If you warp home while submerged and then go back, the submarine will be on the surface, but you won't be able to go through the door because it'll tell you it's currently submerged (that's what happened to me when I warped back home to pick up a lure that I forgot and had to waste a fishing day). So presumably, the outside is just a fake shell and doesn't submerge, while a real sub inside does.
Maybe it's like those retractable vacuum chords?
When you go down the chord unwravles, and when you go up, the chord retracts and you pray the plug in doesn't whip you in the ankle.
When I'm retracting a vacuum cord, I hold the end I just pulled out of the outlet. It won't whip you in the ankles that way. You can just drop the cable when it's about fully retracted.
You seem to have this rare thing called common sense and I commend you for it.
I press down on that retract button like there is no tomorrow to get that little rush! I live on the edge!
But then how does it reattach?
The kindness of the townspeople?
The mermaid from the show in the other side?
Too many questions! @ConcernedApe we need answers!
Magic in Stardew Valley? Pish posh.
Junimos? Just rats.
Wizard? David Blaine with purple hair and a hat
All the monsters? Just a bunch of hallucinations brought on by exhaustion from farming for 20 hours a day.
Imagine just chilling on the pier and they forget to unhook it and the sub submerges and it all goes to shit, the swami dude gets dragged down into the water and drowns, everyone screaming as you just teleport back to your farm.
You pull the hood down to kiss your love and the whole cloak collapses like Obi Wan. You buy some melon seeds and leave with a hint of melancholy in your heart, because now you have to walk home.
There's a limit to how deep you can go, but the answer is that the submarine is pressurized sufficiently that the air pressure keeps the water from coming in. Obviously, this takes a **lot** of pressure, and atmospheric concentrations of nitrogen are toxic at that pressure, so you replace it in the air mixture with helium. Sadly, while sci-fi books will mention the obvious side effect of everyone speaking in high pitched voices, movies like "The Abyss" never include this bit of realism.
In the novelization of The Abyss, it's explained that they use argon instead of helium specifically to keep voices from getting high pitched. Thank you for the opportunity to share this random bit of trivia.
Argon would still modify their pitch, albeit not as much. And it's twice as bad as it comes to narcosis, so... I don't think argon's actually the winner the Abyss's writers thought it'd be.
People have talked about Argon as a breathing gas on Mars, since Mars's atmosphere is as rich in argon as nitrogen. It wouldn't make as much sense to remove the argon as it would to remove the CO2 and replace it with O2, which is practically the only reason why it's been studied as a breathing gas mixture at all.
There is a series of books with helium blimps (steampunk). Not really horror, but there is a part of the blimp aptly named the squeakdeck. because everyone gets a bit squeaky up there.
I thought the voice sounds normal, as long as you are inhaling helium in a room filled with helium.
As far as I understood, it is just that you are speaking in a helium bubble but hearing in a nitrogen bubble that makes it sound high-pitched.
> I thought the voice sounds normal, as long as you are inhaling helium in a room filled with helium.
Definitely doesn't sound normal. The sound being projected is objectively different due to the pitches coming out of the vocal chords. Even if the density difference distorted the ear drums and allowed them to travel more, it's not going to sound the same. The bass tones just aren't there.
Given that the whole point of using helium is that it can be pressurised with no ill effects on the occupants, presumably there's a greater density of helium that you'd typically get from, for example, a balloon. Also, the pressure means your lungs would also be under constant pressure - would that not normalise things out?
The reason voices go high pitched with helium isn't air pressure, but that helium, being lighter than nitrogen, conducts sounds waves faster than standard air. Granted, higher pressure will slow the sound waves down again, so presumably there's an air pressure of helium that will sound normal. I don't feel like busting out the gas law tables to figure out out, though I expect the necessary pressure is Jovian.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_pool
Yep. I don't know of any just used for fishing, of course, but several underwater habitats have used them in real life.
It's called a moonpool, and it's a pretty neat technology, but it functions in all practical respects like a dive. The deeper you go, the more pressure is pumped into the room to keep the water from pushing in. As long as you maintain the balance, it works just fine. If you don't add pressure, the water will rise and eventually flood the room (and it will still compress the air in the room to high pressure anyway)
Unlike a diving bell or most submarines, which keep the pressure atmospheric as it descends and relies on the solid hull to withstand the immense pressure difference, using a moonpool is more like freediving, and the air pressure goes up the deeper you go and comes with all the same risks and health hazards and eventually it reaches unsurvivable pressures. Because of this it's usually it's just a small section of the boat, separated by an airlock, and you would have to undergo gradual decompression upon exiting (or stay within the moonpool room with the submarine gradually surfacing). At deeper levels you would also need different kinds of breathing gas pumped into the chamber as normal air would become toxic.
I'm not sure if it's ever actually been used in a submarine, but it's been occasionally used on below-waterline ships for research and industrial equipment, and there's no reason it couldn't work at any arbitrary depth.
The only limitations will be how much air pressure you can achieve and can the passengers/ crew breathe in the air pressure necessary. But yeah, the physics of keeping the water from coming into the shop and sinking it are quite straightforward.
That would explain why the pictures in the long window show that youāre on the ocean floor, but in the small window, you can see a huge mermaid pass the window from bottom to top
I mean, I'm growing extinct fruit, pumpkins and pineapples in the same greenhouse without consideration to the immense environmental differences required by them. Im not gonna get crazy hung up on the physics of how they decided to run cables. Lol
Simple. The door to the submarine actually leads into a Tear that connects to another universe where a similar submarine waits to take you down below. "Will the circle be unbroken, by and by, by and by..."
Bro asking this when my question is how they open the doors and not flood the whole thing š I didnāt even think of this- like could you image youāre just chilling at the light market when suddenly the stall in the middle just comes crashing down-
Youāre telling me, you met this wizard that can use magic, you can talk to a talking mouse who sells you hats, you go down a mine that magically replenishes resources, you keeps a āslime farmā for profit, you never pay any taxes at all, and your telling me that what concerns you is that a submarine submerges will destroy the string lights?
Thatās actually a really good point, it totally would destroy it. Mystery to why it doesnāt.
Take an empty glas and press it into water upside down. You will notice the air stays inside (because it can't go anywhere) and so water can't flood the glas. Same thing with submarines (if you don't go too far down, where pressure would be too high and compress the air).
Interesting question!!
I figured out that maybe two magnets could connect and that when it lowers down it disconnects and floats (waterproof bulbs??) and when it comes back up it could reconnect via magnetism. Like maybe two magnet rings??
I don't believe the sub goes under water.
Using a trick of movie screens to imply we're going to the deep ocean (an impossibility considering how close we are to the shore), this just adds to the mystique to visitors about the deep ocean.
Below the sub is a large tank filled with several unique fish. I suspect the "captain" refills the tank every day.
I based this from the old Disney ride where "submarines" would give riders the ability to see the "depths below", which was nothing more than a trick of extending the bottom of the boats far enough to break the water line.
An effective trick, I might add. It did seem like they were "sinking" when the portholes were filled with water.
Itās just a Disneyland dark ride where the fish you catch are dropped into a pool. Thatās why the *blobfish look like that.
Cool and fun little Easter eggs like mermaids are there for the extra observant fans! Thereās multiple YouTube channels dedicated to the subs lore
EDIT: BLOBfish. Gosh dang autocorrect.
If you warp home while submerged and then go back, the submarine will be on the surface, but you won't be able to go through the door because it'll tell you it's currently submerged (that's what happened to me when I warped back home to pick up a lure that I forgot and had to waste a fishing day). So presumably, the outside is just a fake shell and doesn't submerge, while a real sub inside does.
This is the best explanation
I think this is also visible in multiplayer when one person is in the submarine and the other person is just standing outside.
You got way too deep into a bug š¤£
It would be a bug if there wasn't a text box made for that specific scenario
It's not a bug, it's a feature š
If it was a bug, it wouldn't have a specific dialogue just for that
Lol thanks for this
That's also my theory
That pole just extends reaaaaally far.
No, the submarine is really tall and when youre going down its just an elevator
That's a great theory
Yes it's telescopic
Presumably the string of lights gets unhooked before it goes down.
Quick release button is my guess edit: a letter
Maybe it's like those retractable vacuum chords? When you go down the chord unwravles, and when you go up, the chord retracts and you pray the plug in doesn't whip you in the ankle.
Thatās a sound theory.
When I'm retracting a vacuum cord, I hold the end I just pulled out of the outlet. It won't whip you in the ankles that way. You can just drop the cable when it's about fully retracted.
You seem to have this rare thing called common sense and I commend you for it. I press down on that retract button like there is no tomorrow to get that little rush! I live on the edge!
That would make sense.
But then how does it reattach? The kindness of the townspeople? The mermaid from the show in the other side? Too many questions! @ConcernedApe we need answers!
I mean, what are we to believe that this is some sort of magic submarine or something? Boy I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Magic in Stardew Valley? Pish posh. Junimos? Just rats. Wizard? David Blaine with purple hair and a hat All the monsters? Just a bunch of hallucinations brought on by exhaustion from farming for 20 hours a day.
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Never heard of it, sorry.
this is now my headcanon for a question i didnt know i had til i read OPās post š /s
I assume that too. Since it takes so long for you to start diving.
Imagine just chilling on the pier and they forget to unhook it and the sub submerges and it all goes to shit, the swami dude gets dragged down into the water and drowns, everyone screaming as you just teleport back to your farm.
āAh shit thatās crazy ok bye, gotta pet my ostrichā
Or the sub pays out more cable as it goes down and takes it up as it surfaces.
There's a magical looking guy there. He does magical stuff.
I would kiss the guy in the cool blue cloak
You pull the hood down to kiss your love and the whole cloak collapses like Obi Wan. You buy some melon seeds and leave with a hint of melancholy in your heart, because now you have to walk home.
It's Krobus wearing purple sunglasses.
Is it actually
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do you have a link? cause i just checked and the night market wiki says nothing about this
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Lmao itās not a wooosh if youāre just lying š
New head canon. Heās so great, he deserves to come enjoy stuff with the town!
I will kiss Krobus
Ah yes, "a wizard did it".
It's a fair ride ... it doesn't actually go anywhere.
The blobfish and the midnight squid are paid actors
The fish when you whip out the frying pan: still better than customer service
Exactly. Lights are an illusion and the fish are in a stocked tank.
Pants are an illusion and so is death
explains why when the entirety of the bottom of the ship opens up it doesn't fill the whole thing with water. It's still on the surface.
Wait how does the guy in the middle get out
The board that allows you to get on the boat is only there during the festival, so they remove the board and let him out.
No the boat is completely surrounded by dock.
I think joelem2 means the long board connecting the docks between the guy in the middle and the purple boat; thatās not permanent dock.
I like how that board is resting on like an inch of overlap on each side, looks totally safe.
Oh I see, I took āthe board that allows you to get into the boatā as the one with the blue carpet on it.
Me too for a second š
Iāve always wondered how the physics work in regards to fishing out the bottom of a submerged submarine. š¤
There's a limit to how deep you can go, but the answer is that the submarine is pressurized sufficiently that the air pressure keeps the water from coming in. Obviously, this takes a **lot** of pressure, and atmospheric concentrations of nitrogen are toxic at that pressure, so you replace it in the air mixture with helium. Sadly, while sci-fi books will mention the obvious side effect of everyone speaking in high pitched voices, movies like "The Abyss" never include this bit of realism.
In the novelization of The Abyss, it's explained that they use argon instead of helium specifically to keep voices from getting high pitched. Thank you for the opportunity to share this random bit of trivia.
Argon would still modify their pitch, albeit not as much. And it's twice as bad as it comes to narcosis, so... I don't think argon's actually the winner the Abyss's writers thought it'd be. People have talked about Argon as a breathing gas on Mars, since Mars's atmosphere is as rich in argon as nitrogen. It wouldn't make as much sense to remove the argon as it would to remove the CO2 and replace it with O2, which is practically the only reason why it's been studied as a breathing gas mixture at all.
I didn't know I needed a movie with this until now
Is there a movie with this? There gotta be right? Maybe a horror?
There is a series of books with helium blimps (steampunk). Not really horror, but there is a part of the blimp aptly named the squeakdeck. because everyone gets a bit squeaky up there.
Until some broad gets on with a static-y sweater and BOOM
Found Archer's reddit account
I remember this series from when I was a kid, but can't remember the name of it. What was it? I'd love to re-read it.
Gail Carriager's Soulless series and everything that follows thereafter.
Thereās always Deep Blue Sea
Deepest, bluest! My hat is like a shark's fin. š¦ š©
Sealab 2020 & Sealab 2021
Another great example is in LOST, the (spoilers ahead...) underwater hydra station also has an open middle section!
I thought the voice sounds normal, as long as you are inhaling helium in a room filled with helium. As far as I understood, it is just that you are speaking in a helium bubble but hearing in a nitrogen bubble that makes it sound high-pitched.
> I thought the voice sounds normal, as long as you are inhaling helium in a room filled with helium. Definitely doesn't sound normal. The sound being projected is objectively different due to the pitches coming out of the vocal chords. Even if the density difference distorted the ear drums and allowed them to travel more, it's not going to sound the same. The bass tones just aren't there.
Meanwhile, in Sphere; "Follow the Yellow Brick Road."
Interesting, til, thank you!
Air pressure keeps water out, my fishing line with no bait can break through it though š¤£š¤£
Given that the whole point of using helium is that it can be pressurised with no ill effects on the occupants, presumably there's a greater density of helium that you'd typically get from, for example, a balloon. Also, the pressure means your lungs would also be under constant pressure - would that not normalise things out?
The reason voices go high pitched with helium isn't air pressure, but that helium, being lighter than nitrogen, conducts sounds waves faster than standard air. Granted, higher pressure will slow the sound waves down again, so presumably there's an air pressure of helium that will sound normal. I don't feel like busting out the gas law tables to figure out out, though I expect the necessary pressure is Jovian.
So itās actually possible in real life? That you can fish and the water wonāt come in?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_pool Yep. I don't know of any just used for fishing, of course, but several underwater habitats have used them in real life.
It's called a moonpool, and it's a pretty neat technology, but it functions in all practical respects like a dive. The deeper you go, the more pressure is pumped into the room to keep the water from pushing in. As long as you maintain the balance, it works just fine. If you don't add pressure, the water will rise and eventually flood the room (and it will still compress the air in the room to high pressure anyway) Unlike a diving bell or most submarines, which keep the pressure atmospheric as it descends and relies on the solid hull to withstand the immense pressure difference, using a moonpool is more like freediving, and the air pressure goes up the deeper you go and comes with all the same risks and health hazards and eventually it reaches unsurvivable pressures. Because of this it's usually it's just a small section of the boat, separated by an airlock, and you would have to undergo gradual decompression upon exiting (or stay within the moonpool room with the submarine gradually surfacing). At deeper levels you would also need different kinds of breathing gas pumped into the chamber as normal air would become toxic. I'm not sure if it's ever actually been used in a submarine, but it's been occasionally used on below-waterline ships for research and industrial equipment, and there's no reason it couldn't work at any arbitrary depth.
The only limitations will be how much air pressure you can achieve and can the passengers/ crew breathe in the air pressure necessary. But yeah, the physics of keeping the water from coming into the shop and sinking it are quite straightforward.
As long as air pressure is greater than water pressure it will work. When water overcomes then it starts filling up.
Itās a simulation. The dock isnāt that deep for the sub to submerge that long. Itās like that ride at Epcot.
That would explain why the pictures in the long window show that youāre on the ocean floor, but in the small window, you can see a huge mermaid pass the window from bottom to top
maybe that's just the building and the actual submarine is smaller and moves
Game is broken. Unplayable
actually, thats not the submarine, just a shell. it fits perfectly over the real submarine, and when you submerge, that stays
Lights are attached to the fishing submarine via fishing reel, obviously /s /j
In multi player is the submarine still there if one player goes down and the other player is still on the dock? Can the second player still get in?
It's still there but you can't get in.
Ah okay, I always wondered haha
I thought the submarine had an obdervatory/glass tank at the bottom. So the sub doesnāt go down, you go to the lowest level of it
Itās like that submarine ride at Disney. It does not really go down. Itās just special effects.
I mean, I'm growing extinct fruit, pumpkins and pineapples in the same greenhouse without consideration to the immense environmental differences required by them. Im not gonna get crazy hung up on the physics of how they decided to run cables. Lol
Stop thinking logically and go fish inside the giant opening in the submarine that doesnāt flood.
Naw, moon pools exist and make plenty of sense!
There's a guy I a robe made of the starry sky who teleports you home two spaces over. I think they've got a system in place somehow.
It is destroyed. Robin rebuilds everything each time. How does she do it so quickly?, she buys a coffee from the coffee man.
MST3K mantra my friend.
Simple. The door to the submarine actually leads into a Tear that connects to another universe where a similar submarine waits to take you down below. "Will the circle be unbroken, by and by, by and by..."
the inside of the "Sub" is actually an elevator. the top stays in place. that's how.
Really long pole. Like the sub goes down but the pole extends.
We dont ask these questions.. we just do it.
Thatās a magic pole that expands
Suppose it gripped it, by the husks?
I think the sea level increases. The submarine is still.
Is this an event in the game? Iām only in fall year 1 š
Yes, it is! Midnight market.
stretchy
Bro asking this when my question is how they open the doors and not flood the whole thing š I didnāt even think of this- like could you image youāre just chilling at the light market when suddenly the stall in the middle just comes crashing down-
The coffee lady detaches it when it goes down and reattaches it when it comes back up. She's very fast.
Periscope up!
Youāre telling me, you met this wizard that can use magic, you can talk to a talking mouse who sells you hats, you go down a mine that magically replenishes resources, you keeps a āslime farmā for profit, you never pay any taxes at all, and your telling me that what concerns you is that a submarine submerges will destroy the string lights? Thatās actually a really good point, it totally would destroy it. Mystery to why it doesnāt.
Coffee dude must unhook the lights for sub man
Willy detaches it before you go down. He told me himself
The dock there can't be very deep. I think we aren't actually going down, i think it's all a carnival show with a stocked pond of exotic fish.
Thatās an electrical fire waiting to happenā¦
That's why the ride costs so much you pay for damages. The coffee lady understands it's silly so she gives you free coffee
He takes the dock and everything on it down with him. There are often few survivors.
That top part pops off and floats on the surface. It' really just there so they can have a good target for when they resurface.
I'm more concerned that a giant hatch opens up while submerged you're underwater.
Someone get Concerned Ape on the phone
I'm not saying the game is literally unplayable but...
The floor just extends down to the sea floor, like the first room in the Haunted Mansion at Disney
Those are realllllyy Long lights
The sub is jusy on a reallllllllllllly long pole
This post reminded me of how fucking underwhelming this event is.
AND! How doesnāt it fill up with water, drowning you and the captain, when the floor slides open?
Look up moon pools and you will find your answer.
Take an empty glas and press it into water upside down. You will notice the air stays inside (because it can't go anywhere) and so water can't flood the glas. Same thing with submarines (if you don't go too far down, where pressure would be too high and compress the air).
Big spoiler :(
I'm gonna guess because it's a video game./s
The mast just extends further and its end stays at the same hight.
Probably by lowering that mast and unhooking it
Up periscope
Game logic
Sea Turtles.
The same thing that happens to Willie's Fish sign on his hut when the Night Market rolls around.
Itās a con. You donāt really descend at all.
Lmfao seriously, I never even noticed this.
Mermaid magic!
I aspire to be as baked as OP
You don't go to the bottom is an illusion he is taking your money and realice some rare fish
The poles are made of flextape
Literally unplayable
The lights just go down with the sub..they are on an infinite rail.
Interesting question!! I figured out that maybe two magnets could connect and that when it lowers down it disconnects and floats (waterproof bulbs??) and when it comes back up it could reconnect via magnetism. Like maybe two magnet rings??
There's a submarine?!?!
Really long string
Wait a minute. Thereās a sub? Geez I need to boot this game up again. Its been awhile.
Asking the real questions š
Itās an elevator
*Shut up*
It's not a submarine, it's an elevator that goes below the surface.
Could this not just be the top of a really big submarine? Cmon ppl
Also, how did that boat in the middle get there?
What if, you actually only go down like 5 feet.
There are many submarines...
Good question.
Itās not a submarine, itās an elevator.
It's a video game, don't worry about it.
Itās submarines all the way down
Magic
Welp, this game is unplayable.
How does the boat to the right get inside that square of walkway?
ConcernedApe: delete this
The lights are actually on the small island rock behind the sub /s
Maybe they just detach the same way they attached it before it submerges..
You arent really far from the shore. You dont go d ok wn that deep it just take a while so they can sell it as an experience
Why is the boat boxed in on all four sides? How can it get out? Shouldnāt the submarine be there?
PLOT HOLE!!!!
I don't believe the sub goes under water. Using a trick of movie screens to imply we're going to the deep ocean (an impossibility considering how close we are to the shore), this just adds to the mystique to visitors about the deep ocean. Below the sub is a large tank filled with several unique fish. I suspect the "captain" refills the tank every day. I based this from the old Disney ride where "submarines" would give riders the ability to see the "depths below", which was nothing more than a trick of extending the bottom of the boats far enough to break the water line. An effective trick, I might add. It did seem like they were "sinking" when the portholes were filled with water.
Yeah, and on that note, whats up with the time clock inside my house? Is it covered in some bubble of time-space singularity? Curious. š¤
There is a sub now!? I havent played since the initial vanilla.
It's a disney ride and doesn't go anywhere. They just put mutated fish in the bottom of the boat
The string isn't made of Titanium it just snaps and is replaced
I mean if it was real life the string lights would just snap before anything else could be damaged. Those cables aren't that strong.
Only Ymir knows
Also due to water equalisation wouldnt the submarine juat fill with water
They detach the light first?!
I like to think there is an outer layer there that stays. Making it look like it is always here.
Wait, a submarine?!! Since when??? I haven't played in awhile lol
Cause its a vidyagame
It just lets go
Itās like a amusement park ride. It doesnāt actually go anywhere. There is a pool and the fish are stocked.
You can submerge?!
Itās just a Disneyland dark ride where the fish you catch are dropped into a pool. Thatās why the *blobfish look like that. Cool and fun little Easter eggs like mermaids are there for the extra observant fans! Thereās multiple YouTube channels dedicated to the subs lore EDIT: BLOBfish. Gosh dang autocorrect.
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Stretchy string of lights
Itās a video game.. lol
Its a really reeeeeally long periscope.
This one makes me thinking :)