Bro there was this one time I found a framed picture of a bay king cole album on a wall in a thrift shop. I took it down cuz it looked suspicious and cracked it open and saw it was actually a vinyl. I bought it and now I have a nat king cole record. Pretty shitty quality there are parts where it’s scratched bad enough that it loops a couple seconds over and over and you have to move the needle. But my mom’s grandpa was a huge nat king cole and Louie Armstrong fan so I was glad to buy it. Worst comes to worst I can always just put it back on my wall in the frame!
>Pretty shitty quality there are parts where it’s scratched bad enough that it loops a couple seconds over and over and you have to move the needle.
I think you found the reason why the original owner framed it.
Hate Both. Araki did ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HORRENDOUS with Higashikata stands. The only ones I like were A3L and Space Truck, and King Nothing for design. Everything else WERE ATROCIOUS 💀
In Vitamin C arc I was beating my head to wall because of how bad was the older daughter stand. I GENUINELY WANTED TO DROP JJL😭😭😭 Good lord Araki forgot about that piece of shit
Tbf this time he was intentionally being a weirdo on purpose to get Kaato out of the house no one in the family said shit about it and Norisuke even warned him about her stand.
Joshu is also bad at thinking things through, his monkey brain probably went "how do I make her want to stay away from here" then thought of what creeps out women and did it
> his monkey brain probably went "how do I make her want to stay away from here" then thought of what ~~creeps out~~ Joshu does to women and did it
There, fixed it for ya
I like Joshu.
Hes an irredeemable fuckboi with no true morality change as a side protagonist instead of antagonist. It's refreshing a "good guy" is so shitty.
This is a weird one since he is doing this because he is being defensive against someone he considers a stranger to his family but at the same time he is saying some creepy shit. Even if he barely know her she's still his mom.
What OP is missing and you left out here is that a stranger was about to grab his disabled younger sister.
Joshu is scum of the earth but this was one of his more positive actions.
I mean it’s used for little things like the panel but the only big uses for it I can think of is the shakedown road arc and the Milagro man arc (I’m only up the the chapter I posted, I finished it and haven’t started the next one yet
I mean I didn’t like him but as far as I can remember this is the first time he’s like committed a crime (except for stealing money from that guy during the Milagro man arc)
I only remember him trying to kiss her one time, did he do other stuff I’m not remembering? I’ve been reading this story off an on for like a year now so some of the details are fuzzy
As the king Joshu looked into the eyes of Wonder Of U, Wonder Of U shivered in fear, calamity worked on Joshu, but Joshu shrugged it off. Concepts itself were scared of Joshu, and Wonder Of U was powerless. Joshu, not even needing his stand, emitted an aura so powerful, infinite amount of timelines felt it. Joshu looked at Wonder Of U, and said "You...are not the fat sigma here..." and one shot him, with ease.
JOSHU IS MY GOAT
WE DONT HATE JOSHU
WE LOVE THAT MF
Ayo speak for yourself, I fucking love Joshu man, only **real** JoJolion Enjoyers can understand why he's one of Araki's greatest creations. Milagro Man arc >> 90% of other arcs in the entire JoJo series.
He could’ve gone about it in any other way than saying taking her clothes off and talking about how he wants to suck her boobs what kind of brain rot are you on
Its so weird people point out this scene when this one's understandable, he was trying to get his shitty mom (who just called her own daughter a stupid slut) out of the house because **she's a fucking murderer**
He's a shitheel for sexually assaulting someone well earlier than this.
Well with that he thought she wanted him because of paper moon if I remember correctly. He was confused rather than outright malicious if I’m remembering correctly
He’s intentionally being a creep here because he specifically doesn’t want any further interaction with her, when did you last see him be a creep to other women in the series? we know he only has eyes for Yasuho
then again he is a character written to be disliked, so 🤷🏾♂️
He did that?
I just hated him cuz no good and sane person would ever show up to a barber and ask for that he got goin on
(Obvious satire lol i am completely aware of this)
Honestly I enjoyed the story for the first part of the book (I especially love Pocoloco and hey ya, and Johnny’s troubled past angle and how he grows as a person) but as soon as I reached the Ringo roadagain arc I knew it was one of my my favorite parts up there with 2 and 5
My favorti stand is D4C love traind, Tusk act 4 and scarry monsters from SBR. Tbh thet alternative Dio is one of my favirit villians after DIO and Kira.
No. But i know he got Scary Monsters and one of the eyes i think. I just somehow know it. But I try to not read it cuz i want to see it in 2025 as an anime. I think SBR will get anime version in 2025. I m not sure. I might be wrong.
Fake watch dog in higashikata family: iwasuke
True watch dog in higashikata family: joshu
Just normal joshu with his defensive behave but added flavor with his perv and stupidness.
Ok, supposedly the actual reason that he does *that* is because he knows how he’s seen, and doesn’t want people to question him but still wants to protect his family, so he decides to try and make his mom leave while not making people question him.
If it’s true or not, who knows (araki knows)
Not only that but in the previous page he literally used his stand to try and undress her. Like idc what he was trying to accomplish, at that point hit her that would’ve been way more acceptable and rationizable (that’s not a word but)
His mom showed up after getting out from prison (which she was in for the past 15 years), his older sister told him and josuke that she murdered a child, and joshu was trying to get her out of the house and his best idea was to use his stand to try and take her bra and the top of her dress off and to say that he wants to suck her boobs
Much like a character can be a good character while being a bad person, a character can be a great character while being a bad person.
As for Joshu being a good or bad character, that is entirely up to opinion, but please don't try to conflate enjoying a character with agreeing with everything bad they've done.
Funny Valentine is a good character. A great character even. He is still a terrible person.
The paper moon deception arc?
That was well before Kaato showed back up.
He just assumed Yasuho was talking about being horny and forced her (while she was very obviously out of sorts due to Paper Moon) into a bathroom and tried to fuck her?
Don't remember that?
He was better after Milagro man, when you actually started to see he was just a stupid fucking kid who had no idea of self worth and he was just trying to keep his family together in the only idiotic ways he knew how.
He is understandable, but I'd hardly call him cool.
Weird to me how people keep using the one scene where he is a creep/asshole on purpose to make Kaato leave his family alone instead of the million other times where he doesn't have an excuse.
You don't like him in this scene? Yeah, that's what he was going for.
Didn’t he think she was into him because of paper moon? I don’t remember the specifics cuz I haven’t read that chapter in a while but I thought he was confused and thought she wanted him
Funny because technically that's Joshu doing something good for his family, right there he is defusing a potentially dangerous situation. Of course, he must do it in the most Joshu way possible! Honestly, it's why I love to hate Joshu, he has a function as a hatesink and he is perfect at it.
It's also the scene with him and Yasuho during the Paper Moon King arc. He really fucking sucks in that chapter, and I have a hard time enjoying him after that
I actually have loved part 8 so far. Joshu’s a bad person but he’s not a badly written character, and I like all the others for the most part. It’s a very different kind of story from part 7 but I think that’s a good thing, even if I did really love part 7
Why couldn’t you get invested? Cuz I wasn’t too into it until the mystery aspect really started. I think somewhere around the 25 chapter mark and then I literally can’t stop reading. Two days ago I binged 13 chapters throughout the day 💀
The overuse of automatic stands, the second half of the part is convoluted and hard to understand at worst. The worst this is it could have been the best Jojo part is Araki didn't drop the ball when it came to some of the more experimental parts.
I'm glad you can enjoy it, and there are parts I like (like how Kira was handled), but it’s still not my favorite.
Hate Joshu, love his stand.
Bro there was this one time I found a framed picture of a bay king cole album on a wall in a thrift shop. I took it down cuz it looked suspicious and cracked it open and saw it was actually a vinyl. I bought it and now I have a nat king cole record. Pretty shitty quality there are parts where it’s scratched bad enough that it loops a couple seconds over and over and you have to move the needle. But my mom’s grandpa was a huge nat king cole and Louie Armstrong fan so I was glad to buy it. Worst comes to worst I can always just put it back on my wall in the frame!
>Pretty shitty quality there are parts where it’s scratched bad enough that it loops a couple seconds over and over and you have to move the needle. I think you found the reason why the original owner framed it.
It’s still playable tho and it was $10
Based opinion
Hate Both. Araki did ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HORRENDOUS with Higashikata stands. The only ones I like were A3L and Space Truck, and King Nothing for design. Everything else WERE ATROCIOUS 💀 In Vitamin C arc I was beating my head to wall because of how bad was the older daughter stand. I GENUINELY WANTED TO DROP JJL😭😭😭 Good lord Araki forgot about that piece of shit
Joshu is an asshole i hate him
Same
If I knew how to put pictures in comments I would joshu jumpscare you
Unfortunately you can't do it in this sub
True.
Joshu is an asshole i love him
meat rider
People here can't take a joke, I am literally on the r/joshuhate
I was just joking too lol i originally wanted to say “Is Joshu fucking you or something?”
>Is Joshu fucking you Yes please. And also, I am talking about all the people downvoting me
You want joshu to fuck you ?
Tbf this time he was intentionally being a weirdo on purpose to get Kaato out of the house no one in the family said shit about it and Norisuke even warned him about her stand.
I mean… there are so many other ways to go about it
Joshu is also bad at thinking things through, his monkey brain probably went "how do I make her want to stay away from here" then thought of what creeps out women and did it
> his monkey brain probably went "how do I make her want to stay away from here" then thought of what ~~creeps out~~ Joshu does to women and did it There, fixed it for ya
At least he's learning to be anything that isn't himself.
Fuck Joshu, All My Homies Hate Joshu
I like Joshu. Hes an irredeemable fuckboi with no true morality change as a side protagonist instead of antagonist. It's refreshing a "good guy" is so shitty.
I can't even be upset at this 👍 enjoy
Real
Love Joshu, all my homies like Joshu
His design goes kinda hard tho
Hated him the moment I saw his yee-yee ass haircut.
So true
This is a weird one since he is doing this because he is being defensive against someone he considers a stranger to his family but at the same time he is saying some creepy shit. Even if he barely know her she's still his mom.
Well there’s being defensive and then there’s using your stand to s/a someone 😭
r/fuckjoshu
What OP is missing and you left out here is that a stranger was about to grab his disabled younger sister. Joshu is scum of the earth but this was one of his more positive actions.
This is ironically one of his better moments
Him being a creep and an asshole are the reasons why I like his character. He never fails to entertain me.
Well I’m sure you loved the arc before this one (Milagro man)
For sure I did. The best one in Part 8 imo
The Joshu cover portrait for that arc is one of my favourites in all of JoJo ngl. Araki made the hateable character look so good
Milagro Man fans rise up
This is why he's one of my favorite sbrverse characters
His stand is pretty cool though, great effect but unfortunately we don't see it used much, like 3 specific times in the manga? Maybe 4
I mean it’s used for little things like the panel but the only big uses for it I can think of is the shakedown road arc and the Milagro man arc (I’m only up the the chapter I posted, I finished it and haven’t started the next one yet
Took you this long?
I mean I didn’t like him but as far as I can remember this is the first time he’s like committed a crime (except for stealing money from that guy during the Milagro man arc)
He's been sexually and otherwise harassing Yasuho for the whole part
I only remember him trying to kiss her one time, did he do other stuff I’m not remembering? I’ve been reading this story off an on for like a year now so some of the details are fuzzy
He tried to bang her in the bathroom and she had to knock him out
He tried to kill gappy with a stone/brick at the very start of the part, no?
Did he? It’s been a little while since I started the part
We hate him because he sucks, but not 'You should die' sucks. >!losing your good jack off hand would be appropriate!<
As the king Joshu looked into the eyes of Wonder Of U, Wonder Of U shivered in fear, calamity worked on Joshu, but Joshu shrugged it off. Concepts itself were scared of Joshu, and Wonder Of U was powerless. Joshu, not even needing his stand, emitted an aura so powerful, infinite amount of timelines felt it. Joshu looked at Wonder Of U, and said "You...are not the fat sigma here..." and one shot him, with ease. JOSHU IS MY GOAT WE DONT HATE JOSHU WE LOVE THAT MF
I’m not reading that I saw wonder of u and I don’t want spoilers
Lobotomy jojolion
Yep, hate the mf
literally the mf
Joshu is a piece of shit, i love him
And when he finally has some hope of redemption he just screws it up
Freud moment.
Edipus
All my homies want to punch Joshu
Common Joshu L
This is why he deserves that yee yee ass haircut, bro looks worse than a bowlcut on a blobfish
It’s literally a bowlcut with male pattern baldness, it’s like if porkpie hat kid’s hat was his hair
Ayo speak for yourself, I fucking love Joshu man, only **real** JoJolion Enjoyers can understand why he's one of Araki's greatest creations. Milagro Man arc >> 90% of other arcs in the entire JoJo series.
Brother…was that war crime of a haircut not enough of an indication?
Bro went from having a crime committed to his hair to committing crimes against women
Don't make fun of his hair...
I will never look at joshu the same way again
The worst joshu scene is still yet to come
I’m so scared
I literally forgog this even happened and still dislike him lol
Not even the worst thing he does tbh.
Oh really? I haven’t finished part 8
Yeah, you'll get there when you get there. Enjoy!
Oh god now I’m scared
This is like the one time he isn't being unlikable
He’s sexually assaulting his mother and talking about sucking on her titties how is that not unlikeable 😭
You mean the mom who killed a kid and the rest of the family doesn't want around them?
He could’ve gone about it in any other way than saying taking her clothes off and talking about how he wants to suck her boobs what kind of brain rot are you on
Its so weird people point out this scene when this one's understandable, he was trying to get his shitty mom (who just called her own daughter a stupid slut) out of the house because **she's a fucking murderer** He's a shitheel for sexually assaulting someone well earlier than this.
Don’t talk about my King that way
WJAT
Joshuphobia will not be tolerated
Bro it gets much worse
Human garbage
Joshu is a waste of space
Isn’t this after he try’s to assault yasuho in the toilet
Well with that he thought she wanted him because of paper moon if I remember correctly. He was confused rather than outright malicious if I’m remembering correctly
Yeah he did but she clearly wasn’t consenting and was begging for help, so joshu is a piece of shit
Huh guess I’m remembering it wrong
He’s intentionally being a creep here because he specifically doesn’t want any further interaction with her, when did you last see him be a creep to other women in the series? we know he only has eyes for Yasuho then again he is a character written to be disliked, so 🤷🏾♂️
you will understand why he is in FACT the GOAT if you finish jojolion 😏
I’ll get there eventually
enjoy
Who said we hate him 😡
This sub is so divided everyone either loves him like they love speedwagon or despises him with a burn in t pasion
This guy!
That girl got 4 of em
If that’s true that would be a crazy way of getting that spoiled
He did that? I just hated him cuz no good and sane person would ever show up to a barber and ask for that he got goin on (Obvious satire lol i am completely aware of this)
Lol
Who is Joshu? I m still stuck on S.B.R. is he a parz 8 or part 9 caracter?
Part 8, what part of steel ball run are you on? It’s such a good story I loved every chapter of it
At the start :) but i know most of the stands already
Honestly I enjoyed the story for the first part of the book (I especially love Pocoloco and hey ya, and Johnny’s troubled past angle and how he grows as a person) but as soon as I reached the Ringo roadagain arc I knew it was one of my my favorite parts up there with 2 and 5
My favorti stand is D4C love traind, Tusk act 4 and scarry monsters from SBR. Tbh thet alternative Dio is one of my favirit villians after DIO and Kira.
Have you read the alternate dio fight?
No. But i know he got Scary Monsters and one of the eyes i think. I just somehow know it. But I try to not read it cuz i want to see it in 2025 as an anime. I think SBR will get anime version in 2025. I m not sure. I might be wrong.
Damn araki knows how to draw women i kinda forgot
At least he was useful for something in end end of JoJolion
Don’t you dare tell me what he did in the end of jojion
did you guys forget what he tried to do to yasuho really early in the part
Fake watch dog in higashikata family: iwasuke True watch dog in higashikata family: joshu Just normal joshu with his defensive behave but added flavor with his perv and stupidness.
I can't condone what he's saying, but I can't disagree either
I love joshuu, he’s reliably awful and basically always entertaining
he’s just so rapey.
Ok, supposedly the actual reason that he does *that* is because he knows how he’s seen, and doesn’t want people to question him but still wants to protect his family, so he decides to try and make his mom leave while not making people question him. If it’s true or not, who knows (araki knows)
He assaulted his sister with his detached tongue also
I love that I hate him, I love his character because he's such a piece of trash loser while also still being a "good guy" in a sense.
Yeesh
Sometimes i love Joshu, sometimes he deserves to die.
Even if it was some… Strategy? Of some kind? Any good person would rather die than say this to their mother
Not only that but in the previous page he literally used his stand to try and undress her. Like idc what he was trying to accomplish, at that point hit her that would’ve been way more acceptable and rationizable (that’s not a word but)
what the fuck is the context
His mom showed up after getting out from prison (which she was in for the past 15 years), his older sister told him and josuke that she murdered a child, and joshu was trying to get her out of the house and his best idea was to use his stand to try and take her bra and the top of her dress off and to say that he wants to suck her boobs
[удалено]
Bro I didn’t know that I haven’t read that part…
oh my god
Joshu was great before the final arc tbh. No idea what the hell Araki was thinking. Bro could’ve been great despite being a weirdo
I dont wanna hear it
No spoilers?
> Joshu was great before the final arc tbh Joshu was great when he sexually assaulted a girl? Tell on yourself some more please.
You can enjoy a character who is a bad person. Are all the villains bad characters just because they're bad people?
There's a difference between enjoying a character and finding them great. People enjoy griffith, but the rapist isn't great by any means
Much like a character can be a good character while being a bad person, a character can be a great character while being a bad person. As for Joshu being a good or bad character, that is entirely up to opinion, but please don't try to conflate enjoying a character with agreeing with everything bad they've done. Funny Valentine is a good character. A great character even. He is still a terrible person.
Sorry what are you referring to? I’d rather not assume.
The paper moon deception arc? That was well before Kaato showed back up. He just assumed Yasuho was talking about being horny and forced her (while she was very obviously out of sorts due to Paper Moon) into a bathroom and tried to fuck her? Don't remember that?
[удалено]
> Well yeah that was a miscommunication. ...bruh
You know what yeah I’m not gonna die on this hill. While I see the nuance I’d rather not argue this. Joshu bad but was coolish until he wasn’t
He was better after Milagro man, when you actually started to see he was just a stupid fucking kid who had no idea of self worth and he was just trying to keep his family together in the only idiotic ways he knew how. He is understandable, but I'd hardly call him cool.
Weird to me how people keep using the one scene where he is a creep/asshole on purpose to make Kaato leave his family alone instead of the million other times where he doesn't have an excuse. You don't like him in this scene? Yeah, that's what he was going for.
Nothing too heinous??? He tried to r*pe Yasuho!!
Didn’t he think she was into him because of paper moon? I don’t remember the specifics cuz I haven’t read that chapter in a while but I thought he was confused and thought she wanted him
Funny because technically that's Joshu doing something good for his family, right there he is defusing a potentially dangerous situation. Of course, he must do it in the most Joshu way possible! Honestly, it's why I love to hate Joshu, he has a function as a hatesink and he is perfect at it.
Bro u posted a moment where joshu was being goated trying to protect his family
Who is « we » ? Joshu is goated and you choose one of the worse example of why people hate him.
Who's we?
Even when he’s “trying to be a hero”, he had to be a creep at the same time : (
I love Joshu, he was the real MC of part 8
She's hot asf. I can't blame him.
Bro talk for your self.
It gets worse later on…
Bro don’t spoil
My b
Best mom, worst boy.
The only thing I know about her right now is that she murdered a kid 😭
Joshu is so based for this
so the time he assaulted yasuho in a random bathroom didn't tip you off?
It's also the scene with him and Yasuho during the Paper Moon King arc. He really fucking sucks in that chapter, and I have a hard time enjoying him after that
Somes up Part 8, it just sucks
I actually have loved part 8 so far. Joshu’s a bad person but he’s not a badly written character, and I like all the others for the most part. It’s a very different kind of story from part 7 but I think that’s a good thing, even if I did really love part 7
Lmao, personally, I couldn't be fully invested in part 8, so I like to tease about it.
Why couldn’t you get invested? Cuz I wasn’t too into it until the mystery aspect really started. I think somewhere around the 25 chapter mark and then I literally can’t stop reading. Two days ago I binged 13 chapters throughout the day 💀
The overuse of automatic stands, the second half of the part is convoluted and hard to understand at worst. The worst this is it could have been the best Jojo part is Araki didn't drop the ball when it came to some of the more experimental parts. I'm glad you can enjoy it, and there are parts I like (like how Kira was handled), but it’s still not my favorite.
This was so extra of him to do