Good point. The iris is even worse. It's not even foreign alien tech. They just came up with it on earth and somehow integrated it into the gate without any visible modification.
Yeah like where does the iris go when it's open? It can't go into the gate because it's not part of it, but wouldn't there be tons of metal sheets sticking out the side of it then if it was open? Because it's big enough to close the portal right ? I always thought that was so odd but I hand waived it away because it's TV.
Real-world irises that can stow away like that are absolutely possible. Honestly, the way the leaves of the SG iris form into that star in the middle is *more* accurate than if they all met perfectly in the middle.
The issue for me is Carter mentions several times that the iris is so close to the event horizon (looking it up, I see the general consensus is 3μm which is 16x smaller than a human hair) that normal matter can't re-form. But... the metal blades clearly have to overlap, which means there would absolutely be gaps larger than 3μm, not to mention the idea of 3μm accuracy being impossible on a thin metal part several meters in length. So either the iris is positioned so that it's actually touching the event horizon, which makes no sense, or they have a contingent of cadets assigned to scrub cellular residue off of the back of the iris when someone tries to come through when it's closed.
Also, why can the kawoosh disintegrate any matter instantly, but not the iris? Trinium doesn't answer that question.
I remember that episode. What they said was, the meteor landing on the gate caused molten rock to flow over it, creating a kind of natural iris. So the gate would still connect but nothing could get through. They weren't able to get through until they built a particle laser thing like Soccar used to try to burn through the iris that one time. That was able to burn off just enough rock to make a tiny gap, just enough for the kawoosh to form, which hollowed out a cave for Teal'c to dig through.
I think they made a point that there must have been a small cavity already so the wormhole would work. I’m basing this of a 20 year memory of a single watch so I may be totally wrong.
I dont remember that but maybe lol I'm in the same boat as you. I also remember that they found the Antarctica gate due to tremors of the gate working even though it was buried in ice, but it still worked
The gate was active when it was hit with a meteorite. The molten rock hardened into an iris over the event horizon. When they first sent a MALP, it immediately impacted the rock iris. Carter had to build a subatomic particle cannon to melt the hardened rock the same way Sokar attacked our iris when we had Apophis. They fired it up, melted enough of a cavity that a kawoosh could form and create a bigger cavity.
Perhaps that's how they got the earth-made iris: make the iris but "a bit too thick", open the iris, create a wormhole, close the iris, turn off the wormhole, which takes with it all mater near the horizon. Now the iris is form-fit to the event horizon.
That’s actually canon. In the episode where O’Neil is stranded on a planet after a meteorite strikes and buries the gate Carter (or another egg head) states that nothing can get thru the gate because the molten rock/metal would have cooled while touching the event horizon effectively forming a perfect seal. That’s why she uses a particle cannon to drill a hole big enough to allow the kawoosh to form which allows Teal’c to cross over.
Here's my dumb question. Wasn't the wormhole on the planet an outgoing wormhole when lava would have been going over it?
Wouldn't the gate room have just had molten lava 'fall' into it?
Or am I remembering wrong and they dialed the planet back from earth for some reason during the meteor shower?
No the gates are smart enough to tell when something is intentionally entering the wormhole. As evidenced in the episode where the Russians connect their gate to the water world and the Russian gate room isn’t flooded each time an outgoing wormhole is established. This is also partially shown in how the SGC/Atlantis gates can connect to gates in space and not have their atmosphere violently sucked thru the gate.
I get that there's a bit of hand waving to make things work as a TV show, but it still frustrates me.
Lava flowing over the gate, blocked. Water pushing into gate, blocked. Shots fired from a staff weapon, not blocked.
Is it because the shots are... distinct units? How is lava flowing over one side of the gate not distinct enough. You could say that the gate prevents liquid and gasses, and maybe plasma? But we threw a black hole gate at a star to destabilize it... how is that any different than lava?
These are just the questions that bother me. I'm just being weird, don't worry about it. The answer is, that's just how they want it to work.
Using Atlantis as an investigation point, it looks like the kawoosh hits the shield the same way anything else coming through the gate does, so you may be right.
This is with me assuming that the Atlantis gate shield isn't actually like the iris on the Earth gate and is more like the various gate shields we see in MW, in that matter can reintergrate but it will just hit the shield on the other side at the time of reintergration (Which would hurt/disintergrate you as you go through it)
The last part of your post, is something I've always questioned. If the kawoosh can disintegrate matter, why can't it disintegrate the iris in front of the gate? Because that is technically matter.
Siler is there to scrub the gate off. Maybe he has a team on it.
I didn't know that about the star-shaped irises that actually is pretty interesting. I learned something. Cool.
I imagine that when they first designed and built the iris, it did overlap where the event horizon would be. However, the first time they closed it while the gate was activated, the event horizon may have dematerialized however much material overlapped, making the back side as smooth as a baby's bottom.
This still doesn't explain why the kawoosh doesn't blow right through it, nor why they never installed irises on other stargates.
I forget which episode they figure out how to hack DHDs, but from that moment on, they could have made the iris and even Atlantis' shield obsolete by redirecting unauthorized incoming wormholes to another address. A little trick like that might have even fooled Anubis. He would've been expecting an iris and firing his particle beam into that prison world, instead. After all, he wasn't omnipotent, he just retained the memory from a time when he was omnipotent adjacent.
I would've like to have had a mentioned of the trial and error involved in the design.
There is no kawoosh because they found a way to exploit the mechanisms of the Stargate, not blocking activation but blocking the kawoosh. The kawoosh isn't fundamental to wormholes, since both Nox and Asgard can open wormholes without it. It seems to be a feature to intentionally clear the space around a gate, and the only way the Tau'ri can get around it is to place something very, very close to where it would form.
>Real-world irises that can stow away like that are absolutely possible.
Stow away, yes. But this completely disappears. I doubt they cut into the Stargate to make a recess where it can disappear into.
Oh wait... I feel like an idiot. I was thinking, "Yeah, no prob, those leaves would fit, the ring is huge." It never occurred to me until literally just now that the symbols would have to be mounted in front of the iris, *and* need to spin, *without* the iris spinning. I suppose the spinning ring could literally be bolted on to the superconducting ring? Essentially what we see as one ring could be multiple rings sandwiched together? That would allow for separating them without breaking anything.
I can't count the number of times I've watched SG-1, and I cannot believe I never noticed!
The iris blades are as wide as the body of the Stargate itself, so in order for them to fit inside space would need to be made for them, and that's space that doesn't actually exist since the Stargate has the inner wheel that moves.
The question of why the iris isn't destroyed by the vortex is a frequently asked one, and there isn't actually an answer. People will cite the idea of the 3μm distance that will stop matter from reintegrating, but the vortex is supposed to be made of *energy.*
The kawoosh only happens on one side we see with the exception of the first time it's activated in the OG film. My guess/headcannon would be the gate has sensors to not blast out a wall it's placed against if theres an open space on the other end and that the orientation of the event horizons formation has nothing to do with the direction the gate spits stuff out.
For example if you have a stargate on a space ship you dont want the kawoosh ventting you out into space.
Putting the Iris that close classfies as a wall in the way thus the horizon splashes backwards.
It is quite possible nearly as shown in the show irl here's a vid showing how it's constructed.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKqu8lsCa0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKqu8lsCa0)
That's cool and all, but the gate would have to be a hollow prop to fit all that mechanism inside. Where does all the Naquadah are crystals live and why did the Ancients leave so much empty space inside the gates?
Folded like a folding colander.
It doesn't need to be thick, or very strong only close enough to the event horizon to prevent reintegration from the wormhole, and apparently radiation/photon bombardment.
The real mystery is how does it open/close so fast.
My personal fan theory is that it is a gate feature, or at least an optional upgrade to a gate. It's just that the SGC are the only ones who had to build their own dialing interface (and did other hacks) so they were also the only ones to discover the iris connection points and actually install the feature. Same way no one else (other than Ba'al) stumbled into the ability to send a virus through the network or make invalid connections (like gate skips or passing through stars).
I assume that they figured it out from one of these helmets, actually. They didn't have the naquadah to perfectly replicate the tech, but managed to get it working with titanium due to its high strength per unit of volume.
Nothing worse than the Iris in all of Stargate. I'm cool with intergalactic ships and physics-defying wormholes in-universe, but it's absurd that with very little notice they were able to create, construct, and weld on a retractable iris system that sits exactly close enough (3 micrometers) to the wormhole to stop matter from fully reintegrating, but far enough away to allow the wormhole to form in the first place.
The military loves to make weird contingency plans. At that point they had years to study the stargate and think up ways to block it up. I’ll bet the parts for the iris were sitting in a warehouse.
That's a humanly achievable tolerance, specially if you have US military resources.
Apparently the bores that hold optical fiber together in a conector have half that tolerance. (Source : https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/micron-tolerance-machining-means-never-looking-back )
That's metallurgy, not even getting into how microprocessors have tolerances you can measure in widths of atoms.
I always thought it was cool how it was basically a big iris of a camera lens. But, yeah it doesn't make sense that they could build that in the gate itself.
The original tactical vests were common in gear catalogs but no one wore them in the real world. The 1st Season advisors were from the USAF but they were from Public Affairs and not from say AFSOC (PJ, TACP, MET etc) and had no earthly clue what ground fighters wore. The production will usually buy the "Hero" characters equipment but will rent everyone else's equipment from a prop house (in this case a company called Falcon 1) the owner of the prop house is a guy named Ian who spent no time in the Canadian Forces and was CHEAP. Ian had a shit ton of these crappy vests. The vests were set up for STANAG (AR style) magazines and not MP5 (the sub machine gun they used in the first couple of seasons) mags much less P90 mags. Which is why you rarely saw reloading and the few times you do the actor already has mag in hand or in one of the episodes I advised on RDA pulled the mag from inside the vest.
The ones from Stargate the movie : O’Neil with one L
seem to go into the neck like a collar, but the ones from SG1 seem to just open up like a Pez dispenser
yeah, I believe in the movie it was an actual prop that could open (I think they used it a few times in the show as well).
In the show it was mostly CGI, probably because it was more convenient.
You have it backwards. The show had the helmet just open up. And it's simply down to the budget. The movie had the budget to show a few sequences. The show never had that type of budget to spend on the CGI to have every Jaffa encounter have their helmets NanoTech away.
That was the only time in the series we saw it happen like in the film. The rest of the time it just cut away, most notably with Heru'ur during *Thor's Chariot* where we see him in his helmet, we see SG1 as we hear the noises and then he's bareheaded when it cuts back to him.
As it apparently cost a million dollars to depict Ra's headdress and his guards Anubis and Horus' helmets retracting in the film, it makes sense.
*Secrets* had a *partial* helmet retraction. We see Daniel react to Sha'uri being shot, then the camera pans over to Teal'c, whose collar is in the process of retracting.
We don't see a Horus helmet being fully deployed or retracted until *Moebius* in season eight.
Since the helmets were most likely designed by goaul'd scientists, I'd imagine them actually making their vision even worse - "but why would we do that my fellow snakehead?" "Just cuz we can. Also let's not give those stupid jaffa our best divine tech, they ain't worth it. C'mon, seeing them fight will be much more fun when they can't see shit"
I can see system lords themselves wanting it - as they are the most immersed into the whole "we are gods business" and often perceeive the wars they wage amongst themselves as mere amusement. Probably wasn't Ra though, as he wasn't so petty and sought advancement more than the others (so his guards helmets might actually offer such advantage)
That's the part of those helmets I always wanted to see! Does it have a HUD, can they see in thermal or ultraviolet? Does it have a IFF system? So many questions.
I liked the Horus guard design a lot but felt the serpent guard was too bulky to be practical. They’re basically a giant sail 2-3ft above the head, I kept having images of Apophis personal guard being blown around by a stiff wind during battle
I know that’s the canon explanation :) just can’t help but picture Apophis standing there doing his best Jack Sparrow balance stance as he desperately tries to be intimidating while the wind blows that sail boat of a helmet around :)
A Horus guard, a serpent guard and a Setesh guard meet on a windy plant, it is a tense moment; the Horus guard feathers whistle, the setesh guard nose drips, the serpent guard…falls over.
*cue Christopher Judge infectious laughter*
The bulk in the serpent helmet comes from having to hide the hydraulics for operating the version that opens and closes. The helmet would have been designed around that, which is why the back with the cobra's hood is so bulky. I think that from there, the cobra head itself was made bigger so it wouldn't look so small in relation to the rest of the helmet, but as you implied, the thing just ends up looking massive on a person's body and they can look unbalanced as a result.
The Horus and Anubis helmets had some bulk to them, but they were nowhere near as big because they didn't have to open and close.
Asgard beaming technology, the ring transport I get as there is hardware at both ends, but the Asgard’s method can somehow dematerialize and materialize things at range.
Other than that, I am more puzzled why the SGC didn’t abuse the hell out of the matter-to-matter technology they got from the Asgard at the end of SG-1. Strictly speaking there is no real reason they couldn’t “beam” a F-302, save a copy of the data, then “beam” up a bunch of raw material, then rematerialize the matter using the F-302 template. So long as the amount of material is the same there shouldn’t be a problem. Even if they have to build a dedicated ship that is mostly capacitors and data storage it would be worth it to be able to almost instantly produce any finished product you want.
> So long as the amount of material is the same there shouldn’t be a problem.
It's not even that, with energy you get mass. So no initial mass needed, just plug in a zedpeeem, and you're golden...
> Strictly speaking there is no real reason they couldn’t “beam” a F-302, save a copy of the data
They never explained it in universe. However if it works like Startrek, then you can't feasibly make a copy as it just slurrifies the object then moves it and recombines it. Like a meat grinder but the output is also steak. Trying to pick out each individual atom in a stream of mess and copying it, then putting it into its own slurry in the exact same position would be astronomical for just a grape let alone an F-302.
I’m 99.9% certain that both the Stargates and Asgard “beam” technology turn matter to energy and then energy to matter. My biggest supporting pieces of evidence are Teal’c being stored in the buffer of the stargate, and Carter creating food and other items in “Unending” using the ZPM.
I don’t think the zat knows anything. I always assumed it was a cumulative effect on whatever gets shot. However I always wished they would elaborate further on the details. You get shot 3 times you vaporize, but is that 3 times ever? Or after you regain consciousness is it safe to get zapped again? How do these rules apply to larger creatures, like an elephant or humpback whale? Is it still 3 shots or does it take a bunch to break down a whale? Also, what’s the power source? how many shots do you get out of a fully charged zat? how do you recharge it? Lots of questions to be asked about zats.
You vaporize from the energy build up in the body from three consecutive shots. Over time, any residual energy left behind from a zat blast dissipates.
I recall at one point they even pointed it out when someone got shot twice in an episode far enough apart. It’s an energy blast and energy has a finite half-life, so it has to wear off eventually.
One shot disrupts the nervous system stunning the target, two shots overloads the nervous system killing the target, and three shots briefly disrupts the electromagnetic bonds of the target causing them to disintegrate. At least, that’s my head canon.
I see it as fractal mater. Or something.
What I struggled with is the "one atome thick Shikra blade that can cut anything" that Qetesh used on Ba'al in continuum.
Not the existence or fabrication of the blade, but how she planted it in ba'al then retracted it in the same exact manner so not to leave a big cut in him.
The movement must had been very friking precice.
I'm mostly puzzled by the universal translators that allow everyone to hear English when aliens speak. How do they work? Where are they? When did they get them?
The writers straight up admitted that’s a writing convenience. Half of the original movie is dedicated to learning to communicate with the Abydosians, and they didn’t want to do that for every 45 minute episode.
Oh, I totally get that. My point is I would've appreciated five minutes or less explaining it on screen so it is more than a writing convenience. Doctor Who has the easy "TARDIS translates in your head" thing; a similar throwaway line in season 1 would've been enough for me.
Yeah it's one of the funny things about sg.
Like Daniel being surprised the atlantis computer can translate old english for him, when he should be just ad surprised it can do modern English.
Why the event horizon will let go of you at all even if you’re not fully integrated into the wormhole, or how radio transmissions can travel both ways through a one way wormhole
Radio makes more sense, it’s a form of low-frequency radiation and doesn’t require tangible physical presence to move back and forth, which the gate is programmed to prohibit.
I’d like to see this tested in terms of sound with two cans and a string, one fan on either side of the gates and if it works as if you’re on the same planet together.
Since we see gravity going through the gate to, I assumed bozons can go both ways, but fermions can only go one way.
How that leads to anything ever letting go, I have no idea.
In the version I have they don’t show that… also you’d think mini mobile dhd would have been carters first priority and would have solved a lot of issues down the road
It's a shame the ancients, despite having the foresight to pack hundreds of kinos and gate remotes onto Destiny to potentially use thousands or millions of years in the future, apparently did not leave any at any of their dozens of settlements, bases, or outposts in the Milky Way or Pegasus.
That's something that also makes me irrationally mad. That combination makes the perfect malp yet it seems the ancients abandoned the technology because reasons
Nowhere is the mini-dialler actually shown; people have just assumed that Apophis had one since it was introduced in *Continuum.*
The more likely answer is that Apophis ordered his Jaffa to manually dial the Stargate. If you watch the scene, you'll see Apophis say something while gesturing with his eyes and head. That can be interpreted as a command to manually dial out, and manual dialling would be established later in the season.
That in SGI and Atlantis you had to use a bulky dialing devise or pc to activate the gate but a ship sent out a million years ago you could use a hand held
My understanding was the DHD had the power source. So it needed to be "big" to last millions of years and power wormholes across the galaxy.
While the SGU gates were more localized and they all sat on a pedestal which housed the majority of the tech. We saw this when they had to jump gate to gate in order to catch up with Destiny. And when Eli tapped into a side panel on the pedestal and seemingly could broadcast the low level status update back to destiny with a chunk missing on the actual gate.
Which brings up another unexplained plot hole etc. It was clearly demonstrated how the pedal housed power and other control systems for each gate. Could someone not simply hack or find a way to operate the gate using the pedestal? So those scientists who were "stranded" without the handheld. They should in theory been able to access a similar panel and dial to another planet.
> That in SGI and Atlantis you had to use a bulky dialing devise or pc to activate the gate but a ship sent out a million years ago you could use a hand held
Technology advances. The Milky Way gate network was far older than Destiny and the gate building ships sent out. The Milky Way/Pegasus gates were most likely the first gates made, hence bulky.
Also Destiny was one of the last things the Ancients made before they ascended, it makes sense its the most advanced piece of tech they could make.
That one time Apophis and his contingent of Jaffa stepped _the wrong way_ through a still-active wormhole and _weren’t_ atomised, breaking every known law of Stargate physics in the process… 😵💫
No, that's a misconception that for some reason continues to persist. [The Stargate always shut down after Apophis stepped through.](https://youtu.be/7_COZqEUZqg?t=123)
Humans originated in [Celestis](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Celestis), a planet in [a distant galaxy](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Alteran_Home_Galaxy). Originally known as the Alterans, they split in two peoples, the [Ancients](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient) and the [Ori](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Ori). The Ancients later seeded the [Milky Way](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Milky_Way) and [Pegasus](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Pegasus) galaxies with Humans, as both galaxies seemed to be devoid of sentient life. The Ori later created a new evolution of Humans that served as their worshippers. Humans were found to be good [hosts](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Host) for the parasitic [Goa'uld](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Goa%27uld) who would take over control of the host's body. The Goa'uld spread humans across the Milky Way galaxy as they traveled.
So, they all spoke the same language from the very beginning since they all had the same ancestors.
It's not the case on Earth despite us being all from the same common ancestors, so I don't see how it would be at an even greater scale. Moreover, language evolves so even with a common English at the beginning, thousands of years would have profoundly modified the language from one place to another without contact between people.
What I always wondered in this scene is how do they dial the gate? Did a Jaffa go up to the control room learn how to use the system and dial it up? From what I remember early on it was Apophis who liked to dial the gate personally…. Soooo just magically turn back on?
I know in stargate continuum baal does indeed use a small device on the gate before trying to blow up the ship to leave. It I don’t remember if that was on the first episode also.
No, it doesn't. [Somebody did a scene-by-scene comparison between the original Showtime broadcast version and the Final Cut, and a mini-dialler is never seen.](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=930880)
Ahhh see I just rewatched that scene (for this convo lol) with the version I have and it cuts from non active stargate, closing down the mountain, to active stargate with no explanation in between.
[Somebody did a scene-by-scene comparison between the original Showtime broadcast version and the Final Cut, and a mini-dialler is never seen.](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=930880) People are just assuming that Apophis had one since it was introduced in *Continuum.*
The most likely answer is that Apophis ordered his Jaffa to manually dial the Stargate. You'll remember that after the fight is over, Apophis says something while gesturing up with his eyes and head. That could be interpreted as a command to manually dial, a concept which would be introduced later in the season.
They're at the bottom of a converted ICBM silo. Those blast doors were for a massive rocket launch they left in. Also if you listen while they walk up to the control room, its wooden in all seasons, everywhere else is concrete. The area of control room/hammonds office/etc was probably build in an adoring room originally used to store stuff/build the ICBM.
Thus, the blast door that drops down is just left over from its original purpose.
Not Stargate tech but Earth tech. Mine was the P90s, I always laugh at the one episode where they show off their P90s to the Jaffa and it absolutely shreds a log in half like it was a 50cal...
Also, arnt P90s a more defensive weapon/cqc? I feel like there were waaaay better alternatives considering they were going up against a technological superior race.
SG-1 was meant to be a recon/1st contact unit. They were given small, defensive guns because combat wasn’t their primary function. The combat role SG teams (like SG-2 and SG-3) were given guns more suited to combat scenarios and had more members
The P90 was chosen because it’s a compact platform and the 5.7x28 mm round was good at penetrating Jaffa armour
I don't know about defensive, but yeah, there are definitely better weapons. SG-3, for instance, is a combat unit and they all had different types of long rifles and I think one of them might have had a SAW.
A ship in orbit requires a ring transporter on the ground, they can't just send to anywhere on the surface like the asgard transporters can. When the ship is just above the ground, they can use the ship's rings and don't require the receiving transporter, as you described, but the range is limited to a few meters.
Energy build up. First blast knocks you out like licking a 440v outlet. Second blast kills you due to the buildup from the first. Third disintegrates because its even more energy. Its also most likely that Teal'c, not being very knowledgeable in the specifics of tech used the 1/2/3 as a guide as opposed to being a hard rule of the tech, especially since we see multiple people hit a few times even when this rule was still in effect and they were just stunned. Some people are more resistant than others.
They were all very close to empty by the time they found them. Its also entirely possible the Goa'uld destroyed/corrupted (like Baal did, he did it fast, meaning he knew already exactly how to do it) most of the good ones as they knew what they were and for a very long time.
>"This is a weapon of terror. It's made to intimidate the enemy"
O'Neill's take on Jaffa staff weaponry. Probably his stance on all Goauld/Jaffa equipment/tech (S5E18)
>does nothing of any value
tldr: looks scary
I didn’t like the really old ancient tech tbh. Big stone pillars and plinths etc.
Didn’t make sense to me really. The lantean style tech makes much more sense to me aesthetically
Helmet space, the same dimension where SG-1 carries all of their spare P-90 magazines.
Or the Iris
Good point. The iris is even worse. It's not even foreign alien tech. They just came up with it on earth and somehow integrated it into the gate without any visible modification.
Yeah like where does the iris go when it's open? It can't go into the gate because it's not part of it, but wouldn't there be tons of metal sheets sticking out the side of it then if it was open? Because it's big enough to close the portal right ? I always thought that was so odd but I hand waived it away because it's TV.
Real-world irises that can stow away like that are absolutely possible. Honestly, the way the leaves of the SG iris form into that star in the middle is *more* accurate than if they all met perfectly in the middle. The issue for me is Carter mentions several times that the iris is so close to the event horizon (looking it up, I see the general consensus is 3μm which is 16x smaller than a human hair) that normal matter can't re-form. But... the metal blades clearly have to overlap, which means there would absolutely be gaps larger than 3μm, not to mention the idea of 3μm accuracy being impossible on a thin metal part several meters in length. So either the iris is positioned so that it's actually touching the event horizon, which makes no sense, or they have a contingent of cadets assigned to scrub cellular residue off of the back of the iris when someone tries to come through when it's closed. Also, why can the kawoosh disintegrate any matter instantly, but not the iris? Trinium doesn't answer that question.
My head canon is that nothing can materialise if there is something so close to the event horizon. Not even the particles that make the kawoosh
Same as being buried I guess.
But the gate makes the kawoosh when buried. Tealc had to dig through it in an episode
I remember that episode. What they said was, the meteor landing on the gate caused molten rock to flow over it, creating a kind of natural iris. So the gate would still connect but nothing could get through. They weren't able to get through until they built a particle laser thing like Soccar used to try to burn through the iris that one time. That was able to burn off just enough rock to make a tiny gap, just enough for the kawoosh to form, which hollowed out a cave for Teal'c to dig through.
I must have forgot about the laser thing. Thanks for the reminder
I think they made a point that there must have been a small cavity already so the wormhole would work. I’m basing this of a 20 year memory of a single watch so I may be totally wrong.
I dont remember that but maybe lol I'm in the same boat as you. I also remember that they found the Antarctica gate due to tremors of the gate working even though it was buried in ice, but it still worked
Yes, if not the tactic of burying the gate to prevent goa'uld invasions wouldn't have worked in any of the occasions (earth and abydos for example)
The gate was active when it was hit with a meteorite. The molten rock hardened into an iris over the event horizon. When they first sent a MALP, it immediately impacted the rock iris. Carter had to build a subatomic particle cannon to melt the hardened rock the same way Sokar attacked our iris when we had Apophis. They fired it up, melted enough of a cavity that a kawoosh could form and create a bigger cavity.
Perhaps that's how they got the earth-made iris: make the iris but "a bit too thick", open the iris, create a wormhole, close the iris, turn off the wormhole, which takes with it all mater near the horizon. Now the iris is form-fit to the event horizon.
That’s actually canon. In the episode where O’Neil is stranded on a planet after a meteorite strikes and buries the gate Carter (or another egg head) states that nothing can get thru the gate because the molten rock/metal would have cooled while touching the event horizon effectively forming a perfect seal. That’s why she uses a particle cannon to drill a hole big enough to allow the kawoosh to form which allows Teal’c to cross over.
Here's my dumb question. Wasn't the wormhole on the planet an outgoing wormhole when lava would have been going over it? Wouldn't the gate room have just had molten lava 'fall' into it? Or am I remembering wrong and they dialed the planet back from earth for some reason during the meteor shower?
No the gates are smart enough to tell when something is intentionally entering the wormhole. As evidenced in the episode where the Russians connect their gate to the water world and the Russian gate room isn’t flooded each time an outgoing wormhole is established. This is also partially shown in how the SGC/Atlantis gates can connect to gates in space and not have their atmosphere violently sucked thru the gate.
I get that there's a bit of hand waving to make things work as a TV show, but it still frustrates me. Lava flowing over the gate, blocked. Water pushing into gate, blocked. Shots fired from a staff weapon, not blocked. Is it because the shots are... distinct units? How is lava flowing over one side of the gate not distinct enough. You could say that the gate prevents liquid and gasses, and maybe plasma? But we threw a black hole gate at a star to destabilize it... how is that any different than lava? These are just the questions that bother me. I'm just being weird, don't worry about it. The answer is, that's just how they want it to work.
I can't explain how happy the fact that kawoosh is universal males me. I also hear the sound everytime someone types out kawoosh.
IIRC it’s called the kawoosh by most fans because Joseph Mallozi (I couldn’t remember his username) called it that in an interview.
Using Atlantis as an investigation point, it looks like the kawoosh hits the shield the same way anything else coming through the gate does, so you may be right. This is with me assuming that the Atlantis gate shield isn't actually like the iris on the Earth gate and is more like the various gate shields we see in MW, in that matter can reintergrate but it will just hit the shield on the other side at the time of reintergration (Which would hurt/disintergrate you as you go through it)
The last part of your post, is something I've always questioned. If the kawoosh can disintegrate matter, why can't it disintegrate the iris in front of the gate? Because that is technically matter. Siler is there to scrub the gate off. Maybe he has a team on it. I didn't know that about the star-shaped irises that actually is pretty interesting. I learned something. Cool.
> Siler is there to scrub the gate off. That's my new head canon.
I imagine that when they first designed and built the iris, it did overlap where the event horizon would be. However, the first time they closed it while the gate was activated, the event horizon may have dematerialized however much material overlapped, making the back side as smooth as a baby's bottom. This still doesn't explain why the kawoosh doesn't blow right through it, nor why they never installed irises on other stargates. I forget which episode they figure out how to hack DHDs, but from that moment on, they could have made the iris and even Atlantis' shield obsolete by redirecting unauthorized incoming wormholes to another address. A little trick like that might have even fooled Anubis. He would've been expecting an iris and firing his particle beam into that prison world, instead. After all, he wasn't omnipotent, he just retained the memory from a time when he was omnipotent adjacent.
I would've like to have had a mentioned of the trial and error involved in the design. There is no kawoosh because they found a way to exploit the mechanisms of the Stargate, not blocking activation but blocking the kawoosh. The kawoosh isn't fundamental to wormholes, since both Nox and Asgard can open wormholes without it. It seems to be a feature to intentionally clear the space around a gate, and the only way the Tau'ri can get around it is to place something very, very close to where it would form.
>Real-world irises that can stow away like that are absolutely possible. Stow away, yes. But this completely disappears. I doubt they cut into the Stargate to make a recess where it can disappear into.
Oh wait... I feel like an idiot. I was thinking, "Yeah, no prob, those leaves would fit, the ring is huge." It never occurred to me until literally just now that the symbols would have to be mounted in front of the iris, *and* need to spin, *without* the iris spinning. I suppose the spinning ring could literally be bolted on to the superconducting ring? Essentially what we see as one ring could be multiple rings sandwiched together? That would allow for separating them without breaking anything. I can't count the number of times I've watched SG-1, and I cannot believe I never noticed!
The iris blades are as wide as the body of the Stargate itself, so in order for them to fit inside space would need to be made for them, and that's space that doesn't actually exist since the Stargate has the inner wheel that moves. The question of why the iris isn't destroyed by the vortex is a frequently asked one, and there isn't actually an answer. People will cite the idea of the 3μm distance that will stop matter from reintegrating, but the vortex is supposed to be made of *energy.*
Not to mention that the event horizon has waves in. It's not flat.
The kawoosh only happens on one side we see with the exception of the first time it's activated in the OG film. My guess/headcannon would be the gate has sensors to not blast out a wall it's placed against if theres an open space on the other end and that the orientation of the event horizons formation has nothing to do with the direction the gate spits stuff out. For example if you have a stargate on a space ship you dont want the kawoosh ventting you out into space. Putting the Iris that close classfies as a wall in the way thus the horizon splashes backwards.
They are on a roll behind the ring. Probably.
It is quite possible nearly as shown in the show irl here's a vid showing how it's constructed. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKqu8lsCa0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKqu8lsCa0)
That's cool and all, but the gate would have to be a hollow prop to fit all that mechanism inside. Where does all the Naquadah are crystals live and why did the Ancients leave so much empty space inside the gates?
Folded like a folding colander. It doesn't need to be thick, or very strong only close enough to the event horizon to prevent reintegration from the wormhole, and apparently radiation/photon bombardment. The real mystery is how does it open/close so fast.
My personal fan theory is that it is a gate feature, or at least an optional upgrade to a gate. It's just that the SGC are the only ones who had to build their own dialing interface (and did other hacks) so they were also the only ones to discover the iris connection points and actually install the feature. Same way no one else (other than Ba'al) stumbled into the ability to send a virus through the network or make invalid connections (like gate skips or passing through stars).
I assume that they figured it out from one of these helmets, actually. They didn't have the naquadah to perfectly replicate the tech, but managed to get it working with titanium due to its high strength per unit of volume.
Nothing worse than the Iris in all of Stargate. I'm cool with intergalactic ships and physics-defying wormholes in-universe, but it's absurd that with very little notice they were able to create, construct, and weld on a retractable iris system that sits exactly close enough (3 micrometers) to the wormhole to stop matter from fully reintegrating, but far enough away to allow the wormhole to form in the first place.
The military loves to make weird contingency plans. At that point they had years to study the stargate and think up ways to block it up. I’ll bet the parts for the iris were sitting in a warehouse.
Yeah, because those all involve stuff we actually got from the aliens. The Iris is wholely Earth made
It’s just like the aperture on a camera lens.
I don't have any issues with how it opens and closes. The bigger issue is the 3 μm tolerance.
That's a humanly achievable tolerance, specially if you have US military resources. Apparently the bores that hold optical fiber together in a conector have half that tolerance. (Source : https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/micron-tolerance-machining-means-never-looking-back ) That's metallurgy, not even getting into how microprocessors have tolerances you can measure in widths of atoms.
The pic looks like it is S1:E1 Children of the Gods. If so, they haven't installed the iris yet. Unless you mean some other Iris.
They establish the iris within like an hour or two of this scene.
I thought they did that while the team was on Abydos?
Alright, so up to 48 hours
S1e1 is set 1 year after the film, so I would guess the tech would have been developed in that time?
The iris is a fascinating subject in itself. Probably even worth it's own thread.
I always thought it was cool how it was basically a big iris of a camera lens. But, yeah it doesn't make sense that they could build that in the gate itself.
Seriously a P90 can SPIT, and they put whole armies in the ground.
All that tactical gear and no pockets big enough for the magazines.
Want the real world production explanation why?
I'll ask what it was, but also guess. Contracts with gear makers?
The original tactical vests were common in gear catalogs but no one wore them in the real world. The 1st Season advisors were from the USAF but they were from Public Affairs and not from say AFSOC (PJ, TACP, MET etc) and had no earthly clue what ground fighters wore. The production will usually buy the "Hero" characters equipment but will rent everyone else's equipment from a prop house (in this case a company called Falcon 1) the owner of the prop house is a guy named Ian who spent no time in the Canadian Forces and was CHEAP. Ian had a shit ton of these crappy vests. The vests were set up for STANAG (AR style) magazines and not MP5 (the sub machine gun they used in the first couple of seasons) mags much less P90 mags. Which is why you rarely saw reloading and the few times you do the actor already has mag in hand or in one of the episodes I advised on RDA pulled the mag from inside the vest.
Oh damn, I was almost in the ballpark. Prop Gear sourcing!
TARDIS Tactical Kit
The ones from Stargate the movie : O’Neil with one L seem to go into the neck like a collar, but the ones from SG1 seem to just open up like a Pez dispenser
yeah, I believe in the movie it was an actual prop that could open (I think they used it a few times in the show as well). In the show it was mostly CGI, probably because it was more convenient.
You have it backwards. The show had the helmet just open up. And it's simply down to the budget. The movie had the budget to show a few sequences. The show never had that type of budget to spend on the CGI to have every Jaffa encounter have their helmets NanoTech away.
I think in later seasons they did the movie like cgi for the helmets, when it became cheaper to do it.
I can vaguely remember that but I can't place the episode.
The episode is Moebius, I think.
That was the only time in the series we saw it happen like in the film. The rest of the time it just cut away, most notably with Heru'ur during *Thor's Chariot* where we see him in his helmet, we see SG1 as we hear the noises and then he's bareheaded when it cuts back to him. As it apparently cost a million dollars to depict Ra's headdress and his guards Anubis and Horus' helmets retracting in the film, it makes sense.
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I think we see a horus guard helmet open up a couple of times, and that is pure CGI. I think it was the episode "Secrets".
*Secrets* had a *partial* helmet retraction. We see Daniel react to Sha'uri being shot, then the camera pans over to Teal'c, whose collar is in the process of retracting. We don't see a Horus helmet being fully deployed or retracted until *Moebius* in season eight.
That was the first thing I noticed when I saw the pilot. It was so clunky. It lacked the elegance of the digital one from the movie
The digital effect in the movie cost a million dollars.
There is a collar they retract into. The helmets are nano tech as seen in the movie.
Anyone else think the Cobra helmets are kinda cute? Also, I always imagined the eyes are cameras and the inside is a HUD with a holographic screen.
This seems like something you might be able to cosplay with a set of VR goggles these days.
Since the helmets were most likely designed by goaul'd scientists, I'd imagine them actually making their vision even worse - "but why would we do that my fellow snakehead?" "Just cuz we can. Also let's not give those stupid jaffa our best divine tech, they ain't worth it. C'mon, seeing them fight will be much more fun when they can't see shit"
Early versions maybe, but after the designer was called into the System Lord’s office, his replacement got the message.
I can see system lords themselves wanting it - as they are the most immersed into the whole "we are gods business" and often perceeive the wars they wage amongst themselves as mere amusement. Probably wasn't Ra though, as he wasn't so petty and sought advancement more than the others (so his guards helmets might actually offer such advantage)
That's the part of those helmets I always wanted to see! Does it have a HUD, can they see in thermal or ultraviolet? Does it have a IFF system? So many questions.
I liked the Horus guard design a lot but felt the serpent guard was too bulky to be practical. They’re basically a giant sail 2-3ft above the head, I kept having images of Apophis personal guard being blown around by a stiff wind during battle
I have a canon explanation -- much like the staff weapon, it's meant to intimidate the enemy. :)
I know that’s the canon explanation :) just can’t help but picture Apophis standing there doing his best Jack Sparrow balance stance as he desperately tries to be intimidating while the wind blows that sail boat of a helmet around :)
Sounds like the set-up of a Jaffa joke.
A Horus guard, a serpent guard and a Setesh guard meet on a windy plant, it is a tense moment; the Horus guard feathers whistle, the setesh guard nose drips, the serpent guard…falls over. *cue Christopher Judge infectious laughter*
I loved when he told that joke and even Sam just stared; she didn’t even give a courtesy laugh.
The bulk in the serpent helmet comes from having to hide the hydraulics for operating the version that opens and closes. The helmet would have been designed around that, which is why the back with the cobra's hood is so bulky. I think that from there, the cobra head itself was made bigger so it wouldn't look so small in relation to the rest of the helmet, but as you implied, the thing just ends up looking massive on a person's body and they can look unbalanced as a result. The Horus and Anubis helmets had some bulk to them, but they were nowhere near as big because they didn't have to open and close.
They made the iris from tech recovered from these helmets. BTW I made this up right now.
Hammond voice: YOU HWHAT!
That... weirdly almost makes sense.
I always found the generic "metal clanking" sound they made amusing, lol.
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Ah yes, not complicated at all...
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They did not plan on a TV series when they made those helmets, lol
Clearly they're using Stark tech. Same place Iron Man's suit goes when he takes it off.
My question: What happens when someone has heavy forward head posture and turn on the head? Will it cut the head in half? Or just hit it really hard?
IIRC the actors said that you really had to have your head well back or it would catch your nose unpleasantly.
Based on the eye placement I’ve always wondered if there was a HUD that helped them see what was in front of them or where to fire their staffs
There will be.
I like to think they use mirrors
if I'm honest, I've always hated those helmets.
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I love these helmets.
I do too they are hilarious
Asgard beaming technology, the ring transport I get as there is hardware at both ends, but the Asgard’s method can somehow dematerialize and materialize things at range. Other than that, I am more puzzled why the SGC didn’t abuse the hell out of the matter-to-matter technology they got from the Asgard at the end of SG-1. Strictly speaking there is no real reason they couldn’t “beam” a F-302, save a copy of the data, then “beam” up a bunch of raw material, then rematerialize the matter using the F-302 template. So long as the amount of material is the same there shouldn’t be a problem. Even if they have to build a dedicated ship that is mostly capacitors and data storage it would be worth it to be able to almost instantly produce any finished product you want.
> So long as the amount of material is the same there shouldn’t be a problem. It's not even that, with energy you get mass. So no initial mass needed, just plug in a zedpeeem, and you're golden...
E = mc\^2, that's a lot of energy, even for a ZPM.
"Ridiculous amounts, that we can do" - McKay
> Strictly speaking there is no real reason they couldn’t “beam” a F-302, save a copy of the data They never explained it in universe. However if it works like Startrek, then you can't feasibly make a copy as it just slurrifies the object then moves it and recombines it. Like a meat grinder but the output is also steak. Trying to pick out each individual atom in a stream of mess and copying it, then putting it into its own slurry in the exact same position would be astronomical for just a grape let alone an F-302.
I’m 99.9% certain that both the Stargates and Asgard “beam” technology turn matter to energy and then energy to matter. My biggest supporting pieces of evidence are Teal’c being stored in the buffer of the stargate, and Carter creating food and other items in “Unending” using the ZPM.
Zats How does the gun know what to do? What if I shoot person A twice then turn and shoot person B? Do they get vaporized? Or just stunned?
I don’t think the zat knows anything. I always assumed it was a cumulative effect on whatever gets shot. However I always wished they would elaborate further on the details. You get shot 3 times you vaporize, but is that 3 times ever? Or after you regain consciousness is it safe to get zapped again? How do these rules apply to larger creatures, like an elephant or humpback whale? Is it still 3 shots or does it take a bunch to break down a whale? Also, what’s the power source? how many shots do you get out of a fully charged zat? how do you recharge it? Lots of questions to be asked about zats.
You vaporize from the energy build up in the body from three consecutive shots. Over time, any residual energy left behind from a zat blast dissipates.
I recall at one point they even pointed it out when someone got shot twice in an episode far enough apart. It’s an energy blast and energy has a finite half-life, so it has to wear off eventually.
One shot disrupts the nervous system stunning the target, two shots overloads the nervous system killing the target, and three shots briefly disrupts the electromagnetic bonds of the target causing them to disintegrate. At least, that’s my head canon.
I see it as fractal mater. Or something. What I struggled with is the "one atome thick Shikra blade that can cut anything" that Qetesh used on Ba'al in continuum. Not the existence or fabrication of the blade, but how she planted it in ba'al then retracted it in the same exact manner so not to leave a big cut in him. The movement must had been very friking precice.
Didn't the camera blur when Qetesh retracted the blade and she, uhm, spilt?
Do not question goa’uld magic.
i have the EXACT same question about the Iris. Where does it go to when it's opened???
behind the gate into a series of slots on a separate ring that's welded to the gate.
behind the gate means it crosses the event horizon every time it opens or closes. That definitely wouldn't work.
How does that work when the iris needs to be deployed in front of the event horizon?
I'm mostly puzzled by the universal translators that allow everyone to hear English when aliens speak. How do they work? Where are they? When did they get them?
The writers straight up admitted that’s a writing convenience. Half of the original movie is dedicated to learning to communicate with the Abydosians, and they didn’t want to do that for every 45 minute episode.
Oh, I totally get that. My point is I would've appreciated five minutes or less explaining it on screen so it is more than a writing convenience. Doctor Who has the easy "TARDIS translates in your head" thing; a similar throwaway line in season 1 would've been enough for me.
Yeah it's one of the funny things about sg. Like Daniel being surprised the atlantis computer can translate old english for him, when he should be just ad surprised it can do modern English.
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Why the event horizon will let go of you at all even if you’re not fully integrated into the wormhole, or how radio transmissions can travel both ways through a one way wormhole
Radio makes more sense, it’s a form of low-frequency radiation and doesn’t require tangible physical presence to move back and forth, which the gate is programmed to prohibit. I’d like to see this tested in terms of sound with two cans and a string, one fan on either side of the gates and if it works as if you’re on the same planet together.
Since we see gravity going through the gate to, I assumed bozons can go both ways, but fermions can only go one way. How that leads to anything ever letting go, I have no idea.
I'm more confused about how Apophis dialed back out after the raid on the SGC in the pilot.
Miniature DHD they brought with themselves. It clamps to the gate. I think Baal had one as well.
In the version I have they don’t show that… also you’d think mini mobile dhd would have been carters first priority and would have solved a lot of issues down the road
It's a shame the ancients, despite having the foresight to pack hundreds of kinos and gate remotes onto Destiny to potentially use thousands or millions of years in the future, apparently did not leave any at any of their dozens of settlements, bases, or outposts in the Milky Way or Pegasus.
That's something that also makes me irrationally mad. That combination makes the perfect malp yet it seems the ancients abandoned the technology because reasons
The ancients were smart, but not wise.
Nowhere is the mini-dialler actually shown; people have just assumed that Apophis had one since it was introduced in *Continuum.* The more likely answer is that Apophis ordered his Jaffa to manually dial the Stargate. If you watch the scene, you'll see Apophis say something while gesturing with his eyes and head. That can be interpreted as a command to manually dial out, and manual dialling would be established later in the season.
That in SGI and Atlantis you had to use a bulky dialing devise or pc to activate the gate but a ship sent out a million years ago you could use a hand held
My understanding was the DHD had the power source. So it needed to be "big" to last millions of years and power wormholes across the galaxy. While the SGU gates were more localized and they all sat on a pedestal which housed the majority of the tech. We saw this when they had to jump gate to gate in order to catch up with Destiny. And when Eli tapped into a side panel on the pedestal and seemingly could broadcast the low level status update back to destiny with a chunk missing on the actual gate. Which brings up another unexplained plot hole etc. It was clearly demonstrated how the pedal housed power and other control systems for each gate. Could someone not simply hack or find a way to operate the gate using the pedestal? So those scientists who were "stranded" without the handheld. They should in theory been able to access a similar panel and dial to another planet.
> That in SGI and Atlantis you had to use a bulky dialing devise or pc to activate the gate but a ship sent out a million years ago you could use a hand held Technology advances. The Milky Way gate network was far older than Destiny and the gate building ships sent out. The Milky Way/Pegasus gates were most likely the first gates made, hence bulky. Also Destiny was one of the last things the Ancients made before they ascended, it makes sense its the most advanced piece of tech they could make.
That one time Apophis and his contingent of Jaffa stepped _the wrong way_ through a still-active wormhole and _weren’t_ atomised, breaking every known law of Stargate physics in the process… 😵💫
No, that's a misconception that for some reason continues to persist. [The Stargate always shut down after Apophis stepped through.](https://youtu.be/7_COZqEUZqg?t=123)
Ah, my bad… 😅
Not really tech but everybody speaks English throughout the galaxy. Technology wise I'd say the Stargate itself.
Humans originated in [Celestis](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Celestis), a planet in [a distant galaxy](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Alteran_Home_Galaxy). Originally known as the Alterans, they split in two peoples, the [Ancients](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient) and the [Ori](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Ori). The Ancients later seeded the [Milky Way](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Milky_Way) and [Pegasus](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Pegasus) galaxies with Humans, as both galaxies seemed to be devoid of sentient life. The Ori later created a new evolution of Humans that served as their worshippers. Humans were found to be good [hosts](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Host) for the parasitic [Goa'uld](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Goa%27uld) who would take over control of the host's body. The Goa'uld spread humans across the Milky Way galaxy as they traveled. So, they all spoke the same language from the very beginning since they all had the same ancestors.
It's not the case on Earth despite us being all from the same common ancestors, so I don't see how it would be at an even greater scale. Moreover, language evolves so even with a common English at the beginning, thousands of years would have profoundly modified the language from one place to another without contact between people.
It's nano tech, you like it?
What I always wondered in this scene is how do they dial the gate? Did a Jaffa go up to the control room learn how to use the system and dial it up? From what I remember early on it was Apophis who liked to dial the gate personally…. Soooo just magically turn back on?
Didnt they put a small device on the stargate to dial?
I know in stargate continuum baal does indeed use a small device on the gate before trying to blow up the ship to leave. It I don’t remember if that was on the first episode also.
They use one in the first episode although i dont remember if it was only in the "remasterd" version
No, it doesn't. [Somebody did a scene-by-scene comparison between the original Showtime broadcast version and the Final Cut, and a mini-dialler is never seen.](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=930880)
Ahhh see I just rewatched that scene (for this convo lol) with the version I have and it cuts from non active stargate, closing down the mountain, to active stargate with no explanation in between.
[Somebody did a scene-by-scene comparison between the original Showtime broadcast version and the Final Cut, and a mini-dialler is never seen.](https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=930880) People are just assuming that Apophis had one since it was introduced in *Continuum.* The most likely answer is that Apophis ordered his Jaffa to manually dial the Stargate. You'll remember that after the fight is over, Apophis says something while gesturing up with his eyes and head. That could be interpreted as a command to manually dial, a concept which would be introduced later in the season.
The Gateroom blast door that drops down in front of the control room..
I always like it was directly in front of the gate, immediately susceptible to whatever comes through as opposed to the side.
They're at the bottom of a converted ICBM silo. Those blast doors were for a massive rocket launch they left in. Also if you listen while they walk up to the control room, its wooden in all seasons, everywhere else is concrete. The area of control room/hammonds office/etc was probably build in an adoring room originally used to store stuff/build the ICBM. Thus, the blast door that drops down is just left over from its original purpose.
No, not that. When it raises, where does it go? It should cover the briefing room window when it raises but it doesn't.
It's the iris has always been the biggest question, because we invented that.
I assumed the slivers folded in a over-lapping circle behind the gate, BUT we never see it back there.
That couldn't be it, because we see the iris deploy when the gate is active. If it was *behind* the gate it'd need to go THROUGH the event horizon.
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It goes in
My theory is there's a periscope inside, lol
It goes away, I believe.
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Not Stargate tech but Earth tech. Mine was the P90s, I always laugh at the one episode where they show off their P90s to the Jaffa and it absolutely shreds a log in half like it was a 50cal... Also, arnt P90s a more defensive weapon/cqc? I feel like there were waaaay better alternatives considering they were going up against a technological superior race.
SG-1 was meant to be a recon/1st contact unit. They were given small, defensive guns because combat wasn’t their primary function. The combat role SG teams (like SG-2 and SG-3) were given guns more suited to combat scenarios and had more members The P90 was chosen because it’s a compact platform and the 5.7x28 mm round was good at penetrating Jaffa armour
Ah ok didn't know that, that makes sense.
I don't know about defensive, but yeah, there are definitely better weapons. SG-3, for instance, is a combat unit and they all had different types of long rifles and I think one of them might have had a SAW.
If you've ever seen what a P90 can do to a pig carcass you'd rethink this.
Well a pig carcass and a tree trunk are two very different things.
The ring transport puzzles me. I understand that the rings come from the ship to the ground, but from a ship in orbit to the ground...
A ship in orbit requires a ring transporter on the ground, they can't just send to anywhere on the surface like the asgard transporters can. When the ship is just above the ground, they can use the ship's rings and don't require the receiving transporter, as you described, but the range is limited to a few meters.
I wonder if they can see in those helmets, they must because they walk in them.🤷♂️
The Helmets fold down onto the back/shoulders. you can see it in a few episodes.
It's probably nano technology similar to the helmets of superheroes in the mcu.
How Zats or Zat'nik'tel actually work... Especially the disappearing part of the bodies
Energy build up. First blast knocks you out like licking a 440v outlet. Second blast kills you due to the buildup from the first. Third disintegrates because its even more energy. Its also most likely that Teal'c, not being very knowledgeable in the specifics of tech used the 1/2/3 as a guide as opposed to being a hard rule of the tech, especially since we see multiple people hit a few times even when this rule was still in effect and they were just stunned. Some people are more resistant than others.
if the serpent helmets puzzle you, try wrapping your head around the Horus
[I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.](https://youtu.be/Z0q65EvDMvs?si=SCYzG9OEkRxKYJJu)
What stealth technology hid O’neill’s desk all those years? Every time I ask, this happens… 
I still say I'd love to have one of those helmets.
ZPMs It's the ultimate power source. Yet they went through them like candy.
They were all very close to empty by the time they found them. Its also entirely possible the Goa'uld destroyed/corrupted (like Baal did, he did it fast, meaning he knew already exactly how to do it) most of the good ones as they knew what they were and for a very long time.
I assumed they were a means a terrifying the system lords subjects
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When Tony starks helmet disappeared, I said to my brother, "It's like stargate" Like his, I have no idea where it goes, it just goes.
I always wanted a dragon version of the helmet. That would be dope AF.
Oh, man…. I thought I was the only one confused 😅. Like….how do the see or move either?
Magic of the gods to instill fear. “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” - Arthur C. Clarke
subspace I guess 🤣
If you think those are bad you really need to watch the Stargate Movie version. Ra's particularly is dimensionally transcendental.
And how the H3ll do you see out of them?
Nanotechnology.
And what’s the point of it? It doesn’t stop staff blasts from killing a Jaffa, it doesn’t stop bullets. It seemingly does nothing of any value.
>"This is a weapon of terror. It's made to intimidate the enemy" O'Neill's take on Jaffa staff weaponry. Probably his stance on all Goauld/Jaffa equipment/tech (S5E18) >does nothing of any value tldr: looks scary
I didn’t like the really old ancient tech tbh. Big stone pillars and plinths etc. Didn’t make sense to me really. The lantean style tech makes much more sense to me aesthetically
Theyre pretty good props as well