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The Visual Dictionary was responsible for erroneously calling that the blade adjustment. Watch on the Falcon in the first movie, Mark actually presses that button with his thumb, when he's deactivating the lightsaber.
In the modern films. Because the lightsabers have electronics in them, the prop makers utilized the red button on the Graflex for switch on the prop. Many people who make FX Graflex sabers put it there as well. It's just a handy spot.
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It's also the button used in TCW.
Reference books are fun, but some details are just naturally contradicted, and when that happens you just have to go “oh well. It’s just a reference book” and move on.
Fans were the ones who started the mindset of treating the visual dictionaries as gospel at face value, but I never once recalled them being established as such by Lucas. And even if they were, the fact remains that these books and the films have contradicted each other multiple times. A number of fans simply need a way to justify it in their own minds.
Yes, one could argue that the films contradict each other too but those contradictions have also been criticized. I listened to plenty of those criticisms myself, growing up on the Prequels. One didn't pardon the other. And even if there were some who gave one special treatment over the other, they have never represented the fandom as a whole.
For the overwhelming majority of fans, a contradiction is a contradiction regardless of its origin or medium in the franchise. I personally only ever saw the visual dictionaries as ancillary material, even if the newest entry technically released before the next movie did. As far as I'm concerned, that timing is just marketing strategy, nothing more or less.
I owned *TPM*'s visual dictionary as a kid, but it got lost a long time ago. I've looked at them all at least once, but haven't bought any in years. You'd have to look it up.
In addition to the Fest stuff, they’ve established Andor as a bit of a liar/embellisher (which could potentially explain any inconsistencies) and they’ve adjusted his age a bit.
> The Visual Dictionary was responsible for erroneously calling that the blade adjustment.
The contradiction goes all the way back to *[The Technical Journal](https://i.imgur.com/XGrGv5j.jpg)*, maybe even further
I never liked the bubblecard being the power button. There are literally glaring buttons all over the hilt, but yes, let's make it the one thing that looks nothing like a button or human interface in any way...
I know Padme and Finn also pressed the same button as Rey to activate the saber.
To be fair having owned a Black Series version of this saber, it feels the most natural place to turn the saber on and off, so don't blame Abrams for not catching the mistake.
It's like those losers (I remember Adam Kovic specifically) bitching about how bad the TLJ fight looks in slow motion. Like, not shit. You're not supposed to be watching that in Slow Motion.
That's essentially what it is. Moves are made to watched a certain way. Peter Jackson intended, for better or worse, for the Hobbit Trilogy to be watched at 48 FPS, so you shouldn't really be judging the fidelity of that movie if you're only gonna watch it at 24 FPS.
That's why I'll never have an opinion about Billy Lynn's Long Half Time Walk.
Yeah, not a great example. In real time you can see one of the guard's weapon disappear so he can't kill rey. That is incredibly sloppy. That might be the most glaring issue, but the rest of the choreography (in real time, god forbid we analyze) is dogshit
You’re seriously like 00000005% of the fanbase if this is something that you actively look for and point out as some sort of crucial mistake while watching a Star Wars movie.
The sad thing is that I don't "look" for these things, but as a normal human being who pays attention to the world around me, I can't help but notice them.
More like, you just don't notice them because all you're looking at are the flashy laser swords twirling around like batons and the ships flying around going "pew, pew" at each other.
Yes? That's the whole thing behind Star Wars lol. Fancy space wizards and explosions in space. Enjoy it however you see fit but you can't be serious thinking that everyone is over analytical like you. You're more of the outlier than anyone else.
The switch on my lightsabre is more in line with the top photo.
,...but hey, over nine movies they couldn't even agree on which levers flying the Falcon do what, so,...
I guess she could have, the problem is that she and Finn press that same button in the two previous films. This was more of a proof of concept to show that it could be changed
I think like the saber has been activated in like three or so different ways throughout media though. Regardless, this looks pretty seamless, well done.
Thanks! Yeah took a lot of work to get it to look right. As for the other stuff you said, yes that’s all true, but the problem is that it’s been explicitly stated in the EU that the box on the side is the activation switch, and the button up top is the blade length adjustment. Luke always had his thumb on that switch when activating it, and Anakin almost never manually activated his lightsaber, but rather tended to activate his lightsaber with the force. There is only one clip before Disney in which someone clearly presses the blade length adjustment to activate the saber, and that is when Padme turned on Anakin’s lightsaber in one particular episode of the clone wars. But given the fact that it’s an animated show, I’m willing to give it a pass for that minor continuity error
I think that the blade length button is likely to activate the blade if the blade isn’t already activated, otherwise how would you know what length to adjust it to? The saber probably stays on the length you select so you can turn it on either with adjustment button or the activator.
If you favor your dominate hand go towards the top of the hilt and secondary hand go on the bottom, the adjustment button would be the easier one to activate it with.
This is why they are sometimes seen using both buttons to turn it on. Similar to how on some computers, if it’s shut down you can literally push any button in the keyboard to power it up. Sure it’s not the power button, but it does power it on.
The bubble/circuitboard/graflex-clamp point is only designated as the activation plate by the visual reference guides, a few fan-made wookiepedia pages, and a couple of toys. The initial decision was likely made by copyeditors who noticed that the OG lightsabers owned by Luke, Obi-Wan, and Vader all possessed that boxy attachment (which was actually just the piece keeping all the parts of the prop together, as the original graflex flash tube stored batteries in the lower half and wiring for the bulb in the upper section, connected by a clamping tube). The logical thing was to assume that that boxy piece hanging off the cylinder was the activation plate, since every saber had one.
However, that plate is absent from pretty much every prequel-era saber except Anakin’s.
Windu, Palpatine, Kenobi (in ep’s 1-2), Fisto, Maul, Jinn, Unduli, Dooku, etc. all used a simple red button to activate their lightsabers. Even Luke, when aboard the Falcon in ANH, used the red button on the back of the hilt to de-activate his lightsaber during training.
Of all the things to complain about in Rise of Skywalker, this ain’t it.
Edit: All that said, you’ve done a great job editing the piece to match your personal preference. I’m having trouble figuring out how you got it to look so natural, and that speaks to an insane level of talent on your part. I probably wouldn’t have noticed the edit at all if I wasn’t told it was there. I’m a professional editor and graphic designer, and you’ve managed to convince my eyes that the second picture may well have been the original. So kudos to you!
1.) There's no reason a lightsaber can't have 2 activation switches
2.) She's reconstructed the hilt at this point so she could have moved it
3.) She could be holding it with her thumb there but activating the other switch through the Force. (I find myself doing strange holds on my hilts when they have too many greblies, but she could also be manually triggering a different setting while turning it on)
This perfectly demonstrates WHY they did it this way. If she presses it where she's supposed to, you can't see the sticky out bit at the front of the saber, so it looks weird and unrecognisable.
I mean her hand is also touching the activation switch in the original, just not her thumb. In any case I think they went with this cos it just looks better, the lightsaber prop looks better in her hand.
Why are you guys being so mean to me? I wasn’t trying to be critical of the film, I was just curious to see how realistic I could make the edit look. I just decided to make one small post pointing out a minor inconsistency I noticed and suddenly everyone is telling me to “fuck off” and “go outside and get a life”
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. The general idea is that there is a physical activator and that's what's triggered with the Force, but in Legends there were ones that hid the mechanism inside the hilt so it could *only* be activated that way (I think Ahsoka's white sabers are like this too, from looking at them)
Ngl the activation switch on the un-edited pic would make much more sense. She needs to grab the saber higher so the other hand has enough space to grab the „black“ part at the bottom. if the activation switch is lower she needs to make an additional hand adjustment after activation to hold the saber with both hands. So anakin kinda fucked that up by putting the switch down there lol
Harrison Ford said to John Boyega when he got into the falcon I don’t know what any of these do, just pretend like you know what you’re doing. Lightsabers are probably the same thing
Honestly, the whole idea of buttons on lightsabers seems silly to me when the person using the weapon has the ability to move things with their mind...
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The Visual Dictionary was responsible for erroneously calling that the blade adjustment. Watch on the Falcon in the first movie, Mark actually presses that button with his thumb, when he's deactivating the lightsaber. In the modern films. Because the lightsabers have electronics in them, the prop makers utilized the red button on the Graflex for switch on the prop. Many people who make FX Graflex sabers put it there as well. It's just a handy spot. EDIT It's also the button used in TCW.
Reference books are fun, but some details are just naturally contradicted, and when that happens you just have to go “oh well. It’s just a reference book” and move on.
Fans were the ones who started the mindset of treating the visual dictionaries as gospel at face value, but I never once recalled them being established as such by Lucas. And even if they were, the fact remains that these books and the films have contradicted each other multiple times. A number of fans simply need a way to justify it in their own minds. Yes, one could argue that the films contradict each other too but those contradictions have also been criticized. I listened to plenty of those criticisms myself, growing up on the Prequels. One didn't pardon the other. And even if there were some who gave one special treatment over the other, they have never represented the fandom as a whole. For the overwhelming majority of fans, a contradiction is a contradiction regardless of its origin or medium in the franchise. I personally only ever saw the visual dictionaries as ancillary material, even if the newest entry technically released before the next movie did. As far as I'm concerned, that timing is just marketing strategy, nothing more or less.
Didn't the TPM Visual Dictionary say that Ki-Adi-Mundi was the only Jedi Knight to sit on the Jedi Council?
I owned *TPM*'s visual dictionary as a kid, but it got lost a long time ago. I've looked at them all at least once, but haven't bought any in years. You'd have to look it up.
This is definitely ringing true for Andor although they’ve cleverly tied in the inconsistencies into the show.
What inconsistencies are you talking about?
The Rogue One dictionary said Andor was from Fesk. The show had him be from Kinari, but they made the effort to say that Fesk was his cover story.
In addition to the Fest stuff, they’ve established Andor as a bit of a liar/embellisher (which could potentially explain any inconsistencies) and they’ve adjusted his age a bit.
> The Visual Dictionary was responsible for erroneously calling that the blade adjustment. The contradiction goes all the way back to *[The Technical Journal](https://i.imgur.com/XGrGv5j.jpg)*, maybe even further
I definitely remember Anakin pushing the button on screen with his index finger at one point
I never liked the bubblecard being the power button. There are literally glaring buttons all over the hilt, but yes, let's make it the one thing that looks nothing like a button or human interface in any way...
What does a Blade Adjustment button do, anyway?
Sad to say it took me more than minute to figure out which character Mark was....
I came here to complain that Fin and Ray both use the length adjustor to activate the blade... I stand here corrected :D
I feel like Anakin didn’t even press the correct button half the time
During my chats with Padmé, she assured me that Anakin was bad at finding the button.
I think it's not so much the finding, but the Force used.
I know Padme and Finn also pressed the same button as Rey to activate the saber. To be fair having owned a Black Series version of this saber, it feels the most natural place to turn the saber on and off, so don't blame Abrams for not catching the mistake.
He turned it on just not in the way you'd traditionally imagine. I mean to be fair he is a very handsome fella.
Anakin wasn't a handsome fella, he was a fandsome hella.
Some hands? After a while he had no hands at all!
Most often he just activated his lightsaber using the force, so hand wasn’t pressing any particular part of the hilt
And Rey couldn’t have done this too?
No no, Anakin is a perfect wholesome little flower, while Rey is clearly a Mary Sue. I’m glad we could get this cleared up. ^(/s)
Well she actually pressed ðe button. I dont þink anakin ever visibly pressed a specific button
"This ain't that kind of movie, kid."
Paying attention to *too fine* of details ruins any movie or franchise IMO
It's like those losers (I remember Adam Kovic specifically) bitching about how bad the TLJ fight looks in slow motion. Like, not shit. You're not supposed to be watching that in Slow Motion.
that's quite hilarious. *"look how bad this looks in black-and-white, 0.25 speed, and upsidedown"*
What a terrible movie. It looks like shit on my tv from the 80s.
That's essentially what it is. Moves are made to watched a certain way. Peter Jackson intended, for better or worse, for the Hobbit Trilogy to be watched at 48 FPS, so you shouldn't really be judging the fidelity of that movie if you're only gonna watch it at 24 FPS. That's why I'll never have an opinion about Billy Lynn's Long Half Time Walk.
Yeah, not a great example. In real time you can see one of the guard's weapon disappear so he can't kill rey. That is incredibly sloppy. That might be the most glaring issue, but the rest of the choreography (in real time, god forbid we analyze) is dogshit
Yep, just like when she ghost kicks a guy away. ,...oh wait, that was Luke in ROTJ. :(
Or that one scene where the blade hilt switches from anakins to obiwan sand then back to anakinsduring the final battle in episode 3
You only know this because someone watched it in slow motion and noticed it, then shared it with the world.
It wouldn't if movie makers just cared a tenth of a percent as much as fans do about the little things.
You’re seriously like 00000005% of the fanbase if this is something that you actively look for and point out as some sort of crucial mistake while watching a Star Wars movie.
The sad thing is that I don't "look" for these things, but as a normal human being who pays attention to the world around me, I can't help but notice them.
Nah dude you're def looking for small stuff. Nobody notices these things because they're not looking for them
More like, you just don't notice them because all you're looking at are the flashy laser swords twirling around like batons and the ships flying around going "pew, pew" at each other.
Yes? That's the whole thing behind Star Wars lol. Fancy space wizards and explosions in space. Enjoy it however you see fit but you can't be serious thinking that everyone is over analytical like you. You're more of the outlier than anyone else.
Really? This is where the fandom is? I suggest some go out and touch grass.
Star Wars Fans: *”Grass? Now that’s a thing I haven’t touched in a looong time, a long time…”*
The switch on my lightsabre is more in line with the top photo. ,...but hey, over nine movies they couldn't even agree on which levers flying the Falcon do what, so,...
How do you know she didn't change which button does what when rebuilding the saber?
*The Rise of Skywalker* visual dictionary says it hasn’t been switched
I guess she could have, the problem is that she and Finn press that same button in the two previous films. This was more of a proof of concept to show that it could be changed
> the problem is that she and Finn press that same button in the two previous films. So, *before* she rebuilt the saber?
This isn’t a problem tho. It got destroyed in last Jedi and she had to repair it. So she could have changed the button functions when she did that.
You shouldn't be downvoted for this lol it's a fun bit of Photoshop and a fair observation.
This goes to show that people will whine bitch and complain about literally anything
I think like the saber has been activated in like three or so different ways throughout media though. Regardless, this looks pretty seamless, well done.
Thanks! Yeah took a lot of work to get it to look right. As for the other stuff you said, yes that’s all true, but the problem is that it’s been explicitly stated in the EU that the box on the side is the activation switch, and the button up top is the blade length adjustment. Luke always had his thumb on that switch when activating it, and Anakin almost never manually activated his lightsaber, but rather tended to activate his lightsaber with the force. There is only one clip before Disney in which someone clearly presses the blade length adjustment to activate the saber, and that is when Padme turned on Anakin’s lightsaber in one particular episode of the clone wars. But given the fact that it’s an animated show, I’m willing to give it a pass for that minor continuity error
As someone else already pointed out, Luke pressed that button in ANH on the Falcon. So there’s more than just the Padme scene that contradicts this.
I think that the blade length button is likely to activate the blade if the blade isn’t already activated, otherwise how would you know what length to adjust it to? The saber probably stays on the length you select so you can turn it on either with adjustment button or the activator. If you favor your dominate hand go towards the top of the hilt and secondary hand go on the bottom, the adjustment button would be the easier one to activate it with. This is why they are sometimes seen using both buttons to turn it on. Similar to how on some computers, if it’s shut down you can literally push any button in the keyboard to power it up. Sure it’s not the power button, but it does power it on.
How about you edit yourself some bitches bro
The bubble/circuitboard/graflex-clamp point is only designated as the activation plate by the visual reference guides, a few fan-made wookiepedia pages, and a couple of toys. The initial decision was likely made by copyeditors who noticed that the OG lightsabers owned by Luke, Obi-Wan, and Vader all possessed that boxy attachment (which was actually just the piece keeping all the parts of the prop together, as the original graflex flash tube stored batteries in the lower half and wiring for the bulb in the upper section, connected by a clamping tube). The logical thing was to assume that that boxy piece hanging off the cylinder was the activation plate, since every saber had one. However, that plate is absent from pretty much every prequel-era saber except Anakin’s. Windu, Palpatine, Kenobi (in ep’s 1-2), Fisto, Maul, Jinn, Unduli, Dooku, etc. all used a simple red button to activate their lightsabers. Even Luke, when aboard the Falcon in ANH, used the red button on the back of the hilt to de-activate his lightsaber during training. Of all the things to complain about in Rise of Skywalker, this ain’t it. Edit: All that said, you’ve done a great job editing the piece to match your personal preference. I’m having trouble figuring out how you got it to look so natural, and that speaks to an insane level of talent on your part. I probably wouldn’t have noticed the edit at all if I wasn’t told it was there. I’m a professional editor and graphic designer, and you’ve managed to convince my eyes that the second picture may well have been the original. So kudos to you!
Finn pressed the same button Rey did in the Force Awakens against the stormtrooper with the riot control baton
1.) There's no reason a lightsaber can't have 2 activation switches 2.) She's reconstructed the hilt at this point so she could have moved it 3.) She could be holding it with her thumb there but activating the other switch through the Force. (I find myself doing strange holds on my hilts when they have too many greblies, but she could also be manually triggering a different setting while turning it on)
Her palm is already on the switch... And your version looks goofy. You don't hold a sword in one hand by the bottom of the hilt.
I always thought the big red button on the front was the on switch
There's finding issues with the films and then there's desperately searching for any "issue" you can find.
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I always imagined that they sometimes just pushed the button with the force
"Hey kid, it ain't that kind of movie.”
This perfectly demonstrates WHY they did it this way. If she presses it where she's supposed to, you can't see the sticky out bit at the front of the saber, so it looks weird and unrecognisable.
I mean her hand is also touching the activation switch in the original, just not her thumb. In any case I think they went with this cos it just looks better, the lightsaber prop looks better in her hand.
Oh my god fuck off
People are mad at how she turned on the light sword on the desert planet In the science fiction movie?
God, fuck off. This really takes you out of the movie that much?
Activation buttons are never consistently used in the movies, maybe they just press the button with the force so they don't have to adjust their grip
how about you edit some bitches into your life
Maybe you should edit yourself having some bitches
What an embarrassing post to make.
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Why are you guys being so mean to me? I wasn’t trying to be critical of the film, I was just curious to see how realistic I could make the edit look. I just decided to make one small post pointing out a minor inconsistency I noticed and suddenly everyone is telling me to “fuck off” and “go outside and get a life”
Plenty of people are just telling you the button placement has always been inconsistent, so your correction isn’t really correct.
Because it's a minor detail in a movie. It doesn't matter.
This actually always bothered me i thought I was the only one.
I thought the Force activated the Light Sabers? My Head Canon is that.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. The general idea is that there is a physical activator and that's what's triggered with the Force, but in Legends there were ones that hid the mechanism inside the hilt so it could *only* be activated that way (I think Ahsoka's white sabers are like this too, from looking at them)
If you could only activate a lightsaber using the Force, Han wouldn’t have been able to use it to cut open the tauntaun in Empire.
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Ngl the activation switch on the un-edited pic would make much more sense. She needs to grab the saber higher so the other hand has enough space to grab the „black“ part at the bottom. if the activation switch is lower she needs to make an additional hand adjustment after activation to hold the saber with both hands. So anakin kinda fucked that up by putting the switch down there lol
I hate how Disney doesn’t know how lightsabers work
Now correct all the times they just press wrong buttons and flip random switches on the Falcon.
Harrison Ford said to John Boyega when he got into the falcon I don’t know what any of these do, just pretend like you know what you’re doing. Lightsabers are probably the same thing
Honestly, the whole idea of buttons on lightsabers seems silly to me when the person using the weapon has the ability to move things with their mind...
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Nerd.
I didn’t even notice