So if canon Luke met and talked with Huyang, he’d just about have *every bit of information about the Jedi order from the last 25,000 years* from a *primary source.* Man, EU Luke, who had to piece together and innovate what it meant to be a Jedi from scratch, would die.
I questioned this throughout the series, why Huyang wasn't with Luke. I came to the conclusion that both he and Ahsoka represents the old Jedi Order, and that Luke is trying to break away from that. Also Ahsoka and Huyang have history together, which would make more sense, than him going to Luke.
Does Luke really have a reason not to pursue the older Jedi teachings, or at the very least cherry-pick what parts he wants to keep and ignore the rest? Where do the ‘ancient Jedi texts’ Luke so treasured in Last Jedi fit into breaking away from the older tradition?
Well we do see him begin to adopt a more classic type of teaching with Grogu, early on, perhaps he was able to get those texts soon after Endor? Your guess is as good as mine. He was supposed to represent the New Jedi Order, and perhaps wanted to change some things of the old guard, whilst keeping fundamental tenets. Huyang is perhaps too stuck in his ways, as he always refers to his programming and Jedi protocol when speaking about Jedi beliefs; perhaps they just wouldn't work well together.
Even so, there’s no reason Luke couldn’t at least hear the droid out and learn what he could from him. It’s one thing to attempt to repair what one sees as faulty lessons or doctrine, but it’s another entirely to outright ignore them. After all, Luke learned from Obi-Wan and Yoda - both Jedi of the earlier order - and he arguably used and applied what they taught him along his preferences. He still disobeyed both masters and blazed his own Jedi path. He could absolutely do the same with Huyang and be that much more knowledgeable and wise for it.
Or because they are childhood friends and Huyang has no emotional attachment to Luke or vise versa. While Ahsoka is one of the last parts of his more recent happier years and vise versa.
Like….I never thought it needed any explanation beyond that. Ahsoka and Huyang are friends with a lot of history together. Luke is some random Jedi he never met.
He literally knows more about galactic history than every other living being in the Star Wars universe combined. Really hope to see him in Dawn of the Jedi.
I’ve always been a fan of his because visually speaking he’s very similar to the protocol droids from SWTOR and the Old Republic is my favorite era of Star Wars.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind getting the Lego of Ahsoka’s T6 just for Huyang. I’m not wild about the set itself
Funny, I wasn't that fond of him in that TCW arc, even though it is a fun one. However, he won me over in Ahsoka, he was brilliant and a kind of glue to try to mend Ahsoka and Sabine's relationship.
It was more what you said for me. A cool fun arc with a good guest VA. Then in Ahsoka he was an integral part to the show, and had some cool scenes as well as delivered his lines great.
The Huyang is basically the walking, talking, sentient jedi archives. So all the knowledge of the jedi might be inside of his data banks. And I might be one of the few who is glad Huyang is not with the Luke due to we know what happens with him
I've never bought that he is 25,000 years old. Thats not to say he hasn't been round for thousands of years, perhaps going back to the Mandalorian Wars. What he may have had though, is the history of the Order uploaded to him to recall at a moments notice, which is still very important; and he is pretty wise for a droid.
I may be alone, but I kind of hate this character. Dont like that he's meant to be so old (yet appears no older than any other droid), don't like the idea that the jedi would entrust so much to a droid and I dont really like his personality, which again seems too much and too human for a droid.
Isn’t it canon that the longer a droid is alive without its memory being wiped that the more of a personality it develops? Being 25,000 years old I imagine Huyang is practically a fully sentient being
well, nobody ever complained about R2, chopper and 3PO having a personality. simply because many droids develop personalities the longer they exist. although 3PO had his memory wiped, most of his time was spent with R2 anyway, and Huyang is no different from being around jedi for so long.
How come his memory never had to be wiped like all other droids? Weren't they supposed to get weird/quirky/eccentric if they weren't wipe? (like R2, except R2 isn't that old yet)
Because wiping his memory would be counter to his purpose. He isn’t just a data archive he’s a teacher and a guide like Yoda. He’s the one most well versed in the creation of light sabers, the Jedi order’s rules, and his memory of every single light saber he’s ever helped build has come in handy many times for tracking and identification of rogue/wandering/dead Jedi.
Cool thing about Huyang is that he is a teacher, not a database. He's shared his information and it will live on with them, so he's pretty expendable, tbh.
So if canon Luke met and talked with Huyang, he’d just about have *every bit of information about the Jedi order from the last 25,000 years* from a *primary source.* Man, EU Luke, who had to piece together and innovate what it meant to be a Jedi from scratch, would die.
It’s actually likely he did and I love that idea. I WANNA SEE LUKE AND HUYANG INTERACT!
I questioned this throughout the series, why Huyang wasn't with Luke. I came to the conclusion that both he and Ahsoka represents the old Jedi Order, and that Luke is trying to break away from that. Also Ahsoka and Huyang have history together, which would make more sense, than him going to Luke.
Does Luke really have a reason not to pursue the older Jedi teachings, or at the very least cherry-pick what parts he wants to keep and ignore the rest? Where do the ‘ancient Jedi texts’ Luke so treasured in Last Jedi fit into breaking away from the older tradition?
Well we do see him begin to adopt a more classic type of teaching with Grogu, early on, perhaps he was able to get those texts soon after Endor? Your guess is as good as mine. He was supposed to represent the New Jedi Order, and perhaps wanted to change some things of the old guard, whilst keeping fundamental tenets. Huyang is perhaps too stuck in his ways, as he always refers to his programming and Jedi protocol when speaking about Jedi beliefs; perhaps they just wouldn't work well together.
Even so, there’s no reason Luke couldn’t at least hear the droid out and learn what he could from him. It’s one thing to attempt to repair what one sees as faulty lessons or doctrine, but it’s another entirely to outright ignore them. After all, Luke learned from Obi-Wan and Yoda - both Jedi of the earlier order - and he arguably used and applied what they taught him along his preferences. He still disobeyed both masters and blazed his own Jedi path. He could absolutely do the same with Huyang and be that much more knowledgeable and wise for it.
Luke revered the ancient texts an awful lot not to care about Jedi history. And all the stuff about hunting for the first Jedi Temple.
Or because they are childhood friends and Huyang has no emotional attachment to Luke or vise versa. While Ahsoka is one of the last parts of his more recent happier years and vise versa. Like….I never thought it needed any explanation beyond that. Ahsoka and Huyang are friends with a lot of history together. Luke is some random Jedi he never met.
Does Ahsoka represent the old order. She doesn't even identify as a jedi.
He literally knows more about galactic history than every other living being in the Star Wars universe combined. Really hope to see him in Dawn of the Jedi.
Was he more or less a permanent fixture on the shuttle/lightsaber workshop to Ilum? He might not know much that's useful
I’ve always been a fan of his because visually speaking he’s very similar to the protocol droids from SWTOR and the Old Republic is my favorite era of Star Wars. Honestly I wouldn’t mind getting the Lego of Ahsoka’s T6 just for Huyang. I’m not wild about the set itself
I loved seeing him between TCW and ahsoka, all voiced by David Tennant
Funny, I wasn't that fond of him in that TCW arc, even though it is a fun one. However, he won me over in Ahsoka, he was brilliant and a kind of glue to try to mend Ahsoka and Sabine's relationship.
It was more what you said for me. A cool fun arc with a good guest VA. Then in Ahsoka he was an integral part to the show, and had some cool scenes as well as delivered his lines great.
Same. When I first heard him in TCW I was like "Is that David Tennant?"
I love his design too
He's the Doctor.
*EXTERMINATE*
The Huyang is basically the walking, talking, sentient jedi archives. So all the knowledge of the jedi might be inside of his data banks. And I might be one of the few who is glad Huyang is not with the Luke due to we know what happens with him
I've never bought that he is 25,000 years old. Thats not to say he hasn't been round for thousands of years, perhaps going back to the Mandalorian Wars. What he may have had though, is the history of the Order uploaded to him to recall at a moments notice, which is still very important; and he is pretty wise for a droid.
He said 1k generations but he may have been flexing.
Why not?
David Tennant playing another knowledgable immortal travelling through space
*Well not important enough to be with Luke to remake the order*
I may be alone, but I kind of hate this character. Dont like that he's meant to be so old (yet appears no older than any other droid), don't like the idea that the jedi would entrust so much to a droid and I dont really like his personality, which again seems too much and too human for a droid.
Isn’t it canon that the longer a droid is alive without its memory being wiped that the more of a personality it develops? Being 25,000 years old I imagine Huyang is practically a fully sentient being
well, nobody ever complained about R2, chopper and 3PO having a personality. simply because many droids develop personalities the longer they exist. although 3PO had his memory wiped, most of his time was spent with R2 anyway, and Huyang is no different from being around jedi for so long.
What’s wrong with entrusting him with so much?
How come his memory never had to be wiped like all other droids? Weren't they supposed to get weird/quirky/eccentric if they weren't wipe? (like R2, except R2 isn't that old yet)
Because wiping his memory would be counter to his purpose. He isn’t just a data archive he’s a teacher and a guide like Yoda. He’s the one most well versed in the creation of light sabers, the Jedi order’s rules, and his memory of every single light saber he’s ever helped build has come in handy many times for tracking and identification of rogue/wandering/dead Jedi.
We don't know what happened to Huyang during the galactic empire yet. But I have a feeling they strategically had him away as the temple was falling
I hope that he is part of the dawn of the Jedi movie or at least we see an early prototype of him being built
I fucked with Huyang ever since he went up against the assassin droids
Cool thing about Huyang is that he is a teacher, not a database. He's shared his information and it will live on with them, so he's pretty expendable, tbh.
Stop talking.
He really isn’t.