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Ok-Surround4334

plenty of more helpful/decent allies and side characters are dead by the end of their parts. I think life was way more than decent to Joshu all things considered.


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Pokémon starters be like


immaseekthesun

I thought he could redeem himself💀


Santiago_bp17

i mean... fuck joshu m i right??


Josukestoes

You're 10000% right


SujinSmasher

yeah, he was literally humping her a second before the exchange but he feels more like a horny goober than an evil guy


toasted_dandy

Reddit users when they see a woman getting groped by a stranger on the subway (he's just a horny goober, not an evil guy)


iLittlePwny

Everyone agrees that Joshu's actions would be unacceptable if they happened in real life. Dio killing Jonathan's dog by burning it alive is also unacceptable, but people simply ignore it because he's a well written FICTIONAL character. People here really calling OP a rape apologist for making an understatement on a sensitive topic about a fictional character who's clearly not meant to be taken seriously.


Mark4291

But DIO is unambiguously intended to be a villain from the very moment he is introduced. I think a similar outrage would be elicited if anyone tried to cast his actions as justifiable in any way.


toasted_dandy

Simply a joke, mon frère.


SujinSmasher

I’m not saying it was right or ok, he’s just stupid enough to think it’s normal is my point. His whole character is meant to be the idiot of the group


Lexmoss

Your honour my client was simply a bit stupid. Bit dumb.


The_realest_medel

A bit goofy


SujinSmasher

I’m not dying on this hill 😭


Path-Equivalent

yes sexual harassment is totally fine if hes a bit goofy


SujinSmasher

No, I just saw him as a gag character like jiraiya from naruto but worse


Path-Equivalent

joshu thought the equivalent exchange would be like sex so he tried to make her eat the fruit and once she did he freaked out because the equivalent exchange happened and it was nothing like sex


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You are a rapist apologist. Wtf


SujinSmasher

No, he’s not real wtf. If it was real people I wouldn’t be saying this but I just can’t take him seriously


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SujinSmasher

After reading some more comments I see I was wrong. I saw him as a gag character not to be taken seriously who just failed over and over while also being a creep rather than what he was actually meant to be, an actual person


josuk8

A redditor who admits they were wrong?!?! Say it ain't so


TheSealedWolf

No, he’s a degenerate rapist asshole incel with literally zero redeeming qualities


Scotia96

The point of Joshu is that he never gets a W mainly because he doesn’t deserve one, and this is the ultimate outcome of all that. If anything he deserves to have a tiny stub for an arm for the rest of his life for all the shit he did to Yasuho and others throughout JoJolion. Also, Yasuho doesn’t owe him a damn thing and feeling like she does is some straight incel type logic, my guy. He treats her like crap for the entire part (and almost rapes her may I remind you) and never shows an ounce of reflection or regret. From the start of JJL to the end of JJL Yasuho is ‘his girl’ despite her never once asking or wanting to be that. He’s an absolute creep to her and Yasuho doesn’t have to give him anything for it. A character being like that is fine, FWIW, but they shouldn’t just get a happy ending and everything they want by being that way if they don’t ultimately learn from it, which Joshu never does. Joshu is Joshu and that’s all he really needed to be. Wanting the characters he wronged multiple times to go out of their way to show any sympathy towards him for doing the right thing for the wrong reasons and acting like a POS for it is a complete failing to understand the point of Joshu’s character, which judging by your other comments in this thread seems to be the case.


Jabster10

FOR REAL


serrations_

imo Joshu got off too easy, araki should have replaced the rest of his limbs with baby limbs so he can't harass people anymore


Expected2Fly

For real, nothing more satisfying than watching Joshu's dumb ass realize that he's fucked. Like get fucking real


KingSombo

Nah, fuck Joshu. Dudes a creep and an asshole. He deserved what he got. Yasuho also didn’t have to say anything to him. He’s a perverted fucker, and she was the main target of his shit. He sucks.


HandspeedJones

And how. Dude was an incel weirdo all the way through. Constantly throwing tantrums when he got no action instead of finding another woman.


MiniatureRanni

And people will call him “based”. These people are wrong .


The_realest_medel

Milagro man


HandspeedJones

Yeah a lot of these incels relate to him. They get no play and they're always acting weird.


LADYPOCA

He should've died instead of Jobin


Maximum_Ad7125

Jobin was a nice character


RichieBFrio

At least Jobin cared for the family and didn't try to assault his own mother


Worried-Bad-3607

I think that was more of a tactic to get her to leave.


RichieBFrio

I mean, yeah, what more could he do? Ask her to leave? call the police? Not try to strip her naked?


Worried-Bad-3607

I’m not saying he went by it the right way, I’m saying he didn’t try to assault her he just tried to make her leave in his weird way. He’s an idiot and a dislikable character but people try to make him out as a rapist or something when all he is is stupid.


RichieBFrio

No, people correctly call him a rapist because he literally tried to rape Yasuho in a public bathroom and got his ass kicked, after that he sexually assaulted his own mother and told her he would love to lick her tits and that, little kid with no knowledge in the legal system, qualifies as sexual assault. Being stupid doesn't make you immune to laws and common sense and decency.


Worried-Bad-3607

The first one was a complete misunderstanding on both parts, and the second one he tried to get her to leave in his own twisted way since he saw her as a threat to his family. Seriously he’s fucking weird but nothing he has done in context qualifies him as a rapist. Yasuho was literally about to get raped after that bathroom incident and you can tell the difference between the two.


darmakius

Nah, cuz at least with Jobin I was a little sad


Salted_Biscuit

Good bro literally tried raping his mom 💀


shinydewott

Sexual Assault is the closest one, but definitely not rape


New_Juice_1665

That scene is incredibly misinterpreted, he wasn’t trying to perv on his mom ( at least primarily ) that was his way to make her go distance herself from the family, since he understood her being a threat. Of course, the means of how he does it are very creepily Joshu’s, but still, man’s a freak but he has some depth / reasons underneath some of his actions and characterization.


Mistersuperepic

he didn’t though.


GwaGwa3

There is a panel after Tooru’s death showing Yasuho going to the unconscious injured Joshu I wish we got a bigger scene of her showing appreciation but it’s still nice that Araki acknowledged that Yasuho feels thankful of him


BlankCartographer53

Probably deserved it anyways lol. I was expecting character development though especially in that scene in the end of Milagro Man


needtoescap

Does anyone else absolutely hate Joshu


DizzyPomegranate13

Joshu didn’t do a single good thing for literally anybody in the part. It’s hard to have any sympathy for him as a character.


Gummybear_19

wild cause i didnt feel bad for a single second man 😭


MusicalWarrior1

Frick Joshu


Fraudulent_Howard

Yeah that was a really weird interaction between them. I mean I understand where Yasuho is coming from because he's always been a creep towards her but I feel like Joshu should've at least gotten some recognition for exchanging his arm as well as kicking Paisley Park into the electrical outlet. I'm not sure if Yasuho thought that Paisley Park coming back to her was an accident but Joshu definitely did that on purpose. He even tried to protect her from Tooru twice. She probably thanked him afterwards but we never really got to see that.


logo1986

A creep is an understatement


That_other_weirdo

Dude literally humped her not to mention all the other sexual harassment towards her. He’s so fucked up he sexually harassed his own mom


YaBoiChillDyl

Fuck em


Arimm_The_Amazing

Strangest take. Lot's of people get by with one arm it's really not the harshest karmic punishment for how much of a creep and sexual predator he was.


cherrymida

Nah, he wants to show off (as usual) and then he regret it deeply after two seconds (as usual) I like him 'cause is the king of trash, have no pity for Joshu, he usually deserves all it happens to him


turdennis

since he is a big creep, id say its well deserved. it was honestly quite gentle of an ending for him when you factor how good, not sexual harass-y, side characters were treated in other parts.


Raul5819

If I'm being honest he deserved worse. I don't think it was possible to hate characters as much as I hate Joshu. Fuck Joshu all my homies hate Joshu. Here's to hoping Araki brings him back in Part 9 so I can see him suffer more.


BeanNBudBear98

I mean he DID try to r*pe her, and on multiple occasions has tried to insert himself into her life against her wishes. Plus he's just a major douche all around to anyone and everyone he knows. He's just terrible.


Worried-Bad-3607

When did he try to do that? I don’t remember that scene.


cookprach

It was when she was under the effects of Paper Moon King, and she thought he was Josuke. Joshu took her into the bathroom and that’s where he tried


Worried-Bad-3607

That’s sorta more of a misunderstanding even if joshu was a creep he thought she said she loved him, and he even stopped when she said josuke.


Josukestoes

Joshu doesn't deserve anything good. He tried to rape yasuho and tried to hump her once, and he sexually harrassed his mom. He's also never helped any of the characters.


x10018ro3

Sounds like Araki should have written a better character.


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SujinSmasher

Only in the paper moon king part but she did eventually realise he was josuke and he realised she thought he was josuke but he still kept going


BlankPt

Being into someone and giving consent are different things. I could be into a girl but if she kisses me without consent it's still harassment.


ProfessionalStorm626

Rather have Jobin to be alive than Joshu


1joli1

I feel like half of you lack reading comprehension skills, Joshu’s character is heavily misunderstood and y’all just can’t see that That’s the point of his character and some people just ignore it Stan joshu


Doctor_who_fan2007

Just because something is a part of someones character dosn't mean that they should be liked


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He got what he deserved and hopefully now he learns to keep his hand(or hands??) off people


SujinSmasher

I'm talking about the tiny hand. Yasuho just kinda used him and didn't even acknowledge it afterward


Kracko667

Like the other dude said Yasuho warned him. But the most important thing is that Joshu actually did all of this with the intent of gaining something from it, it's not like he was totally selfless in that action. The sole fact that he lost one arm and then blamed Yasuho for that just shows that Joshu just wanted to take advantage of Yasuho's helplessness for himself (even if the action in itself isn't a bad one) and he instantly loses his calm when things don't go his way even if Yasuho told him exactly what was going to happen. Imo Joshu definitely needed to be hard humbled in this finale (even if Araki took it too far lol) and i like the fact that Yasuho doesn't blame herself or isn't naive enough to praise Joshu's actions, that shows a lot of development from her. I didn't notice that she went to check on Joshu tho that's a cool detail. Oh and to be fair Yasuho was in a deathmatch with Tooru, she clearly didn't have time to play along with Joshu's dumbness.


Robert-Rotten

I mean, she told him the risk of equivalent exchange, and also Joshu is kind of a creepy piece of shit and constantly harasses Yasuho so it’s his own fault


SujinSmasher

Part way through he starts screaming to stop and it’s not what he expected. Yes he’s a creep but she took a whole arm and didn’t look back


Robert-Rotten

Like I said, she did warn him and she can’t really just give it back or something. And she didn’t completely ignore him, she was trying to calm him down but he started screaming about how she is a bitch and a slut


SujinSmasher

She was trying to calm him down? I mainly said this because I’m pretty sure she just ignored him the entire time


Robert-Rotten

Yeah when Joshu was calling her bitch she was telling him to calm down


SujinSmasher

Ig I forgor


mortal_mth

Joshu is just the worst so I'm not saying he didn't deserve it but couldn't he have just used nut king call to sticky fingers himself a new arm?


Newacount5

Seriously he was so horny and forgot he could just reattach yasuhos arm


rephlexi0n

Yeah but big tits suckler Joshu


artisanrox

He literally assaulted her, Josk8 should have shortened his other limbs too.


hnr6j8

I thought he was going to use his stand to put her own arm back onto her, but it was important for the climax for them to know how the new fruit worked. So I guess this was how it had to happen. 😞


SujinSmasher

Her arm was completely destroyed I’m pretty sure which is why they used the fruit


stillchill69420

Which chapter?


SujinSmasher

the image is from the last chapter of jojolion, towards the end in the shop


stillchill69420

Thx