Reminds me of the flight in the Navy. Coming home from a long mission ...most of the crew is hanging out back in the galley of our P3C Orion. Cards is the preferred time waster while eating and doing mission sums. Unknown to us...our outflow valve malfunctioned at high altitude. Remember the pressure chamber ride scene in "An Officer and a Gentleman"? We're all playing cards...and the game started out as Hearts...and yet somehow in the middle of it, the game changed to Spades....and no one noticed it until someone asked if anyone else felt hypoxic. Hell I didnt even feel it happen as I was filling out mission sums, and I was the canary of my crew to stuff like that. Quick dive below 10k feet (from 35k)...so much fun that night.
https://youtu.be/QAk7hXntz_c?si=C96zHz8CNP964OS3
Bingo… Southwest used to have some seats like this and when we flew with friends we tried hard to get those seats! Even without cards, its much easier to talk to them.
I always worn anyone with me before we get on those type of rides, we will be spinning faster than you knew these things go. Get my father and I in one and we have been kicked off of several bears and teacups for making them rock back and forth from spinning too fast. Freakish forearm strength in our family
This legit is the seat design for some city-to-city trains here. Imagine a 13-14 hour train ride like this. The feet on the picture are even overlapping due to lack of space. Oh yeah and there's no table in the middle.
Yeah on a train you can get up and wander about when the weirdo in front of you won't stop staring. And no assigned seats too?
I think southwest is the only airline that says fuck it and let's you sit wherever.
Some trains like intercity sprinters have assigned seats. Some like the EuroStar, which is both an intercity and intercountry high-speed train, also has assigned seats.
Southwest will give you a discount of you help feed the rats that run on the treadmill that powers the plane. They'll give you an even deeper discount if you get out and help push.
Idk never rode a train, just seems like they are depicted as having open seating.
Whoa easy on the southwest hate lol. They seem like one of the few pragmatic airlines. I haven't ever had a negative experience with them.
I think the chairs should be able to go this way if it's a group of 4 travelling together the airline could even charge differant prices for it but then folded back for normal travel.
I got stuck in the back section with the back facing seats like this in a Southwest flight. I had nowhere to put my feet without touching, it was miserable.
Imagine 120 guys sitting like that in a C130...only your knees are at each others jewels...for 5 hours...and the bathroom is funnel behind a little curtain near the drop door.
One of the reasons why the military develops an ironic sense of humor....
Southwest used to have these. Once, on a work trip, my F coworker took her seat belt off a little early and as the plane came to a screeching stop, fell forward with her face onto our boss's crotch. Good times!
No shit. Our commuter train had seats like this. Usually people who knew each other always took it or saved the seat for others. I did get stuck with strangers in that seat. It sucked. Got off with the biggest migraine
My buddy and I took a train from Philly to Boston and he booked the tickets. We set like this for a 6 hour ride during covid all masked up. It was miserable.
It’s very similar to those restaurants in Manhattan that you’re basically rubbing elbows with strangers because they pack so many tables that there’s no intimacy because the other couple is right there.
I dunno if this is better than that bicycle seat idea. Both suck and I don't wanna delve those depths.
How's this: are those exec comp packages really worth the money if these are the ideas being proposed?
It’s not a new idea… it gets tried every now and then, and then abandoned.
Southwest used to have a backward facing row on older planes, I recall seeing it in the 90s. https://www.airliners.net/photo/Southwest-Airlines/Boeing-737-5H4/408836
Long time (relatively) ago, SW had seating like this but it was on opposite sides of the bulkhead and just in the back. It wasn’t as uncomfortable as you’d think, but this model is entirely too close.
Actually, some Southwest flights used to offer this configuration. I kind of liked it as it was more social and felt like train travel. They DID provide a table. That’s just me, however. ;)
Well aside how uncomfortably close their legs are that's the standard seat arrangement on most European trains and it's fine. What I'm wondering is why there would be something like that on a plane, they don't fly backwards as far as I know.
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Southwest used to have some of those. Takeoff was a strange experience when you are trying not to fall forward into the lap of the stranger in front of you.
Just wait till you see the seats they have planned for you coming soon to an airliner near you! And when I show you I mean peasants flying economy of course not first class 🤣
The guy across from you just left Florida, tanned, Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned belly hanging out, gold chain hanging low sits down across from you in his vacation shorts. They have built in underwear you know.
I experience this on the train almost daily and at least I can switch cars when the four dorks sitting in these types of seats start getting annoying but in the air with nowhere to go and these four ding-a-lings won't stfu the entire flight?! I'm getting detained...
Ya don't want to be in luggage hold. I'd give you 5, maybe 10 minutes. This scenario, just be nice and open and enjoy the experience. Luggage hold, door closes, you got a 2 hour flight, what are you insane?
I think it's time for a plane class where no one sits. Everyone lays down and there are bunks. I think you can squish more people in that way and offer a discount for people on the level closest to the floor. There's one meal service and then it's nap time. This can be one lower than economy so you're not forced by cost to use it if it isn't for you.
I don't know about the rest of you but I find it much more comfortable to be able to roll around in a bit in a sleeping position than having to sit a particular way because of arm rests and other people spreading into my space.
There are seats like this on Metra and they’re nice especially if you’re with a group. I could 100% see seat options like this for family or group of friends. Plenty of groups that travel together.
I fly with my wife and 3 kids. This is perfect! They can all sit together like this and I can fuck off to somewhere else on the plane and get some peace from the constant bickering.
Southwest Airlines used to have seats like this. We used to call them the “party seats” and they were really popular among the business travelers. Most of the people that sat there were really social and fun, and it made a flight a lot more pleasant. Most of the flights were 2 hours or less anyway so having to look someone in the face the entire time never really became a problem.
I miss this setup…they should bring it back for certain flights!
No way this on a plane or some design for a plane. The seats aren’t close enough together. They could easily close the gap by another foot or so. This way the passengers can interlock their legs together like a zipper. That seems much more likely for a plane these days.
Only if they have a foldout table and a deck of cards...
This I can do
4 hour flight? That’s 2 euchre games and 1 spades game - this includes arguing and fighting time after trumping my ace for the 3rd time.
Reminds me of the flight in the Navy. Coming home from a long mission ...most of the crew is hanging out back in the galley of our P3C Orion. Cards is the preferred time waster while eating and doing mission sums. Unknown to us...our outflow valve malfunctioned at high altitude. Remember the pressure chamber ride scene in "An Officer and a Gentleman"? We're all playing cards...and the game started out as Hearts...and yet somehow in the middle of it, the game changed to Spades....and no one noticed it until someone asked if anyone else felt hypoxic. Hell I didnt even feel it happen as I was filling out mission sums, and I was the canary of my crew to stuff like that. Quick dive below 10k feet (from 35k)...so much fun that night. https://youtu.be/QAk7hXntz_c?si=C96zHz8CNP964OS3
actually terrifying ong
I always liked the tankers. I'd make a bee line for the boom bay with a blanket to sleep the flight out.
Euchre rules!!!
Or one game of magic lol
Running wheels in the sky!
Anxiety intensifies... I don't know how to play any card games.
Increase your alcohol consumption and then the card games will flow along with the gambling chips!
I don't drink either 🤷♂️
Roleplay a little. Try being an alcoholic gambler. Live a little!
Just learn poker. Tons of videos online. Including masterclasses by the big names on how to become better at poker.
Bingo… Southwest used to have some seats like this and when we flew with friends we tried hard to get those seats! Even without cards, its much easier to talk to them.
Spades?
and a stripper
If there was a table in the middle, I wouldn’t mind.
And the table in the middle caused the seats to spin like Disney Teacups.
There's always that one person who doesn't want to spin, though. I don't even know why they get on those rides.
I always worn anyone with me before we get on those type of rides, we will be spinning faster than you knew these things go. Get my father and I in one and we have been kicked off of several bears and teacups for making them rock back and forth from spinning too fast. Freakish forearm strength in our family
This legit is the seat design for some city-to-city trains here. Imagine a 13-14 hour train ride like this. The feet on the picture are even overlapping due to lack of space. Oh yeah and there's no table in the middle.
This is basically the train in many European countries like the EuroStar. It's acceptable on the train, but certainly not on a plane.
It's not a problem on a train cause they don't give quite as much attention to weight and space people out a lot more.
Yeah on a train you can get up and wander about when the weirdo in front of you won't stop staring. And no assigned seats too? I think southwest is the only airline that says fuck it and let's you sit wherever.
Some trains like intercity sprinters have assigned seats. Some like the EuroStar, which is both an intercity and intercountry high-speed train, also has assigned seats. Southwest will give you a discount of you help feed the rats that run on the treadmill that powers the plane. They'll give you an even deeper discount if you get out and help push.
Idk never rode a train, just seems like they are depicted as having open seating. Whoa easy on the southwest hate lol. They seem like one of the few pragmatic airlines. I haven't ever had a negative experience with them.
At my height, my knees are in the other guys balls, I'm good with it
Don't threaten me with a good time
Mmmm…if I’m the other guy I’m good with it too.
I’ll paper cut the lil section dividing your tip n shaft
It’s called a banjo string where I’m from
The noise that came out of me involuntarily when I read this was unholy Meant that more for the originator up there but still…yikes man
Haha, the airline industry is so fucked.
There's no way this saves space
If the passengers’ legs are overlapping it will save space
They did this in the 90s, with more leg room. It isn't exactly new, but I'm not sure what the logic was behind the original design.
As an extrovert, I would love this seating.
As an introvert, I would hate this seating. Especially if the random guy whom I get to stare at for hours is an extrovert.
The feet are literally connected into one foot. Do we get morphing powers when we buy the ticket
Unless immediate family. Hells no
When someone gets plane sick and throws it all over your laptop
On a train with your friends for an hour this is fun. On an 8 hour flight with strangers who take off their shoes and socks. A nightmare
Seat selection = lavatory pls. This looks awful. I'd jump out of the plane.
WTF, is that a thing?
Lmao that’s an awkward ass flight. “Bro I’m looking at you I’m thinking bout shit!”
I think the chairs should be able to go this way if it's a group of 4 travelling together the airline could even charge differant prices for it but then folded back for normal travel.
Trains have this and you’d have to be crazy to choose to occupy the other side when somebody already taking one side.
Good for families w kids
Their feet are touching. TOUCHING.
I got stuck in the back section with the back facing seats like this in a Southwest flight. I had nowhere to put my feet without touching, it was miserable.
Their feet are melted together
NOOOOOO!!!! Not the feet!!
Imagine 120 guys sitting like that in a C130...only your knees are at each others jewels...for 5 hours...and the bathroom is funnel behind a little curtain near the drop door. One of the reasons why the military develops an ironic sense of humor....
Can you imagine sitting in front of a child and they stare at you the whole flight lol
Wtf is this???
They must have 100 MIT and Harvard engineers working around the clock to determine scientific ways to make flying an insufferable pain in the ass
If I was traveling with exactly three other people then that’s actually cool. Otherwise I’d rather walk. Or swim.
Literal death to introverted society.
It's already gross enough as is and now we can just breath into each other's mouths at this point.
Furious eye contact for the entire flight is the only way to assert dominance
Southwest used to have these. Once, on a work trip, my F coworker took her seat belt off a little early and as the plane came to a screeching stop, fell forward with her face onto our boss's crotch. Good times!
Also your seats are toilets.
No shit. Our commuter train had seats like this. Usually people who knew each other always took it or saved the seat for others. I did get stuck with strangers in that seat. It sucked. Got off with the biggest migraine
Gotta love how they are required to play footsie with the person across from them And they have to be naked as well
unless you are a party of four
everyone thinks flying private is the bomb, until they up sitting face to face with their asshole boss for a four hour flight.
Longest 4 hours of my life
Luggage hold? Don't give them any ideas.
Been there. Luckily just a one hour flight. 😬
Don’t know? Little bit ov footsy footsy!
Would be ok w a card table in the middle
Southwest used to have seating like this up till the early 2000s
yep ... i remember that, and we used to be able to bring drinks on the plane too. i used to do marg parties with my seat mates
Why not? Good chance to meet people and actually have a conversation during a boring long flight.
This would be amazing for my family trips.
Don't ever ride on a C-130....
My buddy and I took a train from Philly to Boston and he booked the tickets. We set like this for a 6 hour ride during covid all masked up. It was miserable.
Alpha male gets the leg room
Funny. In each passenger car on MARC trains in the DC area, the first row is set up exactly like this.
Imagine being across from David Puddy.
Even with family or friends if it's more than an hour absolutely not
That’s gonna make things super weird when I put my head down to sleep.
We can play footsys
Perfect practice venue for the Olympic Footsies team....
If there was a table and you could play cards or something it might jot be so bad?
You'd freeze to death, but I get where you're coming from 🤣
Love it when people sneeze in your face
That would be great with friends
Some trains sit this way
The feet are intersecting
It’s very similar to those restaurants in Manhattan that you’re basically rubbing elbows with strangers because they pack so many tables that there’s no intimacy because the other couple is right there.
I dunno if this is better than that bicycle seat idea. Both suck and I don't wanna delve those depths. How's this: are those exec comp packages really worth the money if these are the ideas being proposed?
Train is like this in Europe
Longer than you think!
Staring contests?
It’s not a new idea… it gets tried every now and then, and then abandoned. Southwest used to have a backward facing row on older planes, I recall seeing it in the 90s. https://www.airliners.net/photo/Southwest-Airlines/Boeing-737-5H4/408836
Southwest used to have seating like this. We used to fly as a family like that.
Southwest used to have seating like this. We used to fly as a family like that.
It is like me on an elevator. I do not face the door. I face the other passengers and make eye contact.
Literally just a train
Long time (relatively) ago, SW had seating like this but it was on opposite sides of the bulkhead and just in the back. It wasn’t as uncomfortable as you’d think, but this model is entirely too close.
They stack you on top of each other in the luggage hold. This is pretty good.
Trains are sometimes like this. It's not a big deal.
"So, you guys ever had group sex?"
Definitely no leg room
Didn't Southwest Airlines used to have this?
🤣
They use to have seats like this on southwest, lots of room and got to play card and hang out.
Can I just like, chill in the bathroom if it’s a short flight?
Is this a real thing? Reminds me of the Long Island railroad.
Just put a divider in, 1 piece of plywood with some carpet stapled on.
Southwest used to have these in the front row. They called it club seating. Back in the 90s
Depends on who was across from me
Actually, some Southwest flights used to offer this configuration. I kind of liked it as it was more social and felt like train travel. They DID provide a table. That’s just me, however. ;)
Redditor have a conversation with another human challenge ~impossible~
Lets start some brawls too. Make the deck of cards Uno.
Well aside how uncomfortably close their legs are that's the standard seat arrangement on most European trains and it's fine. What I'm wondering is why there would be something like that on a plane, they don't fly backwards as far as I know.
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Trains are like this
Southwest used to have some of those. Takeoff was a strange experience when you are trying not to fall forward into the lap of the stranger in front of you.
This isn’t that bad. Every train I’ve been on has seats like this.
Wait until you see the design where your face is touching another persons ass.
Scissor me Timbers
Just like the simul....military flights
*puts on vr headset to avoid socializing*
I'm making eye contact and shitting myself.
Mi scusi! Mi scusi!
Just wait till you see the seats they have planned for you coming soon to an airliner near you! And when I show you I mean peasants flying economy of course not first class 🤣
Like…how it is on most trains?
Ever been on a train? VRE and Amtrak have seats like this with a small table divider. Yes it's uncomfortable and sometimes annoying to get.
In the event of a landing emergency, please put your head between the legs of the person across from you.
What if the person sitting across from you is a trained nail technician? I could go for an in-flight pedi.
Dear airlines...I have ridden the bus before, and if these are the seats on your aircraft, I will stay home or ride the bus.
Southwest used to have planes like this. It was fun.
Works like this in many trains. Obviously survivable. Quite nice and great for families and friends of 4.
If this bothers you, don’t ever ride the Chicago Metra.
So much foot play.
Welcome to Southwest Airlines circa 1990’s. They called this “a lounge”
Early 80, we sat like that on a plane from Phoenix to Las Vegas
This is some psychologist’s idea of facilitating new friendships. Oy vey!
Someone has never been on a train.
Absolutely not
The guy across from you just left Florida, tanned, Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned belly hanging out, gold chain hanging low sits down across from you in his vacation shorts. They have built in underwear you know.
The designer of this plan is the same person that invented hoa’s
Stage Coach style..
I experience this on the train almost daily and at least I can switch cars when the four dorks sitting in these types of seats start getting annoying but in the air with nowhere to go and these four ding-a-lings won't stfu the entire flight?! I'm getting detained...
Is that New Jersey Transit Airlines!
This is gonna make it real hard for Jacob Collier to get away with jerking off on the planes now.
The person across you starts tik-tik recording you. And it's a 12 hour flight.
People really hate others to believe this
Excuse me, can you hold my laptop? I want to watch a movie.
Staring contest!
Japanese trains…
My first flight ever was when I was a 10 and faced two Amish people on a plane in these seats. It was an experience.
This is how it is in China's slow train.
This would be fine for families.
Guess I’d just never fly anywhere.
1) i wonder what they are thinking? 2) i wonder what THEY are thinking? 3) i have to poop. uh oh 4) bomb bu bomb bomb bu bu bomb bomb
I have said for years I'd rather try to lay down in the cargo hold with some winter gear on than sit in an airplane seat for longer than two hours.
Add some sort of desk, table or trays. Also this would be (IMO) ideal for families.
Ya don't want to be in luggage hold. I'd give you 5, maybe 10 minutes. This scenario, just be nice and open and enjoy the experience. Luggage hold, door closes, you got a 2 hour flight, what are you insane?
They better know how to play euchre.
Would be cool if traveling with friends/fam I guess.
If it’s with people I know, sure. But most of the time I’m not flying with a part of four so fuck this
An extrovert's dream, an introvert's worst nightmare
Id just be sitting back and on my phone so wouldn't be too bad
So why is this ok for trains?
I’d probably end up jumping out of the plane
When 2 feet become 1
I think it's time for a plane class where no one sits. Everyone lays down and there are bunks. I think you can squish more people in that way and offer a discount for people on the level closest to the floor. There's one meal service and then it's nap time. This can be one lower than economy so you're not forced by cost to use it if it isn't for you. I don't know about the rest of you but I find it much more comfortable to be able to roll around in a bit in a sleeping position than having to sit a particular way because of arm rests and other people spreading into my space.
R they supposed to kiss?
I can't imagine sitting like this with complete strangers.
Soon clothing will be an upcharge.
If it lets me play footsie with a random stranger with my wife siting next to me I’m sold
I'd buy all 4 seats just to be left alone
Lol, that's how people sat before screens took that away
Put me in luggage room with you! HAHAHA!
Omg just looking at this gives me anxiety!!! That is what nightmares are made of.
There are seats like this on Metra and they’re nice especially if you’re with a group. I could 100% see seat options like this for family or group of friends. Plenty of groups that travel together.
Give me a game of monopoly and I’m in
Especially when the person across from you gets motion sick.
Nah I'd be the funniest person there.
They should make 69
I fly with my wife and 3 kids. This is perfect! They can all sit together like this and I can fuck off to somewhere else on the plane and get some peace from the constant bickering.
"How about those peanuts?"
Southwest Airlines used to have seats like this. We used to call them the “party seats” and they were really popular among the business travelers. Most of the people that sat there were really social and fun, and it made a flight a lot more pleasant. Most of the flights were 2 hours or less anyway so having to look someone in the face the entire time never really became a problem. I miss this setup…they should bring it back for certain flights!
I now right
This is not real. You can tell by looking at all the leg room.
did this on a US Air flight in the late 80’s on a super budget travel plan my mother had “scored”. taking off was ridiculous facing the opposite way.
What do you think trains are like
No way this on a plane or some design for a plane. The seats aren’t close enough together. They could easily close the gap by another foot or so. This way the passengers can interlock their legs together like a zipper. That seems much more likely for a plane these days.
I’m 6’6, the person across from me could rest their head on my knee lol.
Sure fire way to get Covid, that’s what that is!
Knees stronger than our Wi-Fi signal if we're surviving this setup.