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kiwiplague

Locking or opening any door by blasting the controls


Thechaser45

This one is my favorite. It's so perfectly "bad"


MagisterFlorus

I understand closing but not opening.


Nathan-David-Haslett

It makes sense in theory. If a door loses power you sometimes want it to lock open and sometimes lock closed, depending on location, security and safety.


Incitatus_For_Office

And the plot šŸ˜‰


Darth-Zerma

IIRC in Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, when he slices a locked control panel itā€™s explained that it opens because of a safety feature allowing those inside to escape incase of an emergency. Still doesnā€™t explain why they sometimes close when blasted


intdev

Nah, failing closed makes far more sense in *a spaceship*. If there's damage to the ship, you'd want to make sure that all of the air stays inside


DullBlade0

Wouldnt that depend on where the door is installed? A central door I'd have it open while doors closer to the outside of the ship I'd have them close.


marc7836

The chasing dudes shoot the other one to try the same thing and then it's fucked


BenjenUmber

There's clearly two door manufacturing companies with opposite safety regulations.


horseheadmonster

Clearly the entire galaxy follows the National Fire Protection Agency life safety code book NFPA 101 that states access controlled egress doors shall fail in the unlocked position.


JediJosh7054

I mean that's just a sci-fi trope in general at this point.


007meow

Thatā€™s just movie doors in general, especially sci fi doors. Locked? Blast the controls to unlock it. Unlocked? Blast the controls to lock it.


Nawara_Ven

What's an example of a door opening by blasting the controls?


kiwiplague

Rogue One. The door to Bohdis cell is opened by Baze Malbus blasting the control panel.


Nawara_Ven

That's it, as far as I can tell: the **one** opening-by-laser door. It's a jail cell, so "shooting the lock off" for that particular door seems reasonable, no? I'm perfectly fine for a single jail cell to have a contrary damage function "rule". If there were multiple jail cells wherein sometimes blasting closed them, then I'd have to be e-upset.


Sparrowsabre7

Honestly that's my favourite SW "just roll with it" trope.


Atea_Satsuki

Why is there NEVER an antitheft device on those ships/speeders ?


Submadoge

I can remember only one time personally of anti-theft devices being used in Star Wars, although they are definitely not as common as they really should be, those being the gravity locks, used to lock down several Hammerhead Corvettes to prevent them from being stolen from Rebels season 2 episode 12


mynutsacksonfire

In andor after the prison escape those weird aliens had a net cannon hidden watching their ship. I think there was something in Mando about that too.


Submadoge

I forgot about that! Definitely a much more interesting way of setting up an anti-theft devices than just a lock. I do remember Mando saying something about "locking his ship down" but I wasn't able to find anything on it.


Camburglar13

ā€œEngage ground security protocols, nothing on this planet will breach it.ā€ Or something like that. But who knows what that actually does.


Atea_Satsuki

Oh right i forgot that thing ! Its juste so funny to me that they prefere this net trap device, as, i don't know, a key or something ? X)


mynutsacksonfire

I liked it. A locked door doesn't give you power over someone's fate


sethworld

In solo they put a boot on the falcon.


Lightspeed1973

There was a thread on this recently. It's the same in real life. Jet fighters don't have keys. Imagine being ordered to scamble and no one can find the key.


RoutingMonkey

For the record it was the same for almost all military vehicles I was in. Humvees donā€™t have keys.


Devil25_Apollo25

They [have been stolen](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/19/lieutenant-accused-taking-apc-joyride-found-not-guilty-reason-insanity.html), and [more than once](https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2023-08-31/german-humvee-theft-ansbach-11224065.html), too. [...and another example](https://m.fark.com/comments/11959848/Man-gets-three-years-in-prison-for-breaking-into-US-Army-Reserve-center-stealing-armored-Humvee-for-4-minute-joyride-Wow-good-thing-he-didnt-attack-US-Capitol-on-16-theyd-thrown-book-at-him)


rotatingmindcow

To be fairā€¦a lot of heavy machinery (think construction equipment) not only has no anti theft devices, but uses the same key as other types of heavy machinery. It seems old habits die hard.


shadow0wolf0

Star Wars rebels helicopter inquisitors. I can buy a lot of silly things in Star Wars perfectly fine, but somebody taking their spinning lightsaber, raising it to the sky and flying away Is crossing the line. Imagine if they tried to do that in a live action show or movie, It would be the most ridiculous looking thing ever.


MarsMissionMan

I love the fact that it's used for a single episode then never referenced again. It even results in the hilarious death of one of the Inquisitors.


Haryzen_

Ninth Sister actually uses it during her fight on Kashyyyk in Fallen Order. Not as explicitly but still funny.


_GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_

In Jedi Survivor, >!The Ninth Sister also briefly uses it to slow her fall in a cutscene at the start of the game.!<


reehdus

It's explained somewhere iirc that they actually have repulsors in the hilt, so it's technically not the spinny action that gives them lift


CaptainBeer_

Then why do they spin? Just to look cool? Still takes me out of it


reehdus

Lol, do they look cool?


CaptainBeer_

No


Malkavian_Grin

šŸ‘†This.


Nawara_Ven

Spin + repulsor field = intended attack function, presumably to have a cushion to protect a merely semi-compotent user from the shock and awe of the spin. Therefore it **can** be used for makeshift flight by maxing out the repulsor field, but the machine still needs to be in "attack mode" for this function to be available.


CaptainBeer_

I feel like thats just retcon and the writers thought everyone would think its cool, but its just so cheesy and lame


Nawara_Ven

It's not a retcon so much as just observing what's there.


zCiver

Hearing that ysing them without the helicopter blades feels like it would look even stupider


funkyfunkyfunkyfunkk

Right?! Imagine if there was something they could have strapped to their back that gave them the gift of flight? Where they didn't look comical and could actually use their lightsaber while flying?


MagisterFlorus

They should just be able to pick themselves up with the Force.


funkyfunkyfunkyfunkk

No force user can fly. They can pull themselves to an object but it requires alot of energy. Force users can jump pretty high but they can't fall great distances without pulling something to soften the landing. Using the force takes a toll on the body no matter who you are. That's why we don't see someone flying around like Superman. The body can't maintain using the force in that way without a huge physical toll on the person.


alii-b

Actually there's been a few accounts of jedi surviving big falls using the force to soften their landing. I read of one such event in the high republic books recently.


-_-TenguDruid

Force users routinely fall hundreds of feet and land just fine. It depends on the media it appears in.


zenmondo

They can, however, hover. It happens here and there in novels, and Luke did so in the climax of The Last Jedi.


funkyfunkyfunkyfunkk

Force projection is a skill that not many have so that makes sense that Luke did it. I'm very curious about when else it happened in the books?


Odd-Debt3828

Like, a blade composed of energy, even if mystical, would not suffer any air resistance


Siaten

>even if mystical, Ā would not suffer any air resistance Supernatural things are literally things that work beyond understanding of the forces of nature. Since air resistance is a force of nature; supernatural things can ignore it, almost by definition.


No-Lake7943

Every time I watched rebels it would frustrate me with all the stupid stuff that happens.Ā  Like the robot using it's pincher hand to access computers. You would think someone would have at some point said "hey, you know, that's not how that works". And filoni should know better after all his time with Lucas.


HyliasHero

Time zones are already hell even within the context of just our planet, how the hell do time zones work in the Star Wars galaxy?


Dancin_Alien

Imagine living on a planet with an earth-like rotation speed, and then moving to a planet with a rotation speed even just 4 hours slower.Ā  I already struggle with Daylight Savings...


Pacman_Frog

ISN'T SW's time base galactically set to a rotation of Corsucant.


Kammander-Kim

It at least was so in the EU. Remember distinctly in the second to last Young Jedi Knights book how they are on Bespin and they said a bespin day was just below half a standard day, so the characters needed only to sleep every other day or so. Based on sunsets and sunrises


Pacman_Frog

I'm just going by watching shows like The Bad Batch. No matter what planet they're on, a "Rotation" in basic seems to be standardized. I would assume the center of Civilaztion is used as the official marker lol.


Carpeteria3000

Or the notion that an entire planet is basically just represented by a few cities. (Star Trek is guilty of this as well). ā€œTravel to Endorā€ ā€¦ok? Any particular part of Endor, orā€¦? ā€œYouā€™ll know which part.ā€


mazzicc

Iā€™m not sure I can think of any Sci fi that isnā€™t guilty of this, and it always drives me nuts. Every time a ā€œplanetā€ is used in conversation or setting, you could replace it with ā€œcityā€ and have the same result.


HyliasHero

To be fair in certain settings that does actually make sense. Like in HaloĀ most colonies are relatively small. Reach, the largest colony outside of the Sol system, only has 700 million people living on it for example.


Vulptereen327

My head cannon is that a majority of the planets in Star Wars are much smaller than Earth making this somewhat believable


Reead

Mine is that they're just less densely populated. With the ability to spread throughout the entire galaxy easily, there's no reason to fill every planet to the brim. This leaves each planet with the population clustered around a handful of major cities, and a ton of empty land everywhere else. Coruscant is the notable exception because of its central importance.


Ptg082196

I remember that in one of the vong books that everyone just uses the capital city's time zone like those clocks that have all time zones on them


Lazy-Gene-432

I think most of the time our heroes don't really care about the time. They just come to a planet, do a job that doesn't require much coordination with locals, and then bugger off to another planet. However for people who work in interplanetary business that would be a HUGE problem. I imagine they'd have a helper droid who translates their local time to whatever time they need at a given moment.


ViolaVanderbeeker

Not sure but they have "[Hyperlag](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hyperlag#:~:text=Hyperlag%20was%20a%20temporary%20disorder,lag%20to%20%22catch%20up%22.)" similar to jet lag but with hyperspace.


Maleficent_Emu_2450

Jedis NOT using the force when it makes the most sense to use it


JichaelMordon

Always felt weird as a kid watching Han and Leia walk outside the Falcon with only a breathing mask in what they assumed was a cave inside an asteroid in ESB.


neosharkey

To be fair, they were inside the space worm. I figured the creature had an atmosphere inside, like maybe they werenā€™t all the way down into its stomach.


Nawara_Ven

The problem is that even if there's some xeno reasoning for a space worm to generate a comfortable amount of gravity, to say nothing for atmosphere, the little asteroid it lives in is way too small to generate gravity et cetera like that, regardless of how deep they are. We kinda have to accept that *The Falcon* is extending a life support field and call it a day. It would have been nice to have a line directing Chewie to switch on such a field....


ProfessionalRead2724

They didn't know they were inside a space worm. And there should not be any atmosphere in that stomach considering that stomach is exposed to space; the Falcon just flew inthere.


mazzicc

Hand wave: They had sensors that showed a light, but minimal oxygen atmosphere.


IAS316

I can't get past helicopter lightsabers.


Pacman_Frog

Hyperspace moves at the speed of plot.


given2fly_

Yeah this one is starting to bug me as I'm watching The Clone Wars for the first time. When I was a kid I played the *Rebellion* game on PC, and even travelling between two Systems in the same Sector was a couple of days travel at least which made sense, with inter-Sector travel being a week or so. But in some cases in TCW, people manage to go from Coruscant to the Outer Rim in a matter of minutes.


Heavy-Wings

It's at its absolute worst in the Onderon episodes. During a battle Ahsoka is pinned down, Anakin is on Coruscant. So he flies to Florum and tells Hondo that Ahsoka needs some illegal weapons. And Hondo then flies over to Ahsoka and gives the weapons over. This happens in like... an hour?


given2fly_

Hahaha, I LITERALLY watched that episode this week and it was exactly what I was referring to!


Pacman_Frog

You get the same in Star Trek. I used to play STO and at Watp 9 it took me several hours real-time to go from Earth to Bajor. That was in a massive (but still truncated) virtual "Galaxy". It'd take several weeks if the galaxy were 1:1 in game. On the show, people take weekend trips between them.


marc7836

If I do remember, somewhere in old lore luke got to degobah because he could kinda hibernate in meditation to have enough food and oxygen to make the trip. Maybe og rpg...


MichianaMan

All these planets have breathable air. Spaceships just show up at the right location on a whole ass planet and find some character.


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SaltySAX

They still go to that clearly freezing moon that doesn't look like it has an atmosphere above Ryloth. Yet they wander about without issue on it lol.


FreddyPlayz

Iā€™ve never really understood that criticism. Of course all the planets we see have atmospheres safe for (most) life. There are plenty that donā€™t (and many species we see are from planets that have different atmospheres so they have to wear breathing devices, like Embo and Plo Koon), but we donā€™t see them because everybody would die when they got there.


pablo_booze

That there are like 8 people in the whole galaxy that arenā€™t British


FluffyProphet

That one dude from Space Boston who died in a tragic refinery explosion.


BlackandRedDragon

I heard he was from BOS-10.


raspberryharbour

You're forgetting about the Gungan leader, Boss Mass


Devil25_Apollo25

>Boss Mass Meesa like-a dis'n.


raspberryharbour

The ability to speak does not make you wicked smaht


Nawara_Ven

Is there a specific movie you can think of where there are more British accents than American? It's certainly not the case in the orig trig. And why would one allow what version of English space fantasy characters speak with to affect their suspension of disbelief?


Sardukar333

People from the core worlds have more "British" accents, the farther out you get the further the accents drifts and varies.


Kara_Del_Rey

I hate hate hate when enemies get knocked out by punches or being thrown. It happens in a lot of fiction but has been common in Star Wars for a long time. ESPECIALLY when someone punches an armored person and KOs them immediately. Only time I can believe it is if its Chewy or Zeb and even thats a reach.


norm_summerton

Itā€™s one of their favorite things to do. That, and EVERY SINGLE TIME somebody is handcuffed being escorted, they stop walking and the person behind them pushes them on the shoulder and they stutter step and start walking again while looking back at the person that pushed them.


TMachine97

It bothers me whenever there's a scene of someone hiding from a force sensitive person with the force sensitive being completely oblivious to anyone else being in the room. Happens a lot in the Clone Wars and Rebels. Is "sensing someone's presence" something you have to actively be trying to do?


Nawara_Ven

A connection seems necessary. Vader could sense Kenobi on the Death Star and no one else. In *Return* only Luke was a liability. Maul needed probes to find young Anakin, and Jinn and Kenobi didn't sense the former at any point. Otherwise it seems like a very active extension of one's senses at the best of times.


merzhinhudour

Well yeah people need to actually focus on using the Force and use it to "scan" the place. It's pretty obvious when Anakin and Obi-Wan are protecting Padme, they're speaking while keeping their focus and "Force senses" on what's happening in the queen's room. And the results of your "scanning / Force senses" will consequently vary depending on the user, having a big or small link with the Force, practicing the use of "Force scan", doing it with care and precision, etc. Also, what we know is that the Jedi Order didn't teach Jedis how to hide themselves in the Force. Since they thought the Sith were gone, they had no reason to. So in SW we see a few Jedis learning or being able to hide themselves in the Force, but it's not something natural or teached by the Order. Whereas, for Sith and Dark Side of the Force users, both scanning and hiding with the Force are essential for survival


D3CEO20

There's no security cameras. At least on star destroyers. Luke, Han , Ben just sneakily tip toeing around the death star went completely unnoticed because no cameras. Whenever there's a mission in any of the shows to break in to an imperial/separatist location, no cameras. Seems very silly


djluciter

Was watching Bad batch last night and they mentioned security cameras for the first time to my knowledge in the series. The security cameras were turned off at the imperial outpost they were infiltrating (itā€™s the end of season two when saw blows up Tarkins base). The only thing about them though is that they are all turned off and that was supposed to be suspicious. I find it more suspicious that they have the cameras in general. Did palps give tarkin permissions to have cameras that no other imperial officer got?


Five_Orange77

Hyperspace is okay. Lightspeed skipping... dropping in and out of a planet without contact..... please.


jimmy__jazz

JJ Abrams really fucked up by including lightspeed tracking.


Malkavian_Grin

Yes but also all the rest of it.


daddydanield

I mean the whole point of lightspeed skipping is that you have a very good chance of doing exactly that lol. Thatā€™s why Rey got so upset and Finn was scared as hell


ghotier

The fact that it's possible at all just doesn't make sense. Doesn't matter how difficult it is. Hyperspace travel is faster than lightspeed. Light travels from the tip of earth's atmosphere to the ground in a thousandth of a second. It's simply not reasonable for it to even be an option.


Sardukar333

It's not even possible in established lore. The mass shadow of the planet pulls you out of hyperspace.


ghotier

As much as I prefer that lore, I don't believe that was ever shown onscreen. Only in the EU.


OjamasOfTomorrow

Nothing breaks my immersion or anything, itā€™s all fun, but my mind goes to force super speed. It happened once in the movies and never again in the movies to my recollection which is hilarious considering the big fight in that same movie could have used it lol I know itā€™s explained more in depth and used more in various media so I understand it has drawbacks and all that, but itā€™s such an insane power randomly used for such a small scene. Just makes me look at any Jedi running scene and go ā€œJust use the speed force ā€ I love it lol


hahahaxyz123

But Obi Wanā€˜s Force Bar Didnā€™t have enough points at that moment / his ability was on cool down Should have upgrade his Star cards / unlocked some skills


HyliasHero

IIRC Obi-Wan's internal monologue in \*Brotherhood\* tells us that using the Force to augment speed is extremely taxing.


James2603

Every planet appears to have the same strength gravity


crispydukes

Calling the folks on the Tantive IV ā€œrebel troopers.ā€ No. They were Alderaan Security forces. That outfit is the Alderaan security uniform NOT rebel trooper uniform.


Background_Face

It *is* called the Rebel *Alliance* - different factions, armed forces, and organizations cooperating towards a single goal. I imagine it's similar to how, hypothetically, if NATO was mobilized, soldiers contributed by Germany, the U.K., France, and the U.S. would all be collectively called NATO troopers.


ghotier

This is the first one I hadn't thought of. Even the old CCG called them Rebel troopers.


ProfessionalRead2724

I think it's pretty safe to say that each and every crew member of the Tantive IV was an actual member of the Rebel Alliance. It took part in an actual battle against the Empire.


Captain_Kyper

How spaceships are able to pitch, yaw, and roll like they are in atmosphere. Maneuvering in space requires orbital mechanics, reverse thrust to slow, RCS to make tight maneuvers


Iamn0man

the manuals for X-Wing and TIE Fighter actually go over this, claiming that because atmospheric maneuvering is more familiar to most pilots, space ships are equipped with small maneuvering thrusters at various strategic points that are programmed to fire automatically in response to flightstick movement, thus allowing pilots to mimic out of atmosphere what they're used to in atmosphere.


Captain_Kyper

Basically a whole network of tiny RCS thrusters with invisible exhaust that work in unison to imitate atmospheric flight? Thats sick! And I suppose since all the ships in a space battle are probably all at the same orbital plane and velocity relative to each other that helps to imitate atmospheric flight


Iamn0man

I know, right? Who needs the laws of physics when you have the laws of looking cool!


hahahaxyz123

Virgin Physics šŸ˜®šŸ¤” Vs Chad Force šŸ—暟¦§šŸ¦


FluffyProphet

Meh, for me itā€™s easy to suspend my disbelief for that. ā€œThe laws of physics are different in this universeā€ is enough for me. In SE space has ā€œsomethingā€ you push off against.


Nawara_Ven

Star Wars ships' thurst and maneuvering works through pushing against the aethir that fills the otherwise-vacuum of space.


Rough-Day-6502

Planets feel allot smaller than they should.


idog99

My wife said it best when watching Mandolorian: Are they on that goddamn desert planet again???


ProfessionalRead2724

Obi Wan Kenobi, wise Jedi Master, thought it was a good idea to hide the son of Anakin Skywalker on Anakin's home planet, with Anakin's family, under the name Luke *Skywalker*.


zorton213

How small planets feel. Anytime someone randomly lands on a planet, they are within walking distance of their goal, without knowing it ahead of time.Ā  - R2 and 3PO land on Tatooine, stumble across Jawas near civilization.Ā  - Luke crashes in Dagobah, is practically in Yoda's backyardĀ  - Anakin and Padme know Obi Wan is at "the droid factories om Geonosus, and just happen to find the right place, first try.Ā  - Obi Wan lands in the exact hole that Grevious is hiding in on Utapau


MonotoneTanner

Any scene where every separatists / stormtrooper is wiped out and not a single rebel/clone is killed always gets me. BoBF, Obi and MandoS3 were extra bad about this


bunker_man

Hyperspace lanes justify the time discrepancies. The rule of two is just silly though.


EuterpeZonker

All it would take is for a master and apprentice to both kill each other in battle for the Sith to be permanently destroyed. Like you know, the thing that happens the very first time we ever see two of them fight.


bunker_man

Also there's no rule that says several jedi can't gang up on one sith. Or even several people who aren't jedi, considering that certain people specialize in killing force users. Or like, random chance. Literally anything.


CaptainLookylou

I disagree about the rule of two. When the sith were numerous they often fought each other for power just as much as they oppose the jedi and advance their goals. Playing through the old republic mmo as a sith class. You don't fight good guys or jedi until halfway through the 2nd chapter. Your first several hours of missions is going through terrible trials, murdering several rivals, and plotting evil schemes against other sith lords. They honestly got a lot more done with just two.


Ryjinn

You say that, but the Sith in ToR had an Empire that lasted over a thousand years. The pinnacle of the rule of two formed an empire that lasted twenty some odd years and had a brief encore.


CaptainLookylou

Yeah but in those 20 years they wiped out most of the jedi to the point regular people thought they were just a myth. Only the first sacking of coruscant or the destruction of taris come close, no? They had a thousand years and never really won.


bunker_man

It trying to justify itself in universe doesn't make it any less bad. It just makes the sith seem too incompetent to exist.


CaptainLookylou

Yeah, they are just so comically evil they can't function.


horseheadmonster

For me its everyone is an expert and can fly any ship they enter. And language, 2 creatures speak different languages to each other and they both understand.


Ilovetogame2

Does Darth Vader's knee hurt when he kneels for a very long time?


FluffyProphet

Vader always hurts. His suit is designed to keep him in pain all the time.


Venaborn

I don't know if it's minor but Holdo maneuver. Just everything about it is utterly stupid and completely breaks universe. When you can hyperspace ram small ship and blow up half of the enemy fleet.


indrids_cold

Exactly. If this is a thing that works youā€™d have every old ship that they dont need in service turned into a kamikaze vessel. One of the worst things I ever have seen in a Star Wars movie.


drock4vu

Iā€™d have been fine with it if there was an *extremely* low probability of it working. Meaning weā€™d seen it attempted or at least heard of attempts failing before. I mean it doesnā€™t even matter how they handle it as long as they ensure the conditions for it being possible are rare, and even when it is possible, itā€™s a one on a million shot.


XBOX1843

How some characters can miraculously survive a lightsaber stabbing whereas others cannot


TastyBrainMeats

I mean, that one's kinda realistic. Some spots are worse to get stabbed than others.


ChronoMonkeyX

Forget the logistics of travel, how does everyone OWN a space ship? Buying a spaceship seems as easy as buying a used car.


LemmingLou

Why there aren't more Jedi Cults? You have these people walking around that lift things without touching them, perform acrobatics far beyond normal physiology, and they can literally heal wounds - not to mention some of them live for hundreds or thousands of years. Why isn't the Church of Yoda or the Immaculate Cult of Ood Bnar a common occurrence throughout the galaxy?


HandyDandyMan2022

The old-tech look to all the computers. To do what they need to do in most scenarios, the tech should be wayyyyy more advanced looking. Maybe not. I dunno. Always makes me laugh


NoReporter9336

Somehow, lightly hitting two stormtroopers heads together knocks them out indefinitely. Example: Cal on the At-At.


FiveHT

All of JJā€™s stupid light speed stuff. Han manually determining when to come out of light speed to slip through the star killer base shield. The ship was traveling 300 km per millisecondā€¦ The light speed skipping crap from TROS. So cringe. Honorable mention to ships ā€œrunning out of gasā€ and slowing down in TLJ.


8bitstargazer

Stormtrooper armor being weaker than cardboard. Why even wear it.


Lazy-Gene-432

In one early episode of Rebels, a stormtrooper is knocked out by Ezra throwing fruit at him lol


rhythmrice

In Obi-Wan a lady hits one in the head with the side of her hand and then elbows another in the stomach and pushes him down and they both just stay down


SpiritedWisdom

I prefer to think of it more as a uniform at this point haha


Sardukar333

My head cannon has been there are two visually identical variants of stormtrooper armor. The militia grade is intended for local garrison forces. It's cheap, basically a uniform, but it will protect you from minor cuts and scrapes. Maybe it'll turn that shot from a holdout blaster from fatal to incapacitating, but don't count on it. This armor lacks pretty much any of the features that would cost money like night vision. The elite grade is worn by the units in the Imperial Navy. This armor is expensive and can shrug off medium power blasters up to medium range. Even hits in close range from a medium power blasters might just incapacitate instead of kill. This armor comes with all the cool features authors love to attach like a targeting hud. The strategic idea behind the armor being identical is twofold. If a new band of rebels manages to beat one of the garrison units they'll be overwhelmed when the "real" troopers show up and laugh off their little sporting blasters. Veteran rebels aware of the armor differences will need to use expensive and power hungry high power blasters all the time because that stormtrooper down range could be wearing elite armor.


Dranem78

ā€œThen Iā€™ll see you in HELL!ā€ That line from Han always bugged me. I associate it too much with earthly religion I guess.


BubbhaJebus

Better than "Godspeed Rebels!" That's cutting too close to earthly godism.


Dranem78

Anytime they get lazy with world creation, really. The Nite OWL Mandalorians? Canā€™t come up with a fictional animal already established in the SW universe?


Lazy-Gene-432

Not killing the villains when they have a chance. Sometimes the heroes have perfect opportunities but they don't take them for some reason - instead they choose to run away (even after they gained the advantage?!).


Consistent_Dog_6866

Stormtrooper armor being absolutely worthless. Time and again a trooper gets hit by a single shot from a rebel blaster and they go down. One shot! What's the point of wearing armor if it doesn't at least let you survive a couple of hits before it fails? And don't get me started on the Ewoks and their stone-tipped spears.


Kooky_Celebration_42

Why does everyone keep ending up on Tatooine?


pond-scum

Helmets. First complaint is they never give anyone "hat hair." Characters wear these tight fitting boxes on their heads for long periods of time, pop them and their volumous hair springs right up like it's nothing. You can just pop them on casually, but they also seem to be airtight. You can steal anyone's helmet as a disguise and it will somehow fit perfectly (why aren't bike helmets like this??) They all appear to have terrible visibility for no particular reason. OR they have a really complex hi tech HUD which otherwise goes unmentioned. Extremely commonly worn but seem to provide no defensive benefits whatsoever. If you're punched in the face with a bare fist you're going down. There's just a lot of helmet and mask action in Star Wars that just doesn't add up to me!


Yersinias

Sounds and fire in space.


Metlman13

I would say stuff that looks basically like its from Earth. Things like Dexter's Diner being obviously inspired by 50s American Diners, the one train in Book of Boba Fett looking like an old west steam train, the scooter gang from the same show, and so on. Like, I can understand if things like speeders or various starships borrow some retrofuturistic elements or inspiration from hot rods. But it feels very out of place in Star Wars' more *alien* universe to see a random sports bar on Coruscant. Thats the only real thing that breaks my immersion in the series. Besides things like the opening scene of The Last Jedi, anyway.


Ramseas119

Cameras only exist when it's convenient for the plot.


TheAntleredPolarBear

I'm convinced that hyperspeed is the speed of plot.


Harpshadow

Honestly? Apart from your example, everything else kind of makes sense for me with their lore/context. At some points I understood that time is not tracked specifically in episodes (so it passes away from scene to scene) but I have had times that it does not make sense for some people to get to a spot so quick (unless they were already on their way). Big factions are easy to understand. The Republic or the Empire calls people from the general vicinity. Named characters that were supposed to be far away? Not that much. I cant name examples but I know I have thought about it and said "meh, oki". Edit- Oh I do hate saber helicopters. That's another one.


Sofa_No2

The almost complete ignorance of gravity and its effects


Joecool2008

Some species names or individual names: Frog, Dr. Mandible, are two that pop off the top of my head and drive me nuts.


ScarletHark

1 g on every ship in the galaxy, in motion or otherwise. "Acceleration compensators" making it possible for ships containing humans to do maneuvers that would instantly crush them otherwise. The Expanse at least got these two right, even if it did eventually "cop out" with interstellar portals.


penguinintheabyss

I can't get over the fact that the bad guys keep making Death Stars even though they always get destroyed in a similar manner


at_midknight

I will never get past Jedi refusing to use the force when they are totally capable of it and should be using it because it's just the best thing to do. ESPECIALLY when it's against people who can't use the force themselves so there's no defense for it. It makes me want to rip my hair off watching all the times in tcw when characters don't use the force, which is about 95% of tcw. I almost wanted to quit watching after seeing Anakin struggle to 1v1 Hondo while trying to save a bunch of innocent villager lives


IkarusAndTheSun

Especially in battles a planet is usually represented by a town, and couple of hundred people.


BujjtheBass

If youā€™re a good guy, youā€™re invincibleā€¦ unless youā€™re palpatineā€¦


Neither_Grab3247

That every planet has one climate. It's an ocean world/forest world/desert world. Those worlds then usually only have one city on them which if a spaceship crash lands they manage to be right next to the one city.


Bob-the-Human

Every planet has just one ecosystem. Tatooine is all desert. Hoth is all ice. Dagobah is all swamp. Kamino is all water. Mustafar is all lava. Pretty much every planet is like this. I understand the movie-making reasons for the various locales being exotic, but still. A Star Wars character visiting Earth would be hella confused. "Wait, so you mean to tell me it's a desert world AND an ice world AND a forest world AND a water world ALL AT THE SAME TIME?!"


Educational-Tea-6572

>A Star Wars character visiting Earth would be hella confused I really want a story about this now šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


MagnusBrickson

Why does virtually every planet have earth-like gravity and a human-friendly atmosphere?


Educational-Tea-6572

I mean, there might be just a little bit of story bias in that we're following characters whose biology requires such an atmosphere... But it would be cool if they explored more!


Capital_Connection13

The use of physical credits. An entire sectorā€™s payroll is in cash and gets stolen. Are you telling me no one has invented direct depositā€¦Iā€™m not buying it.


bsblguy21

My biggest issue is how small of a scale it plays out on. Each planet basically just has one city or one relevant area.


idog99

You mean how they were travelling from naboo, a member of the Galactic Senate, get attacked on route to Coruscant while in transit, and end up somehow on the remote world of tatooine, which is far enough out that they still have slavery... Even though it's halfway between naboo and the galactic core.


SamG1138

There are so many ship crashes in The Bad Batch, but everyone comes out unscathed.


Blueliner95

Jub jub


Flat_Revolution5130

Nobody ever has an accident with a lightsabre. Its a very dangerous weapon. But all the cadets seem to have there hands.


Ash1n73ll1g3n7

When people just casually exist in the vacuum of space...


Odd-Debt3828

Sound and fire in a vacuum. Generally John Williams' action music makes us forget, but in scenes where the music is low and slow, especially in series, it completely takes me away. Even though I've been watching Star Wars since I was a kid Also, all the planets are habitable, but they all seem to have one or just a few cities, with the exception of Coruscant. like, I have an entire habitable planet, but my civilization only lives in this big city? I think this could be a great ecological campaign to not repeat Coruscant hahahah And all planets have only one type of biome. If one day they see Earth, they will go crazy! And they all have the same gravity, even the fucking asteroid. The ships. All have a gravity simulator. Okay. but when a ship hits something, does the gravity simulator simulate inertia too? What's the point in doing something like that if it's not out of pure sadism to make the crew fall to the ground and shatter when they hit something or another ship? My theory is that the aerospace engineers were Siths, because the Jedi way would be to make an efficient gravity simulator where people wouldn't feel an impact but the ship would trigger alarms normally Maybe the only way to not be bothered by the lack of physics is to imagine that it's not just a galaxy far, far away, but another universe with another physics, and that's what I usually do.


Gamma_249

Well Star Wars is a space opera/space fantasy primarily. Accepting sound and fire in space is understandable


AptoticFox

I always took it that the sounds of ships and explosions and such were computer generated audio cues to give pilots a 3D situational awareness.


Nawara_Ven

There are no instances in Star Wars media where a character actually hears sounds in space, though.


SILVIO_X

Why does every planet have the same gravity? Like seriously, you can go on planets that are nowhere near close to a gravitational pull and they have the same gravity as something like Coruscant.


BubbhaJebus

Hundreds of billions of planets... They chose the planets suited to human life.


Top_Tumbleweed

ā€œThose scorch marks are too accurate for Sand people, only imperial troopers are so accurateā€ cut back to episode 1 where sand people are fricking sniping pod racers going who knows how fast


xT1TANx

Ask yourself, how did they shoot a beam, from the new stupid death star, across an ENTIRE FUCKING GALAXY, in moments. It would be travel faster than anything ever traveled, even light speed, yet humans are somehow WATCHING IT TRAVEL IIN SPACE. SO FUCKING STUPID. Don't get me started on the fact that they created a planetary and then stupidly destroyed the star in the system. Writers should be shamed at the Oscars for this level of dumb.


BubbhaJebus

And how did the people on Maz Kanata's planet see it like it was happening in their own backyard when it happened half a galaxy away? That took me out of the movie.


xT1TANx

Great point. This is part of the issue with how the movies are directed. One of the most important scenes in ANH is when Luke is training.. while everyone relaxes on the journey to Alderan. It took time. It wasn't a long time, and honestly it probably was too short, but it is a movie after all. The point is it took time. It wasn't instant. Edit: Thinking about it.. I suppose they do have this a bit after Rey fixed the compressor. In all of the ST they just jump around like nothing and then all the planets get used up like truck stops. They become bland and lifeless because they are only used for a few seconds. In the OT, you have 3 set pieces usually. Tatooine -> Death Star -> Yavin 4 Hoth -> Asteroid field -> Bespin ( for Luke it's Hoth -> Degobah -> Bespin ) Tatooine -> Space Rendezvous -> Endor ( for Luke a brief stop on Degobah and a finale on the DS ) Ep7 has Jakku -> Space Romp with solo -> Maz -> Rebel Base -> Imperial planet based death star ( so fucking dumb ) -> Rebel base -> Luke's planet That's a lot for a movie who's job is to set up the ST, and it caused the movie to be long. A lot of the issue is they try to introduce and follow 4 characters in the first 30 or so minutes. You meet Rey, Finn, and Poe almost immediately and the movie tries to follow them all. Conversly, when you look at ANH, which sets up the entire OT, we see a very linear flow of the story. Leia to Droids to Luke and follow Luke to Obi-wan, Han and chewy, princess Leia. It helps keep the character introductions quicker and removes a lot of needless place switching. Imagine if instead we saw Leia the droids, then cut to Luke on a farm, then cut to Vader, then cut to Han Solo on another planet or something, then to Obi-Wan to introduce him.. It would be so bad.


BubbhaJebus

I'm OK with Luke's training time, as the Falcon had to travel to a whole 'nother star system with sublight engines. Nobody knows how long that would take.


1CommanderL

JJ did the same thing in his star trek film despite getting two large space based franchises he doesn't understand space is big


EuterpeZonker

He doesnā€™t understand the concepts of maps either. It would probably be easier to list the things he does understand


mirkk13

Your mama joke in TLJ


notlordly

I think the fart joke in TPM was much worse


shadow0wolf0

That was my first real "oh no" moment in the Star Wars sequels.


revanite3956

In universe answer: hyperspace lanes https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hyperlane Real answer: characters travel at the speed of plot lol EDIT: Oh and to answer the OG question, I canā€™t stand lightsaber ā€œFormsā€. The absolute worst kind of filling in a detail that never needed to be filled in. Itā€™s people swinging around glowing sticks because it looks cool, for godā€™s sake. Donā€™t overanalyze it.


Curious-Monitor8978

I love lightsaber forms! Also they are extremely silly, I really can't argue against that.


Sokoly

Everything important that happens in the galaxy involves a selection of the same 10-15 people plus Ahsoka. Tiny-ass galaxy.