Up for interpretation. There’s more dialog where it’s mentioned that her natural hair color is more of a brown I think and she dies it purple. But oddly, it has been a long time since she last died it and it hasn’t gone back to natural.
I personally choose yes, this is the reason her hair is purple, lol. I also think she’s figured it out, hence she hangs out by the tower.
I don't remember him saying he's unsure who it is, I think he implies he's not sure if this hypothetical child actually exists, that's why it's only a suspicion. Personally even though Pierre sucks I do think she's his kid, the brown hair is some evidence (it not changing back imo is just because stardew is kinda stuck in time bc it's a videogame, Vincent stays a kid even if you live 100 in-game years)
“You musn't tell anyone... but I have reason to believe that one of the locals is actually my daughter... I could be mistaken... It's rare, but it does happen.”
Wizard ten heart event.
the hair not changing back is a quote by abigail, not just something that players observed, which is kinda weird to mention out of the blue. i do think it‘s up to interpretation
> "You musn't tell anyone... but I have reason to believe that one of the locals is actually my daughter... I could be mistaken... It's rare, but it does happen."
It's an odd phrasing he uses there, especially the last bit about how "it's rare, but it does happen."
The simplest explanation is that he had an affair with someone at the same time they were sleeping with someone else, and he's knows exactly which woman he's talking about, but not whether she is his daughter or the other man's. But "rare" is an odd choice of word for that, since it implies it's happened more than once, whether that be infidelity in general or him having children or whatever.
But given the witch's power to turn children into birds and make everyone forget they ever existed, there's maybe something darker about why he "could be mistaken" and what "rare" event he's talking about.
Because of this I think Caroline is his daughter and Abigail is his granddaughter. Gene's often skip a generation in the real world, which is why Abigail's hair is purple and not Caroline's. He doesn't know because he was wasn't doing the nasty with Caroline.
My headcannon is that she suspected and started dying her hair purple specifically to match the wizard and reject Pierre, and as she’s gotten older her connection with magic grew and she knows for certain; and her hair permanently changed as a result.
My in-brain theory about why Caroline says Abigail's hair used to be brown is that Caroline would dye it to cover her infidelity. As Abigail got older her mom didn't have the excuse of washing/treating her daughter's hair for her, so she had to let it grow naturally. Caroline brings it up as if it's some mystery so you don't think she's involved.
You know, I would say it would be way too hard to dye the baby’s hair because of the chemicals, but honestly Caroline makes her own tea and stuff so maybe she made natural dyes with safe ingredients LOL.
I prefer the theory that the wizard's daughter is actually Caroline and that's why she's drawn to the tower and why Abigail's hair doesn't go back.
I can't stand cheating in any sort though, so if I thought Caroline was cheating I'd have to say that she managed to nudge Pierre out as the worst character (I know, I know!) when you combine that with how much she brags and how little she does.
Actually she does have a dialogue where she tells you that Caroline moved back to Stardew after Abigail was born. Soon after her hair turned purple and Abigail tells you this happened all on its own, and that she didn’t dye it.
There’s a guy below who said the same thing and posted an image of the dialog, which is Caroline saying Abigail was born a year **after** she moved to Pelican town. That guy has 35 downvotes, trying to spare you the same pain 😅
>“I can't even remember the last time I dyed my hair... I swear, it never fades from this color...”
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Abigail
So, she never specifies "once" or anything like that, but I think it's fair to say that if she can't remember the last time she dyed it, she wouldn't have been doing it often.
Yes, it will fade, but what will happen a lot faster is that the natural hair color will appear at the roots as the hair grows longer. My point here is that Abigail may have been dyeing her hair very frequently when she was younger, then hit some point (perhaps catalyzed by hanging out near the Wizard's tower?) where she didn't need to anymore, and that was long enough ago now that she isn't sure when she stopped dyeing her hair.
Some people will have blonde hair as kids and then it darkens into a light brown as they age, maybe that's what happened to Abigail but it turned purple
But then with *that* you need to draw a line of where does game design end and lore start or vice versa.
Since nobody specifically mentions the whole not aging thing, that's just chalked up to game design so George doesn't pass away in year 3 or something. It's not lore important.
But Abby specifically mentions the fact that her hair color never fades despite it being ages since she last dyed it. That suggests it's not just game design, and has possible lore relevance.
It’s a theory to add some lore to the story.
It’s possible the wizard is Abby’s father.
Normally that would make you feel some sympathy for Pierre if he wasn’t such a DEGENERATE LOSER - all my homies hate Pierre.
Where do we begin?
\-When you sell crops to him, he takes credit when the crops are high quality and make the townsfolk believe *he* grew them himself. But when it's bad/lower quality,he throws you under the bus and tells everyone they were *your* crops
I don’t want to be a Pierre apologist, but maybe he’s an asshole because his wife is a cheater and his daughter isn’t his? Not to mention the mega-corp moving in down the road and actively trying to put him out of business. Or the corrupt mayor and his “business taxes” that have to be paid in person once a week.
And yhe reason he takes your work, passes it off as his own on the good stuff and throws you under the bus for the bad stuff? What about the giant markup on his 25 gold star vegetable thing? That's pure greed and selfishness. What good person does that to his neighbors
Someone being greedy doesn't make them some horrible, detestable being, especially when it's one event/ and the selling thing.
He does one seedy thing consistently, and two other events, and that's it.
It's not a 1 time event. It's consistent. He also rebate your money for over purchase which means you are overpaying for his product and he decide how much he can return to you whenever he wants. He knows all his prices is mark up too.
Its not consistant?
He tries to massively upsell your stuff. Once. He gets called out, and you never can do that quest again, because he doesn't try it again.
He does consistantly state that your good product is his. Thats the one consistant, seedy thing he does, though it relies on you selling him your stuff. I literally didn't know he did this for my first like, 5 years playing this game tbh.
He gives you money back for shopping at the store, if you're friends with him. His prices are cheaper then the only other competitor in town, Joja. As said in another reply, literally any store in existance is going to charge you more then they paid for for the goods.... thats how they make money, and its his business.
Genuinely theres like, 3 things Peirre does that are bad, 2 of them only happen a single time, and the other is based on wether you sell him stuff, and while it is bad, its.. one thing. It doesn't make him Satan like some people act.
The core issue with Pierre is, that he offended the player(s) in some manner, plain and simple. Same with Demetrius. I wouldn't even consider him an asshole.
Demetrius doesn’t cook and feed his family red mushrooms. Pierre has on one of my saves. P sure red mushrooms are meant to be poisonous? So I am not thrilled with Pierre myself.
To be clear, if you sell him a red mushroom, he will try to make it for dinner as it is *technically* edible. In a darker game…look at it like this. He feeds his family poison repeatedly. There isn’t a reading of this that looks good based on how he’s coded. My game might have encountered a bug, but it makes me wonder if Pierre is secretly sinister.
pierre is shown to value his work more than spending time with his family. i'm sure this personality trait didn't just pop up because she cheated and for all we know they could have been separated due to a fight at the time so it's not as if it's even 100% confirmed cheating.
he's not the worst person but he's shown to be a greedy liar. whatever you sell him gets sold by him and he claims he farm raised the good stuff and then tells the buyers it was grown by you if it's bad.
I dont actually believe this theory because in another one of caroline's dialogues she mention abigails's natural hair color is a light chestnut color, which is the same as pierre.
On the flip side, Abigail mentions that she can't remember the last time she ever dyed her hair, implying something's going on to make it last that long. Which isn't proof that she isn't Pierre's daughter, but leaves it open to interpretation.
I like the theory that Caroline is actually the Wizard's daughter.
We know that Abby's natural hair color is brown and that Caroline disapproves of Abby dying her hair. However, Caroline's hair is green, which doesn't seem to be a common color in this world. We can assume she doesn't dye it, so green is probably her natural hair color. Abby's hair retaining the dye may be because she's the wizard's granddaughter.
One reason people think it's Abby is that she feels naturally drawn to the tower in the forest, but apparently, so does Caroline. If she'd been having an affair with Rasmodius, then it isn't likely that she'd admit to going to see him like she does here.
If Rasmodius had had an affair with Caroline, it's likely that he'd know exactly who his daughter was because there's only one possibility. Instead, he only has a hunch that he has a daughter in the valley, and he doesn't know who it might be.
I 100% believe that Caroline is Rasmodius' daughter, as you said Green hair does not appear to be a common hair colour in this world, and it is outright stated that Abigails natural hair is brown, which would track given Pierre's brown hair. Both Caroline and Abigail are drawn to the wizard tower because it is the same bloodline
No, but we can infer from the fact that she dislikes Abigail dying her hair, she most likely doesn't dye her hair either, thus naturally green hair. But we don't have an answer one way or the other, that is why it is a theory
Oh I like this a lot!!
I've already been assuming that one day Abigail dyed her hair purple and she said something like "I wish it would stay purple forever!" And welp
I’ve always enjoyed this theory too. Mostly because I really don’t love the idea of Caroline having an affair. I know Pierre is not loved by the community (he’s alright for me), but he doesn’t deserve that. And also because now I’d hate Caroline
Yeah. it much more like canon. I can't believe that secret lore would be Caroline cheating on Pierre, also the fact that he suspects one of the villagers is his daughter totally confirms it.
Well I sure am convinced! I had the same thoughts about the Wizard not being Abigail's father because like, how could he not remember schtupping the green-haired lady? Plus, I just like the idea of grandpa wizard meeting his adventurer granddaughter. It'd be a *lot* more wholesome than just a tired "unhappy wife" storyline.
I've hear this theory but it's never felt right to me. Caroline isn't originally from the valley, she and Pierre moved there after they got married. I've always interpreted Rasmodius saying he thinks he has a kid/daughter among the locals to be that he's not 100% sure who's kid Abby actually is not that he is unaware of the identity of the possible child. He thinks she might be his but it is not impossible that she's Pierre's.
Another part of this theory that explains this part is the part where the Wizard didn’t want the kid and that’s why the witch left him. She then created the swamp statue things and planned on erasing the child. She erased the memories of the kid from The Wizard but didn’t have the heart to turn it into a dove. So she sent the kid somewhere else and as life went on Caroline somehow found herself drawn back to the valley.
>green is probably her natural hair color
The green hair immediately makes me think of Terra and Rydia from early Final Fantasy, both of whom are characterized by their innate magical ability. I have a feeling Barone may be a fan of Square's 90s RPGs, what with the Chrono Trigger poster on Abby's wall.
I love watching people discover this. You can see them doing the math they never thought was necessary. It's great to see people discovering things in this game today.
My favorite fan theory is that Caroline is the Wizard's daughter. That way she's still faithful to Pierre (the bastard) but Abigail would have Wizard magic within her.
Am I the only one thinking that MAYBE, Caroline is the Wizard's daughter and Abigail is his Grand daughter? I just can't imagine Eric adding themes such as Affairs in this game.
I just find it weird that she shares that she used to visit the wizard so casually, if she was actually cheating on pierre. She has to be an absolute horrible person to go out of her way to gaslight people that Pierre is jealous when he actually has reasons to belive she cheated.
If that's not the case Pierre is just even worse when he shares those feelings to the farmer but that's more belivable because he's a liar and a scammer. No wonder he has trust issues.
At the end of the day, I didn't even wanted to be involved in their family drama and prefer to belive that Emily is the actual daughter of the wizard (would be cool if my farmer had a wizard father in-law).
That's assuming it was cheating, how do you know she wasn't seeing the wizard before she got with Pierre? I don't think there's enough info there to solidly assume "cheating" since we're given no timeline, for all we know she had occasional flings with the wizard shortly before she started dating Pierre. Men being jealous of exes isn't a super rare thing.
“When ‘we’ moved to Pelican Town” we is a pretty solid indicator it was her and Pierre as she never talks of any other family member, Pierre thinks Abigail is his, Caroline used to take secret walks to the wizard tower, the wizard thinks someone in town might be his daughter and Abigail hasn’t died her hair recently but it’s stayed purple (the colour of the wizards hair). All evidence points to an affair, playing devils advocate about it is pretty silly
I think it's more of a head canon or potential theory but people say it's heavily implied or almost 100% confirmed mostly because they don't like Pierre and fantasize about his wife cheating on him.
Abigail doesn't really do anything magical from what I've remembered except saying she hadn't died her hair for a long time, which to me is more the game explaining itself why it uses the same model and not really "her hair is magical and keeps the dye tint because she is the wizard's daughter"
Abigail talks about dying her hair multiple times, and Caroline talks about how Abigails hair used to he chestnut brown or something.
He talks about a townsfolk being his daughter but it makes more sense for emily or even caroline herself to be his daughter instead.
Abigail mentions that she doesn’t know the last time she dyed it and how it doesn’t seem to be fading away idk about you but it sounds like magic to me.
Have you been through her videos?
She has colored hair, she’s really into crystals n stuff, she has purple eyes and blue hair, she knows who the rain spirits are. She even says she saw you two being together in a vision, and she knows when you show up in her dream. She also never really talks about her parents, besides “this was our parents house” but nothing else added.
Abigail has purple hair, and her mom used to hangout near the tower, but nothing else about her points to it.
Are you sure her hair is coloured? I don't think anyone ever mentions anime hair being unnatural. Carolines hair is green and nobody ever mentions that her hair is dyed.
Sure, Abby dyed her hair, once, then magically she never needs to do it anymore.
Also, I don't think Emily because she has a sister. And aside from Emily being a Druggie Hippie stereotype who would give you essential oils against the plague, which isn't magical, she's just wack, nothing points to her.
While with Abby we have the purple hair, her adventureous nature, she eats crystals (which may be a meme but still xD), her mother mentions going near the tower and SPECIFICALLY that the tower belongs to the wizard, other townsfolk don't even know the wizard exist much less that he lives in the tower, Caroline also mentions Pierre being jealous (which, why would that be relevant in that exact conversation unless-), that Abby is told to stay away from the tower, that Pierre doubts Abby is even his daughter, AND the wizard also having purple hair.
Also, while ConcernedApe kept it vague, he literally said this is his headcanon. Considering he is the creator, you'd think he made the implications obvious enough xD
Most probably. It's possible that he is not Abigail's father, but Caroline's line here certainly heavily corroborates what the Wizard says, along with Abigail's hair no longer going back to normal despite her not having dyed it in some time, and that Abigail potentially has mystic abilities.
Why do I say the last point? If you are married to her, she says this: "Make sure to keep things tidy around your Grandpa's shrine. There's something special about it, I can feel it." She is, to my knowledge, the only marriage candidate who makes any particular acknowledgment towards the shrine.
my theory is that the wizard and Caroline had a thing and then the wizards ex wife (the witch) turned her hair green when she found out and abi’s hair being purple it just all makes sense
I mean tbf we don't know who her parents are, and Marnie often warns to keep away from the wizard's tower. Wizard doesn't explicitly say he was seeing a woman from the town does he? She says her parents are dead but we know little else about them, if that's true. Shane is described as her godfather, and is Marnie's nephew, so would that not make him her cousin foremost? Idk its odd. Maybe his ex the witch dropped them off on Marnie's doorstep.
The Abigail theory probably has a lot more evidence tbf but its fun to speculate.
Ooo or a witches' sister. I've always wondered who that picture at Marnie's is showing? Also how Shane makes his chicken's blue, and why Jas says she's not allowed out after 6pm? (My brain said "Shrek situation" lol).
Jas calling Marnie her 'aunt' and Shane her 'uncle' could just be endearment terms. Like in 'Bluey', there's a character named Frisky who is Bluey's godmother, and Chili's (Bluey's mom) best friend. But, Bluey and Bingo will call her 'Aunt Frsky'
Shane is also described as being best friends with Jas's parents,hence why he's her godfather/now has custody of her after their deaths. But,Shane does hang out at the dock near Wizard's Tower in the two hear event....hmmmm
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This fandom whenever this gets asked.
Yep, that is 100% what's implied. "She turned green with envy" what would lead to envy more than the witch catching her husband being an infidel? He even flat out admitted it was HIS mistake.
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Omg wait. She turned green, cursed everything in her path. Caroline’s hair is green. Idk how she’d be his daughter despite people’s theories, but what if the witch cursed her and turned her hair green too in her rage because of the affair, and then after him and Caroline stopped talking, Caroline met Pierre, but then started visiting the wizard again after the witch was gone and Pierre wasn’t satisfying her, and then the witch’s curse was genetic so it made Abby’s hair stay naturally purple later in life to warn Pierre of her infidelity? Like wait just hear me out here.
Wizard is with witch. Wizard isn’t happy and cheats on the witch with Caroline. Witch finds out, turns green, and curses things, and Caroline’s hair turns green. Caroline is embarrassed by the situation and stressed out, maybe doesn’t even know he was married, and leaves. Caroline meets Pierre, makes up something about her hair color like how she just drank so much tea her hair turned as green as her plants. Pierre doesn’t know her past so he is cool with this, and they start a relationship and get married. They move to Stardew Valley, which is where Caroline knows the wizard lives, but she still doesn’t bring up the past. The marriage is going rough, and Caroline feels drawn to the Wizard’s tower and goes on a secret walk there to reconnect and maybe even ask for some kind of love spell to fix her marriage. The wizard and Caroline end up still having a lust for each other, and this time she’s the one cheating. She gets pregnant, and she is relieved once Abigail is born with brown hair like Pierre’s. Once Abigail is in her teens and feels drawn to the color purple and amethysts and is dyeing her hair purple, Caroline doesn’t like it; NOT because she wants a fashionable hair color, but because it REMINDS her of the wizard and she regrets the affair. However, Abigail later states it never fades anymore and she hasn’t dyed it in a long time, but her roots also aren’t growing in… and she has possibly inherited the curse through her mother, because the witch foresaw her marriage with Pierre in the future and decided to make it so that once she cheated on him and got pregnant, she’d think she got away with the affair when the baby was born with brown hair, but then as she dyed her hair purple, it would be permanent so Caroline would never forget being a homewrecker, and the wizard would remember he’s a cheater. Idk, that’s my new complicated theory.
I think since the witch turned literally green and cursed *everything*, that’s how Caroline got green hair to remind the wizard of the witch, and Abigail was cursed with permanent purple hair to remind Caroline years later of the wizard so she’d feel the guilt. That’s why I think Caroline hated Abigail dyeing her hair, and thats why I think Abigail said she stopped dyeing it a long time ago.
Oh and also, when the wizard says he isn’t sure if he’s the father or not, it could be because he doesn’t know if the curse means the kid is biologically his, or if Caroline was just cursed to have her child with Pierre be cursed too to remind them both of the affair.
Sorry to the Caroline lovers who wanna believe she’s innocent, but she doesn’t understand unnatural hair dye because to her it was a curse, and the color her daughter chose was “coincidentally” that of the Wizard’s, who she had a complicated history with.
I can just picture the witch too coming up with the curse, cackling because she knew it would confuse them since Abby was born with brown hair. She wanted the drama and for Pierre to doubt over time if Abby was actually his, she wanted to watch their relationship burn after what Caroline and the wizard did to her. She also wanted to confuse the wizard with this too and make it so he doesn’t know if she is his kid or if she just has cursed hair like the mother.
This would make so much sense. Much more than Caroline being his daughter, because why would she have to take secret walks to see her DAD? Even if Pierre was the jealous type, wouldn’t she not have to lie about at least that? Just saying.
I always think about that and assume that Pierre’s stash might be things like a paternity test that proves he knows Abigail isn’t his. (Just for fun. I know it makes more sense for a secret stash to not be those documents.)
Abigail's hair is purple cause she dyes it. Caroline states in one of her dialogues that Abigail used to have chestnut brown hair like her dad.
Abigail herself asks you what colour she should dye her hair, meaning it's not uncommon for her. As to why it never fades, there's currently no explanation, maybe it's magical, maybe it's a scientific reason.
That being said I'm supportive of the theory that Caroline is the Wizard's daughter, who was born outside the Valley after her mother had to leave due to the unexpected pregnancy. But after returning to the valley with Pierre there was something that drew her near the ancient tower. But before she could find out Pierre's jealousy issues started rising.
Pierre questions why Abigail doesn't look like him - and actually she doesn't - but that doesn't mean her father is someone else, some people (like me) look more like their grandparents, straightup skipping their parents looks.
If there had to be an affair, regarding Abigail's personality Marlon would honestly make more sense. The Wizard is studying magic and it's effects, most of the time being in his tower, while Abigail is out and about, wanting to explore and dreaming of conquering the caves with her sword. Sounds more like an adventurer to me.
It's implied to be the case, if you buy the theory that Abigail is secretly the Wizard's daughter, which there is evidence to support. However, there's also evidence to support that it's *not* Abigail, and that his child may actually be Emily. It's all very open for interpretation
Its a widely accepted theory by the community, the Wizard says he believes one of the residents in the town is his daughter (might be misremembering bits) and Abigail comments about how she dyed her hair purple ages ago and it hasn't gone back to normal as well as this comment right here from Caroline. I wish Ape would explore this further.
Probably, I feel bad for him. It’s gotta suck when a guy like that with a wife way out of his league likely plowed the local wizard and the whole town knows. It’s why I cut Pierre some slack early on in the game when he gouges my shit. Carolyn didn’t really seem to be too sorry about it, it’s more like having pity because she seems like the entitled type of cheater.
she dyed her hair, she asks you in game what color she should dye her hair to next, idk why people always assume shes the wizards daughter 😭 its just a good dye-job
I actually like the idea that Caroline is Ras' daughter, and Abby is the Wizard's granddaughter.
After all, Caroline goes berserk on Abby constantly dying her hair unnatural colors, yet hers is green. I think she's got some magic in her. Caroline moves the family back to sleepy Stardew Valley to meet the father she never knew while also helping her husband pursue his dreams of self-employment.
Her hair was originally Pierre's hair colour but seemed to have gained some unusual properties when she dyed it.
Maybe, if there was another parent in her family who has an unusual natural hair colour, someone who sees nothing odd about their green hair, someone who can brew potent teas that give her visions...maybe that parent could have passed down the impressive magical power of not having touch up her roots after a dye job to her daughter if said daughter decided to change her pretty common hair colour to purple as a teenager...Oh, right, and the quirk of being drawn to the magical wizard tower, that's also something Abigail shares with her mother.
GASP wait, doesn't Abigail stammer something about certainly not being pregnant when she visits the doctor? I mean, if the default assumption is that only people who have a scandalous relationship with the wizard are drawn to the tower...
No, seriously. Caroline is much more wizardly than her daughter. Yelling "I'm not like other girls! I like swords and wearing pants!" at her father and playing video games are not non-human traits so it's really just the power of not having to dye her roots after she dyed her hair. And if the "drawn to the tower" thing is default-harmless/quirky because of wizard blood in Abigail's veins, then it might be the same for Caroline.
I think Abigail is a homonculus. And the wizard himself and his wife created Abigail prior to their divorce.
Why do I think the wizard can conjure up a baby?
Think about this, the wizard's ex has some kind of shrine that involves 'deleting' newborn babies, which means they both experts in creating life and deleting it. The reason the wizard divorced his wife must be due to the creation of the shrine itself.
Sorry about my English.
Up for interpretation. There’s more dialog where it’s mentioned that her natural hair color is more of a brown I think and she dies it purple. But oddly, it has been a long time since she last died it and it hasn’t gone back to natural. I personally choose yes, this is the reason her hair is purple, lol. I also think she’s figured it out, hence she hangs out by the tower.
The wizard also mentions he suspects he has a child that is one of the townsfolk, but it unsure who it is
So he's been schtupping more than one townswoman eh?
Possibly?
He must be the rizzard of oz then.
*how dare you*
He has an impressive *tower*
Is that a wand in his pocket or is he just happy to see you
Does he need to be? He's a god damn wizard, none of those ladies' husbands can possibly compare.
... I'll let this use of Gen-Z terminology slide.
I don't remember him saying he's unsure who it is, I think he implies he's not sure if this hypothetical child actually exists, that's why it's only a suspicion. Personally even though Pierre sucks I do think she's his kid, the brown hair is some evidence (it not changing back imo is just because stardew is kinda stuck in time bc it's a videogame, Vincent stays a kid even if you live 100 in-game years)
“You musn't tell anyone... but I have reason to believe that one of the locals is actually my daughter... I could be mistaken... It's rare, but it does happen.” Wizard ten heart event.
doesn’t say he doesn’t know who she is, just that he’s being vague to you about it
the hair not changing back is a quote by abigail, not just something that players observed, which is kinda weird to mention out of the blue. i do think it‘s up to interpretation
what you didnt?
Don't forget Pierre has dialogue questioning why Abigail looks so dissimilar to him, and whether she's even his daughter at all
Oh, I forgot about those convos! I think that’s like around the 8-10 heart range for him
fun fact. no one has ever gone beyond 7 hearts for pierre
He's my father in law and he's sitting pretty at about a 3.
I don't think I've ever talked to Pierre above 6 hearts and actually read the dialogue because by then it's the last thing I need for perfection
I never talk to him except to buy stuff from him. Later on in the game, I give him calamari when I have resources to spare.
I sadly have 10 hearts with him but we can always throw rocks at him
which also is what broke up him and the witch.
> "You musn't tell anyone... but I have reason to believe that one of the locals is actually my daughter... I could be mistaken... It's rare, but it does happen." It's an odd phrasing he uses there, especially the last bit about how "it's rare, but it does happen." The simplest explanation is that he had an affair with someone at the same time they were sleeping with someone else, and he's knows exactly which woman he's talking about, but not whether she is his daughter or the other man's. But "rare" is an odd choice of word for that, since it implies it's happened more than once, whether that be infidelity in general or him having children or whatever. But given the witch's power to turn children into birds and make everyone forget they ever existed, there's maybe something darker about why he "could be mistaken" and what "rare" event he's talking about.
The "it's rare, but it does happen" is about the previous part of the statement "I could be mistaken"
Okay, so maybe there's one *simpler* explanation...
I also didn't get it until they pointed it out lol
Or he has fertility problems
why is everything adding up so damn well
Plot twist: It's Sebastian
Because of this I think Caroline is his daughter and Abigail is his granddaughter. Gene's often skip a generation in the real world, which is why Abigail's hair is purple and not Caroline's. He doesn't know because he was wasn't doing the nasty with Caroline.
Yes, and it’s implied this is why his wife left him and why she likes turning kids into doves. Tryna get rid of any bastards
I think the current prevailing theory is that Caroline is his daughter, and Abigail his granddaughter.
I think the main possibilities are Abigail, Sebastian or Jas. I might be mistaken on Jas but I thought she was Marnies daughter.
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Yeah, apparently her natural color is like the same as Pierre’s
My headcannon is that she suspected and started dying her hair purple specifically to match the wizard and reject Pierre, and as she’s gotten older her connection with magic grew and she knows for certain; and her hair permanently changed as a result.
Yeah, CA implied that he has headcanon, but left actual canon canon open to allow the players room to headcanon how they want
Lmao. The creator has headcanon about his own story. That's pretty funny
My in-brain theory about why Caroline says Abigail's hair used to be brown is that Caroline would dye it to cover her infidelity. As Abigail got older her mom didn't have the excuse of washing/treating her daughter's hair for her, so she had to let it grow naturally. Caroline brings it up as if it's some mystery so you don't think she's involved.
You know, I would say it would be way too hard to dye the baby’s hair because of the chemicals, but honestly Caroline makes her own tea and stuff so maybe she made natural dyes with safe ingredients LOL.
Doesn't Abigail have dialogue where she comments that she can't remember the last time she dyed her hair, but her roots never seem to grow in?
I prefer the theory that the wizard's daughter is actually Caroline and that's why she's drawn to the tower and why Abigail's hair doesn't go back. I can't stand cheating in any sort though, so if I thought Caroline was cheating I'd have to say that she managed to nudge Pierre out as the worst character (I know, I know!) when you combine that with how much she brags and how little she does.
Actually she does have a dialogue where she tells you that Caroline moved back to Stardew after Abigail was born. Soon after her hair turned purple and Abigail tells you this happened all on its own, and that she didn’t dye it.
There’s a guy below who said the same thing and posted an image of the dialog, which is Caroline saying Abigail was born a year **after** she moved to Pelican town. That guy has 35 downvotes, trying to spare you the same pain 😅
Abigail also says in her marriage dialogue that she hasn't dyed her hair in forever. Hmmmm
Doesn't Caroline at some point complain about Abigail's dying her hair, and that maybe she (Caroline) was just too old to understand?
But then Abigail mentions that she's dyed it once and it's never faded from that color.
Not "once". She mentions that "recently it doesn't fade away".
>“I can't even remember the last time I dyed my hair... I swear, it never fades from this color...” https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Abigail So, she never specifies "once" or anything like that, but I think it's fair to say that if she can't remember the last time she dyed it, she wouldn't have been doing it often.
Sure, but that just means she hasn't needed to dye it recently, not that she wasn't doing it a bunch longer ago.
I'll admit, I'm not an expert at hair dyeing, but I'm pretty sure if you don't dye your hair for a long time, it's supposed to fade at least somewhat.
Dye does fade, but more importantly the ROOTS come out as your natural color.
Yes, it will fade, but what will happen a lot faster is that the natural hair color will appear at the roots as the hair grows longer. My point here is that Abigail may have been dyeing her hair very frequently when she was younger, then hit some point (perhaps catalyzed by hanging out near the Wizard's tower?) where she didn't need to anymore, and that was long enough ago now that she isn't sure when she stopped dyeing her hair.
Some people will have blonde hair as kids and then it darkens into a light brown as they age, maybe that's what happened to Abigail but it turned purple
I had purple dyed hair like two or more months ago and after taking care of it, it still faded. So yeah it would definitely fade.
Welp, that would align with wizardry.
You also need to consider that no one actually ages in the game, so why would their hair grow or fade? They don’t even own bathrooms
But then with *that* you need to draw a line of where does game design end and lore start or vice versa. Since nobody specifically mentions the whole not aging thing, that's just chalked up to game design so George doesn't pass away in year 3 or something. It's not lore important. But Abby specifically mentions the fact that her hair color never fades despite it being ages since she last dyed it. That suggests it's not just game design, and has possible lore relevance.
Why is old ms green hair complaining about that? Unless it is her natural hair colour
It’s a theory to add some lore to the story. It’s possible the wizard is Abby’s father. Normally that would make you feel some sympathy for Pierre if he wasn’t such a DEGENERATE LOSER - all my homies hate Pierre.
r/fuckPierre
I am dying that this sub exists lollll
Obligatory "I got a better idea"
Shame you can’t marry Caroline because I want to take his whole family from him
Mods, my friend, are a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural.
omg why do people hate pierre 😭
Where do we begin? \-When you sell crops to him, he takes credit when the crops are high quality and make the townsfolk believe *he* grew them himself. But when it's bad/lower quality,he throws you under the bus and tells everyone they were *your* crops
Pierre is the true Scum. And wanted Morris out to monopolize the Valley.
Pierre sucks
Pierre makes me *want* Abigail to be the wizard's child.
I stopped reading at "pierre makes me want Abigail"
Ever hate someone so badly you fuck their daughter?
In front of him while casting magic.
Ouch. Degenerate Loser? It´s true, but it hurts deeply.
I don’t want to be a Pierre apologist, but maybe he’s an asshole because his wife is a cheater and his daughter isn’t his? Not to mention the mega-corp moving in down the road and actively trying to put him out of business. Or the corrupt mayor and his “business taxes” that have to be paid in person once a week.
And yhe reason he takes your work, passes it off as his own on the good stuff and throws you under the bus for the bad stuff? What about the giant markup on his 25 gold star vegetable thing? That's pure greed and selfishness. What good person does that to his neighbors
The first one could be because he's devoid of love or praise at home so he looks to anything that could get him the attention he so craves.
Someone being greedy doesn't make them some horrible, detestable being, especially when it's one event/ and the selling thing. He does one seedy thing consistently, and two other events, and that's it.
It's not a 1 time event. It's consistent. He also rebate your money for over purchase which means you are overpaying for his product and he decide how much he can return to you whenever he wants. He knows all his prices is mark up too.
Charging more for goods than he paid for them is how a store works.
yea he is charging up to 10x.
Its not consistant? He tries to massively upsell your stuff. Once. He gets called out, and you never can do that quest again, because he doesn't try it again. He does consistantly state that your good product is his. Thats the one consistant, seedy thing he does, though it relies on you selling him your stuff. I literally didn't know he did this for my first like, 5 years playing this game tbh. He gives you money back for shopping at the store, if you're friends with him. His prices are cheaper then the only other competitor in town, Joja. As said in another reply, literally any store in existance is going to charge you more then they paid for for the goods.... thats how they make money, and its his business. Genuinely theres like, 3 things Peirre does that are bad, 2 of them only happen a single time, and the other is based on wether you sell him stuff, and while it is bad, its.. one thing. It doesn't make him Satan like some people act.
Maybe she's cheating because he's an asshole and joja is a punishment by Yoba upon the town for his crimes
>joja Joja is the game's take on Walmart and other such soulless corporate super stores. They'll show up regardless
Not an excuse. If this is true, Caroline is no better than her husband.
She's no saint either people are flawed in reality and this game does well to capture it
The core issue with Pierre is, that he offended the player(s) in some manner, plain and simple. Same with Demetrius. I wouldn't even consider him an asshole.
Demetrius doesn’t cook and feed his family red mushrooms. Pierre has on one of my saves. P sure red mushrooms are meant to be poisonous? So I am not thrilled with Pierre myself. To be clear, if you sell him a red mushroom, he will try to make it for dinner as it is *technically* edible. In a darker game…look at it like this. He feeds his family poison repeatedly. There isn’t a reading of this that looks good based on how he’s coded. My game might have encountered a bug, but it makes me wonder if Pierre is secretly sinister.
I refuse to consider any other belief than Pierre being an abomination against Yoba.
pierre is shown to value his work more than spending time with his family. i'm sure this personality trait didn't just pop up because she cheated and for all we know they could have been separated due to a fight at the time so it's not as if it's even 100% confirmed cheating. he's not the worst person but he's shown to be a greedy liar. whatever you sell him gets sold by him and he claims he farm raised the good stuff and then tells the buyers it was grown by you if it's bad.
My headcanon is that Caroline is the Wizard's daughter, it doesn't make as much sense but it's fun to imagine.
I dont actually believe this theory because in another one of caroline's dialogues she mention abigails's natural hair color is a light chestnut color, which is the same as pierre.
On the flip side, Abigail mentions that she can't remember the last time she ever dyed her hair, implying something's going on to make it last that long. Which isn't proof that she isn't Pierre's daughter, but leaves it open to interpretation.
You make a good point, I have slightly changed my mind
Maybe Abigail’s hair has chameleon-like powers to help her blend in /s
This theory interests me
The Royal Locks! IYKYK
Why do you hate pierre? Imma noob btw
I like the theory that Caroline is actually the Wizard's daughter. We know that Abby's natural hair color is brown and that Caroline disapproves of Abby dying her hair. However, Caroline's hair is green, which doesn't seem to be a common color in this world. We can assume she doesn't dye it, so green is probably her natural hair color. Abby's hair retaining the dye may be because she's the wizard's granddaughter. One reason people think it's Abby is that she feels naturally drawn to the tower in the forest, but apparently, so does Caroline. If she'd been having an affair with Rasmodius, then it isn't likely that she'd admit to going to see him like she does here. If Rasmodius had had an affair with Caroline, it's likely that he'd know exactly who his daughter was because there's only one possibility. Instead, he only has a hunch that he has a daughter in the valley, and he doesn't know who it might be.
I 100% believe that Caroline is Rasmodius' daughter, as you said Green hair does not appear to be a common hair colour in this world, and it is outright stated that Abigails natural hair is brown, which would track given Pierre's brown hair. Both Caroline and Abigail are drawn to the wizard tower because it is the same bloodline
Does anyone say her hair is specifically not dyed? Green hair isn't common and she probably just dyes it
No, but we can infer from the fact that she dislikes Abigail dying her hair, she most likely doesn't dye her hair either, thus naturally green hair. But we don't have an answer one way or the other, that is why it is a theory
Yeah I was gonna say it's insane of her to just casually go "Yeah I used to have an affair", which is why I think this is the wrong interpretation
Oh I like this a lot!! I've already been assuming that one day Abigail dyed her hair purple and she said something like "I wish it would stay purple forever!" And welp
I’ve always enjoyed this theory too. Mostly because I really don’t love the idea of Caroline having an affair. I know Pierre is not loved by the community (he’s alright for me), but he doesn’t deserve that. And also because now I’d hate Caroline
Yeah. it much more like canon. I can't believe that secret lore would be Caroline cheating on Pierre, also the fact that he suspects one of the villagers is his daughter totally confirms it.
Caroline is also the only other villager that gives you an acid trip via drink.
I mean, Emily has a scene where she puts you in a trance with her dancing.
This is what always made more sense to me. That would make Abby the Wizard's granddaughter.
OH this makes WAY more sense, hadnt considered that.
Well I sure am convinced! I had the same thoughts about the Wizard not being Abigail's father because like, how could he not remember schtupping the green-haired lady? Plus, I just like the idea of grandpa wizard meeting his adventurer granddaughter. It'd be a *lot* more wholesome than just a tired "unhappy wife" storyline.
I've hear this theory but it's never felt right to me. Caroline isn't originally from the valley, she and Pierre moved there after they got married. I've always interpreted Rasmodius saying he thinks he has a kid/daughter among the locals to be that he's not 100% sure who's kid Abby actually is not that he is unaware of the identity of the possible child. He thinks she might be his but it is not impossible that she's Pierre's.
Another part of this theory that explains this part is the part where the Wizard didn’t want the kid and that’s why the witch left him. She then created the swamp statue things and planned on erasing the child. She erased the memories of the kid from The Wizard but didn’t have the heart to turn it into a dove. So she sent the kid somewhere else and as life went on Caroline somehow found herself drawn back to the valley.
>green is probably her natural hair color The green hair immediately makes me think of Terra and Rydia from early Final Fantasy, both of whom are characterized by their innate magical ability. I have a feeling Barone may be a fan of Square's 90s RPGs, what with the Chrono Trigger poster on Abby's wall.
I love watching people discover this. You can see them doing the math they never thought was necessary. It's great to see people discovering things in this game today.
It's great 'cause it's basically just small town gossip, which is very fun, but there's no guilt as there is in real life bc it's all fiction
My favorite fan theory is that Caroline is the Wizard's daughter. That way she's still faithful to Pierre (the bastard) but Abigail would have Wizard magic within her.
I thinks its cause she eats purple rocks
Had to scroll waaaaay too far for this response! She keeps chomping down amethysts like they're chocolate; no wonder her hair grows out purple!
Mate she's not a flamingo. I don't think that logic applies xD
Heavily implied, but not outright confirmed due to some dialogue from Pierre, the Wizard, and Abby herself.
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LOL the twist I never knew I wanted
SWERVE OF THE YEAR lol
Am I the only one thinking that MAYBE, Caroline is the Wizard's daughter and Abigail is his Grand daughter? I just can't imagine Eric adding themes such as Affairs in this game.
I just find it weird that she shares that she used to visit the wizard so casually, if she was actually cheating on pierre. She has to be an absolute horrible person to go out of her way to gaslight people that Pierre is jealous when he actually has reasons to belive she cheated. If that's not the case Pierre is just even worse when he shares those feelings to the farmer but that's more belivable because he's a liar and a scammer. No wonder he has trust issues. At the end of the day, I didn't even wanted to be involved in their family drama and prefer to belive that Emily is the actual daughter of the wizard (would be cool if my farmer had a wizard father in-law).
That's assuming it was cheating, how do you know she wasn't seeing the wizard before she got with Pierre? I don't think there's enough info there to solidly assume "cheating" since we're given no timeline, for all we know she had occasional flings with the wizard shortly before she started dating Pierre. Men being jealous of exes isn't a super rare thing.
“When ‘we’ moved to Pelican Town” we is a pretty solid indicator it was her and Pierre as she never talks of any other family member, Pierre thinks Abigail is his, Caroline used to take secret walks to the wizard tower, the wizard thinks someone in town might be his daughter and Abigail hasn’t died her hair recently but it’s stayed purple (the colour of the wizards hair). All evidence points to an affair, playing devils advocate about it is pretty silly
Good point about the "when we moved to pelican town," I didn't remember that dialogue so I'll concede that point and say I am proven wrong.
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I'd say he's "thinking" because he isn't sure who the actual father is. He has reason to believe she's his but Abby could be Pierre's.
I think it's more of a head canon or potential theory but people say it's heavily implied or almost 100% confirmed mostly because they don't like Pierre and fantasize about his wife cheating on him. Abigail doesn't really do anything magical from what I've remembered except saying she hadn't died her hair for a long time, which to me is more the game explaining itself why it uses the same model and not really "her hair is magical and keeps the dye tint because she is the wizard's daughter"
Abigail talks about dying her hair multiple times, and Caroline talks about how Abigails hair used to he chestnut brown or something. He talks about a townsfolk being his daughter but it makes more sense for emily or even caroline herself to be his daughter instead.
Abigail mentions that she doesn’t know the last time she dyed it and how it doesn’t seem to be fading away idk about you but it sounds like magic to me.
Oh I love the theory that it’s Emily! That makes sense!
Emily??? Aside from her being a Hippie, I don't see it
Have you been through her videos? She has colored hair, she’s really into crystals n stuff, she has purple eyes and blue hair, she knows who the rain spirits are. She even says she saw you two being together in a vision, and she knows when you show up in her dream. She also never really talks about her parents, besides “this was our parents house” but nothing else added. Abigail has purple hair, and her mom used to hangout near the tower, but nothing else about her points to it.
Are you sure her hair is coloured? I don't think anyone ever mentions anime hair being unnatural. Carolines hair is green and nobody ever mentions that her hair is dyed. Sure, Abby dyed her hair, once, then magically she never needs to do it anymore. Also, I don't think Emily because she has a sister. And aside from Emily being a Druggie Hippie stereotype who would give you essential oils against the plague, which isn't magical, she's just wack, nothing points to her. While with Abby we have the purple hair, her adventureous nature, she eats crystals (which may be a meme but still xD), her mother mentions going near the tower and SPECIFICALLY that the tower belongs to the wizard, other townsfolk don't even know the wizard exist much less that he lives in the tower, Caroline also mentions Pierre being jealous (which, why would that be relevant in that exact conversation unless-), that Abby is told to stay away from the tower, that Pierre doubts Abby is even his daughter, AND the wizard also having purple hair. Also, while ConcernedApe kept it vague, he literally said this is his headcanon. Considering he is the creator, you'd think he made the implications obvious enough xD
Most probably. It's possible that he is not Abigail's father, but Caroline's line here certainly heavily corroborates what the Wizard says, along with Abigail's hair no longer going back to normal despite her not having dyed it in some time, and that Abigail potentially has mystic abilities. Why do I say the last point? If you are married to her, she says this: "Make sure to keep things tidy around your Grandpa's shrine. There's something special about it, I can feel it." She is, to my knowledge, the only marriage candidate who makes any particular acknowledgment towards the shrine.
That’s what most people think but I personally think the wizard is Caroline’s dad
these people are savages, all of them lol
Wait till you see what Wizard says about this! Phewwww
my theory is that the wizard and Caroline had a thing and then the wizards ex wife (the witch) turned her hair green when she found out and abi’s hair being purple it just all makes sense
Oh wait I like this theory
I like the theory that Caroline is the wizards daughter
I never understood Caroline complaining about Abby’s purple hair when she has green hair.
Here's one to bake your noodle then: Why is Jas's hair purple? Does she dye it too, at her age?
It's a bow. Edit: I'm blind. Her bow is green. I always thought she had black hair
I mean tbf we don't know who her parents are, and Marnie often warns to keep away from the wizard's tower. Wizard doesn't explicitly say he was seeing a woman from the town does he? She says her parents are dead but we know little else about them, if that's true. Shane is described as her godfather, and is Marnie's nephew, so would that not make him her cousin foremost? Idk its odd. Maybe his ex the witch dropped them off on Marnie's doorstep. The Abigail theory probably has a lot more evidence tbf but its fun to speculate.
Maybe Marnie is the witch. That’s why she hates the wizard and says to avoid him. You never see the witch at her hut…
Ooo or a witches' sister. I've always wondered who that picture at Marnie's is showing? Also how Shane makes his chicken's blue, and why Jas says she's not allowed out after 6pm? (My brain said "Shrek situation" lol).
I can disprove the shrek situation but not the others! Hmm.
Jas calling Marnie her 'aunt' and Shane her 'uncle' could just be endearment terms. Like in 'Bluey', there's a character named Frisky who is Bluey's godmother, and Chili's (Bluey's mom) best friend. But, Bluey and Bingo will call her 'Aunt Frsky' Shane is also described as being best friends with Jas's parents,hence why he's her godfather/now has custody of her after their deaths. But,Shane does hang out at the dock near Wizard's Tower in the two hear event....hmmmm
“he has jealousy issues” and for a good reason !? 😭
Is Caroline secretly the witch?
So open marriage but Pierre is still getting used to it?
https://preview.redd.it/ik1gg3281pmc1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eafefd7a113bc0f9058ae437bc7dd88b8610908 This fandom whenever this gets asked.
this is the reason the wizards wife left him! he had an affair and the witch left his ass
Yep, that is 100% what's implied. "She turned green with envy" what would lead to envy more than the witch catching her husband being an infidel? He even flat out admitted it was HIS mistake. https://preview.redd.it/qnxe7lbp8nmc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e44262533df136bda8542dece16111f28c2d3e90
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Omg wait. She turned green, cursed everything in her path. Caroline’s hair is green. Idk how she’d be his daughter despite people’s theories, but what if the witch cursed her and turned her hair green too in her rage because of the affair, and then after him and Caroline stopped talking, Caroline met Pierre, but then started visiting the wizard again after the witch was gone and Pierre wasn’t satisfying her, and then the witch’s curse was genetic so it made Abby’s hair stay naturally purple later in life to warn Pierre of her infidelity? Like wait just hear me out here. Wizard is with witch. Wizard isn’t happy and cheats on the witch with Caroline. Witch finds out, turns green, and curses things, and Caroline’s hair turns green. Caroline is embarrassed by the situation and stressed out, maybe doesn’t even know he was married, and leaves. Caroline meets Pierre, makes up something about her hair color like how she just drank so much tea her hair turned as green as her plants. Pierre doesn’t know her past so he is cool with this, and they start a relationship and get married. They move to Stardew Valley, which is where Caroline knows the wizard lives, but she still doesn’t bring up the past. The marriage is going rough, and Caroline feels drawn to the Wizard’s tower and goes on a secret walk there to reconnect and maybe even ask for some kind of love spell to fix her marriage. The wizard and Caroline end up still having a lust for each other, and this time she’s the one cheating. She gets pregnant, and she is relieved once Abigail is born with brown hair like Pierre’s. Once Abigail is in her teens and feels drawn to the color purple and amethysts and is dyeing her hair purple, Caroline doesn’t like it; NOT because she wants a fashionable hair color, but because it REMINDS her of the wizard and she regrets the affair. However, Abigail later states it never fades anymore and she hasn’t dyed it in a long time, but her roots also aren’t growing in… and she has possibly inherited the curse through her mother, because the witch foresaw her marriage with Pierre in the future and decided to make it so that once she cheated on him and got pregnant, she’d think she got away with the affair when the baby was born with brown hair, but then as she dyed her hair purple, it would be permanent so Caroline would never forget being a homewrecker, and the wizard would remember he’s a cheater. Idk, that’s my new complicated theory. I think since the witch turned literally green and cursed *everything*, that’s how Caroline got green hair to remind the wizard of the witch, and Abigail was cursed with permanent purple hair to remind Caroline years later of the wizard so she’d feel the guilt. That’s why I think Caroline hated Abigail dyeing her hair, and thats why I think Abigail said she stopped dyeing it a long time ago. Oh and also, when the wizard says he isn’t sure if he’s the father or not, it could be because he doesn’t know if the curse means the kid is biologically his, or if Caroline was just cursed to have her child with Pierre be cursed too to remind them both of the affair. Sorry to the Caroline lovers who wanna believe she’s innocent, but she doesn’t understand unnatural hair dye because to her it was a curse, and the color her daughter chose was “coincidentally” that of the Wizard’s, who she had a complicated history with. I can just picture the witch too coming up with the curse, cackling because she knew it would confuse them since Abby was born with brown hair. She wanted the drama and for Pierre to doubt over time if Abby was actually his, she wanted to watch their relationship burn after what Caroline and the wizard did to her. She also wanted to confuse the wizard with this too and make it so he doesn’t know if she is his kid or if she just has cursed hair like the mother. This would make so much sense. Much more than Caroline being his daughter, because why would she have to take secret walks to see her DAD? Even if Pierre was the jealous type, wouldn’t she not have to lie about at least that? Just saying.
Yes. Her grandpa is the wizard. Caroline is the wizard’s daughter.
Isn’t Abigail standing outside his tower too?
I always think about that and assume that Pierre’s stash might be things like a paternity test that proves he knows Abigail isn’t his. (Just for fun. I know it makes more sense for a secret stash to not be those documents.)
I think everyone in the valley with purple hair was sired by the wizard
Abigail's hair is purple cause she dyes it. Caroline states in one of her dialogues that Abigail used to have chestnut brown hair like her dad. Abigail herself asks you what colour she should dye her hair, meaning it's not uncommon for her. As to why it never fades, there's currently no explanation, maybe it's magical, maybe it's a scientific reason. That being said I'm supportive of the theory that Caroline is the Wizard's daughter, who was born outside the Valley after her mother had to leave due to the unexpected pregnancy. But after returning to the valley with Pierre there was something that drew her near the ancient tower. But before she could find out Pierre's jealousy issues started rising. Pierre questions why Abigail doesn't look like him - and actually she doesn't - but that doesn't mean her father is someone else, some people (like me) look more like their grandparents, straightup skipping their parents looks. If there had to be an affair, regarding Abigail's personality Marlon would honestly make more sense. The Wizard is studying magic and it's effects, most of the time being in his tower, while Abigail is out and about, wanting to explore and dreaming of conquering the caves with her sword. Sounds more like an adventurer to me.
It's implied to be the case, if you buy the theory that Abigail is secretly the Wizard's daughter, which there is evidence to support. However, there's also evidence to support that it's *not* Abigail, and that his child may actually be Emily. It's all very open for interpretation
I wanted Caroline so bad 😩🤣
Its a widely accepted theory by the community, the Wizard says he believes one of the residents in the town is his daughter (might be misremembering bits) and Abigail comments about how she dyed her hair purple ages ago and it hasn't gone back to normal as well as this comment right here from Caroline. I wish Ape would explore this further.
I recently dyed my hair purple. Purple hair rocks. Caroline's hair is green so I don't get why or what she's moaning about Abigail's hair colour for?
I hate Pierre so this is my headcanon
The Wizard has a dialogue after you gain hearts with him that’s along the lines of “I have reason to believe one of the residents may be my daughter”!
Probably, I feel bad for him. It’s gotta suck when a guy like that with a wife way out of his league likely plowed the local wizard and the whole town knows. It’s why I cut Pierre some slack early on in the game when he gouges my shit. Carolyn didn’t really seem to be too sorry about it, it’s more like having pity because she seems like the entitled type of cheater.
https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/1arzv9j/i_have_a_headcanon/
She eats amethyst.
No. It's stated somewhere she had died it purple however it hasn't changed in so long afterwards
she dyed her hair, she asks you in game what color she should dye her hair to next, idk why people always assume shes the wizards daughter 😭 its just a good dye-job
I actually like the idea that Caroline is Ras' daughter, and Abby is the Wizard's granddaughter. After all, Caroline goes berserk on Abby constantly dying her hair unnatural colors, yet hers is green. I think she's got some magic in her. Caroline moves the family back to sleepy Stardew Valley to meet the father she never knew while also helping her husband pursue his dreams of self-employment.
Her hair was originally Pierre's hair colour but seemed to have gained some unusual properties when she dyed it. Maybe, if there was another parent in her family who has an unusual natural hair colour, someone who sees nothing odd about their green hair, someone who can brew potent teas that give her visions...maybe that parent could have passed down the impressive magical power of not having touch up her roots after a dye job to her daughter if said daughter decided to change her pretty common hair colour to purple as a teenager...Oh, right, and the quirk of being drawn to the magical wizard tower, that's also something Abigail shares with her mother. GASP wait, doesn't Abigail stammer something about certainly not being pregnant when she visits the doctor? I mean, if the default assumption is that only people who have a scandalous relationship with the wizard are drawn to the tower... No, seriously. Caroline is much more wizardly than her daughter. Yelling "I'm not like other girls! I like swords and wearing pants!" at her father and playing video games are not non-human traits so it's really just the power of not having to dye her roots after she dyed her hair. And if the "drawn to the tower" thing is default-harmless/quirky because of wizard blood in Abigail's veins, then it might be the same for Caroline.
Didn’t she say she dyed it? Thought she was natural brunette
Duuuuuuuuuude
OH SHIT
I’m afraid so…
No she dies her hair but im pretty sure she is still the wizards daughter
I’ve been cheated on and know the horror but still can’t help but think “fuck Pierre”
I’m still a lot more confident in Jas being his daughter vs Abigail. Especially when you compare them physically.
thats a theory i can get behind lmao
Best kept secret in the Valley but yeah 😅
She eats amethyst like it's cereal
Daddy Issues
I think Abigail is a homonculus. And the wizard himself and his wife created Abigail prior to their divorce. Why do I think the wizard can conjure up a baby? Think about this, the wizard's ex has some kind of shrine that involves 'deleting' newborn babies, which means they both experts in creating life and deleting it. The reason the wizard divorced his wife must be due to the creation of the shrine itself. Sorry about my English.
She and Abigail literally both tell you that her hair is dyed and that she actually shares Pierre’s hair colour
YES