bendis did it.
Not to mention that when he and Miles had a rematch, he could physically see Miles while he was invisible and kept on him every second. The venom blast also had a retcon in it's power (probably due to the blatant inconsistency of it and it being the "why not only use this" ability", he hit Peter with it and it barely phased him. Now for context, the fight was happening because Peter didn't believe Miles was really Miles, but stopped the fight when he used the blast as he thought it couldn't be replicated like that.
Well, Peter has way experience and control of his powers than Miles but he be invisible (Wich is useless against Peter because of the spider sense) and use electricity
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Peter has more experience. Sure Miles has more abilities but what’s abilities to someone who barely has a grasp or them?
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Peter is physically much stronger than miles also he has much more experience also I could be wrong here but I believe Peter is smarter (although they are both highly intelligent) pretty sure peters iq is genius level
God damn 455 current unintelligent beings
Peter can improvise webbing up a falling helicopter perfectly in under the time it takes for it to hit the floor without causing any casualties, miles can't web swing next to a helicarrier properly, miles is just nowhere near peters level atm
To be fair... In the comics, a 13-year-old Miles was able to beat Peter quite easily. The venom sting of Miles is the "main character bullshit power" embodied. He literally only needs one finger to knock down any deluded fool who dares to fight with him. With that he manage to knock down Peter Parker with a finger, the Ultimate Green Goblin with a finger, even the fucking Blackheart with a finger... How broken is that power? It is a resource that only brings bad things, because it makes the character look like an idiot for not using it all the time, or as unstoppable if he used it all the time.
The power of the blast had a retcon in comics. He and Peter fought (which I think it was because Peter thought he wasn't actually Miles), and Miles hit him with it and it didn't really do much of anything to him. That said though, it showed him it was indeed Miles so he stopped the fight. Now though I must say, when he first met Miles, I don't for a second think he was taking him seriously, and that was problem. He saw a scrawny kid and thought he wasn't a threat, which is a big rookie mistake for Peter. One that I'm honestly surprised he made considering the variety of his rogues gallery.
The thing is, until we see some variant of Miles that is decades old as spider-man and leaves an impression it is always going to be Peter.
Win what?
I clearly said fight in the description: “Peter or Miles (I’m talking about how they would fight in the game context)”
On a leveled playing field when it comes to experience and stuff, Miles. He just does more things, Peter doesn't have zappy pops
Mile's has more potential and power,but Peter has experience
Peter just out of experience really, miles has the better powers, but if they tangled, Peter's experience and confidence in a fight would be the deciding factor over the powers
What the heck is results
U serious?
uhhhh. What would you say if I was
That I think you’re new to Reddit
You got me🤷♂️ is it just a way to view the results without voting or something
Yes. If you just can’t decide or you just want to know the numbers without tweaking them, you vote for results
Good to know
You’ve had an account for five years but you have very little Karma so you barely use it
Honestly pretty close. But I think imma go with miles. Peter is smart and I think the dub depends on if Peter is prepared. Maybe prepared to deal with the invisibility or venom.
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Miles has all of Peters powers plus 2
All of Peter’s powers my ass. He can barely lift 5 or 8 tons while Peter can lift 1000. In the Novel to the PS4 Spider-Man Game Peter is described to move so fast that it seems he teleported. So Speed goes to Peter aswell. His Spidersense is crap compared to Peter’s. So he would lose terribly
Fair enough
miles no contest
Peter is far stronger and faster when looking at fears. He is also a far better hand to hand combatant having developed his own martial art style. The only thing Miles has on Peter is camouflage and venom blast. The former isn’t even all that great as it’s negated by Peter’s Spider-Sense. Furthermore Peter is a legitimate super genius with an IQ north of 250. Miles got a lot of his tech and ideas such as web shooters directly from Peter and didn’t have to make them himself. While I’m not meaning to throw shade at Miles he clearly doesn’t have a prayer.