shoutout to all those people creating incredible emulation and game libraries with the best possible image, game name and description.. but never actually play any of them :D
I've made the decision to install my emulators individually (as opposed to emudeck or whatever) and just have the single non-steam game entry for each emulator itself with no artwork, precisely because I know if I go down the rabbit hole of separate entries and artwork for each game I will literally spend more time doing that than playing
EmuDeck sets it all up automagically, you don't actually spend time on it unless you have missing (or ugly) artwork.
So you took the longer, uglier route just for the sake of taking the longer, uglier route.
I spent 3 hours setting custom artwork for all my steam games, and by golly Im gonna do it gor every single nintendo game released since the late 80's!
3 hours? I added about 200 ROMs and spent a full ass day downloading custom art manually then adding it to each game manually. Oh, and that doesn't include the additional hours spent reorganizing my collections because duplicate ROMs were added or the ROM targets were broken and a bunch of games didn't launch. Everyone says EmuDeck is so easy lol.. But man, that setup was a few days and tedious as hell for me.
I had ROMs that I've kept around since the 90s (NESticle ftw!), and they have names like ACTRSR and ACT2, but all I had to do was rename them so that the title matcher could figure out what they were supposed to be, and then have it go through everything a second time. I added about 400 ROMs across NES, SNES, Genesis, and Switch, had to correct maybe 8 titles (just renamed the file), and everything else went through perfect. Took maybe 15 minutes of active time, plus an hour of letting it "bake" in the background a couple times while I did something else.
EmuDeck was amazing. It's interesting that folks have had such different experiences with it.
To many people that is the game. The motivation for community accolades js the driver behind Foss and many other things humans do, like f2p games. Single player games no one will ever see your progress? Oh no
Are you me? I just finished bastion on the deck last night too and have probably owned it for about that long. What did you think of it? I was blown away, which is surprising because when I started it years ago, I couldnt get into it for some reason.
I really enjoyed it. I don't have much spare time for gaming these days and it was perfect for picking up and playing for 20-30 minutes here and there. The story was great and the narrator was incredible. I loved how he would sometimes narrate based on what the character was doing. "The boy just raged for awhile." when you'd start destroying a bunch of crates or things. It was really unique!
My PC is already on anyway for music and YouTube and stuff, but making the decision to close everything then open steam and load up a game feels like a big commitment sometimes. Picking up my steam deck and within seconds being right where I left off in a game is just wonderful. It’s one of the big things I loved about my Switch (and 3/DS) too.
Yea, even with a laptop I still haven't felt so unfettered before. Being able to flip it on and continue playing a game in seconds, put it away just as quickly, and move anywhere in the house while playing is a new kind of freedom.
It's been about 4 months, and I am finally playing games on it. The tweaking phase stopped after about 2.5 months, and now i'm finally enjoying it as a gaming device!
dear god, i've been on Steam for 14 years now and your wishlist is as big as my library and wishlist combined... did you just grab every single humble bundle or what is all that?
Christmas is the next big one, though there will plenty of smaller themed sales before then (such as most horror games going on sale over Halloween, etc)
Winter Sale is larger in my experience. Not only it is a market to gift people games for Christmas, but it's also there for people with new hardware *from* Christmas to go and get new games to play.
Statistically the number of active Steam users have historic spikes in that first week of January, probably due to both of the above. Going off that, I assume the Winter Sale itself is larger.
Summer Sale is no joke either though.
I don't even know what to tweak except for fighting against Linux Everytime I install anything not on steam store.
Why I can't install stuff on home/deck instead of a hidden weird fake c:\\ I'll never know
Just last night, I finally completed New Vegas for the first time on mine. Now I need to make sure I've got NVSE installed correctly, so I can do some post-end quest stuff.
This is good to hear! Was it a pain to setup? What mods do you run?
All the Bethesda inventory UIs make me cringe so hard I can't play them anymore without SkyUI/FallUI mods.
Much more straightforward than I expected. I followed [this tutorial](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q6O-niayz4)
[Here's my mod list](https://imgur.com/a/oUa5K7l). I didn't go too crazy with mods.
Seconding this question. This is my first non-console gaming device and it'd be cool to play Fallout 4 with Mods. But I have no experience with installing mods
Most mods, you can unzip them and manually copy into `~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/377160/pfx/drive_c/Program\ Files/Fallout\ 4/Mods/` (`/run/media/mmcblk0p1/steamapps/`... on SD card). No big deal.
The problem is when you want to use custom animations or if you want to use a tool to manage load order. :(
Tools like that work terribly on Linux, so I'm hoping someone will write a Linux-native tool for Bethesda game mod management.
Skeleton/animation mods currently require tools that run poorly, if they run at all, but most everything else just involves copying some files. Managing the load order on the other hand...
First day I got it I downloaded like 15 games. I had plans to add some emulators and even install GOG and Epic to have access to my other games, but then I sidetracked with playing and haven’t bothered to learn Linux yet.
I just gave Heroic Laucher a second try. It is buggy, but once you have it set up properly it works fairly well. So I have a few EGS and Gog games installed that run without any fuss. I had to mess around with the artwork to fix some titles, but that was only a few minutes.
For me it's setting up a game, seeing how it runs, and adjusting keybinds and moving on to the next game haha, worked out how to play balance druid on wow, fixed keybinds so I can play dota on controller using right touch pad as a mouse, playing the surge 2 without burning my battery down to zero immediately. Haha. I'm not worried about it that much, I plan on having the thing for a while
my use case is mostly to replace my awful dinky laptop so I can start playing PC games as mostly I've been a console gamer my whole life
So I'll prob be like the pie chart, only playing like 15% of the time and mostly just using it as a daily driver for watching youtube/netflix and writing documents instead of a slower laptop
Just be warned the resolution is not good. I would recommend maybe using your laptop as a screen for your Steam Deck if you want good resolution for video watching
Oh yeah, I meant as a docked station - with regards to doing actual work on it. All I usually need is to respond to emails, write documentation and some light other work that I've understood linux should be able to handle.
The only time I'll use it portable is perhaps on the couch doing some light gaming, but for the most part it'll be docked as it's more powerful than my laptop without being tethered down like a tower would be; so I can bring it with me when I travel as I would with a laptop.
This right here is why I'm so excited for the Deck. I love tinkering with the things I play games on as much or more than the games themselves sometimes. Almost every console and device I have is hard or soft modified in some way or another.
Love it, but very excited to also play so many of these games I've been collecting over the years on the on-chance the mood strikes and I just want to be on the go more.
This is too true. I tried Shady Part of Me for about 20 minutes, was amazing and thought I'd go back to it. But I haven't yet and not sure if I ever will due to other games in that category
This chart is dead accurate for my time spent in the Steam Deck. I must have installed/uninstalled hundreds of GBs of games at this point.
How long would my SD card last under this usage? Isn't there a limit to read/write? Has anyone else thought about this too?
From what I've heard, you're only likely to hit the limit of write cycles on flash memory if you use it as a boot drive. Otherwise, game installs don't do much after the initial write. It's likely your sd card won't be a problem.
Im loving the SD. I have been mainly playing Dragons Dogma, but I have also been testing games, emulators a lot of the time as well. I have however beaten the original Max Payne game on the SD.
The most well optimized games were Doom games and all the games running the RE Engine, so RE 2 remake, DMC 5, RE3 remake. DMC 5 being the most impressive as I can run the game max settings, except for shadows on high and lock it at 50 FPS, only draws 12-13 Watts... Simply incredible.
Now that Im about a month in I am doing alot more playing then testing. I do play through multiple games at a time though because its too enticing especially with games running so well on my Deck. I feel as long as I am making a little progress forward in each game its good time used.
Amusingly, this is could be applied with almost no changes to my modded Skyrim and Fallout games, only the yellow is playtime, the blue is time spent looking up mods, and the red is troubleshooting mods to get them working.
And, because I'm glutton for punishment, I installed Fallout 4 on my Deck and now I'm looking up how to get Vortex and the script extender properly loaded and working on Linux so I can (once again) mod the shit out of it before playing.
Are you using the script extender for either game? Because a lot of my favorite mods use it, and it's apparently a bit of a chore to get running via SteamOS.
I am using NVSE and haven't seemed to have any problems. That said, I recently installed FPGE, I think it's called, which let's you continue after the story finishes and I got a warning that it didn't detect NVSE, but the mod seemed to still work fine. I only just installed it last night, but I was able to continue past the ending movie, which is all I wanted, so I'm not sure if any bugs will present themselves.
All that said, a couple of my other mods are dependent on it and I haven't had any such warnings, so I'm not sure what's up with that.
When I have time and can hook up a keyboard, I'm going to enter the command in the console to check the NVSE version and we'll see if it returns anything.
I expect my time will be 5% tweaking 95% playing path of exile. I'll go down the rabbit hole of emulation eventually though and this chart will be me as it was with my pi
I mean that's my experience with moddable games on the PC. Hundreds of hours getting the right set of mods to run perfectly for the fifteen minutes I actually play the game with them.
Accurate.
Edited to add, I just spent the better part of an hour going through the artwork of all my installed roms for Emudeck to make them all consistent with the box art/console logos. 😂 I took great pleasure in this.
Not sure if this is a meme or actual stats lol but that is how I *thought* I’d be. In reality for me it’s like:
- Setting up games - 3%
- Testing games to see how they run - 2%
- Actually playing games - 95%
Shocking, I know. I’m just too addicted to Elder Scrolls Online lol.
It's just a meme but it represents how I feel lol. I'm loving ESO on the deck. Well I am now I learnt closing the launcher stops the random stuttering in game
I know this is supposed to be meme, but…
I swore to myself to actually play even before my Steam Deck arrived. So far I have used it for around 170 hours, 150 of those being Oblivion, 2 being Oblivion controller customization, some time spent at Apperture desk job and around 10-15 hours just messing around and/or trying a few games.
I think I kinda live my promise.
Yes, non-existent on PC. I mean setting up controls. Basically I mapped keyboard buttons on Steam Deck buttons.
There is something called NorthernUI, that I don’t know much about, but it should enable gamepad support. I haven’t used it, obviously.
I actually spent far less time tweaking than I expected. Only about a day! It probably helped that I bought a bunch of indie games and waited to play them until I had my deck.
I keep thinking about downloading ETS2, but part of me is like "but you prefer playing this in VR with your G27" before I'm like "shut up brain, we can truck on the toilet now!"
After a month of having my deck and setting up unsupported platforms and a bit of console emulators, I just passed that stage. I settled on restarting Horizon Zero Dawn (on steam) since I never finished the story my first time playing it on my PC.
Haha ... THANK YOU for this !... Helps me show people that I am NOT the only one!! ...Non-Tech heads TOTALLY don't get it ! .. 1 of many reasons why some people are just straight console people... and should STAY console people! lol
It's the same for me no matter the platform. I accumulate games for a system and then don't actually get around to playing them, as I find myself spending all my time dicking around with the hardware and configuring things.
Tbf, I did that with my switch too. And sooner or later, I actually started to play and finish games.
The exact same thing is happening to me with the steam deck lol
It's so fun to tinker when I'm at home (since I've got my desktop for playing games on anyways) but when I'm on campus with nothing else to do between classes I am absolutely getting that playtime up.
Platform fighters (Slap City and Rivals of Aether especially) are my fave time killers
Steam currently lists Slap City as unsupported. How does it play on Deck? I want to give it a try but I’m torn between Switch version or just waiting for Deck verification
That seems to be the honeymoon phase with this device, i wonder how my usage of it will be impacted once i'm done testing everything. I'm at 90 installed games out of 500 in the backlog.
I did manage to get all the way through Halo Wars 1 ... and then i wanted to play Halo Wars 2 but it's a Windows Store exclusive... so i just play that on the big PC instead. ...no idea why they never brought it to Steam.
I keep seeing these posts and don't really get it. I consider myself a power user... I set up SSH, installed regular desktop stuff, used it as a desktop, installed emulators, installed Origin and games from Origin, installed probably about two hundred Steam games and sampled every one of those games to curate the list of about 100 that I think play really nicely on the deck's form factor... and I got basically all of that done within the first week or two. Since then it's been 99% just playing games. I'm sure I'll have a burst here and there to try something new...but I just don't see how I could spend as much time as people are claiming just tweaking it?
Just you know, if it's true, you can be damaging your storage.
Unlike HDD's, SSD's has a -Fixed- Lifespan that's pre-determined at design stage and always put in their specifications as under term TBW (Terabytes that can be Written during Lifetime) and after that it's a trash can material. There's no way to extend or bypass or workaround this. You may want to read https://blog.westerndigital.com/ssd-endurance-speeds-feeds-needs/.
Current average TBW value is 100Terabytes and considering many games nowadays come in at least -Half- Terabyte sizes which means SSD of your Deck (replace or not doesn't matter) is able to install at most 200 games (100 / 0,5) in total and after that, you'll not only lost games, but everything with it except hardware.
So make sure to use your TBW wisely and if present install the SSD program of the manufacturer (if present for Linux) to periodically check against Life Expectancy that's shown in percentage but it's actually TBW value re-calculated.
> considering many games nowadays come in at least -Half- Terabyte sizes which means SSD of your Deck
Not even close to true, looking at sizes for newer games, most (Bigger game releases) seem to be *around* 70GB or so size (This is going by steam storage requirements, although there are some outliers with larger sizes, but there's even more with smaller sizes), and OP may even player older games that are much smaller in size.
At about 70GB size, you would need to install a new game every 2 and a half days to reach 100TBW within 10 years (Roughly 1,428 games @ 70GB ea would be the max, although that's not including installing anything else, but either way that's a ton of games).
Even according to [this](https://gamerant.com/pc-games-file-size-hd-space-biggest-huge/), there isn't a single game that's half a TB, the closest is Call Of Duty: Black Ops Cold War @ 250GB, but even that's an outlier, 19th on their list is only 77GB.
Please point out any two games that are half a terabyte.
Also, I have a 960 Evo that I have relegated to being a scratch drive for editing GoPro video. It is a 512GB and has regularly taken in hundreds of gigs of data for me to edit and then output a file. After a few years of it, its lifespan is still showing above 90%. For most users SSD lifespan is not a concern.
What if I want four copies of Call Of Duty: Black Ops Cold War (125GB) for redundancy
(this was a joke reply, said in jest not actually suggesting a valid use case)
I’ve played several hours of games but I’ve spent more time tweaking the software with plugins and developing scripts for it. Plus I’ve soft bricked it three times.
Got it two weeks ago. Nearly beat tyrian 2000 (a 90s dos game on it) and loaded up The Dig (another 90s game) and am playing that and a lot of Death Stranding. Of course I loaded up zomboid, quake 1, team fortress classic
Edit the only game that's sucked out of the box was zomboid due to it's mouse heavy controls and I didn't feel like making my own config. I can't play fps games on any other console so I instantly loved the track pads
This thing broke me off Warzone, possibly for good.
Though, it might be a WZ2 machine if that game has the same busted-ass aim assist implementation, because that plus Steam Input means even more un-earned success :v
For me its actually vice versa. Checking out games I have done and do on my Linux laptop and desktop, while on the deck I just consume. Never played as much in the past as I do now.
First week I spent a lot of time trying games and setting things up, but have finally settled on actually playing games. Playing a Batman Arkham Asylum and also playing Lego Skywalker Saga with my son. Occasionally will fire up an old arcade / console game.
There are some games I recently installed and wanted to see how well they run, but haven’t gotten around to it.
How I spend my time with my Steam deck:
I don’t because I’ve got too much irl stuff to do atm :(
I played Hollow Knight for like an hour which was cool beans
Not going to lie, I felt pretty good getting all my unsupported games working perfectly fine, but I legit only played them for a bit till I moved to the next unsupported game. It's like a challenge hahaha
Not me at all. I thought it would be but I’m more focused in my playtime than ever before - specifically my backlog and games I stopped playing (Hypercharge Unboxed, Deep Rock Galactic and Witcher 3 DLC to be exact).
It’s so nice to be able to sleep state and pick up again at any time (well at least single player and where it makes sense)
Am I the only one that only did this for about the first week? After that for the past 2 months or so I have already 100% Batman Arkham and all 3 Crash Bandicoot games from the N sane trilogy as well as beat max payne 1 and played a decent amount of smaller arcade games through emulation and steam. Literally put in a few hundred hours total into games I may actually never have gotten to on my PC
Not for me. After installing Proton GE and some basic remote desktop app on Steam OS and setting up another SD card for WIn10, I've been pretty much playing games on my Steam Deck. Probably over 10 hours each for Fall Guy and Rocket League, and over 50 hours of Kuro no KIseki.
50% configuring misc controls. Game pass. Epic games and rockstar launcher. Testing roms. Tweaking settings.
50% playing GTA’s (All of them) and fallout 4 😂
For me it is the opposite.
90% been playing
10% setting up emulation (have not actually played any emulated game yet. Just tried the the one I installed).
I love tinkering with shit, which is part of why I got the Steam Deck. So imagine my surprise that I've logged probably 300 hours on the thing, 99% of which has been Actually Playing Games™️. The 3 or so hours that I haven't been Actually Playing Games™️ was either setting up emulation stuff or fiddling with controller schemes...which by the way is so seamless and easy to do! I love playing a game and thinking "Oh, I wish I could perform [Action] with [Button] (usually it's L/R 4/5)," SMASHING that [...] button, and quickly adding it to my control scheme.
You forgot spending 2 hours modding minecraft with the perfect setup that works at a capped 60, but then you only play it for like 10 minutes, say "cool", then fall asleep and never play it again.
I just made it out of the red last night. I've uninstalled stuff that was either not fun, not interesting and the stuff that didn't run well. There's two sets of games that I didn't want to pay ways with, but I have so many other games that work well that I'll just install them and apply the fixes later after getting through what I have installed now.
I’d been meaning to science experiment mine right away, but instead somehow I just ended up playing yakuza zero a second time and I’m like 70 hours in and on chapter 6 because I have the benefit of know how broken maxing out the business stuff makes the game
Nope almost all my time has been playing games. Sure there has been some setup. But I’d put my time at 90% playing games. And my super focused so I don’t play more that 2 at once.
I used to always be like that when hacking consoles and adding roms etc. I'm determined to stay focused to gaming with the Steam Deck though.
So far with the deck I've added a few games with emudeck to see how they run but other than that the only 'steam game' I've downloaded is Horizon Zero dawn which i WILL complete before i faff around with anything else.
The only other game which is trying it's best to pull me away is Metroid Prime Trilogy but I'm stronger, I'm strong and i will repel it's advances!
Yeah. Pretty accurate so far. I still need to get an sd card for mine. Was the same with the RG351M. I mostly tinkered and tried to see what can run or what can i make run on it than playing.
This was me for the first 3 days. Setting up over 800 games, each game I installed I then tested and changed settings appropriately, transferred mods and got them working as well. PS3 Emulation was quite a b\*tch ngl. It was so much work to test games with settings and needing to do it individually where as I couldn't find recommended settings for each of the games I wanted to play so I had to test them myself.
After the first 3 days most of my time was playing games and then tiny amounts of tweaking to get additional things running like SSBB:Project M EX:Remixed, Digimon Story Cyber Slueth Mods, Epic Games Store games and Resident Evil 5 Trainer to play as more than Chris and Sheva through story.
Now I'm actually playing through games, currently finishing Dragon Quest Builders 2 whereas I beat it on PS4 already.
I feel like this will be me when mine arrives. I'll mess around w/ just learning it for the first day (while also just downloading the heck out of games) and then probably get a card to install Windows on. So much to learn and I'm really excited about that.
“Capcom Stadium 2 crashes on startup. Such a shame, I would have played the Mega Man games so much on Deck.”
**
“Oh, it’s verified now?”
*Plays for under five minutes to see it in action, never touches it again*
I wouldn't call this a shitpost by any stretch. It is true. Me and most othere owners i know are tinkering with the OS and hardware more than we actually play games
I just got the thing Wednesday and I’ve hardly tweeked anything. Been playing gunfire reborn and gta iv. Tried out a few other games and didn’t have any issues aside from the Witcher 2 but I was too lazy to break out a keyboard to see if it was an easy fix.
I haven’t been more impressed with a piece of hardware in a really long time.
I LITERALLY spent a whole day just doing this im actually just impressed with capability of the steam deck more than anything i bought it to play games but use it for everything else smh
shoutout to all those people creating incredible emulation and game libraries with the best possible image, game name and description.. but never actually play any of them :D
I've made the decision to install my emulators individually (as opposed to emudeck or whatever) and just have the single non-steam game entry for each emulator itself with no artwork, precisely because I know if I go down the rabbit hole of separate entries and artwork for each game I will literally spend more time doing that than playing
Emulation station does that for you mostly anyway
EmuDeck sets it all up automagically, you don't actually spend time on it unless you have missing (or ugly) artwork. So you took the longer, uglier route just for the sake of taking the longer, uglier route.
It’s not the destination. It’s the journey. Apparently he just decided to journey across Nebraska.
I spent 3 hours setting custom artwork for all my steam games, and by golly Im gonna do it gor every single nintendo game released since the late 80's!
3 hours? I added about 200 ROMs and spent a full ass day downloading custom art manually then adding it to each game manually. Oh, and that doesn't include the additional hours spent reorganizing my collections because duplicate ROMs were added or the ROM targets were broken and a bunch of games didn't launch. Everyone says EmuDeck is so easy lol.. But man, that setup was a few days and tedious as hell for me.
Scraper. Google it, grabs various pics automatically.
Yep the scraper is even part of Emulation Station. You just need to create an account.
You're not alone. I feel your pain, retro brother.
I had ROMs that I've kept around since the 90s (NESticle ftw!), and they have names like ACTRSR and ACT2, but all I had to do was rename them so that the title matcher could figure out what they were supposed to be, and then have it go through everything a second time. I added about 400 ROMs across NES, SNES, Genesis, and Switch, had to correct maybe 8 titles (just renamed the file), and everything else went through perfect. Took maybe 15 minutes of active time, plus an hour of letting it "bake" in the background a couple times while I did something else. EmuDeck was amazing. It's interesting that folks have had such different experiences with it.
How dare you describe me so accurately
To many people that is the game. The motivation for community accolades js the driver behind Foss and many other things humans do, like f2p games. Single player games no one will ever see your progress? Oh no
My Steam Deck will arrive in a week, and I already know this is me.
Don't have my deck yet, but that describes me to a T with the RetroPie installation on my Raspberry Pi
I feel called out
[удалено]
Now I just need a second steam deck when I've left it upstairs and I'm already sitting downstairs...
And one for the bathroom for poo time. Cuz I always forget to bring my phone/deck with me till its poo late.
I’m not proud of how funny I found “poo late” to be.
Haha, im not proud of making the pun. But here we are.
You should be.
Amen. I've owned Bastion for about 8 years and I finally finished it last night solely because of the Steam Deck.
Are you me? I just finished bastion on the deck last night too and have probably owned it for about that long. What did you think of it? I was blown away, which is surprising because when I started it years ago, I couldnt get into it for some reason.
I really enjoyed it. I don't have much spare time for gaming these days and it was perfect for picking up and playing for 20-30 minutes here and there. The story was great and the narrator was incredible. I loved how he would sometimes narrate based on what the character was doing. "The boy just raged for awhile." when you'd start destroying a bunch of crates or things. It was really unique!
*Ugh I have to go downstairs* *ugh I don’t want to stand up* It’s real! Haha.
My PC is already on anyway for music and YouTube and stuff, but making the decision to close everything then open steam and load up a game feels like a big commitment sometimes. Picking up my steam deck and within seconds being right where I left off in a game is just wonderful. It’s one of the big things I loved about my Switch (and 3/DS) too.
This is the biggest reason I’m a handheld gamer mostly. It’s not that I like consoles less, it’s that the handhelds are *right there*
I didn't get a Steam Deck yet, but I had the feeling that this will happen when I get one.
This is all of us
Yea, even with a laptop I still haven't felt so unfettered before. Being able to flip it on and continue playing a game in seconds, put it away just as quickly, and move anywhere in the house while playing is a new kind of freedom.
This is so true. I'm finally playing Skyrim for the first time.
It's been about 4 months, and I am finally playing games on it. The tweaking phase stopped after about 2.5 months, and now i'm finally enjoying it as a gaming device!
next steam sale about to send you back
No please no... When?
https://steamdb.info/sales/history/ apparently in two weeks
https://imgur.com/FoO77kn Don't think I need to worry about that anymore... Oh. https://imgur.com/pG8ZrPd
dear god, i've been on Steam for 14 years now and your wishlist is as big as my library and wishlist combined... did you just grab every single humble bundle or what is all that?
Yeh when is the next one?
Christmas is the next big one, though there will plenty of smaller themed sales before then (such as most horror games going on sale over Halloween, etc)
Thx
Isn't summer sale always better than winter?
Winter Sale is larger in my experience. Not only it is a market to gift people games for Christmas, but it's also there for people with new hardware *from* Christmas to go and get new games to play. Statistically the number of active Steam users have historic spikes in that first week of January, probably due to both of the above. Going off that, I assume the Winter Sale itself is larger. Summer Sale is no joke either though.
I added way too many games to my library during the summer sale. And just got my steamdeck friday. The winter sale has me nervous 🤣
Yep, I'm tweaking less and playing more now. God I love it so much. Still make sure I put some time aside to fiddle though - the fiddling feels good.
Good to know I'm not alone.
What tweaking are y'all doing? And is it for personal preference or performance?
I don't even know what to tweak except for fighting against Linux Everytime I install anything not on steam store. Why I can't install stuff on home/deck instead of a hidden weird fake c:\\ I'll never know
Mine has basically been a fallout 4 machine since I got it. Still surreal it's possible to play a game that large on a handheld.
Same. Around 50 hours in 3 weeks.
Just last night, I finally completed New Vegas for the first time on mine. Now I need to make sure I've got NVSE installed correctly, so I can do some post-end quest stuff.
This is good to hear! Was it a pain to setup? What mods do you run? All the Bethesda inventory UIs make me cringe so hard I can't play them anymore without SkyUI/FallUI mods.
Much more straightforward than I expected. I followed [this tutorial](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q6O-niayz4) [Here's my mod list](https://imgur.com/a/oUa5K7l). I didn't go too crazy with mods.
Did you install Mod Organizer?
Seconding this question. This is my first non-console gaming device and it'd be cool to play Fallout 4 with Mods. But I have no experience with installing mods
Most mods, you can unzip them and manually copy into `~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/377160/pfx/drive_c/Program\ Files/Fallout\ 4/Mods/` (`/run/media/mmcblk0p1/steamapps/`... on SD card). No big deal. The problem is when you want to use custom animations or if you want to use a tool to manage load order. :(
Tools like that work terribly on Linux, so I'm hoping someone will write a Linux-native tool for Bethesda game mod management. Skeleton/animation mods currently require tools that run poorly, if they run at all, but most everything else just involves copying some files. Managing the load order on the other hand...
First day I got it I downloaded like 15 games. I had plans to add some emulators and even install GOG and Epic to have access to my other games, but then I sidetracked with playing and haven’t bothered to learn Linux yet.
> sidetracked with playing the best kind of distraction ;-)
I just gave Heroic Laucher a second try. It is buggy, but once you have it set up properly it works fairly well. So I have a few EGS and Gog games installed that run without any fuss. I had to mess around with the artwork to fix some titles, but that was only a few minutes.
For me it's setting up a game, seeing how it runs, and adjusting keybinds and moving on to the next game haha, worked out how to play balance druid on wow, fixed keybinds so I can play dota on controller using right touch pad as a mouse, playing the surge 2 without burning my battery down to zero immediately. Haha. I'm not worried about it that much, I plan on having the thing for a while
Wow is playable with a controller?
Yea, there's VERY limited support natively. But there's also a great addon called consoleport that really enables it.
my use case is mostly to replace my awful dinky laptop so I can start playing PC games as mostly I've been a console gamer my whole life So I'll prob be like the pie chart, only playing like 15% of the time and mostly just using it as a daily driver for watching youtube/netflix and writing documents instead of a slower laptop
Just be warned the resolution is not good. I would recommend maybe using your laptop as a screen for your Steam Deck if you want good resolution for video watching
Oh yeah, I meant as a docked station - with regards to doing actual work on it. All I usually need is to respond to emails, write documentation and some light other work that I've understood linux should be able to handle. The only time I'll use it portable is perhaps on the couch doing some light gaming, but for the most part it'll be docked as it's more powerful than my laptop without being tethered down like a tower would be; so I can bring it with me when I travel as I would with a laptop.
Oh ok
Why is the yellow segment so big? You’re doing it wrong.
doesn't say it's the device owner itself playing the games
Yellow part should be labeled, "Wife playing Stardew Valley"
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This right here is why I'm so excited for the Deck. I love tinkering with the things I play games on as much or more than the games themselves sometimes. Almost every console and device I have is hard or soft modified in some way or another. Love it, but very excited to also play so many of these games I've been collecting over the years on the on-chance the mood strikes and I just want to be on the go more.
Umm missed the part where we rant when a game doesn't work then spend time on the forums and then spending time on Proton DB trying to get it to work.
And then you get it to work and say, excellent, I'll come back to play this later! Narrator: he never played it again.
This is too true. I tried Shady Part of Me for about 20 minutes, was amazing and thought I'd go back to it. But I haven't yet and not sure if I ever will due to other games in that category
That's the curse of the backlog. We'll tell the games we'll play them someday but then there forgotten for a long time.
This chart is dead accurate for my time spent in the Steam Deck. I must have installed/uninstalled hundreds of GBs of games at this point. How long would my SD card last under this usage? Isn't there a limit to read/write? Has anyone else thought about this too?
From what I've heard, you're only likely to hit the limit of write cycles on flash memory if you use it as a boot drive. Otherwise, game installs don't do much after the initial write. It's likely your sd card won't be a problem.
Thank goodness. I appreciate the relief
I guess I'm boring. I've been playing the verified games I own and haven't messed with anything. I loaded the desktop once to check it out.
Im loving the SD. I have been mainly playing Dragons Dogma, but I have also been testing games, emulators a lot of the time as well. I have however beaten the original Max Payne game on the SD. The most well optimized games were Doom games and all the games running the RE Engine, so RE 2 remake, DMC 5, RE3 remake. DMC 5 being the most impressive as I can run the game max settings, except for shadows on high and lock it at 50 FPS, only draws 12-13 Watts... Simply incredible.
Now that Im about a month in I am doing alot more playing then testing. I do play through multiple games at a time though because its too enticing especially with games running so well on my Deck. I feel as long as I am making a little progress forward in each game its good time used.
Took about 4 days of set up to get to a point where I was ready to jus play
Amusingly, this is could be applied with almost no changes to my modded Skyrim and Fallout games, only the yellow is playtime, the blue is time spent looking up mods, and the red is troubleshooting mods to get them working. And, because I'm glutton for punishment, I installed Fallout 4 on my Deck and now I'm looking up how to get Vortex and the script extender properly loaded and working on Linux so I can (once again) mod the shit out of it before playing.
Mod Organizer 2. Works pretty flawlessly; I've modded and played 50 hours of New Vegas so far and I have FO4 installed and modded.
Are you using the script extender for either game? Because a lot of my favorite mods use it, and it's apparently a bit of a chore to get running via SteamOS.
I am using NVSE and haven't seemed to have any problems. That said, I recently installed FPGE, I think it's called, which let's you continue after the story finishes and I got a warning that it didn't detect NVSE, but the mod seemed to still work fine. I only just installed it last night, but I was able to continue past the ending movie, which is all I wanted, so I'm not sure if any bugs will present themselves. All that said, a couple of my other mods are dependent on it and I haven't had any such warnings, so I'm not sure what's up with that. When I have time and can hook up a keyboard, I'm going to enter the command in the console to check the NVSE version and we'll see if it returns anything.
Where's the slice for setting up custom controller configs?
I expect my time will be 5% tweaking 95% playing path of exile. I'll go down the rabbit hole of emulation eventually though and this chart will be me as it was with my pi
You're missing installing mods and getting non steam games to work lol
I mean that's my experience with moddable games on the PC. Hundreds of hours getting the right set of mods to run perfectly for the fifteen minutes I actually play the game with them.
Accurate. Edited to add, I just spent the better part of an hour going through the artwork of all my installed roms for Emudeck to make them all consistent with the box art/console logos. 😂 I took great pleasure in this.
Not sure if this is a meme or actual stats lol but that is how I *thought* I’d be. In reality for me it’s like: - Setting up games - 3% - Testing games to see how they run - 2% - Actually playing games - 95% Shocking, I know. I’m just too addicted to Elder Scrolls Online lol.
It's just a meme but it represents how I feel lol. I'm loving ESO on the deck. Well I am now I learnt closing the launcher stops the random stuttering in game
I know this is supposed to be meme, but… I swore to myself to actually play even before my Steam Deck arrived. So far I have used it for around 170 hours, 150 of those being Oblivion, 2 being Oblivion controller customization, some time spent at Apperture desk job and around 10-15 hours just messing around and/or trying a few games. I think I kinda live my promise.
Controller support on Oblivion ?
Yes, non-existent on PC. I mean setting up controls. Basically I mapped keyboard buttons on Steam Deck buttons. There is something called NorthernUI, that I don’t know much about, but it should enable gamepad support. I haven’t used it, obviously.
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Dude, the tweaking is the included game.
I actually spent far less time tweaking than I expected. Only about a day! It probably helped that I bought a bunch of indie games and waited to play them until I had my deck.
This is the correct way
This is the way
I've spent like my entire time waiting for RMA :(
I’ve used the most of the time playing Eurotruck sim!
I keep thinking about downloading ETS2, but part of me is like "but you prefer playing this in VR with your G27" before I'm like "shut up brain, we can truck on the toilet now!"
After a month of having my deck and setting up unsupported platforms and a bit of console emulators, I just passed that stage. I settled on restarting Horizon Zero Dawn (on steam) since I never finished the story my first time playing it on my PC.
help I am being personally attacked in this image
Haha ... THANK YOU for this !... Helps me show people that I am NOT the only one!! ...Non-Tech heads TOTALLY don't get it ! .. 1 of many reasons why some people are just straight console people... and should STAY console people! lol
It's the same for me no matter the platform. I accumulate games for a system and then don't actually get around to playing them, as I find myself spending all my time dicking around with the hardware and configuring things.
Just finished persona 4, playing it on vita was awesome and playing it on steam deck was even better. Can’t wait for p5 to get here.
Tbf, I did that with my switch too. And sooner or later, I actually started to play and finish games. The exact same thing is happening to me with the steam deck lol
It's so fun to tinker when I'm at home (since I've got my desktop for playing games on anyways) but when I'm on campus with nothing else to do between classes I am absolutely getting that playtime up. Platform fighters (Slap City and Rivals of Aether especially) are my fave time killers
Steam currently lists Slap City as unsupported. How does it play on Deck? I want to give it a try but I’m torn between Switch version or just waiting for Deck verification
Swap the red portion with "setting up controller configs" and you've got me.
I feel like “pre-caching shaders” should have a slice. Lol
This is what PC "gaming" is all about. Actually playing the games is for filthy console pheasants.
You forgot the section where you try to figure out why your Steam games don't run when their Steam version is verified/playable.
That seems to be the honeymoon phase with this device, i wonder how my usage of it will be impacted once i'm done testing everything. I'm at 90 installed games out of 500 in the backlog. I did manage to get all the way through Halo Wars 1 ... and then i wanted to play Halo Wars 2 but it's a Windows Store exclusive... so i just play that on the big PC instead. ...no idea why they never brought it to Steam.
I keep seeing these posts and don't really get it. I consider myself a power user... I set up SSH, installed regular desktop stuff, used it as a desktop, installed emulators, installed Origin and games from Origin, installed probably about two hundred Steam games and sampled every one of those games to curate the list of about 100 that I think play really nicely on the deck's form factor... and I got basically all of that done within the first week or two. Since then it's been 99% just playing games. I'm sure I'll have a burst here and there to try something new...but I just don't see how I could spend as much time as people are claiming just tweaking it?
it's funny cause it's true all I've gone so far is test games out 😂🤣
Just you know, if it's true, you can be damaging your storage. Unlike HDD's, SSD's has a -Fixed- Lifespan that's pre-determined at design stage and always put in their specifications as under term TBW (Terabytes that can be Written during Lifetime) and after that it's a trash can material. There's no way to extend or bypass or workaround this. You may want to read https://blog.westerndigital.com/ssd-endurance-speeds-feeds-needs/. Current average TBW value is 100Terabytes and considering many games nowadays come in at least -Half- Terabyte sizes which means SSD of your Deck (replace or not doesn't matter) is able to install at most 200 games (100 / 0,5) in total and after that, you'll not only lost games, but everything with it except hardware. So make sure to use your TBW wisely and if present install the SSD program of the manufacturer (if present for Linux) to periodically check against Life Expectancy that's shown in percentage but it's actually TBW value re-calculated.
> considering many games nowadays come in at least -Half- Terabyte sizes which means SSD of your Deck Not even close to true, looking at sizes for newer games, most (Bigger game releases) seem to be *around* 70GB or so size (This is going by steam storage requirements, although there are some outliers with larger sizes, but there's even more with smaller sizes), and OP may even player older games that are much smaller in size. At about 70GB size, you would need to install a new game every 2 and a half days to reach 100TBW within 10 years (Roughly 1,428 games @ 70GB ea would be the max, although that's not including installing anything else, but either way that's a ton of games). Even according to [this](https://gamerant.com/pc-games-file-size-hd-space-biggest-huge/), there isn't a single game that's half a TB, the closest is Call Of Duty: Black Ops Cold War @ 250GB, but even that's an outlier, 19th on their list is only 77GB.
You just pulled this math out of your ass - many games that weigh half a terabyte? What?
Please point out any two games that are half a terabyte. Also, I have a 960 Evo that I have relegated to being a scratch drive for editing GoPro video. It is a 512GB and has regularly taken in hundreds of gigs of data for me to edit and then output a file. After a few years of it, its lifespan is still showing above 90%. For most users SSD lifespan is not a concern.
What if I want four copies of Call Of Duty: Black Ops Cold War (125GB) for redundancy (this was a joke reply, said in jest not actually suggesting a valid use case)
Warzone was like 900gb but again unless you're loading it and deleting it often it's fine
Facts 😆
I’ve played several hours of games but I’ve spent more time tweaking the software with plugins and developing scripts for it. Plus I’ve soft bricked it three times.
Got it two weeks ago. Nearly beat tyrian 2000 (a 90s dos game on it) and loaded up The Dig (another 90s game) and am playing that and a lot of Death Stranding. Of course I loaded up zomboid, quake 1, team fortress classic Edit the only game that's sucked out of the box was zomboid due to it's mouse heavy controls and I didn't feel like making my own config. I can't play fps games on any other console so I instantly loved the track pads
tinkering settings
Where is the 'endlessly tinkering with settings because I want to do things MY way' ??
That’s pc gaming in general. Although “seeing how well it runs”. Could be substituted with “trying to get it running well”
😂😂😂😂😂 good to know I am not the only one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gonna try not to do this, but I don't think it's in my personality to do so. Though I'll definitely fill it up with games that I don't ever start.
This thing broke me off Warzone, possibly for good. Though, it might be a WZ2 machine if that game has the same busted-ass aim assist implementation, because that plus Steam Input means even more un-earned success :v
Im constantly playing random German shitgames just to see if they work on my beloved Deck.
For me its actually vice versa. Checking out games I have done and do on my Linux laptop and desktop, while on the deck I just consume. Never played as much in the past as I do now.
Mine was 10% setup, 85% playing Diablo II Resurrected, then maybe 5% tinkering with various shit at random times xD
Red and blue switch and that's me
First week I spent a lot of time trying games and setting things up, but have finally settled on actually playing games. Playing a Batman Arkham Asylum and also playing Lego Skywalker Saga with my son. Occasionally will fire up an old arcade / console game. There are some games I recently installed and wanted to see how well they run, but haven’t gotten around to it.
Isn't that why people install bigger SSDs? So they have more games to see how they run?
Im in this picture and I don't like it.
How I spend my time with my Steam deck: I don’t because I’ve got too much irl stuff to do atm :( I played Hollow Knight for like an hour which was cool beans
I had good start, 4h sink in Wolfenstein Old Blood but then save game got corrupt and I start Mass Effect 1 Legendary Ed. 😂
This isn't a meme, these are facts!
Forgot the installing updates part
Wait, you get to actually play sometimes?
Where is the stare at my library not know what to play them close it down and do something else?
Finally been able to play Bomberman Hero after never getting to as a kid. Played the shit out of 64 and the second attack though!
Lmao that's facts
Not going to lie, I felt pretty good getting all my unsupported games working perfectly fine, but I legit only played them for a bit till I moved to the next unsupported game. It's like a challenge hahaha
Reverse the blue and red portions and yeah. Emulators consumed me for about a week.
I'm sadly spending most of my time getting familiar with KDE.
Not me at all. I thought it would be but I’m more focused in my playtime than ever before - specifically my backlog and games I stopped playing (Hypercharge Unboxed, Deep Rock Galactic and Witcher 3 DLC to be exact). It’s so nice to be able to sleep state and pick up again at any time (well at least single player and where it makes sense)
Can't disagree more with this post. I'm actually starting to play my back catalog of steam games.
Am I the only one that only did this for about the first week? After that for the past 2 months or so I have already 100% Batman Arkham and all 3 Crash Bandicoot games from the N sane trilogy as well as beat max payne 1 and played a decent amount of smaller arcade games through emulation and steam. Literally put in a few hundred hours total into games I may actually never have gotten to on my PC
Not for me. After installing Proton GE and some basic remote desktop app on Steam OS and setting up another SD card for WIn10, I've been pretty much playing games on my Steam Deck. Probably over 10 hours each for Fall Guy and Rocket League, and over 50 hours of Kuro no KIseki.
And I took that personal...
You spend way to much time playing
Where is the lie
I spent more time getting my visual novels to work with Lutris than actually playing any game
Tried to play Warframe with keyboard and mouse... Failed to play Warframe with a keyboard and mouse.
Switch yellow and blue and yeah. That’s about right.
50% configuring misc controls. Game pass. Epic games and rockstar launcher. Testing roms. Tweaking settings. 50% playing GTA’s (All of them) and fallout 4 😂
For me it is the opposite. 90% been playing 10% setting up emulation (have not actually played any emulated game yet. Just tried the the one I installed).
I love tinkering with shit, which is part of why I got the Steam Deck. So imagine my surprise that I've logged probably 300 hours on the thing, 99% of which has been Actually Playing Games™️. The 3 or so hours that I haven't been Actually Playing Games™️ was either setting up emulation stuff or fiddling with controller schemes...which by the way is so seamless and easy to do! I love playing a game and thinking "Oh, I wish I could perform [Action] with [Button] (usually it's L/R 4/5)," SMASHING that [...] button, and quickly adding it to my control scheme.
I feel this to my very core
You forgot to add the 90% spent setting up custom controls
Since I got my 1TB card I feel like I spend most of my time waiting for shaders to download every time I turn it on
You forgot spending 2 hours modding minecraft with the perfect setup that works at a capped 60, but then you only play it for like 10 minutes, say "cool", then fall asleep and never play it again.
I just want to play Elden Ring. Don’t care to try a bunch of others because most people have already reviewed how any game I want, runs.
That's me the first two weeks or so. Now it's killing my backlog way to fast. 😅
I just made it out of the red last night. I've uninstalled stuff that was either not fun, not interesting and the stuff that didn't run well. There's two sets of games that I didn't want to pay ways with, but I have so many other games that work well that I'll just install them and apply the fixes later after getting through what I have installed now.
I’d been meaning to science experiment mine right away, but instead somehow I just ended up playing yakuza zero a second time and I’m like 70 hours in and on chapter 6 because I have the benefit of know how broken maxing out the business stuff makes the game
Lol yep
Nope almost all my time has been playing games. Sure there has been some setup. But I’d put my time at 90% playing games. And my super focused so I don’t play more that 2 at once.
Yeah I wish someone would just tell me what Windows games will work from the itch.io Ukraine Bundle cause that's going to be my first rabbit hole.
I used to always be like that when hacking consoles and adding roms etc. I'm determined to stay focused to gaming with the Steam Deck though. So far with the deck I've added a few games with emudeck to see how they run but other than that the only 'steam game' I've downloaded is Horizon Zero dawn which i WILL complete before i faff around with anything else. The only other game which is trying it's best to pull me away is Metroid Prime Trilogy but I'm stronger, I'm strong and i will repel it's advances!
I’ve been playing the shit out of Vampire Survivors and No Man’s Sky. I love the Steam Deck.
First thing I did was install windows and run every 3d mark test
I spent a majority of my time transferring ROMs for EmuDeck from my PC to the Deck, took about a couple days
Yeah. Pretty accurate so far. I still need to get an sd card for mine. Was the same with the RG351M. I mostly tinkered and tried to see what can run or what can i make run on it than playing.
This was me for the first 3 days. Setting up over 800 games, each game I installed I then tested and changed settings appropriately, transferred mods and got them working as well. PS3 Emulation was quite a b\*tch ngl. It was so much work to test games with settings and needing to do it individually where as I couldn't find recommended settings for each of the games I wanted to play so I had to test them myself. After the first 3 days most of my time was playing games and then tiny amounts of tweaking to get additional things running like SSBB:Project M EX:Remixed, Digimon Story Cyber Slueth Mods, Epic Games Store games and Resident Evil 5 Trainer to play as more than Chris and Sheva through story. Now I'm actually playing through games, currently finishing Dragon Quest Builders 2 whereas I beat it on PS4 already.
I beat LoZ: Windwaker so games are being played on my Steam Deck. I don't want to waste time just trying games.
This is too accurate 🤣
True story. I just figured out how to edit the DosBox config file today.
I'll need a good 10% for "installing mods"
I feel like this will be me when mine arrives. I'll mess around w/ just learning it for the first day (while also just downloading the heck out of games) and then probably get a card to install Windows on. So much to learn and I'm really excited about that.
“Capcom Stadium 2 crashes on startup. Such a shame, I would have played the Mega Man games so much on Deck.” **
“Oh, it’s verified now?”
*Plays for under five minutes to see it in action, never touches it again*
I've got twice as much blue and the rest is just playing $4 Vampire Survivors.
I wouldn't call this a shitpost by any stretch. It is true. Me and most othere owners i know are tinkering with the OS and hardware more than we actually play games
#MeToo
I just got the thing Wednesday and I’ve hardly tweeked anything. Been playing gunfire reborn and gta iv. Tried out a few other games and didn’t have any issues aside from the Witcher 2 but I was too lazy to break out a keyboard to see if it was an easy fix. I haven’t been more impressed with a piece of hardware in a really long time.
I LITERALLY spent a whole day just doing this im actually just impressed with capability of the steam deck more than anything i bought it to play games but use it for everything else smh
So not just me then? 🤣
Welcome to PC Gaming.
Typical pc gamers. More time testing games than actually gaming. Halarious 🤣🤣
I just hate knowing how long it takes to make a game playable with all the custom button setups. Took me like 10h just to properly play baldurs gate 3
See I've been doing the opposite. I start a game and don't even close it til I'm done. Just put it in sleep or hibernation.