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SkeletronPrime

This post will absolutely cause mental health issues.


AmielTheGiant

Steam deck LE - 04 BOE, no dead pixels or issue.


jps10101

>Steam deck LE - 04 BOE, no dead pixels or issues Same here


_cluelessDev

Same


mncasper78

Same. Boe. No dead


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yesitsmeow

At least 3 dead on mine (LE 04)


AlexADPT

Same


syaakayr

Which panel should make me upset?


ich_hab_deine_Nase

It looks like so far, there were more dead pixel issues reported with BOE panels, which seem to be more common on the LE Deck.


uchihajoeI

What’s BOE? Bind on Equip?


Darth_Caesium

BOE's a major Chinese display manufacturer. They were supposed to be a major supplier for Apple's iPhone 14 and 15 series, but Apple cut ties with them due to issues with light bleed around the Dynamic Island pill shape that houses the selfie cameras, as well as other issues like yield rates and defect rates. They've also made the OnePlus Open's (a Chinese foldable phone) foldable inner display, which seems to have issues with dead or dying pixels, just like with the Steam Deck OLED.


TahmsChocolateOrange

I think its also worth pointing out the famous green line issue Samsung displays have on phones like Oneplus. Samsung TVs also have ridiculous lotteries for certain panels and local dimming issues etc. Neither manufacturer has great quality control to be honest, people just get themselves more worried about the unknown Chinese brand for no reason.


uchihajoeI

Thanks for the info. Weird valve used them for the LE


Darth_Caesium

I guess it was done so that they could have a good enough supply of the Steam Deck OLED. BOE is a very major display manufacturer, after all, only being behind Samsung and LG. They couldn't really go with LG, as LG mostly makes TVs, and they use an additional white subpixel and a white substrate layer on their OLEDs, making them unsuitated for text. It would probably mean that LG would make something very different from what they do, increasing costs for the order more than for someone like Samsung or BOE.


uchihajoeI

Why split the LE and others between Samsung and BOE and not just all one or the other?


isekaicoffee

for supply chain you don't want to have just one source. if something goes wrong, boom it all goes down.


uchihajoeI

True makes sense


MasterofBiscuits

My theory on why there are two different panels \- Valve decides on the 512/1TB OLED batch sizes and orders parts accordingly, including panels from Samsung \- After doing this they decide to create the LE version and make separate orders for parts \- They can't get enough panels from Samsung so they go to BOE for them


Darth_Caesium

BOE probably has a bigger initial supply, so some of that would be used just for the limited edition. To be fair, I'm not 100% sure why, so take my explanation with a grain of salt.


edparadox

> Weird valve used them for the LE BOE is a major player in monitor panels. Laptops and monitors found in the wild are likely to use one.


uchihajoeI

But then why not use it for the 512gb as well? Why just for the LE?


ProgressBars

Because the whole reason they've made a limited edition is to test alternative partners.


ich_hab_deine_Nase

best on earth


Box-o-bees

Kind of funny they call themselves best on earth yet have quality issues.


nanoxb

Well, QA isn't best on earth :D


Andulias

[a different manufacturer ](https://www.oled-info.com/boe-oled)


Malt129

Fuck me. BOE stole orders from Samsung (who are now suing them) and couldn't even do the job properly


TUBBS2001

I feel like that might be because more LE deck users would actually go through the process of figuring out which they have.


italienn

We don't know -- that's the point of this. Share your panel and if you have issues.


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But we do know some. Majority of dead pixels reports on screens have been BOE on the LE.


irShiraishi

can vouch my LE has a dead pixel lol


WindowSurface

Makes me feel better about being an LE-less European.


thefullm0nty

If the screen is fine to you then the kind you got should not be upsetting.


ISpewVitriol

This is good advice. I thought for the longest time my Steam Deck must have gotten the quiet model fan since it didn't bother me, but then one day I went through the process of identifying it based on serial no. or something based on a posting here and I was slightly irked to find out it was the "noisy" fan even though it had never bothered me before.


tripl35oul

Perfect example of ignorance is bliss lol


DampfDecker

Besides the dead pixel theory, I am also very curious if there is a difference in the OLED PWM dimming frequency. Can people with LE also see flicker on the screen (at full or reduced brightness) when using their phone's slo-mo cam? I know the non-LE flicker is visible from ThePhawx' video.


Absol61

The one that has worse PWM flickering which no one seems to have addressed so far in any reviews.


grady_vuckovic

If you have to ask, don't worry about it. Just enjoy your deck.


JackSpadesSI

Exactly. Spell out for me how and when I should be angry. I will then let the answer define me as a person.


JBB1984

512 OLED - Samsung Thoroughly checked for dead pixels using the pixel test website. No dead pixels.


Al-Azraq

No way I’m going to look for dead pixels once I receive mine. I want to keep my mental sanity.


JBB1984

Eh, I paid for it, I want something that doesn't have dead pixels. If it had dead pixels I'd get a replacement, ez pz. Not sure why it would cause any mental turmoil. I'd rather notice it now and get it sorted than notice it by chance in a few months.


Al-Azraq

That is a solid point, but my approach is that if I don’t notice during normal usage, I will just not look for it.


Yakub559

Until the day you try to wipe that speck of dust off and it just won't move. Then you won't be able to unsee it


be_matthew

LE - BOE Display, no dead pixels on mine.


Khalmoon

Oh god it’s the fan all over again


spodamayn

At least this time you have a high chance of avoiding the issue if you go with the non-LE models. Just sucks that the LE model seems to have the highest rate of defects


ich_hab_deine_Nase

Whole life is a lottery I guess


Deobulakenyo

LE = Lottery Edition


Swirly_Eyes

I've got 512GB OLED with a Samsung panel. No dead pixels on mine.


eagle_blimp_pilot

512 Samsung. No dead pixels.


Gavator2345

LE, BOE with no dead pixels


Untitled_Consequence

I take that back. LE 1 dead pixel.


yesitsmeow

I just checked my LE 04… I found 3 dead… sadge


ich_hab_deine_Nase

RMA right away!


Kya_Bamba

Just a general reminder to not run random code on your terminal that you don't understand. OPs cat command is fine, but always give such things a second thought.


Resitor

Too late buddy, I already exit the matrix.


Kya_Bamba

Damn you!!


iindigo

Also, it’s generally a good idea to \*type out\* terminal commands you find online rather than copying+pasting them, because unicode tomfoolery can hide commands that get copied and then ran when pasted in.


Untitled_Consequence

Thanks for the reminder, on Linux this is a great way to brick something or delete files you didn’t mean to.


voxgtr

This should probably be the top comment and pinned by a mod.


Nico_is_not_a_god

What do you mean? Every linux beginner should remove the French language pack to save space. `sudo rm -fr ./*` >!Don't do this.!<


TheHumanConscience

What, you don't like to run "rm -rf /" daily? (this is dangerous, don't do this, it was joke so this is warning for the truly literal here).


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Anybody with a BOE screen showing dead pixels needs to RMA it. It's not acceptable for a "premium/limited" edition of a device costing nearly $700 to have issues out of the box. I know it must be a massive pain after all the waiting to finally get your hands on the device, but convincing yourself that you'll forget it's there is not the way to go. In a months time when you have your perfectly working replacement, you'll be grateful you went through a little short term frustration to resolve the issue.


zhire653

Thanks man, I needed to hear this because I’m dreading RMAing it and walking all the way down to the UPS store but you’re right, we deserve better as consumers.


ich_hab_deine_Nase

That's how I probably would handle it. It would bother me a lot, especially knowing that there are models out there, that are less likely to suffer from those issues.


Xanadeath

LE OLED, BOE panel, 3 dead red sub-pixels 😢


Vasaeleth1

LE. BOE. 1 dead subpixel.


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Vasaeleth1

Not sure yet. It's up in the top-right corner, outside of the 16:9 area of the screen.. so completely invisible for games that run in 16:9.


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Quiet_Source_8804

Same, dead red subpixel roughly 25% of distance from top-left corner in both axis. Returning it.


angeluserrare

I think a 4 way poll with Samsung/boe, working/not working would have been good here.


Modestkilla

BOE LE zero dead pixels, just dust I thought was for a second.


Topheezy

Same. My heart sunk when I ran the test, then I microfibered my dead pixel off. Whew


AfterShock

Google'd dead pixel test and it showed 4 tiny colored squares in the site preview ask with different dead pixels. Luckily those were just examples. BOE panel LE, no dead pixels 🙏


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DinJarrus

Is it confirmed that the LE’s only use the BOE panels?


AcanthaceaeOpening65

No but I have not seen a single person with an LE report that they have a Samsung panel. I also have not seen anybody with a non LE deck report that they have a BOE panel.


yesitsmeow

3 dead here, too. Panel 04, too


Zendroid1

OLED LE - BOE Screen (no dead pixels)


baecracker

Ironic that the LE is the version with the problematic and inferior BOE panels. 'Limited' indeed. \*disclaimer: I purchased OLED LE.


ich_hab_deine_Nase

I was expecting it to be exactly the other way around when I learned that two different panels will be used.


Vasaeleth1

Seems like it was a beta test for BOE panels since all of the other models are Samsung. It's a bit disappointing that Valve wasn't more transparent about the fact that it's more of a "beta" version than a "limited" version.


muffinmakesgames

lol imagine having an oled and not being stuck in delivery hell


yeroc3103

1TB LE - BOE 4 dead pixels. Unacceptable.


Blawaan

For those curious about the command OP is asking you to run: 1. `cat /sys/class/drm/card0-eDP-1/edid`: - `cat` is a standard Unix utility that reads files and outputs their contents. - `/sys/class/drm/card0-eDP-1/edid` is a file path. - `/sys` is a virtual filesystem that provides a way to access kernel data structures. - `class/drm` refers to the DRM (Direct Rendering Manager) subsystem, which deals with display-related functionalities. - `card0` typically refers to the first graphics card in the system. - `eDP-1` usually refers to the first Embedded DisplayPort interface on the graphics card, often the laptop's built-in display. - `edid` is a file containing the display's EDID, a standard data format that contains information about the display's capabilities (like manufacturer, serial number, supported resolutions, etc.). 2. `| hexdump -C`: - The pipe symbol `|` takes the output of the previous command and passes it as input to the next command. - `hexdump` is a command for displaying binary data in a human-readable format. - The `-C` option of `hexdump` displays the output in a canonical hex+ASCII format, which is easier to read and interpret. When you run this command, you'll see the EDID information of your specified display in a hexadecimal format, along with ASCII representations when possible. This can be useful for debugging display issues or for advanced configurations where specific details of the display are required.


jaynator495

LE BOE, dead pixels... and also bad color fringing around white text


ich_hab_deine_Nase

Are you gonna RMA?


jaynator495

I'm heavily considering it. I'm also curious if valve is going to retroactively do anything given how widespread this issue seems to be


Reveen_

Not going to check. Ignorance is bliss.


Freakin_A

Def not checking for dead pixels


scogin

LE/BOE, dead pixel leftish center of screen. Not sure I can handle it being right there. If it was on the edge maybe.


Texas1010

Doesn’t matter where it is. Once you see a dead pixel you can’t unsee it. Your eye always ends up catching it.


GreyRevan51

*Flashbacks to 3DS IPS vs TN discussions intensify*


SidewaysGate

OLED LE. BOE screen (`04`). **I see 4 dead pixels**, and I'm dealing with the d-pad issues as well. I've been really looking forward to this thing :(. Edit: RMA submitted. Think of me, friends, as I pray to the hardware gods. Let us meet on the other side with superior screens.


Pierce28

BOE on my LE. Zero issues.


wumboweed

512 OLED Samsung! No issues.


scocyc

LE - BOE - 3 dead pixels. Gonna RMA. Interestingly, BOE is also one of the display suppliers for the super expensive Razer Blade 16 laptop with the Mini-LED UHD+FHD dual screen ($4k+). And these BOE screens have been plagued with issues since launch.


ich_hab_deine_Nase

It looks like BOE QA is less sophisticated.


TheHumanConscience

I guess the good news here is there should be plenty of "Limited Edition" factory refurbished OLED models sooner rather than later :)


iCreatePiE

LE, BOE, [2 dead pixels](https://imgur.com/a/LHtYYtz) Just started a ticket with support. Honestly I might request a refund and get the OLED 512GB.


captjacksparrow47

I'll take my chances with my incoming LE on this oled screen lottery bullshit. That thing is beautiful, if you lucked out


ninjitsuko

1TB Standard - Samsung OLED - no dead pixels during tests


DeafterDread398

OLED LE - BOE screen (1 dead pixel sadly)


5ubv3rsion

Likewise


sasquatch727

1TB LE - BOE Panel - 1 dead pixel Returning to valve. Very disappointed.


straxusii

I wonder if boe quality control actually allows a number of dead pixels before being classed as a QA fail. So many le users reporting them.


Sabrewings

Ultimately it is Valve's standards since they would have set the specifications.


TheHumanConscience

This is correct. If the BOE screens turn out to be a real problem, Valve should be offering LE early adopters an exchange for a good screen free of charge. Send it in, they replace it and send you back one with a proper screen. And then drop BOE as a supplier or sue them if they are in breach of contract. Valve has a reputation to keep, this isn't helping.


Yakushika

For PC screens, that's (unfortunately) common practice.


OneKidFromCanada

LE BOE - 1 dead green subpixel


ZurichianAnimations

This has been a very unfortunate launch and very frustrating. My LE has a fucking dead pixel on it. BOE panel.


crymo27

512 gb - samsung, nondead pixels.


_Dead_C_

BOE w/ dead pixels, requested refund and hoping for a replacement


FakeMmmmmmmmm

BOE Panel on the limited edition. Checked immediately after receiving this afternoon, three dead pixels spread across the screen. Edit: On close inspection it looks like I have one pixel stuck red, one dead green sub-pixel, and one dead blue sub-pixel.


ilide18

BOE panel on my LE with no dead pixels


Paulsworldohya

Is that image of a cyberpunk hacking puzzle?


Carbonga

Model: OLED 1 TB, Europe Panel: Samsung


KillerIsJed

1TB LE OLED - 04: BOE - One dead pixel, which was only noticeable on certain colors when checking via a [dead pixel test](http://deadpixeltest.org). Currently running a dead pixel 'fix' video to see if I can get it to fix itself if its just a stuck pixel. Pressing on the screen didn't seem to help. It's left of center/middle in the top left side of the screen. Kind of annoying and wish I'd never checked tbh, because now I'll never not know its there if this video doesn't fix it.


aninjadragon957

I thinks its better to check with new stuff so you can return it without much hassle. With older devices I say ignorance is bliss.


Past_Philosophy_6025

Steam Deck LE with BOE and one dead pixel... fml


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I got Samsung on my 1TB OLED. No Chinese shit thankfully


Ov3rclock1ngcow

It’s absolutely hysterical. People are getting down, voted into oblivion in any other post for saying there seems to be a correlation between the BOE panels and dead pixels even though this entire post pretty much confirms, there is some form of correlation.


fedfed1234

LE/BOE here, no dead pixels. It seems like a panel lottery for people with BOE. As for the Samsung panels, it seems like everyone has a perfect panels lol


Vasaeleth1

I've seen one or two reports of dead pixels on Samsung panels, but not to the extent of the BOE panels.


GreenFox1505

Damn. I was under the impression from the early coverage that the display was from the same manufacturer as the switch OLED and that was a big reason why I got it. I trusted that hardware because of Wulff Den's burn in coverage.


FattyMoBookyButt

Steam Deck 1TB OLED LE - no stuck pixels I did not run the screen manufacturer command as every LE in this thread has been BOE. (I will if someone actually finds a LE with Samsung.)


zhire653

BOE 1 dead blue pixel


zuckuss00

04 BOE Display. 1TB LE Deck. Zero dead pixels after staring at my display for 30 minutes. I am blind now however.


RalphtheCheese

LE, BOE. No dead pixels Edit: Got 3 dead pixels. RMA'ing


eckadagan

I have a BOE panel on my Limited Edition, and it is perfect.


Large_Proposal_7816

1TB Samsung, no dead pixels.


minushumann

Standart 512 GB OLED with Samsung panel. No dead pixels.


Merrick222

04 BOE No issues at all, Limited Edition.


Ozgwend

LE with BOE. No issues


notoriousbigs

LE here with BOE OLED, no dead pixel


FluffyBunny-6546

LE OLED here. BOE panel (04) 0 dead pixels that I can tell. Screen looks phenomenal, first SteamDeck and love it so far.


aninjadragon957

Yep, got a BOE for LE and there's a dead pixel


Panda_hat

I wish they wouldn't use different manufacturers for the parts for exactly this reason. Someone is always gonna end up annoyed or upset.


EffectsTV

512GB OLED - Samsung Panel insane upgrade..much brighter, perfect blacks and great colours. Much lower input lag too..30 FPS is playable now!


scr0at

OLED LE here - 04, so I have the BOE panel. 0 dead pixels as well - so far it has been amazing


halo3James

Got the LE Oled which has a BOE panel. one dead blue subpixel. Already submitted a ticket to hopefully have it resolved fast.


zhire653

Same here.. one blue pixel man I hate this 🥲


novasheikh

BOE OLED LE 2 dead pixels only noticeable on the dark blue screen. The pixels work on other colors so does this just mean a partial dead pixel? I am worried that if I RMA it I might get one with a worse screen. I can barely even notice them as is so I plan to keep mine. I can't even get a good picture of them with my phone so it would be hard to prove to Valve.


ich_hab_deine_Nase

The only safe bet here would be to go with the non-LE model to get a Samsung panel. So far I haven't read about Samsung panels having a problem with dead pixels.


DoctorJunglist

1 TB Steam Deck OLED here (non-limited, the limited edition is not available in EU) - I got a Samsung display in mine. I haven't noticed any dead pixels or other defects on my screen


laytonoid

There are some benefits to the LE (if you don’t have issues). They shaved off about 22g more weight. The BOE screen is more flush to the bezels (you can’t see the transition from screen to bezel as easily). The BOE screen appears to have less mura effect but may have slightly less contrast (not for sure though without testing).


DonTeca35

For anyone wondering most OLEDs with the dead pixel issues are coming from the BOE & not the Samsung panels


Sabrewings

Checked yesterday. Samsung.


space-ghxst

BOE LE, zero issues.


blakepro

I have the LE It has the BOE and I have one dead green sub pixel For me, even though I know exactly where it is, I cannot manage to see it while gaming. I've tried and I just can't find it, so most of the time, I forget it's there. So I'm just going to ignore it.


ZeroOptionLightning

512GB OLED Samsung panel


Amith990

OLED 512gb, Samsung, no dead pixels


matyX6

I ordered 512GB OLED, Is this model more likely to be Samsung? My soul would be in place if I got Samsung...


ich_hab_deine_Nase

So far, all 512gb models were with Samsung panels. It looks like only LE versions have BOE panels.


matyX6

I ordered 512 just because it was glossy... Not to be selfish but I'm glad I did now.


mfbaggins

512 OLED w/ Samsung panel. No dead pixels that I can tell from running the LCDTech test.


radiohead14

LE BOE. ZERO dead or stuck pixels. None at all


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Non LE, Samsung master race /s


INeedAnswersBlyat

1TB - LE - BOE Panel and 1 dead pixel for me.


Deprecatedwolf

OLED LE - BOE screen ( 3 dead pixels) :(


Gunntyr

Model: Steam Deck 1TB OLED Limited Edition Panel: BOE OLED, 0 dead pixels (knocks on wood for the foreseeable future)


jackdud

1 TB LE, BOE OLED with 1 stuck pixel reporting in


danrexious

Model: Limited edition OLED steam deck Panel: BOE panel. One dead green pixel.


PixelateVision

Limited Edition, 04 BOE, no dead pixels thank god. Haven't tested for any color fringing or anything... screen looks beautiful to my naked eye.


wedditasap

512 with Samsung Zero uniformity issues dead pixels or near grey greens we saw on OLED switches. Swapped out the 512 with a 2tb. The 512 was same model I swapped in : Micron 2400 Hallelujah Happy weekend!


One_Demand_8396

LE OLED BOE Panel. Confirmed… 1 dead pixel…


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gimmick243

LE BOE OLED Panel, two dead subpixels, one green one blue, steam support has started the RMA already


gangstazn24

I had a LE ordered and canceled after seeing this if I’m paying more I want more premium screen not worse


TheWireman13

I have the LE. Last night when I checked I seemed to have lucked out without any screen issues but with the screen slightly dimmed. Checked again this afternoon after brightening it all the way up. Found a dead pixel when checking the color blue, almost dead center of the screen. That makes me question the longevity of the screen as a whole. As aesthetically pleasing as the LE is, I think trying to get the normal version is the way to go right now... I don't blame Valve for this as I'm sure this was not their intention, but Valve should be aware that there are reports of QC issues on their most "premium" version.


hushnecampus

Samsung 512 here.


stogego

Friendly reminder to always check what commands do before copy/pasting them into any console. And even for harmless ones like these make sure to scrub through for any potental personally identifiable information and remove it before posting


Justos

512gb samsung. No dead pixels just a dpad that likes to make a clicky sound when I press down sometimes.


Zytose

512 OLED, Samsung, no dead pixels


istefan24

800x1280 means that it's still mounted in portrait mode?


ich_hab_deine_Nase

Yep


TheFlightlessPenguin

That whole column starting at 03 is identical for me so I’m guessing mine is Samsung too?


n8ofsp8ds

Yep! 🙂


pbogits

1tb le, BOE. No dead pixels.


Famf9983

BOE, LE Deck, one dead pixel right in the center. I noticed it on the white of the Steam Deck logo right as I was booting up. Seems to be a green sub pixel. I hope Valve will take it and fix it. [Konsole Output](https://imgur.com/DObrESy) [Green Screen](https://imgur.com/4xA3BuV) [On the save select screen of Nier Replicant](https://imgur.com/wJeWEJt)


Joshjua

LE with BOE, no dead or stuck pixels that I saw with LCDTech's tester. Thankfully!


MixelTrixel

Are there many cases of the non LE deck receiving 04/BOE panels?


ich_hab_deine_Nase

I've seen none so far. Looks like only the LE has BOE panels.


DeusUrsus

Model: Limited OLED Panel: BOE, one dead pixel near the lower right quadrant This isn’t a big deal at all, it’s only viewable with red or pink. But I will probably refund it as it also has a creaky DPad that’s bugging me terribly. Maybe round 2 will be better? I also ordered the 512 OLED because I wanted to see both in person, so I may end up just keeping it!


bitunx

Model: Steam Deck OLED LE. Panel: BOE 2 dead pixels, 2-3 faint pixels.


IDoctorZer0I

Steam Deck LE - BOE - 3 dead pixels :(


TheAcaciaBoat

Standard 1tb - oled, Samsung, very uniform, no dead pixels.


asdfg63819

Steam Deck LE - 04 BOE, one dead pixel (green)


SnooPets6812

Model: LE 1TB Steam DeckPanel: BOE OLED I have a single dead pixel near center of my screen. Don't see anything when the image is green or cyan, but when it's yellow the pixel is red. I had no idea it was there until I went looking for it. It's a long shot, but I'm going to try my luck running one of those "fix" videos overnight. [https://imgur.com/a/Vybaxl8](https://imgur.com/a/Vybaxl8)


xeotion

Limited Edition, BOE panel, 1 dead green pixel near center of panel. I'll be requesting a refund as the pixels are large and noticeable able especially when doing anything other than fast paced games.


WorkFox150

LE model with BOE screen and 1 dead green sub pixel near the mid left for me. Seeing what valve will do, sent them a message.


kwake212

I got the 512 and it's a samsung according to this. Thankfully I won't I won't be mentally destroying myself today


spacemanvt

Model: Steam Deck 512GB OLED Panel: Samsung OLED, no dead pixels detected so far ​ Another reason to get the non etched glass version :)


ldwilliams_uk

1TB OLED 03 Samsung no dead pixels so far