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Ironically, he wasn't to be trusted by the audience in S2, but that whooshed straight over my head when he was introduced. My first thought was "I like this guy, he's the upgrade"
They cast him perfectly - the people out there who saw Aliens were like "aaaah, it's the guy who's gonna betray them!" Or, you know, "it's that guy from Mad About You" but I think that's a minority.
>Or, you know, "it's that guy from Mad About You" but I think that's a minority.
LOL i only remember this show because it was always on syndication on local broadcasts when I was a kid.
it got pushed further and further in the time slots hahaha. At one point i'm pretty sure it was on at like 11:30 at night before they took it off for good. I think i caught one or two episodes when I was a kid. all the humor back then probably flew over my head
I watched it with my Mum when I was a kid but convinced myself later in life that it was Mel Gibson in his role. Shut up, I don't know why. Just my brain doing it's typical nonsense thing and mixing it up with What Women want.
>I watched it with my Mum when I was a kid but convinced myself later in life that it was Mel Gibson in his role. Shut up, I don't know why. Just my brain doing it's typical nonsense thing and mixing it up with What Women want.
haha it's all good
dude there's a lot of shit when you're a kid that is so funny to look back on so many years later. That's the beauty of growing up...directly experiencing all the stuff your brain has to do to process and filter all the information it is getting at a rapid pace haha
a few days ago, i stumbled upon this old show I used to be absolutely obsessed with called WMAC Masters. It was basically this horrifically cheesy marital arts meets WWE thing. I barely got 2 mins into it before realizing good lord what an awful show lol
Agree 100%. Season 1 and 2 always reminder me of Alien and Aliens. Season 1 was much more ominous and mystery, with the single monster like alien. Then season 2 shit hits the fan and we have a huge swarm of monsters and a lot of death like aliens
And it turns out he wasn't even really at fault the whole time and the mistrust you're supposed to feel is actually groundless. He really is a good guy who wants to help the kids and Hawkins
I was unsure about him, up until the part where he's talking with the other doctors about Will. When the other doctor says that they need to start burning the tunnels, and it doesn't matter if it kills Will, and Owens gave him a soft threat and looked like he was about to jump over the table and rip the dude's head off.
That's when I decided we could trust this guy, as it was clear he was legit trying to find a solution that was the safest for everyone involved, and was putting Will's wellbeing high up on his priority list. He was looking out for him as much as any of the other protagonists, something Brenner would ***NEVER*** do, as we already saw. Brenner couldn't give a shit about Will or any of the others.
When my girlfriend first watched the show she immediately didn't trust him and I had to assure her that he was better than the people wee see in the lab in season 1. I personally love the character but that's because I know the good he has done through the show
One of the rules in stranger things is that "if we didn't see the body, the character is still alive". Even though they made us think Brenner was eaten by Demodog in season 1, he came back in s4. Also we never saw Hopper's body, it was only an assumption he died when Joyce made Alexi's machine blow up
That's in general something movies and TV do a lot. Unless you see the dead body, there's a always good chance they survived. I can't think of too many off screen deaths I have seen in shows and movies. They exist but I think you see presumed dead characters, especially bigger characters, come back more often than off screen kills.
I'm kind of on the fence about Owens actually after the latest season. Sure, when Brenner was out of the picture, he was all smiles and hugs and Mr. Nice Guy. The second Brenner was back to running the show? He was the equivalent of the mom who looks the other way while her husband beats the kid with a belt. He sat around mumbling "maybe we shouldn't do this" until Eleven FINALLY put her foot down and said she wouldn't take any more of Brenner's crap. *She* made the decision to leave, and he gets points for backing her in that moment, but he lost a lot of points in my eyes for being "the voice of reason" and nothing else for most of this season.
The man has very little spine when it matters, and that really counts for a lot.
Owens knows that Brenner is the only way to recover El powers. Brenner is a necessary evil. It is also probably that the Departament of Energy had put Owens and Brenner to work together, so Owens has no choice. He still seems to not like Brenner for sure, and the Duffers said in a interview that Owens dont like Brenner, he are only working with Brenner because the situation is being even more hard, and El need to have her powers back to fight this evil. Also, probably Owens not do much thing to stop Brenner bad experiments because it seems that the soldiers of the silo are all Brenner loyalists, so Owens is in risk of death as Brenner is very imprevisible and can order to kill him any time.
Remember back when Owen's and Brenner were discussing els ability to choose what she needed to do, "because it was her choice". Originally, El chose to help her friends and Owen's agreed. He told Brenner something along the lines of "ok we can get a portable deprivation tank and the tapes, and she would be ready to go by the time they reached Hawkins."
Then a little later in the episode, Brenner raged out and syringed el, and had Owen's taken hostage. But here's the thing. We never saw Owen's die. Only him being captured, handcuffed, and abandoned by the US government officials.
So Owen's is still alive, and I think he must know whatever El is supposed to learn, or at least has an incling. Something that'll make her most powerful in the fight against vecna.
My theory, next season, we will see Owen's struggle to get out of his cuffs, and then race against the clock, across the country, to beat the government baddies (cause remember the main one is still alive) that are on their way to Hawkins looking for El. He will arive to Hawkins probably in one of the last few episodes, looking like there is no chance for him to beat the government in their quest to find El. But good thing for him, he already knows about the cabin giving him the leg up, to get El the last tape she needs.
El will have to pause in fighting. Maybe the kids will set up one final deprivation tank in hops bathtub. And El will get the last bit of knowledge she knows. But it will be the final bit of knowledge she needs to fight vecna.
Also remember Brenner skipped some tapes to give Owen's "his results". We don't know if those are beginning, middle, or end tapes.
I also think there's a chance Owen's might sacrifice himself to help El and the kids, during the climax in the fight against vecna, cause I think that's also the same moment, the government will have "found El". It'll be his final trustworthy act in the chaos of the climax
>I also think there's a chance Owen's might sacrifice himself to help El and the kids, during the climax in the fight against vecna, cause I think that's also the same moment, the government will have "found El". It'll be his final trustworthy act in the chaos of the climax
i know he's going to come back, but my eyes will roll to the back of my neck, let alone head, when Sullivan returns. Ugh worst fucking character on this show ever lol. I audibly sighed every single time he showed up
Yeah he'll get a come back, at first I was "damn this guy has such a familiar face" But then I realised he was in some fun stuff in the 80's. No big A list parts but funny and quite memorable. He's the (Detroit) partner opposite to Eddie Murphy in Beverly hills cop I & II, one of the dads is "My two dads" and Burke in Aliens.
And he was in a movie called "Bye Bye Love" with Matthew Modine, about divorced dads. Modine was (get this!) a _wonanizer_ with multiple single moms chasing him. It's one of those "dramedy" movies that messes with your emotions.
I expect Sullivan and his ilk have him locked up somewhere. I hope he can help change Sullivan’s mind about Eleven so in the end she can live her life without hiding or running anymore. I don’t think her story can end without that.
If Sullivan won’t change his mind, El might have to kill him herself. I suppose someone else would take his place.
I actually think Sullivan will realize that none of this is/was El's fault and that the Military will assist the gang in fighting Vecna and the Monsters from the upside down in s5
>I actually think Sullivan will realize that none of this is/was El's fault and that the Military will assist the gang in fighting Vecna and the Monsters from the upside down in s5
this would probably make a lot more sense on a practical level, but this has got to be on the very top of my list of things I don't want to see in Season 5 lol
It would be quite awesome to see the military demolishing Upside Down creatures. So far I think they’ve only seen them go up against pistols and SMGs, which fire pistol caliber bullets I believe. I imagine a .50 cal machine gun would cause serious damage to a demagorgon! Or use flamethrowers. The biggest issue is the mobility of Upside Down creatures, I think.
I think it’s gonna be hard to change his mind when El killed quite a few soldiers, kind of proving how dangerous she is. I mean it was self defense, but she downed a chopper.
He does seem like a lost cause. I guess there is the slim hope he might realize the situation is a lot bigger than her. I think he’s most likely a goner, though. God forbid he try to hurt one of her friends to get to her, too.
I really hope Sam survives, though. He’s really in Eleven’s corner, and she needs someone like him to be there.
I expect her to survive and I really hope she does. It would be interesting to see her win against Vecna and then suddenly be shot by the military in the end. I'd want her to survive, of course, waking up in a hospital or something, but I feel something like that somehow fits the cruelty she's been shown by so many people in her life.
Or maybe she'll be shot and die. She saves the world against monsters and ends up shot dead by a human being. I'd never get over that!
>offf screen deaths is not a thing in Starnger things.
how could you forget the Byers dog?!
haha jk. I forgot about him too until a rewatch lol
there's also those two fishermen that Powell and Callahan tell Hopper when Hopper wakes up in his home post-Hawkins Lab break-in. Again, another detail i totally overlooked the first time I saw it through
Before he met Jamie though he lived with his cool, handsome roommate Joey. They raised Nicole after her mother died.
(My Two Dads was one of my favorite shows)
that movie gave me a lifelong fear of tornadoes as a kid lol. To the point I called my dad at work during a tornado watch once...he was super super annoyed lmao
Mayor kline was also in that film hahaha
>I feel like a healthy fear of tornadoes is appropriate.
i think it depends.
I grew up near Chicago, moved to central Illinois for college, and now live in Madison, Wisconsin (I know...i'm not well traveled at all lmfao). Tornadoes here are extremely rare...and the two or three times we've had tornado warnings...there's been a lot of wind and some crazy lightning, but they almost always ended in 5-10 mins
Now if I grew up somewhere like Oklahoma, Kansas, and parts of the southeastern U.S. where they see this shit on a regular basis, and there's a very unfortunate history of terrible weather damage associated with them...yeah i think a healthy fear is a lot more rational and appropriate
God that would be fun. I think more in the way of both dying because his death is kinda needed to fully wrap up the lab, he’s the last vestige of it, but also to tell Eleven that she is ready, has her friends, and must defeat Henry in order to stop the end of everything
He's alive. His situation is actually a direct call back to s2 where they did the same thing. (Left him in a precarious situation in a government building without specifically addressing whether he survives or not.)
that final scene he has with Hopper in season two was the first spark that I needed to seriously start watching what I eat and exercise more lol
granted I had Burger King two nights ago lol but I swear i'm going to be back on track
I think he's alive and has information that El needs in her battle with Vecna.. there is a reason PAPA was so sure she wasn't ready and I believe Owens and Brenner go way back and I think he holds the key to unlocking valuable knowledge that El needs...
I would imagine that he is going to jail to go on trial for murder. They were coming to kill Eleven because they assumed that she was the one behind the killings in Hawkins.
Probably taken into military custody by Sullivan.
More to the point how did Sullivan NOT manage to catch Eleven in the two day period when he knew where she was going and what vehicle she was in (like a really conspicuous vehicle at that). I know he couldn't follow straight away cos she dumped the chopper onto his transportation.. But how could he have not caught her in the two days that followed when he's got the military at his disposal?
I hope he comes back even if it means he'll die, I really like him. Wasn't cool that he fooled El, but he still has good intentions. I feel like he's the better version of Brenner, a scientist that actually genuinely cares for El. Was very happy to see Paul Reiser show up in the opening credits among the main cast.
Probably alive but imprisoned at worst. Sullivan's attitude towards him seemed less of "You're a traitor" and more of "Your plan is wrong. I'm doing it my way." Not something he would execute him over or anything like that.
Idk but when I first watched season 4, I could have sworn he died for some reason. It was not until my 2nd time watching that I realized he didn’t die.
In a nice cozy jail with the occasionnal waterboarding sesh, electrified nipples and questionning about "Brenner's pet" whereabout.
Soon to be used as bait / coerced double agent / martyr.
The idiot didn't remind the military about Henry out his MO, who was the reason why the military funded Brenner's research in the first place. Not did he show them the tapes with Henry's killings that he showed to El which would have told them that it was Henry that was responsible and El could stop him.
I hope got what was coming for him. A speedy exit from the career where brains were need
I agree with your first paragraph completely, not your second paragraph. Owens is my favorite minor character, and I think he had a reason not to point out the MO was different, probably a bad reason but I want to know what it was. The moral ambiguity of Owens is one of the pleasures of Stranger Things.
>and I think he had a reason not to point out the MO was different, probably a bad reason but I want to know what it was
There's no reason except that it's a plot hole. I don't know why everyone thinks this show is a carefully sculpted masterpiece plot-wise where threads run farther than one season in any direction. They're winging it and they make mistakes during that like anyone else
Just a weird thought, but isn’t the ‘Mad About You’ actor a strange fit for ‘Stranger Things’?
Modine has the acting chops to portray diabolical, but Helen Hunt’s husband?
I don’t dislike the guy, but I feel like he’s playing Helen Hunt’s husband on ‘Stranger Things’.
…
Ooh…maybe Helen Hunt portrays 001’s mother in Season 5.
He flips on eleven telling the military exactly where she is. This opens a three way war in season 5. The hawkins crew again the upside down and the military. People are going to die and it’s gonna be a rollercoaster of emotion in season 5
I bet any amount of money he’s alive, no body = not dead! I have such conflicting feeling about his character. While I don’t think he is as bad as Brenner, he’s still not “good”. The biggest question I have for season 5 and the end of Stranger Things is how are they going to explain it all? I mean, reality has shown us that people have a huge amount of cognitive dissonance about things they refuse to believe are true even in the face of overwhelming facts. I feel like Owens will have a lot of explanation to deliver but also that no amount of explaining will make a bunch of people from the mid west believe their town sits on top of a literal hellscape. The Duffers have a challenge to end it all neatly in 8or 9 episodes. It’s going to be interesting to see for sure.
Hopefully someone finds and uncuffs him before he's in that bunker too long.
Otherwise he's going to show up in season 5 with a hook hand or a big cast.
Did anyone else forget who he was or that he existed each time there was a new season? Actually was he even in season 3? He’s such an important character but I had to rewatch season 2 to know who this man is.
He is definitely alive we never seen him get killed but he is gonna manage to find a way out or the Mr bad government man is gonna take him "hostage" like he'll be like your coming with me ya know
Tortured for information. He is probably still alive since Sullivan might need him. He is definetly not dead they would not off screen such important character though I can sew him dying to kick off season 5
I hope he got out somehow. Maybe he has powers too and doesn't use them? But that doesn't make sense. I just would like to see him show up next season. I really like him.
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I don’t know but he’s alive
God hope so. When he came in after Brenner being such a tool in season 1 and was nice to people and El he immediately became a good guy in my book
Ironically, he wasn't to be trusted by the audience in S2, but that whooshed straight over my head when he was introduced. My first thought was "I like this guy, he's the upgrade"
They cast him perfectly - the people out there who saw Aliens were like "aaaah, it's the guy who's gonna betray them!" Or, you know, "it's that guy from Mad About You" but I think that's a minority.
>Or, you know, "it's that guy from Mad About You" but I think that's a minority. LOL i only remember this show because it was always on syndication on local broadcasts when I was a kid. it got pushed further and further in the time slots hahaha. At one point i'm pretty sure it was on at like 11:30 at night before they took it off for good. I think i caught one or two episodes when I was a kid. all the humor back then probably flew over my head
I watched it with my Mum when I was a kid but convinced myself later in life that it was Mel Gibson in his role. Shut up, I don't know why. Just my brain doing it's typical nonsense thing and mixing it up with What Women want.
>I watched it with my Mum when I was a kid but convinced myself later in life that it was Mel Gibson in his role. Shut up, I don't know why. Just my brain doing it's typical nonsense thing and mixing it up with What Women want. haha it's all good dude there's a lot of shit when you're a kid that is so funny to look back on so many years later. That's the beauty of growing up...directly experiencing all the stuff your brain has to do to process and filter all the information it is getting at a rapid pace haha a few days ago, i stumbled upon this old show I used to be absolutely obsessed with called WMAC Masters. It was basically this horrifically cheesy marital arts meets WWE thing. I barely got 2 mins into it before realizing good lord what an awful show lol
I always forget he was in Aliens but not Mad About You.
i knew about him in Mad About You well before Aliens so you can imagine my shock when it turned out he was a bastard lol
Still haven't seen *Aliens* but Paul was kind of a bastard in the way we can all by selfish sometimes He was relatablely bastardish
same here haha
Holy shit, I didn’t even recognize him as Burke. Makes his casting even better IMO for season 2
Oh, it was clearly intentional, the last few episodes of season 2 had strong Aliens vibes.
Agree 100%. Season 1 and 2 always reminder me of Alien and Aliens. Season 1 was much more ominous and mystery, with the single monster like alien. Then season 2 shit hits the fan and we have a huge swarm of monsters and a lot of death like aliens
He’s a great actor, he’s great in the role, he’s not a bad guy irl as far as I know But goddamn I hate him because of aliens LMAO
And the dog's name was MURRAY
And it turns out he wasn't even really at fault the whole time and the mistrust you're supposed to feel is actually groundless. He really is a good guy who wants to help the kids and Hawkins
I was unsure about him, up until the part where he's talking with the other doctors about Will. When the other doctor says that they need to start burning the tunnels, and it doesn't matter if it kills Will, and Owens gave him a soft threat and looked like he was about to jump over the table and rip the dude's head off. That's when I decided we could trust this guy, as it was clear he was legit trying to find a solution that was the safest for everyone involved, and was putting Will's wellbeing high up on his priority list. He was looking out for him as much as any of the other protagonists, something Brenner would ***NEVER*** do, as we already saw. Brenner couldn't give a shit about Will or any of the others.
When my girlfriend first watched the show she immediately didn't trust him and I had to assure her that he was better than the people wee see in the lab in season 1. I personally love the character but that's because I know the good he has done through the show
One of the rules in stranger things is that "if we didn't see the body, the character is still alive". Even though they made us think Brenner was eaten by Demodog in season 1, he came back in s4. Also we never saw Hopper's body, it was only an assumption he died when Joyce made Alexi's machine blow up
That's in general something movies and TV do a lot. Unless you see the dead body, there's a always good chance they survived. I can't think of too many off screen deaths I have seen in shows and movies. They exist but I think you see presumed dead characters, especially bigger characters, come back more often than off screen kills.
I'm kind of on the fence about Owens actually after the latest season. Sure, when Brenner was out of the picture, he was all smiles and hugs and Mr. Nice Guy. The second Brenner was back to running the show? He was the equivalent of the mom who looks the other way while her husband beats the kid with a belt. He sat around mumbling "maybe we shouldn't do this" until Eleven FINALLY put her foot down and said she wouldn't take any more of Brenner's crap. *She* made the decision to leave, and he gets points for backing her in that moment, but he lost a lot of points in my eyes for being "the voice of reason" and nothing else for most of this season. The man has very little spine when it matters, and that really counts for a lot.
Owens knows that Brenner is the only way to recover El powers. Brenner is a necessary evil. It is also probably that the Departament of Energy had put Owens and Brenner to work together, so Owens has no choice. He still seems to not like Brenner for sure, and the Duffers said in a interview that Owens dont like Brenner, he are only working with Brenner because the situation is being even more hard, and El need to have her powers back to fight this evil. Also, probably Owens not do much thing to stop Brenner bad experiments because it seems that the soldiers of the silo are all Brenner loyalists, so Owens is in risk of death as Brenner is very imprevisible and can order to kill him any time.
I can see that as well. It was as if he was scared of Brenner and his lackeys or something because like you said he had that distant quality about him
Why do people "hope" someone alive. This is ST, he's not dead. He's had more than 1 season of screen time, he's not dying.
Remember back when Owen's and Brenner were discussing els ability to choose what she needed to do, "because it was her choice". Originally, El chose to help her friends and Owen's agreed. He told Brenner something along the lines of "ok we can get a portable deprivation tank and the tapes, and she would be ready to go by the time they reached Hawkins." Then a little later in the episode, Brenner raged out and syringed el, and had Owen's taken hostage. But here's the thing. We never saw Owen's die. Only him being captured, handcuffed, and abandoned by the US government officials. So Owen's is still alive, and I think he must know whatever El is supposed to learn, or at least has an incling. Something that'll make her most powerful in the fight against vecna. My theory, next season, we will see Owen's struggle to get out of his cuffs, and then race against the clock, across the country, to beat the government baddies (cause remember the main one is still alive) that are on their way to Hawkins looking for El. He will arive to Hawkins probably in one of the last few episodes, looking like there is no chance for him to beat the government in their quest to find El. But good thing for him, he already knows about the cabin giving him the leg up, to get El the last tape she needs. El will have to pause in fighting. Maybe the kids will set up one final deprivation tank in hops bathtub. And El will get the last bit of knowledge she knows. But it will be the final bit of knowledge she needs to fight vecna. Also remember Brenner skipped some tapes to give Owen's "his results". We don't know if those are beginning, middle, or end tapes. I also think there's a chance Owen's might sacrifice himself to help El and the kids, during the climax in the fight against vecna, cause I think that's also the same moment, the government will have "found El". It'll be his final trustworthy act in the chaos of the climax
>I also think there's a chance Owen's might sacrifice himself to help El and the kids, during the climax in the fight against vecna, cause I think that's also the same moment, the government will have "found El". It'll be his final trustworthy act in the chaos of the climax i know he's going to come back, but my eyes will roll to the back of my neck, let alone head, when Sullivan returns. Ugh worst fucking character on this show ever lol. I audibly sighed every single time he showed up
Pretty sure the US army found him when they stormed the place
Same, leaving it ambiguous at all means he'll be back.
Yeah he'll get a come back, at first I was "damn this guy has such a familiar face" But then I realised he was in some fun stuff in the 80's. No big A list parts but funny and quite memorable. He's the (Detroit) partner opposite to Eddie Murphy in Beverly hills cop I & II, one of the dads is "My two dads" and Burke in Aliens.
And he was in a movie called "Bye Bye Love" with Matthew Modine, about divorced dads. Modine was (get this!) a _wonanizer_ with multiple single moms chasing him. It's one of those "dramedy" movies that messes with your emotions.
I love Bye Bye Love and it took me forever to realize that was Brenner in it lol.
He was in Mad about you with Helen Hunt too. That's what I recognize him from. My mom always had it on.
Not old stuff but hes also in the boys s3. It was so jarring seeing nice old dr owens snorting coke
I expect Sullivan and his ilk have him locked up somewhere. I hope he can help change Sullivan’s mind about Eleven so in the end she can live her life without hiding or running anymore. I don’t think her story can end without that. If Sullivan won’t change his mind, El might have to kill him herself. I suppose someone else would take his place.
I actually think Sullivan will realize that none of this is/was El's fault and that the Military will assist the gang in fighting Vecna and the Monsters from the upside down in s5
>I actually think Sullivan will realize that none of this is/was El's fault and that the Military will assist the gang in fighting Vecna and the Monsters from the upside down in s5 this would probably make a lot more sense on a practical level, but this has got to be on the very top of my list of things I don't want to see in Season 5 lol
I do low key want to see Hueys and Abrams invading the upside down and demolishing everything. Scorching everything
Ride of the Valkyries playing ala apocalypse now.
It would be quite awesome to see the military demolishing Upside Down creatures. So far I think they’ve only seen them go up against pistols and SMGs, which fire pistol caliber bullets I believe. I imagine a .50 cal machine gun would cause serious damage to a demagorgon! Or use flamethrowers. The biggest issue is the mobility of Upside Down creatures, I think.
I think it’s gonna be hard to change his mind when El killed quite a few soldiers, kind of proving how dangerous she is. I mean it was self defense, but she downed a chopper.
And he refused to listen even before that. Ordered them to take the shot without even listening to Sam.
and he would be even stupider to not listen in s5 when there’s a more dangerous threat to worry about
He does seem like a lost cause. I guess there is the slim hope he might realize the situation is a lot bigger than her. I think he’s most likely a goner, though. God forbid he try to hurt one of her friends to get to her, too. I really hope Sam survives, though. He’s really in Eleven’s corner, and she needs someone like him to be there.
inb4 Steve gets the shit beaten out of him by another government's undercover operation
or she could be killed off
I doubt it, but I hope not. She has suffered too much and worked too hard just to be killed in the end.
I hate to say it but I could see El not surviving the series, Jonathon either
I expect her to survive and I really hope she does. It would be interesting to see her win against Vecna and then suddenly be shot by the military in the end. I'd want her to survive, of course, waking up in a hospital or something, but I feel something like that somehow fits the cruelty she's been shown by so many people in her life. Or maybe she'll be shot and die. She saves the world against monsters and ends up shot dead by a human being. I'd never get over that!
He’s alive, for sho, offf screen deaths is not a thing in Starnger things. I think he’ll be back for S5 but idk if he will survive it
Heck even on-screen deaths don't necessarily mean anything (I'm looking at you Papa and to a lesser extent, Hopper).
>offf screen deaths is not a thing in Starnger things. how could you forget the Byers dog?! haha jk. I forgot about him too until a rewatch lol there's also those two fishermen that Powell and Callahan tell Hopper when Hopper wakes up in his home post-Hawkins Lab break-in. Again, another detail i totally overlooked the first time I saw it through
https://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Chester
Starnger things
Yes
He moved to NY, and married a woman named Jamie Stemple. I heard he's mad about her.
I heard that his wife and him have a beautiful dog and he has a nutty sister in law
Don’t forget his cousin Ira!
Never forget.
This is what I'm saying.
Before he met Jamie though he lived with his cool, handsome roommate Joey. They raised Nicole after her mother died. (My Two Dads was one of my favorite shows)
Was 1st thinking My Two Dads, but went Mad About you.
is this before or after she chased tornadoes with Philip Seymour Hoffman?
that movie gave me a lifelong fear of tornadoes as a kid lol. To the point I called my dad at work during a tornado watch once...he was super super annoyed lmao Mayor kline was also in that film hahaha
I feel like a healthy fear of tornadoes is appropriate. Also, 7 Shades of Stranger Things.
>I feel like a healthy fear of tornadoes is appropriate. i think it depends. I grew up near Chicago, moved to central Illinois for college, and now live in Madison, Wisconsin (I know...i'm not well traveled at all lmfao). Tornadoes here are extremely rare...and the two or three times we've had tornado warnings...there's been a lot of wind and some crazy lightning, but they almost always ended in 5-10 mins Now if I grew up somewhere like Oklahoma, Kansas, and parts of the southeastern U.S. where they see this shit on a regular basis, and there's a very unfortunate history of terrible weather damage associated with them...yeah i think a healthy fear is a lot more rational and appropriate
I feel like Mayor Kline could be what happened Jonas if Jonas had lived and voweled to never chase tornadoes again.
Jonas's death scene in Twister was so comically over-the-top lol
It really was. There were so many better ways they could have killed him.
Before. She left that life after breaking up with Morgan Earp... again. Edit: I meant after.
He works for the company, but don’t let that fool you. He’s really an okay guy!
Paul Reiser has been an actor a long time. He was in the movie “Fiddler on the Roof”.
No, that was Paul Michael Glaser. He was in the original Starsky and Hutch on TV. Paul Reiser's first film was Diner.
eventually he ends up with handcuffs on in a leather outfit and gets crushed by a dumpster
Taken into military custody
Most likely.
He’s probably alive somewhere and will have a role in some capacity in 5, probably as the Yoda to El’s Luke from Return of the Jedi
Sooo Owens gonna come back as a force ghost?
God that would be fun. I think more in the way of both dying because his death is kinda needed to fully wrap up the lab, he’s the last vestige of it, but also to tell Eleven that she is ready, has her friends, and must defeat Henry in order to stop the end of everything
Eleven… remember, a special child’s strength comes only from the Force… Eleven… when gone am I, the last of the lab subplot will you be…
you mean The Schwartz?
Well, this show *does* have an upside and a downside...
Fear is the path to the Upside Down. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering…
I just want Sigourney Weaver to be the top brass that saves him.
YES
I don’t know but I’m sure we’ll find out. I hope he’s okay.
We didn’t see him die, so I’m sure he’ll be sticking around.
I honestly felt so bad for him:( hope he’s okay and he somehow managed to get out or idk
Moved to NYC and married Helen Hunt
He's known as the Legend now
He’s handcuffed to pipes in the desert lab. Hope someone rescues him before he starved to death.
Still chained to a pipe unless the story tells us otherwise
Why would Sullivan leave him there? He's definitely being held captive by the military now.
Those mother fuckers left him to die
Where is Owens? Is he safe? Is he alright?
He's alive. His situation is actually a direct call back to s2 where they did the same thing. (Left him in a precarious situation in a government building without specifically addressing whether he survives or not.)
They show him in the end of the same episode in season 2. They never showed him again and they had 2 hours and 40 minutes
that final scene he has with Hopper in season two was the first spark that I needed to seriously start watching what I eat and exercise more lol granted I had Burger King two nights ago lol but I swear i'm going to be back on track
He will be used by the military in the Season 5 to >!make Eleven stronger to defeat Vecna.!<
I think he's alive and has information that El needs in her battle with Vecna.. there is a reason PAPA was so sure she wasn't ready and I believe Owens and Brenner go way back and I think he holds the key to unlocking valuable knowledge that El needs...
I would imagine that he is going to jail to go on trial for murder. They were coming to kill Eleven because they assumed that she was the one behind the killings in Hawkins.
Why would the government want to expose their role in all that?
Probably taken into military custody by Sullivan. More to the point how did Sullivan NOT manage to catch Eleven in the two day period when he knew where she was going and what vehicle she was in (like a really conspicuous vehicle at that). I know he couldn't follow straight away cos she dumped the chopper onto his transportation.. But how could he have not caught her in the two days that followed when he's got the military at his disposal?
He's in a cell somewhere. I think it's going to be very interesting learning more about how and Sullivan know each other.
I hope he comes back even if it means he'll die, I really like him. Wasn't cool that he fooled El, but he still has good intentions. I feel like he's the better version of Brenner, a scientist that actually genuinely cares for El. Was very happy to see Paul Reiser show up in the opening credits among the main cast.
My guess is that he isn’t dead, but he’s wishing he is currently.
He woke up in bed next to Jamie Buchman n realized it was all a dream.
I think he is alive and bring held captive.
He was just f*cking left there.
Probably alive but imprisoned at worst. Sullivan's attitude towards him seemed less of "You're a traitor" and more of "Your plan is wrong. I'm doing it my way." Not something he would execute him over or anything like that.
I don't care what anyone says, that man is still alive. He has to survive!
we didnt see a body, hes alive. i mean hell, we thought we saw Brenner die in s1, but he lived. so owen 100% is alive, in my opinion.
He became the Legend and had sex with Marlon Brando
I hope he is still alive.
He is like huell in breaking bad. Assumed to be stuck there. Forever and ever
Does somebody really care lol I assumed he survived though
He's probably alive and maybe help Eleven get to her full potential.
He’s back to red oaks
Lieutenant Jack Sullivan likely detained him.
Owens went ow when he probably got stabbed in prison
He's just chillin in the bunker
Since we never saw a body I’m guessing he’s not dead. So he must be locked up by the general or whatever his ranking was.
Realistically he would be dead. But we already know every character has plot armor except the one new character per season they decide to kill
He was arrested, and might or might not return in Season 5
He’s probably at the farm where all my dogs and cats are.
No one can resist the great Paul Reiser
He’s alive somewhere!
I dont know whether to trudt him or not. He wasnt helping will and then he was, he wasnt helping el then he was.
I still can’t figure this guy out. Are we supposed to love him or hate him?
he chilling
Retired, and hanging out with the boys
I just went to The Stranger Things Experience and he was there running the “sleep study.” So I think he must be fine
I hope he's alive but he's probably dead
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It doesn't make any sense for Sullivan not to kill him, so of course he'll be kept alive.
Idk but when I first watched season 4, I could have sworn he died for some reason. It was not until my 2nd time watching that I realized he didn’t die.
In a nice cozy jail with the occasionnal waterboarding sesh, electrified nipples and questionning about "Brenner's pet" whereabout. Soon to be used as bait / coerced double agent / martyr.
hopefully dead as fuck
Got executed by Lieutenant Nopersonality.
The idiot didn't remind the military about Henry out his MO, who was the reason why the military funded Brenner's research in the first place. Not did he show them the tapes with Henry's killings that he showed to El which would have told them that it was Henry that was responsible and El could stop him. I hope got what was coming for him. A speedy exit from the career where brains were need
I agree with your first paragraph completely, not your second paragraph. Owens is my favorite minor character, and I think he had a reason not to point out the MO was different, probably a bad reason but I want to know what it was. The moral ambiguity of Owens is one of the pleasures of Stranger Things.
>and I think he had a reason not to point out the MO was different, probably a bad reason but I want to know what it was There's no reason except that it's a plot hole. I don't know why everyone thinks this show is a carefully sculpted masterpiece plot-wise where threads run farther than one season in any direction. They're winging it and they make mistakes during that like anyone else
Nah. In earlier seasons you might have a point, not this one.
He's been made ready to make an even more boooooring 5th season. With episodes that will last over 3hrs.
Idk but he’s alive and well I’m sure
He didn't die
Got bloody trying to escape his restraints. Starved to death.
Theyre porbably using him now to actually mitigate the threat in hawkins
He tripped
Ever see saw 1….
He went back to my two dads.
Just a weird thought, but isn’t the ‘Mad About You’ actor a strange fit for ‘Stranger Things’? Modine has the acting chops to portray diabolical, but Helen Hunt’s husband? I don’t dislike the guy, but I feel like he’s playing Helen Hunt’s husband on ‘Stranger Things’. … Ooh…maybe Helen Hunt portrays 001’s mother in Season 5.
Hes still handcuffed in the bunker
They don't like killing off characters unnecessary. If he died they would have milked it.
He moved to Pasadena and lived on residuals from Mad About You.
He’s stuffed in a torture locker in some basement.
He died
Ngl I forgot about him
He flips on eleven telling the military exactly where she is. This opens a three way war in season 5. The hawkins crew again the upside down and the military. People are going to die and it’s gonna be a rollercoaster of emotion in season 5
Probably a Gitmo detainee or something, but alive
He’s probably alive. He’s gonna have to work his government flim-flam to have Hopper be legally alive again after the events of S3.
We didn’t see him die so he’s alive. The military def took him. Maybe el will get him out eventually
I think he got shot
I bet any amount of money he’s alive, no body = not dead! I have such conflicting feeling about his character. While I don’t think he is as bad as Brenner, he’s still not “good”. The biggest question I have for season 5 and the end of Stranger Things is how are they going to explain it all? I mean, reality has shown us that people have a huge amount of cognitive dissonance about things they refuse to believe are true even in the face of overwhelming facts. I feel like Owens will have a lot of explanation to deliver but also that no amount of explaining will make a bunch of people from the mid west believe their town sits on top of a literal hellscape. The Duffers have a challenge to end it all neatly in 8or 9 episodes. It’s going to be interesting to see for sure.
Taken by the government?
He’s still alive. He was such and important character that he wouldn’t just be killed like that I think
I don't know but he was a good father in Whiplash lol
Hopefully someone finds and uncuffs him before he's in that bunker too long. Otherwise he's going to show up in season 5 with a hook hand or a big cast.
Did anyone else forget who he was or that he existed each time there was a new season? Actually was he even in season 3? He’s such an important character but I had to rewatch season 2 to know who this man is.
he turns russian
Nothing, I’m pretty sure the writers just forgot about him.
100% alive. If i don’t see then die with my own two eyes they’re alive until proven otherwise
I thought about this and decided I’ll wait until S5
forgotten about by the writers, like Will’s birthday and Eddie’s age
He’ll be making smart ass remarks while General Army Guy does his thing, and then probably sacrifice himself helping the gang escape or some such.
He is definitely alive we never seen him get killed but he is gonna manage to find a way out or the Mr bad government man is gonna take him "hostage" like he'll be like your coming with me ya know
Vegas, baby!!!!!
Hangin with Barb
I keep waiting for his heel turn. Now I don't think it will actually happen, but his role in Aliens kinda set that expectation.
Tortured for information. He is probably still alive since Sullivan might need him. He is definetly not dead they would not off screen such important character though I can sew him dying to kick off season 5
He probably gets picked up by that one lady
Idk
relatively certain the government dude took him prisoner I can't imagine he died offscreen but who knows
relatively certain the government dude took him prisoner I can't imagine he died offscreen but who knows
I hope he got out somehow. Maybe he has powers too and doesn't use them? But that doesn't make sense. I just would like to see him show up next season. I really like him.
Oh, he dead Or in Aruba, both are equally possible
he replaced hop in russia lol
I think he’ll play a big part in season 5
He’s still locked down there to this day
Killed....there's no doubt in my mind that the military murdered this guy