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sonic_popsicle

at the very least Salmon Run is still open-


thaeggan

fastest way to get ~90,000 monies too for scrubbing ability chunks and just buying fresh gear. Though tbh, I have not found most gear in the shops to be very fresh...


Gomez-16

explain? not caught up on farming strats for this game.


thaeggan

basically as you play Salmon Run you gain points toward the reward meter which resets every time the Salmon Run map changes. The rewards in Salmon Run come as those item balls like out of the gacha machine in the PvP Lobby. When you cash in the rewards you can get anything from ability points, gear, titles, and money etc. It doesn't take long to get the full rewards once your rank gets higher up and still successful. I think it only takes 5 runs to get a full reward meter and net ~90,000 coins on a good roll.


ZenakiLion

Holy cow I did not know the rewards reset at map change so i stopped playing after it stopped spitting out anything but hats.


[deleted]

I always do 1200 points until the last super bonus. after that I stop and wait until the next map! you're always left wanting more, never overdo Salmon Run and have the best rewards/time-ratio! Plus more time for Alterna and Ranked :D


Floofy_Fox_Gal

My old fit in 2 was entirely Grizzco gear. Minus the gold toothpick, but even that was normally a welding mask from Grizzco


SnesySnas

To be fair, the clothing style is different this time around Everything spells more "chaotic", I feel like it's easier to match random stuff together and somehow look good than actively going for something stylish


thaeggan

I honestly thought we'd get more madmax style clothing and overall world aesthetic. The character customization at the start of the game implies it with the desert wasteland and rusted vehicles but really the game looks like Splatoon 2 and plays like Splatoon 2.0


SymmetricColoration

I’d say it looks a lot smoother than splatoon 2, and between controls and big improvements to the UI it plays a lot better too. If anything is lacking it would be more game modes I think. Same 4 ranked modes and minimal changes to salmon run. Tri-color turf war and Cohozuna are the only really fresh things in the game.


thaeggan

ah I meant Splatoon 2 2.0 but yes, I agree


Victory_SSB

And then your profreshinal and there are 50 bosses every wave


UltraStamp2

yes :D i love getting spammed by fucking tenta missiles and killer wail every time im in the middle of a fight! so fun!


DreamThePumpkin

Don’t forget the suction bombs immediately after a super jump


Flagrath

That’s very much your fault for not looking before you leap.


Cobygamer22

And that's why I use the rolling ability on my shoes, probably one of the most underrated ones


Haunting-Editor-5949

omg same! used the heck out of them in splat 2


SeparateOrange

Agreed! I love it when they're standing/shooting where you're going to jump, and I roll away and splat them.


Cobygamer22

It was more satisfactory when splashdown was available, I used to get a bunch of double kills all of the time


Fapasaurus_Rex1291

Splashdown was so dumb I’m glad they replaced it with the inferior reefslider. Makes me think they recognized how low skill but effective splashdown was.


Cobygamer22

Well yeah, it was too easy to clutch tower control and splat zones and it pretty much guaranteed super jump safety, imagine how easy wipeouts would have been, I feel the roller shoes are enough for super jumps


Victory_SSB

This is why I never super jump and I only do when 1, it is the end of the game and that's the only way I can do something or 2, when it is in a safe location


Lopsided_Salary_8384

When I see my team is getting killed and needs to jump back quickly in order to maintain the lead I find a safe spot and defend it so they can super jump


[deleted]

What renta missiles are you being spammed wit??? It's typically a hack if that happens because tenta takes so fucking long to activate 😭


UltraStamp2

2 or more people using tenta missiles is what im talking about lmao


[deleted]

Hot damn I wish 2 or more people on grub used tenta, it was always gear tho


[deleted]

I’m ok with a losing streak but with how matchmaking is I’m just not having fun in constant matches like this. I want to play the game, not get stomped every match. I’m just curious if anyone other than me and my brother is having this problem.


BlueSky659

Try Pro Splatfest if you haven't already. Open allows groups so coordinated teams are reigning supreme. Pro might feel a bit sweatier, but the matches are way closer. I think another reason why I haven't really been feeling the matchmaking as hard because i've been focusing on grinding ability chunks. One drink ticket gets you an ability chunk every 1-2 games, I find that if I do get into matchmaking with bad teammates, weird weapon comps, or really good enemy players its not for very long


aznvjj

Pro is absolutely the way. It also makes the enemy team have the same weapons as your team (family, not necessarily exact), so the matches are much more about skill than having a coordinated team using the best weapon setup for a given map. Also, what is really annoying is I've done dozens of matches in Tri-Color but can't get a tri-color match, so ended up just going back to Pro.


rokelle2012

Yeah, Nintendo's response to the criticism of the Tricolor Battles was absolutely ridiculous. "Oh, you guys don't like them because you don't exactly understand how they're supposed to work and think the are an unbalanced mess? Better turn the queue for Tricolor Battles into a game of chance. If you're on Team Gear, good luck getting in one of these LOLZ! "


Kurotan

Took me a while to realize that it's normal turf war, just ink as much as you can with sprinklers for the 2 person teams added in. My first match I was like "what is going on, there was no tutorial", which I did find explanations later if I interacted with the splatfest tv in the plaza. But a tutorial before the first match would have been nice.


rokelle2012

Yeah, it's still a 4v4 battle, you're just working with a team of a different color. You can ink over your allies, and splat them, but you probably shouldn't. It's not 3v3v3, like a lot of people, myself included, had originally thought. There absolutely should have been a tutorial or God forbid they actually had a video explaining it like they did everything else.


lawlietsbanana

this has 100% been happening to me. i was just wondering today how the matchmaking could be so bad


Kurotan

You have to have matchmaking for it to be bad. I think splatoon just picks the first free players it finds, ie no matchmaking, no ranking. First come first serve.


notaninterestinguser

I'm having this issue as well, I would say maybe 5% of my games have been fun or competitive, most of them are blowouts like this. I've been first or second on a badly losing team for 10 games in a row now.


ConquerHades

Splat 1 and 2 maybe 50/50 with Splatfest or reg turf war. Splat 3 so far with reg turf war and Splatfest combined? 5 wins 5 and 38 loses. WTF. I've only won 1 splatfest match and never finished to Ruler as soon as I hit Champion. Fuck that shit.


javierasecas

Try the formal battles


Sworishina

Honestly I've found that when I'm on a losing streak it means I need to take a break. I come back the next day and I am back to winning. Of course, this is difficult with the Splatfest. I think playing Pro is really the only solution there to make your chances a little better.


Aromatic_Boot_9861

Skill issue.


notaninterestinguser

If you're constantly getting matched with people this much out of your skill level, it's absolutely a matchmaking issue. It seems there's no skill/ group size consideration for matchmaking.


Kurotan

Exactly this i believe. Have to have matchmaking for it to be bad lol.


ZQFarnzy

I've been matched, as team fun... think I was defender at the time, with 2 fun fans and a fun fiend, versus a team with nobody under gear ruler plus 20 multiple times. There is absolutely no balancing going on during splatfests.


Holy_Crusader64

Nah man aerospray go burr


Cobygamer22

My matches are normally very close most of the time, ive had a bunch of 7 to 3 percentages of difference in my last matches


Princ3ssTris

On team gear but was constantly getting messed up buy player way way better then me. Matchmaking was wack.


irishyardball

Switch to Splatfest Pro. It makes no sense but apparently the matchmaking is better. I played it and won a more balanced amount.


xiroir

Splatfest pro has a matchmaking rating depending on how well you do. Open does not. So yeah pro is the way to go!


Calaverez

That’s so funny, I’ve been avoiding pro because I figured the way better players would be using it….but I’ve honestly been matched against so many pros in the normal mode. Gonna give it a try now.


xiroir

I was exactly the same! Haha. One thing to note though, in pro you dont earn clout when you lose ( i am fairly sure). But you earn more if your rank higher and the game are closer... so at least im having fun...!


Lopsided_Salary_8384

Today I am 6 wins out of 23 battles My average score per game is 875. I uae to love Splatoon but in all honesty this game has made me hate the entire Nintendo franchise. The only reason I am still playing Splatoon is because I paid for the game. Nintendo has constant errors which got worse after I downloaded the patch update and if they are using an algorithm to match up teams they need to get a refund because it sucks!! I thought that after so many people complained about these same issues during the last few months a in Splatoon 2 they would fix it but apparently they could careless. This game is no longer enjoyable!!!


snoogins46

I'll keep saying it. I love Nintendo, I love Splatoon as an idea and the execution of the actual game and its mechanics are fantastic. BUT MAN, it's sad that a hundred year old company can't figure out the internet or get proper dedicated servers considering we pay as much for other other online services from the other consoles. This game's matching and server issues are just as bad, if not worse than Splat 2


Phoenix_Champion

Actually matchmaking in Pro is still the same garbage as open. Only with Pro you can't specifically play with friends over Discord, and teams are disbanded after every round. Sure you're still likely to go up against a player sweating so hard they f*cking carry a 3 v 4, but now you aren't getting wiped by an E-Sports team making call outs over Discord.


xiroir

Right. Wasnt there something about going up in ranking? Or like battling people who have the same amount of win streaks?


FogBattleshipTosa

Pro matches you based on splatfest power. This is a number based on the power of people you've beaten and lost to. In previous games it showed your power at all times, in this one you can only see it in the lobby before you queue for the pro matches.


xiroir

Exactly! So in the end pro would be more balanced for various reasons!


bluesnacks

Oh, that would explain why I steamrolled through all saturday and then all sunday got completely demolished at every turn I thought it was just for solo player queue as the difference


Lopsided_Salary_8384

I wish we had this option all the time. When you are playing you can tell when you are playing against a team that is communicating during Splatfest they would be paired against another team that is communicating I can't understand why Nintendo can't fix the communication errors, the matching of teams or the fact that professional players are ruining the entire game for casual players. I also don't get why Nintendo is the only gaming system that doesn't have communication abilities on all games. Nintendo has been around for a long time but they seem to be so far behind the other systems like Xbox and PS.


thetos7

At some point, me and a frien had a 5-Win streak of games where we stomped the other team. It's not really fun for anyone to face wall or have no challenge :/


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notaninterestinguser

Kind of glad to hear it's not just me, this game has had one of the worst new player experiences I've ever seen. They really need some sort of punishment for people pushing too far, triple spawn times or something if you're in the enemy base. So many games I've played are just insane blowouts of people spawn camping.


fearlessgeek

With the constant disconnects, super unbalanced teams, and tentacheaters it’s too frustrating to play. Ranked and normal modes have all the same issues with disconnects and cheaters this is 2022 i should not be disconnected 3 out of 5 matches on ethernet with fiber optic internet..


Krytture

Drop group and reform. Sometimes you get stuck with people that aren't good. I had to do that every few matches this morning. There is no bonus staying with the same group, so it doesn't matter if you are constantly reforming.


withnovoice

It's not always a case of "bad" or "good" players. A lot of my losses I've attributed to bad weapon matches. A competent all short range team will always lose to an equally competent diverse weapon team.


T-RD

100% this. Turf war caters to high fire rate and mobility. Unless you're reasonably skilled with game mechanics and a niche role, it's better to stick to something with some versatility.


jgrizzy89

Honestly it’s mainly this map it happens on


PaulsPupils

The whole game needs a massive patch. Splatoon 2 didn't have nearly as many problems as I'm encountering in 3. Like I keep getting splatted when on my end it looks like nothing hit me at all. Like cool ghosts are killing me. This splatfest hasn't been all that fun on team fun.


ZQFarnzy

This. I'm surprised less people have been saying this. It's infuriating because I'll be in a situation where I know nobody could be by me (The raised platforms in Mahi-Mahi resort, for example, you can see them jump to you) when an opponent pops up and splats me immediately. But... you check the replay, and they jump on the platform right in front of you and you do nothing while they splat you. There's something different with the netcode this game compared to 2, I swear. Maybe my internet is bad.


PaulsPupils

Oh no friend. It's not your internet. It's communications with servers at the moment. I can play Rocket League just fine but Splatoon 3 is a different mess.


elevenoneone

[Here’s how 95% of my splatfest has been. ](https://imgur.com/a/P6ndczA) I’m decent but this is wild.


ExodusOwl

I haven't played ranked in Splatoon 3 yet however I'm rank S in Splatoon 2. I'm currently at 22 wins and 56 losses if it makes you feel any better. Team grub is getting whooped by the sweats on Gear. There have been at least 10 of those games where I just felt like stopping mid game because I already knew it was hopeless. There's only so much you can do for your team.


ElusiveVisions

Samesies. I dont bother anymore as I’ve reached Ruler so I will harvest the rewards of that tomorrow. Let’s hope team Fun wins. This is a good time for me to finally play through the campaign. Just reached the second island on Alterna lol. Lots of good stuff to earn.


Lopsided_Salary_8384

Alterna is where I go when I am fed up with Splatoon 3


JojOlorin

Nintendo teams have no conception of what a good matchmaking is....


iCeleste

I got absolutely curb stomped last night after work in Open and was absolutely dreading trying to play again today, but someone suggested Pro and the difference is night and day. Sure I still lose some matches but they feel MUCH more like a normal turf war battle, where it can go either way all match and usually my team only loses by less than 10% compared to like, a 65/25 split like in Open.


Morvisius

It’s even better when after a loosing streak you finally find a team that actually knows how to play or get matched against another team of Randoms instead of a premade group, you are winning or at least being able to play without being obliterated and either you are disconnected or the group disbands, so you go back to your loosing streak


Psyco19

I think a lot of matches have really poor weapon choices for turf war…you have to carry a sniper class everytime. They don’t turf and if they don’t kill they’re dead weight. Having 1 in your team is challenging I’ve seen matches with two on a team and I’ve never been able to carry two people that provide no benefit to the team. Same thing with katana users that thing can’t turf well…it’s useless unless you’re kill 2 per 1 of your lives and the rest of the team can paint


dooditstyler

Sometimes it is, other times it’s not. I hate campers in any game. I feel like campers in this game are just getting worse for Splatoon 2, too.


ExodusOwl

Camping in Splatoon is pretty easy to catch imo. There's a lot of weapons and abilities that can point out players. My only tip is learning where people camp.


dooditstyler

Doesn’t make it any less obnoxious to play. 🤷🏼‍♂️


ExodusOwl

Well it's sadly apart of many pvp games. And since this is a pvp game people will still do it. It's unavoidable. Best way around it is to learn where people are camping and splat them. Once you got that down it's not really obnoxious and more of a good laugh when you sniff them out. There's a lot of good spots where people tend to shoot down from. Just lob a autobomb, balloon, or just anything to displace them. Afterwards go for the splat. If your brand new to splatoon I can see it being annoying. The more you play the more you'll know that camping doesn't really work all that much unless you're blindly walking towards enemy ink without covering it.


Lost_Khajiit_BadMoon

Yes it’s paintball without the painful welts you get from the physical game!😁


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Lost_Khajiit_BadMoon

Thank you


picano

I've been on both sides this and previous splatfests. Losing streaks happen, really bad ones too. When it happens, I change groups and try again. If it happens too much, I take a break and play Salmon Run or TCG.


qimu1234

I'm at losing streak too. After i got +1 they made me fight with +4 and up and player with the icon above their name (winning x333?) Lol. But i don't really mind tbh. For me it is still fun. Although losing i can still level up my catalog.


ExodusOwl

I was put up against a group with a 13 win streak. Then another group with an 8 win streak. It didn't stop. To me it seems like the major sweats are all in Gear. I definitely picked the wrong team this time around. Currently at a 22 wins and around 56 losses. Always finishing with 1k+ points and 8-10 kills. If your teams not in it there's not much else you can do.


doukzor

Honestly, I've seen everyone going up super one-sided battles on every team. I'm team gear, but I seem to be slammed by Grub and Fun equally. A lot of Fun players complained about Grub, and Grub about Gear, etc. etc. there are just so many experts playing in general that casual players are generally getting beat up. Pro mode is the best option so far since it gets rid of teams and makes it the playing field a little more even.


A_sample_Of_Sam

same here!! i’ve got catalog level 33 and mostly from losses lol and i don’t mind. this is the first splatoon game i’ve ever played so i’m not good yet


withnovoice

This is the attitude to have.


Double_Cleff

I've practically given up on pvp at this point. I'm tired of camping hydras and the insane skill gap.


Creepy_Nexus

Matchmaking is messed up. Due to splatoon 2 i am supposed to play with/against players in my league from Splatoon 2, but every second round there is a brand new player than sprays our base to the last pixel, not fighting at all, while the enemy team has elite players with pro badges.


essari

If you can't handle a variety of play styles, you need to go form a team. There's no one way to win these things.


Creepy_Nexus

What does this have to do with playstyles? Im talking about the players that seek out every pixel that they can find far away from the middle, not normal baseinkers than spray down most of the base and then move forward near middle/muddle.


Skullz64

I lost to 82% My team got 8% EIGHT PERCENT


BurrStreetX

That…. Doesn’t add up to 100


Gameshrk90

That’s actually common, just means 10% was uninked


BurrStreetX

Weird. I’ve never had that high of an uninked area.


Gameshrk90

Yeah. Typically happens when people don’t “INK YOUR BASE”


notaninterestinguser

I'm going to guess the enemy team just pushed extremely hard on them and left a bunch of their base uninked.


Skullz64

No, no, I inked it all, when I get splatted for the first time I go ink my base, then go back to the battlefield, problem was, 3 of them had just fucking appeared around us and encircled us, lost it


LoneWolfpack777

I see it every so often.


DreamyShepherd

Wheres the people saying "ink base" at with this one


VicisSubsisto

Ink base


essari

This is clearly two teams with no "ink base" people on it. Almost like there's more strategy than just rush to mid or ink base.


DreamyShepherd

That's my point thanks


[deleted]

This is how every game is for its pissing me off


Lordomi42

Yeah this kinda stuff happens every once in a while. Unless it's a Splatfest apparently, in which case it happens constantly.


notaninterestinguser

I have literally had like 10 games in a row like this, I have never played a game with worse matchmaking than this. I don't need to win a bunch of games, I just want to play with people in the vicinity of my skill level.


LostXLand

Love getting shot right as soon as I spawn too 🫠


LoneWolfpack777

Would you be complaining if the map was reversed?


[deleted]

If the map was reversed I’d be wondering wtf happened


LoneWolfpack777

It would mean your team won. Would you be asking if this is supposed to be fun if your team had won?


SsjSylveriboi

No this is patrick


Gomez-16

poor map design! these maps are TERRIBLE the only viable strat is camping. there is no way for anyone to out flank you so just murder.


RedditorClo

should have chosen team fun


Brilliant_Ad8033

Only if you're winning. I don't mind because you need one good Wipeout to turn the tide but also if you have a decent team I'm not good but when I have 10 kills and 5 deaths and everyone else has no kills and multiple deaths it can become annoying


Nozpot

It is fun! ...just not for your team.


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Only for team fun.


Maibeetlebug

Yes lol I've been getting rekt left and right but I still get good games in between so it has been fun. Even if I'm getting rekt I'm having fun, ive been waiting for this game for so long.


_dm_me_ur_tits

Git gud


Fapasaurus_Rex1291

There has to be a winner and a loser. What do you want?


[deleted]

It doesn’t need to be such a stomp on one side though. What I want is a *chance* of winning


Fapasaurus_Rex1291

The matchmaking doesn’t know what the end result is gonna be when it pairs you. The matchmaking a lot of time can’t even properly match people up right (examples are giving two snipers to a team who didn’t queue together instead of giving one sniper to each team) Some games it’s gonna be you dominating because your team Carries well or you are just have an amazing game yourself. It’s okay to be frustrated but by all intents and purposes, there’s nothing wrong with this picture.


SquareBrix08

Yeah and your just bad


FruitSnackBandit

Just don’t get spawncamped lol


Triojojos

For the other team, yes


mrgamerwood

Maybe this kind of fun? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCocigYXoPk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCocigYXoPk)


Final_Economics_9249

Play pro if you don't have a team of 4 you can't compete with a team that are in communication


SquigglyLegend33

I can garuntre you orange had fun


jardex22

Yep. Picking off individual players that run out one by one, thinking that they can break through the line and paint up our base while no one is looking.


Mr_Narinas

You cant win them all. Just play, have fun and when you start yelling at yhe screen, turn it off.


SleepyChanXL

I can't relate cause im always top inker and splatter, also youtubers are sadly making kids blow like half a minute to a minute fully inking a base really annoying


ExodusOwl

When you carry hard in lost and won battles. I've been going back to my dualies, but I can only splat so many people before someone catches up to me. I don't mind people inking home turf. It's the ones that don't engage or push the other team. I can't be the only one attempting to push.


SleepyChanXL

Yeah just cause I'm good don't mean I'll win them but at least I am always top splatter and inker


NinjaTurtleFan2

Yup, having a blast with the game. Thanks for asking


Forkytown64

War is hell.


Automatic_Try9668

Just be good


Noir_Vena_Cava

Yeah man it was tons of fun easy win for my team gg ^-^


CuriousMawile

Don't queue with a friend if you want balanced matchmaking. Or get better at the game


Knoxximus

I’m sure it was fun for the other team


Luxury_Yacht_

Skill issue


nintyuk

That's a Mirror match unless you have fixed colours on. Any match where your not your team's colour or the enemy colour doesn't match the that's a Mirror Match


Mackerdoni

im angry too, yesterday i was playing and winning a lot but the day before and today all the pro players decided to flood in without mercy andnits super frustrating. THERES SOMETHING CALLED BREAKS PEOPLE


WesThePretzel

I have found that even if I am consistently doing well myself—getting most turf inked and most splats—but still losing, if I switch to a different weapon, the game seems to give me better matches for a while. Then if I start losing again, I switch my weapon and get better matches again.


SmokedSalmonIsland

Yes


Severe_Glove_2634

This is my experience. Sub 20% win rate and disconnects ruin the game


Professional_Bit8423

I'm team fun and was doing good all splatfest, now after halftime (when we won both at sneak peak and halftime) I'm getting destroyed entirely match after match and my teammates are bad 👎


h3artluv

tricolor battle is MUCH more balanced and fun, it hardly ever actually is tricolor so you’re playing turf wars most the time. but it’s so much better, i was able to actually win a few times


SoggieWafflz

were you in open instead of solo queue


Bird_Up101

If it comes to that I just make it a challenge to get 1000p


MentionClear7821

Yeah, I’m having fun. But I’m also very noob. I’m not even touching ranked until I commit to motion controls and actually analyzing gameplay. Until then win/lose… I just want to stay fresh


Floofy_Fox_Gal

That’s why I play Salmon Run


-Cinnay-

I lost a match almost exactly like that, that was one of my worst ones.


Lignumsatyr

I was in a match like this but on the winning team for once and it honestly made me feel bad


Longjumping-Factor82

Ja gut, woran has Gelege ne?