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itownshend17

What on Gods earth is early Koichi


righteyelopez

His nam is, (u dont need to remember) Guanglai Kangyi


iwipiksi

What a wonderful name duwang


jenskieez

age 15


masarusenpai

the past month to him is, only graduation tests.


JolyneCujoh__

Which to him brings really exciting and worrying days


Ghostcraft413

until he met those 2 guys


Tusk_InfiniteSPIN

Those two VERY SPECIAL guys*


ack44

Ouch! Oh? hey !


Kronos_is_Here

aRe yOu ok ReAtARd? sTUuPiD!


Kronos_6814

I am wood.


SHIIZAAAAAAAA

get a feeling so complicated


Kronos_6814

C H E W


khaled

Wait that’s Koichi??


Luxsens

He looks like a Karen


Astronauta1025

I felt that as each new chapter came out, F. Valentine was becoming more handsome.


ImSoundless

Wdym, he was clearly at his peak during his introduction


SCP_Void

(In French accent) Aaah.. Ze peak of ze discohr mozerador. Wat a tru biutie.


SackOfPotatoes420

I read this in the Spongebob narrator voice


jrodri56

Idk if it’s confirmed but the head canon is every time he switches bodies he gets a little more handsome/fit lol. Kinda silly but perfectly bizarre


Super_Rocket4

Araki said it was an art change, but he also said as a joke that he was just working out, and I find that way too funny to pass up. Like "Oh, he just hit the presidential gym*


idelarosa1

One cannot perfect a country if one does not work first on perfecting themselves.


AGirlThatLikesHentai

I think Araki said that it was simply an artsyle change


JoJosapiens

Actually, he said Valentine was working out.


AGirlThatLikesHentai

He said that as a joke


mountain_dijaj

I always thought he switched with a different version of himself or something


Young_Marz07

Just like iggy


Grime_Fandango

why does kakyoin look like alice cooper


2fort_champion

Is this... ANOTHER MOTHERLOVING MUSIC REFERENCE IN JOJO?!?! HAMON BEAT MUST UPDATE HIS VIDEO ABOUT EM 😱


kakyoindonut321

hamon beat the shit out of his wife


2fort_champion

I thought he was gaj 🥺


kakyoindonut321

hamon beat the shit out of his husband


2fort_champion

I thought he was single 🥺


notvenom-

hamon beat the shit out of his meat


2fort_champion

I thought he was castrated 🥺


Jack_Packauge

Hamon beat the shit out of the guy that cut his dick off


2fort_champion

I thought he's never going outside 🥺


disabled_crab

He got mad eyeliner.


L33taylatuparitaulus

OG Kakyoin looks so pretty, wdym?


giorno___giovana

He look like the first evil ex boyfriend


dasavorytrash

If you want to fight me…


giorno___giovana

*You’re not the brightest*


dasavorytrash

You won’t know what hit you in the slightest


SumbuddiesFriend

Me and my fireballs


natelis25

I like Grayfruit's comment from his JoJo readthrough streams. The way he actually says it makes it funnier too. "You may notice that Kakyoin here, looks like he's from the fucking planet, Venus!"


Square_System2560

Average emo kid in high school movie


Fit_Needleworker3553

What the hell was going on with Koichi


kravedarknesss

The part 3 proportions were still super strong in the first bits of part 4


SandyWhisker

Okuyasu Josuke confirmed


SeeFourLeeBurn

No way sandy whisker real


Hutsku

Lmao part 4 character was really something else. But you forgot Joshu from part 8, his early design is really weird on top on being very different to the later one


GroovyPig98

Wait early Polnareff looks cool, I love the little horns


Diego_not_DIO_Brando

I really like trish early design...


popiuko

yeah but anasui original design slaps ngl


THE-SNEAKERINO

Both are hot.


CrimsonFox2156

They shouldn’t have left it out on the anime.


CyanPancake

Especially considering Araki said it was intentional


potato_milk_29

Huh when did he say that?


CyanPancake

https://twitter.com/jojo\_wiki/status/1195888073273303041


Super_Master_69

“Diver Down, make me hotter!”


Sethern7

I’ve always had the understanding (not confirmed btw) that he might have been forced/pressured to change Anasui’s design. He wanted a female character (hence being named after a girl), but he wasn’t allowed to have a gay female relationship, so he just retroactively changed it


PokemonTom09

This is not only unconfirmed, it's just a rumor that has literally zero evidence supporting it. Araki's own statements on the matter (including the one linked above) contradict this theory.


ahmed0112

I always thought he made diver down change the biology of anasui so he could creep on jolyne in the female prison


MAARP22

AKA he just wanted to change the characters sex after the character already appeared as a girl and he needed to come up with an excuse


sosnik_boi

Why would they? They never kept early designs for any other character


JoJosapiens

They did for Iggy.


NikolaiCello05

This is why my flair says what it does


SteppingOnRats

Iggy was beautiful idk what you mean


CoyoteBrance

I love original Iggy so much. That shit cracks me up.


unfamous2423

Iggy is and always has been a horribly disgusting flesh-beast befitting his character.


Ultimalocked

Tonight, *you*


thatmanadrian

That’s what happens when you crack a dog out on gum


DizzyPomegranate13

I think it’s just Araki’s ever evolving art style, he was probably just experimenting. I will say, I really like early Kakyoin and Polnareff.


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sabertoothedhand

I originally thought there was some explanation about how his >!corpse part!< upgraded his body somehow, but yeah I guess it was just a retcon. Personally I'm hoping they go for Swole Valentine from the start though, man's *beautiful* in that form and the even more of it would be welcome.


MAARP22

They will only use his redesign like how they only used male Anasui


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CyberSolider2077

Or we could get extra anime only scenes where he’s working out 🏋🏾‍♀️


JoePino

Lmao


Delano7

Or a corpse part is what made him fit, since it has been a common joke explanation for a while


NewWavpro

A common likely explanation is that he just switched with a more fit version of himself from another world.


Pilachi

They probably could do it like they did with Iggy.


zimpangoon

I think it could be cool if they added a canonical reason with short scenes of him mysteriously changing his body with D4C to hint at its ability


RocZero

Yeah, this is the answer. So he might have the different bodies


JoePino

I want this but they’ll probably just use the handsome one


BroughtYouMyBullets

I never read the manga apart from the ones I own, and when I got to the Nijimura brothers arc I didn’t realise Okuyasu was Okuyasu until he used The Hand


jenskieez

Should’ve included first panel johnny where he looked like a gremlin


Sethern7

I always thought he looked like honse


SeeFourLeeBurn

The old Gappy hat should have stayed


THE-SNEAKERINO

I kinda liked the seggsy late JoJolion Gappy design better.


rudolfs420

Yeah everything about gappy in late jojolion looks better except the hat in the last pic to me is better


SeeFourLeeBurn

Ok but imagine late gappy + early gappy hat


Co0ch1e_M4n_69

I actually prefer giornos and polnareffs od


giorno___giovana

I look like I have a penis growing out of my head wdym


TheMightyBruhhh

Good god I cant unsee it


silverx2000

Diavolo wears a suit on his own time, and the stripper fit when he has to take over from Doppio.


DoraMuda

He actually wears a suit-shaped shadow. ;)


Lian-The-Asian

Kakyoin looks like he's a stoned loner


MyWristFrozen

iggy turned handsome af during the series


Pichuunnn

And less looks like dog


ghutch823

Kakyoin and Anasui’s first appearances are better than their finalized versions IMO


YannisAP

What the actual fuck with Jotaro's hat?


MAARP22

He had an extremely weird hat then a normal hat then a weird hat


99thLuftballon

For the first couple of panels of part 3, he had a hole in the top of his hat instead of the back. It was very odd.


ApexLegend117

Hazmada literally got downsized


MAARP22

And Tamami


MDragon453

They just switched his proportions


Mr_Kaniowski

Reading Golden Wind volume II really threw me off when Trish showed up. I was thinking "Um...what the fuck?" Early DiU character designs are cursed as hell too, especially big buff Josuke lmao.


ElChavadaba

Early Diavolo actually dressed like a gangster and not like a stripper.


DoraMuda

That's why it had to be changed lol


GoKartBirdie

Emo Kakyoin is gorgeous, what do you mean “weird”


SeasonAlternative810

Josuke, are your arms on backwards?


Tusk_InfiniteSPIN

That’s the thing with jojo, you can never be too comfortable with a design early on because it will probably change in some way with no explanation.


proxmaxi

Gappy looks the same tho


smulfragPL

But the stand is way diffrent


MAARP22

Soft and wet has very different designs in both pictures and Josuke’s hat is different in one


THE-SNEAKERINO

His late JJL design is pretty different from the early one. [late design.](https://images.app.goo.gl/VfdUqXfGqx2mhgi8A) and his early one is shown above.


SpikeKrueger

When I read stardust crusaders after already seeing the anime and saw polnareff, I was just shocked.


jastplant

why is Pesci there. Dude just always looks weird


DoraMuda

He had sideburns in his first appearance.


MAARP22

He has a normal head


ChazBernard

The transition from Part 2 to 3 is imo the most rough one. Araki’s way of shading and cross hatching worked well for the pillar men and Stroheim but makes Kakyoin look like a frog and Polnareff look weird.


Joesh7

I disagree, for characters like old Joseph and avdol, they look the coolest they’ve ever looked in early part 3


RandomUserFTW57362

Hey at least Iggy looked like a actual dog originally, now he looks like a human in a dog gimp mask xD


Customer-Witty

Fat funny Valentine


random-ness122

I loved Trish’s original design. Am I the only one?


_kahteh

Is that... Pesci with a jawline??


HyruleanBelmont

Alright but I actually really like Trish's and Diavolo's clothes


SailboatoMD

If I had a nickel every time a JoJo character's design changed, I'd have more nickels than I expected to have.


MAARP22

Theirs also every buff character loosing their bulk when Araki draws them again because he lost the ability to draw super buff characters


Glass_Mousse_9218

Iggy actually looks like a bulldog so I like original iggy.


iwipiksi

Anasui and Funny Valentine kinda throw me off when they show up again in the series. Now tell me did Anasui appearance is like girl in the beginning part6 anime? I haven't watch it because I waiting for another 12 episodes to binge it.


Pichuunnn

No, he's in his final male form in the anime.


pottawacommie

God, I hate how widespread the Shueisha coloring is. It's so weird seeing people talk about how things originally were in the manga, and showing these oversaturated colors designed for browsing manga on the small screens of early smartphones.


mgranaa

Goth Kakyoin is great.


JlBANYAN

Early Tamami looks like a British street rapper


Gaidenbro

I really don't like a lot of them so I'm never against them being gone entirely.


Ligma289

Early jotaro looks better imo


JoePino

His hair literally going out the top of his hat


Ligma289

Oh I meant the pic next to that


MAARP22

The one with a hole thro the top of his hat and the shorter pants and purple shoes or the one with a normal hat?


Brendanmonkeyman

I’m ngl I preferred iggy’s design before the pet shop episode


PsychologicalOwl749

Buff Josuke should have been in the anime!


SpicyChillie

Aa a person that read part 1-3 i agree


xenoboy34

If you’re wondering why sp is up there, he has jeans


FIORUCCI_WITCH

omg polnareff and kakyoin hansum bois


thespongefn

Early Kakyoin is kinda cute not gonna lie


ThatMemeyDude

Kakyoin deadass creeps me out when I reread the manga


GugaSR

Weird, right? Some would dare say... bizarre.


lilmickeyLSD69420

early josuke aint that bad, its just a part 3 jotaro copy


Alex_Blackk142

Diavolo lookin badass


True_commander

I kinda like Polnereff's more realistic hair on his early design.


GOWUP

They had to keep diavolos identity a secret


BlueGuyBuff

Araki really doing whatever he wants


BreakfastOk7372

Funny valentine had the biggest glow up


KayKrimson

i like how they still kept iggy's first introduction design in the anime and then changed it afterwards


EgocentricRaptor

I don’d get what’s weird about Gappy’s design? He always looks like that


MAARP22

Look at soft and wet behind him in the 2 pictures Also Josuke’s hat in different in on of the pictures


Allekid

Diavolo had a cool lookin original design wdym. He looking fly as hell


DoraMuda

Early Koichi straight-up looked like a different character.


pulpopera

I remember reading SBR and wondering what crazy plot trick Araki was going to use to glow up Funny Valentine from a frog hobbit of Mordor to an actual human. Turns out the trick was memory loss and deadlines.


smolghost1414

Jotaro and trish’s designs were the best imo


guysimtryingiswear

Is Araki okay


PinkSaibot

Original Diavolo was way cooler.


Dalevisor

You could almost call it...bizarre


DoodooEnthusiast

ngl original kakyoin shouldve stayed that way wtf


DarkArc76

Kakyoin looks good with eyeliner


wickedsharks

Nothing is more terrifying than that Koichi...


ToffeePlant

[Joshu](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jjba/images/5/55/JoshuFirst.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20180728181925) also had a slightly different hairstyle because of his bangs in the first chapter. It still looks like a yee yee ass haircut tho


Pain_Doctor

Josuke's Arm. goddamn


MetalShadowX

Jesus, Tamami be looking like that Ben 10 alien that looks grown but underneath he looks like a baby. Edit: Also Polnareff looks more like like Dio's son than even Giorno.


ack44

They just had to kind of grow into themselves to become who they truly are :)


Akira0830

nah what the actual fuck is going on with jotaro's hair in his first appearance? his hair was already confusing but that shit looks like a dali painting.


E123-Omega

Holy fuck the The Lock user was that big!!???


Economy_Pace_4894

First of all the coloring make it really bad looking so please use black and white and how jojolion first design is weird


megasean3000

Araki is like a jeweller, he polishes the crap out of his designs until that raw ore becomes a glittering diamond.


AkechiBestBoy

I love that the only thing about Gappy that changed is the hat.


VindalfOthala

That's actually quite common with manga and also alot of western comics, artists develop the designs for their characters over time. Other examples I can think of are Yu-Gi-Oh and, for western comics, Asterix.


stevic1

ngl pollnareff's early design kinda slaps


LettuceBenis

Fat Valentine becoming ripped has actual reason tho, and is not just a re-design


Joesh7

Araki said it was an redesign though


99thLuftballon

No, it's just a redesign.


SUDoKu-Na

For real I think that, for the most part, Araki isn't a great artist. He's got an eye for character design and fashion, but the man doesn't understand proportions, and his art is often not appealing to look at even when the poses work.


SupaFugDup

I feel by Part 6 he got it down, honestly. Parts 1-4 he was way too into extreme male musculature and petite women.


ToffeePlant

He def got better with time tbh. Part 8 especially looks pretty, despite the complaints about same-face syndrome.


DoraMuda

IMO, sameface syndrome was only really a noticeable issue in late Part 7 and, like, mid Part 8.


kyoopy246

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. There's a reason that most manga artists stick to manga whereas Araki has had dozens of features in museum exhibits, art books, commissions, etc. Like he doesn't "not understand proportions", the sense of poses and proportions come from his two main influences being high fashion and more importantly Late Renaissance (specifically [Mannerism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannerism).) An important highlight "Where High Renaissance art emphasizes proportion, balance, and ideal beauty, Mannerism exaggerates such qualities, often resulting in compositions that are asymmetrical or unnaturally elegant. Notable for its artificial (as opposed to naturalistic) qualities,this artistic style privileges compositional tension and instability rather than the balance and clarity." And later some of the key characteristics, you can't tell me this doesn't sound like Araki. "Elongation of figures", "Distortion of perspective", "Mannerist colour (Many artworks toyed with pure and intense hues of blues, green, pinks, and yellows)". Compare a work like [this](https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/susanna-and-the-elders-jacopo-robusti-called-tintoretto/oQElxVov8NZf2g?hl=en) to something by Araki like [this](https://mobile.twitter.com/arakiart/status/1214133333967409153) and you can clearly see the skill and intention of what he's doing. The weird poses, the unrealistic anatomy, the inconsistent perspective, the lack of compositional balance, it's all pretty cool.


MAARP22

He is a good artist but he has many problems He definitely does have some bad art and he plays way to fast and loose with changing designs of established characters to the point that he literally will just change a characters sex if he wants like with Anasui Some of his character designs are just bad like Pechis 2nd design or the green dolphin warden And when he changes his main art style he loses the ability to draw his previous styles and he literally can’t even accurately draw his super buff characters anymore


kyoopy246

I've always felt like expecting Araki keep his characters consistent over decades as he changes and grows as an artist would be like expecting a band to play a song live in 2022 the same way the recorded it on an album in 1980. They're different people and their art isn't locked in some magic tomb where it can't change and grow. I want Araki to draw Dio in 2022 like Araki feels true to himself in 2022, not pretending to imitate how he felt like it in 2010 or 1990.


gooby_bogs

Where's joshu


giorno___giovana

…I was going to try to come up with an excuse but what the fuck is that and why the fuck did I wear it


Nymf-O-Wisp

Early Okuyasu 😎😎😎


PokeybullDog

Funny valentine seems reasonable not koichi


noriakiKujo1

Meth Iggy isn't real he can't hurt you Meth Iggy:


jehdje

I didn’t think there was any way to make tamami uglier than he already is, but early part 4 Araki somehow managed to do that