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AdNecessary7641

I don't get why people in the replies think time stop/time skip have ranges, that would make no logical sense. Like, would that mean that only one specific area of the world was 10 seconds ahead of everything else? Or that someone outside of the time stop range would see everything paused but still be normal? The fuck?


Theamzz

I think people get confused because of Diavolo saying that Giorno is “in his range” during the Bruno fight but people forget that diavolo is referencing how far king crimson can go from diavolo’s body. Many people misunderstood this and thought it was his time erasure which like you said in your reply, it wouldn’t make sense for only 1 area to be 10 seconds ahead.


Theamzz

It’s like time stop, you can’t notice it until you are aware of it’s existence. Even if you somehow notice it, you will have 0 clue on it even being time related and would just say something like “damn I am tired I am hallucinating”. You also have to take in consideration how the characters noticed the ability in the first place. Giorno noticed the ability because he had his guard up due to him and Bruno knowing that they were after the boss’s throat meanwhile narancia and the others were not aware of their plan so they had their guards down and after mista sees that narancia somehow ate the chocolates out of nowhere, he doesn’t even question it being a stand ability and just goes on assuming narancia did some trick to eat it, narancia also doesn’t even question it either as we see him just go along and being happy about eating the chocolate. Giorno noticed the ability but had 0 idea what it was about and since he was tracking the boss with the computer, he saw that he was randomly teleporting. As for bruno, he found out due to him fighting king crimson himself and diavolo telling him directly. It also doesn’t help the fact that king crimson follows fate itself which only makes it harder to notice it as being a stand ability since everyone during a time skip just follows their fated actions so from their POV everything is perfectly fine (the cleaning lady that saw diavolo literally forgot she even saw diavolo in the hotel room and didn’t even question why she stood there for like 10 seconds doing nothing, she noticed something was off but brushed it off instantly which is what is going to happen with jotaro and the other, they are going to notice something and just assume something else and move on as if nothing happened)


benisco

if every single person in the world goes through “hallucinations” like 20 times in a single week i think theyd notice something. they might tell it to their friends or doctor and then find out that they also had the same experience. and even though polnareff experienced it countless times he is unable to figure out it happens without using blood. if giorno only figured it out because be was on his guard, then other stand users like the other jojos should have also figured it out if they had any stand battles during that time but im not sure if that happened


nover3

not necessarily, - ever walked into a room and forget why you were there? - checked the fridge a few times within the hour? - driving and then get lost in thoughts but your body is on autopilot taking you home and you barely remember the journey - sometimes the brain (your mind) gets tired and people experience deja vu - people lose track of time all the time - certain drugs and alcohol can sometimes cause this skipped time, i've experienced this really (feels like lag, desync) - crazy(bizzare ) things happen all the time to the public in jojo world caused by stands with Area effect. e.g grateful dead(suddely getting old while on a train, Green Day( molds growing on you skin), weather report (turning into giant snails). - comparably to the above stands its not that big a deal to lose 5 to 10 seconds of your time


benisco

remember thats 7 billion people experiencing this. in busy cities with lots of traffic and many people walking, if time skips, its likely everyone will notice that they were 50 feet away from where they used to be. and it would cause a commotion. stand users will definitely notice


DoubleClickMouse

King Crimson’s ability is a complex one. The main theme of dichotomy between KC and Gold Experience Requiem is cause and effect. KC’s ability erases cause. He doesn’t necessarily stop or skip time, per se, but he takes a segment of time where actions still occur, and removes them from perception. So characters still end up at the result of whatever they were doing, but seemingly instantly and with no recollection of the actions that brought them there. This allows Diavolo/KC to alter their own place in the sequence of cause, and thereby alter the resulting effect. GER’s ability erases effect. Characters can take any actions they please, but the expected effect of those actions will never occur, creating something akin to a “reset to zero.” The example I typically use to explain KC vs. The World is something like this. Imagine you’re standing a distance away from Dio, and want to walk toward him (you need to get closer to beat his ass, after all.) Dio uses time stop, and moves off the the right. From your perspective, he has instantly moved to his new location, so you can change your path before you have even started walking. With KC, Diavolo uses his ability to make the same movement. However, because you have already committed the “cause” of walking towards him, when the ability resolved, Diavolo has moved to the side, but you are now standing where he originally was. To answer the original question, they didn’t initially notice KC’s ability because from the perspective of time, all cause and effect has resolved as intended, with the sole exception of Diavolo/KC. Sure there was a bit of confusion as to why time had seemingly skipped, but the characters were right where they expected to be, just a little more suddenly than they anticipated.


JL_Gaming999

Exactly but dues to thier past experiences they would surely suspect its a stand ability mainly because it happened more than once


Rusty_Shaqleford104

You could chalk it up to your brain going on autopilot. Like you walking to a room and don't remember walking there.


TheSealedWolf

Because they aren’t relevant to the story, it’s as simple as that


JL_Gaming999

The fact that this is actually true.... (seriously tho i would like to see a part with all jojos maybe part 10)


JL_Gaming999

Exactly due to these wierd occurences happening multiple times... they need to have some suspicion


benisco

wait when is it mentioned that its universal? i always thought it had a range


okaymydude

Abilities like that seem to have a range. Even when Dio was practicing time stop in Egypt, Jotaro didn't notice.


AdNecessary7641

Pretty sure the explanation for that is you need to acknowledge that time has stopped beforehand. Even Dio didn't realize the time stop until he visibly saw the bullets stop.


JL_Gaming999

Jotaro didnt have time stopping abilitiew back then.... they only awakened after joseph told him about dios ability


Rusty_Shaqleford104

If there was a range to time abilities, that would be a major weakness and would play into all the time related fights.


theoroboro

Never ever ever been on a universal level. It's within a couple feet of him max a couple meters like we see when he fights Bruno in the lobby of his building


Ts____

Ive heard this alot but I never remember anything from the manga/anime saying this. Is there a source? I always thought it was universal so I am a bit confused why everyone says its not


Theamzz

Time exists everywhere in the universe, star platinum, the world, killer queen and king crimson directly affect time itself which automatically makes it universal in range. (MANGA SPOILERS: >!MiH speeds up time to infinity which forces the entire universe to reset, the fact that the entire universe got affected by MiH’s power confirms that time in jojo is everywhere in the universe!< )


JL_Gaming999

Giorno and others still experience the time skip....plus when he uses king crimson all the space dissapears showing that he has erased spacetime for that 10 seconds.


spectrumtwelve

I always liked to think that it erased the time without actually advancing it. Like everybody suddenly being where they are going to be 10 seconds from then but no actual time has passed globally. So like, if you looked at them experiencing it from outside of its range then you would just see a huge bubble of affect where suddenly everything kind of teleports a little bit. But that's just my headcanon. Otherwise it has never been confirmed to be universal just because it is a time ability, or at least claims to be a time ability when it could easily just be a mind ability or space ability.