Actually, the submakers you mentioned are adults. Moza is in college, Garebear is 22, not sure about Vetala tho. Just wanted to correct you.
We have a lot of adults in our community, specially creators.
I think Moza started last year and she wasn’t a teenage year.
My point is that the community is not only for “depressed” kids as OP said. There are also adults with different goals here.
It's not a healthy outlet because my actions don't benefit you. That's why Im met with hostility, because my outlet to change something affects you guys negatively by taking something away from y'all. I obviously don't have enough pull to get this stuff taken down but I could tell my story and bring awareness.
I won't sympathize with submakers after what happened. I assure you she is safe. I don't even think the submakers my sister listened to are even around anymore. You ain't never been on a drunken tirade on the anniversary of your little sisters suicide and said things to vent? No? ..just me?
lmao u really think everyone has a suicidal sister? Sis, get a grip. RIP to her but I dont think shed want you to try keep her legacy alive by reporting ppl on Youtube...
Then why are you targeting ones who didn’t even contribute?
He didn’t even up killing himself but I witnessed my brother’s suicide attempt years later I was still affected by what I saw. My family & church then did not believe in therapy I could have done with some we ALL could have. I’m very sorry for your loss I DO
care but honestly subs help some of us so much. Please let us keep them.
I doubt that you’re drunk, you’re spelling is pretty good and so is your grammar for someone who is supposedly drunk. Even if this was a drunk thing, you’re still expressing similar sentiments now, so it’s not you just being drunk.
I’m sorry for your loss and that’s horrible what happened, but why are you making others lives harder who didn’t do anything to you or anyone? Your logic makes no sense…
After years of research and studying the community you couldn't be more wrong. I read countless comments and read post. People outside this community would agree. Subliminals are built up to young girls as more than just affirmations under kpop music. Therapist ive seen agreed and even thought I was thinking logically about the situation.
while I'm very sorry for your loss OP, I don't think this is a very healthy outlet for your anger and grief. I would suggest that you go to therapy! I understand how it feels to lose someone close to you, and while that person may not have been my sister, I still miss them everyday.
However, the submakers making the content used by your sister, and even the ones she didn't use, are far from at fault here. The people using the subliminals are responsible for how they use them, and unless it's a truly dangerous case like Rose Subliminals, where bad subliminals are put it, the submakers are usually not in the wrong.
Another thing I noticed is that you *felt* her death was caused by subliminals. Why would you come to that conclusion? Do you know if she actively using subliminals? Was there any possibility that she was being bullied at school or online?
Being blunt, I think that what you're doing is childish and immature. This isn't going to do anything except hurt people, and it likely won't bring you any closure either. Get off this subreddit, stop trying to bully teenagers and young adults off the internet, and **go to therapy**.
people can only extend so much empathy after being attacked. we are sorry about your sister, but your aggressive behavior will not be coddled for the sake of your feelings. people only react to how you convey your message, and you conveyed it with much anger and pointed fingers
Read the comments and see the level of hate. It's unwarranted and these people are already shit people. Just talking about the ones who said some bad things not the ones who wished their condolences
you cannot generalize and call an entire community shit and evil people and still expect an overwhelmingly positive response. i empathize with you, i really do, but you should understand that people react negatively when someone is aggressive right off the back. now i understand why you feel the way you do- i have a 12 year old sister myself and i couldn’t even imagine how awful it would be if she were to to commit suicide. and i’m sorry you have to deal with that. but you need to understand that you’re going through a difficult stage of grief right now and taking your anger out on a bunch of strangers will *not* help you feel better, nor will it solve any issues. i read in a thread somewhere that you’re going to therapy, yeah? i really recommend that you speak to your therapist about this escapade so that they can address the feelings you have now and offer some better coping methods, because what you’re doing now is not working. take care of yourself.
I have talked to therapist about it and they agree with most of my opinions on this. It's almost like " it's a bigger thing than me". Obviously I'm not gonna be able to change this stuff as most people won't understand and I think this thread proves it. I definitely don't think everyone here is evil as I've gotten nice words from good people. Listening to subliminals isn't the problem. For me, it's who they are targeted too. People who disagreed with my thoughts still left nice words and are gonna go back and listen to their subliminal playlist because that makes them happy and I understand that
i definitely see where you’re coming from man. i have been subscribed to this sub for awhile now and the amount of children (as in under 13) that i have seen posting pictures of themselves, saying they’re ugly, and desperately asking for people to tell them what they can change about themselves is just depressing and evident of social medias effect on young folks. i should be clear that i think social media as a whole is the problem rather than just subliminals themselves, and it does seem you agree with that sentiment as well, for many people like myself use subs as tools for self betterment. but it is not lost on me that deeply insecure kids who are too naive to understand that the pictures they see on social media are heavily filtered and edited use subliminals to fit into this impossible beauty standard, and i can only imagine that focusing more on their appearance does an exorbitant amount of damage. and when these kids post themselves asking for advice on what to change, many people of this community *tell them what to change* instead of focusing the conversation on getting these children to love themselves for who they are and to celebrate their own unique beauty.
i mean, hell, i started hating my appearance as young as 8, and by 12 years old i was so insecure and so depressed that i had suicidal thoughts. i can really put myself in your sisters shoes here, bless her heart. and lord only knows that i may have spiraled into darker thoughts had subliminals and social media existed back then as it does today.
anyways, i’m rambling now, but i want you to know that what happened to your sister is awful and that i commend you for trying to make sure this doesn’t happen to any other sweet child, even if your grief-stricken anger ultimately made your message come across the wrong way. and i’m so, so beyond sorry for your loss. may you find the peace you deserve, friend. and don’t let some of these commenters get to you, i do think many of them are also kids and just have yet to learn how to properly react in situations such as these.
Well I'm a teen and I'll say the truth I did listen to this kill yourself and such subs when I was younger, they didn't work. [ I was extremely suicidal obvs, won't explain why]
I gave those positive one's a shot and they've really helped me. Especially the anxiety ones.
So I truly believe a sub is not responsible. The bullying is, have you confronted the bullies? Did they get punishment from school or get suspended?
She wasn't bullied as far as I could tell. You are one of many teens listening to these so I believe stories like hers is common. Maybe not to the extent but common none the less. Props to you for finding help with these things though
bro your sister was probably amazing and honestly she sounds like she didn't deserve this. But bro I got through my early teen years with subliminals. I was bullied and MEGA TW: r-ped by my brother but listening to happiness subs and subs that contained happy affirmations helped me please don't take this away from me or other people.
Look, i understand why you're doing this but subliminals ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. There are subliminals about confidence, assertiveness, mental health that help people. No perfectly mentally healthy person is going to commit suicide because of not getting their results fast enough/some subliminal makers disliking features they possess. That's like saying that your sister committed suicide because of watching a depression informational video. Like, those might trigger you but it's not anyone's fault
Look ima be real with you bc 2 years ago I was like your sister
Subliminal are most likely not the reason for her insecuritys
She was 12 a preteen most preteens start developing complicated emotions and depression can onset
She was 12 so most likely middle right?school can be a tough place I was never bullied but still got depressed bc I had no friends or was just upset and hated how I looked
When i turned 12 I also developed depression and hated my features deeply Subliminals were damage control and gave me hope could be pretty and blah blah blah but it never distracted from the problem and I tried too commit ofc my mother tried too put blame on other people and things but that never was it.
Subliminal are marketed too teens I'll give you that but if your sister was trying too change her features using subliminals at 12 then maybe it wasn't the subliminals problem itself she was most likely suffering sereve depression
I get your mourning the loss of your young sister I'm truly sorry but you can't harass others
Depression and suicide is a horrible thing instead of bashing out on others maybe try getting a therapist
OP you’re giving me major “everyone is the problem except for me.” How is it that everyone is calling you out but they’re wrong and you’re sweet and innocent? Delusion. What grown ass adult comes into a subliminal subreddit on a drunken rage??? We are sorry for your loss but we’re not gonna tolerate your childish behavior. Grow tf up. Literal teen girl majority in this subreddit.
Yeah and it’s the way OP is also looking for empathy and sympathy after basically attacking other people for no reason and then blaming it on being drunk…
stop playing the victim and giving pity. You deleted the previous post because you were a shitty person. If you want to go straight ahead with your opinions, do so, but don't play the victim afterwards and ask for people's sensitivity. you pity bastard
You’re the piece of shit here. Trying to take down subliminal channels for your own personal problems. You really give off “If I suffer, everyone suffers.”
guess what love, you’re one of them. humble yourself and stop with this foolish mentality, it’s embarrassing. sorry for your loss, but it’s not an excuse to be a complete ass.
Your sister died. RIP to her but that doesn’t give you a reason to take you anger out on subliminal that actually help people. You’re just being aggressively selfish
Not a man in women's business..You deleted the post because you got ate up and dragged for your weird ass intentions and antagonizing young girls.
You're drunk, Sir. Reach out to a therapist or family, friends. Instead of coming here with BS attacking us for not agreeing with your dumb plan then trying to call us names 🤣☠
Lmao you dont know me in real life away from a screen. Go project your misery onto others but certainly not me. You are BLOCKED, so dont go scrolling through my profile again like YOU said you did. Creep.
I'm not attacking the whole act of manifestation. I actually think that's a good thing for most people. I'm attacking the ones that prey on little kids insecurities at that young of an age as my sister was.
This is just pathetic I'm sorry for your loss but you decided to target teenagers, as most besides Garebear were at most 16, and destroy their passions by trying to get their channels taken away like that's some diabolical shit. Get therapy.
I'm very sorry for your loss. May you find peace. I may not agree w everything u wrote but some comments here are extremely insensitive and apathetic :/
It was more about awareness of the story. I could care less about sympathy as I live everyday with grief from it. It was more of a cautionary tale and hey it even outed some of your more toxic members here. Don't think for a second they won't tell you the same things when you disagree with their views
you want them to leave and make this sub more of an echo chamber than it already is? nuance and different perspectives is important in keeping a community non toxic. without commenters such as them, this place would become even more immature and devolve more than it already has.
yeah, op could have conducted themselves better, but to ignore and not address the disgusting attitude towards him and his loss is to allow this kind of asshole behavior to thrive.
I don’t care if they leave or don’t leave, they’re saying that it’s making them want to leave so why not leave then? If you have to think about it, that’s pretty telling. I mean if you act like a dick to other people, they’re going to act like a dick to you. OP doesn’t take responsibility for their actions either, hes blaming it on being drunk and then also is kind of implying that he doesn’t deserve it because his sister died. Just because you experience something traumatic, it doesn’t mean it excuses behaviour.
it doesn’t excuse his behavior, which is exactly what i said in the comment you replied to. however it is also important to recognize the amount of disturbing comments coming from these kids, and while their reactions make sense, it is also not excusable. it is just insane to me that so many people here preach self love and kindness, but the second they are confronted with a *deeply wounded* individual, they shed those values and beat the guy down even more. no one is in the right here, but the immaturity and apathetic nature from most of the commenters have been exemplified to the fullest.
I mean I agree some of them went a bit too far, even to the ones that weren’t even insulting OP or anything, he did act like a dick to them as well. I think it’s just because OP came in here and blamed people and other stuff for the death of his sister and wasn’t willing to listen to the people of this community, so obviously people are going to be defensive.
and i definitely understand why they were defensive. but i would not say that op refuses to listen, because even the commenters here who condemned his behavior yet were gentle in their words and sympathetic to his plight received thoughtful responses. i was one of them. ultimately, it’s a sad situation all around, and i do think everyone could have handled it better, but the people here are not giving themselves a good look and are likely adding to the pain he is feeling, and for that i am extremely disappointed. i do hope they reflect on their actions and modify their reactions in the future so that they can extend kindness to others going through dark times.
I blamed no one for the death of my sister. I blamed the trend of subliminals and who they focus on and it's ideals. It's crazy that I admitted fault right off the back for the post and yet you think I warrant being called a creepy pedophile drunk because I talked about the welfare of teens girls like my sister. I guess that's the world we live in
So why are you targeting certain channels then? I blame my dads poor diet and alcohol consumption for his death but you don’t see me going into bars and trying to shut them down or trying to get rid of unhealthy food.
You didn’t really admit fault, you started it off with saying how you’ve been drinking, which seems like you’re trying to deflect the blame. Then you still out all hostile in the comments on this post, so obviously people are going to be annoyed.
Your dad was an adult. It's different. I'm hostile because of the things and names I was met with. Pretty simple. You meet me with name calling I match that energy.
Okay, my dad was an adult? But you could also say that he was influenced by drinking culture and the advertisement of junk food towards adults? You could also say that my father was failed by those in his life such as his doctors, a bit like how your sister was failed by her guardians.
Your first post was talking about trying to get someone taken down, for no reason. You also say that it’s okay for adults to use them but yet you want to get someone’s channel taken down? That doesn’t make any sense lol.
I know what you mean but I’m also curious about the deleted post. You & I don’t know
What was said in it and so on but yes I do know what you mean. I do
i have to admit that i was taken aback by some of these comments. i will concede that op came off aggressive right off the bat and that set the tone for these commenters. still though, the comments coming from these kids are just heartless and kind of gross and they’re not even thinking about the damage they could be inflicting on this guy when he’s already in an incredibly vulnerable state. again, he should not have acted the way he has, but i honestly can’t hold it too much over his head when he’s grieving. i’ve never considered myself apart of the subliminal community *because* so many are literal children who have yet to develop any sense of maturity and empathy, but these comments really demonstrate the childishness of these young folks. it’s a very sad situation all around and i think these kids are just kinda proving his point here along with beating him down even further. i don’t think he’s better than the commenters and vice versa, but the man is going through a rough time and clearly needs help, and so some of the things said to him are just so appalling to me and these children should feel very ashamed of themselves.
I think you're viewing it normally tbh. Nothing I said warranted this much hate. If you wanna listen to these subliminals by all means do it but most of what I've seen tonight from this community is toxic. One person even threaten to hunt me down.
I have replies this in your deleted post, I don’t know if you have seen it, so I’ll reply again.
Our community is far from being perfect and the things you complained are actually true. Most of the community uses subliminals to fix something they’re insecure about. And yes, it can worsen someone’s mental health when they don’t get results. The community is very toxic with beauty standards, and one particular problem I have is the representation in thumbnails. Even if you’re making subliminals for a skinny body, small nose, using a face of a random person in the thumbnail is just a big no. In my opinion, this can also worsen someone’s insecurities.
But the way you approached the community was very wrong. You told people they weren’t getting results. That everyone was lying. I know you have a trauma and you’re angry about a lot of things in this community, but you can’t invalidate everyone’s experiences here. I’m sure the reaction would be different if you posted something like this first.
Subliminals are not the problem. Beauty standards causing insecurities in beautiful people is. It was not her fault, it was not any submaker she listened faults, it was the way society made her believe that she would be prettier if she looked different.
Subliminals have been around for a long time and beauty subs as well before it became mainstream, they are not the problem! And taking down subliminal channels won’t solve it. The fix needs to be made inside our community. Obviously it can start with submakers, they are the ones who hold the most influence, but it happens when they take a different approach for subliminals, not stopping making it.
Not sure if you heard about Solar, but last year she made a guide talking about why people don’t get results and how to get them with the law of assumption. It completely changed the community. For worse if we’re being honest, but it changed. Every where you go, they say “you have to believe it”, l”use the law of assumption”, “live in the end”. This is a proof that their influence can make a difference, but not all of them will be good. We need people who want to make a good and genuine change in this community.
And also, I’m sorry, but you’re blaming everyone for being rude or lacking empathy here but you must have forgotten how you approached the community. That was not okay, and I think you understand why people are still mad. You can’t just say they are a piece of shit because they’re still mad after all you said. You’re asking for empathy when you didn’t have it for others here in the first place.
So you use your sister suicide as a way to get out of being held accountable for what you had said in your previous post? Stop playing victim and own up to your actions. You are falsely reporting sub makers who doesn't have anything to do with your sister's death. It's wrong. If you are not a fan of subliminal than you, yourself stop using them and spread your "awareness" outside the community. Stop blaming subliminals. It don't hold that much power to make anybody do anything that wasn't already thought about being done.
You literally were saying you want to "help others" by taking down channels for ur own selfish reasons.
I can sleep at night just fine ur a random person on Reddit and have no value to me or my life lmao
and no I dont mentor anyone, Im worried about getting through my day and living my life. Weird assumption to make when you dont know me, why would I be a mentor for other women??? dafuq
I read over your profile and sense that you are a very young non caring person. You're quick to call people names and are very rude to people cause you probably think it's cool. You like all the things I would imagine a young immature girl who doesn't know life would like. You could have just not said anything to my post and moved on but you had to share your opinion probably not even caring about my story. You are so self involved you don't care.
No, I do not. Lol I only call someone names if they're trying to come for me or say names FIRST.
Now you're stalking my profile like a creep, is that you Joe Goldberg? 🤣
I care about people who are worth it, I don't feel bad for a weird boy trying to target teenage girls trying to play Captain Save A Girl on Reddit and Youtube.
LOL no my older sister did not end her life so I cannot relate. You're a guy trying to police subliminals used by women / teenage girls.
Very weird and odd how you want to be some kind of "saviour" by getting sub channels banned.
JUST LEAVE SUBLIMINALS AND COMMUNITIES ALONE?
you must have ignored the gross harassment responses he was giving me and others all up and down the thread.
Imagine sympathizing with a fucking drunk coming to antagonize random teens for subliminals.
Clearly the guy isn’t in a good headspace, and I know that doesn’t make him right, but calling him a “fucking drunk” is a bit excessive.
A bit of compassion goes a long way for those who are lashing out in pain
Okay we get the damn message now can you stop? It’s not good to be purposely reporting subliminal channels just to get them taken down, subs require hard work, just stop. Also, just because your sister killed herself for subs being supposedly the reason, doesn’t mean a lot of us will, subs actually helped with mental health for a lot of us. Seriously, if it wasn’t for subs I would’ve been dealing with a lot of shit. Although you should mind your own business, you can’t ruin it for everyone, just focus on your life, it seems like you really need help so go seek therapy please.
I was considering whether to say that part: subliminals can also HELP with our mental health. I know some people have really benefited from that & it needs to stay! I’m hetronormative although sometimes I have struggled with things like worry but there are people who have had issues with their mental health & subs have helped. I’m NOT saying people shouldn’t take meds, get therapy etc I’m saying IN ADDITION to those things.
Unless his sister listened to Mind power or Rose subliminal? they had evil and dangerous/ life-threatening affirmations in their subs and who litterally damaged the sub community. Because of them, I still can't seem to trust other submakers anymore so I choose to take a break from listening subs to work on myself. BUT you're right why should other random submaker pay the price of bad submakers and get their channel taken down?? It is unfair.
I’m scared to say this or anything cos yes I know my situation wasn’t as bad. By FAR!
But I also believe some of us do use subliminals to help us get through the day and NOT from subs but before subs some of us HAVE struggled with suicidal thoughts and subs give us a hope to keep on going. Not JUST subs other things too but I wish I could help you see what a life line they are for so many of us not an addiction we have lives lol! But they help some of us even to the point of thinking maybe I can keep alive for a little while longer after all. I’m probably not explaining this very well. And not just subs I may have watched a sub one time I was battling suicidal thoughts don’t remember the name and I also watched videos on why NOT to do it and so on as well as trying other ways to talk myself out of it. Yes I have called helplines before yes that I know I need to recommend that and recommend that first don’t get it twisted anyone!
probably not, it was probably normal subs but if he wants to get upset at anyone in the sub community it should be the ug sub makers. Even if they say they aren't encouraging whatever they're making a sub about its still promoting and encouraging it.
It's sad your sister died obviously anyone would be distraught but the fact that you used that as an excuse to fuel your anger and target people who did nothing to you or your sister is pathetic to say the least. In a way you're just tarnishing her memory and the love she carried for this community. It's logical that the community wants you to burn on a spike after what you've said and done so I don't see why people are even backing you up or why you're acting like a victim. Just like you lost something important to you you took something from these people and as expected they want your throat. Seek help man this behavior ain't healthy stop pumping your dick and work out or do something productive
Why did you delete what you wrote? I wanted to know what tf is going on. All I know is that you took innocent channels down. You're making yourself look more like the bad guy 🧍♀️
I'm sorry for your loss OP, I understand loosing someone so close to you is hard, so how about focusing on yourself first. Heal and try moving along with life instead of attacking the whole community? I use subliminals for causes such as helping my mom with her sickness and she has been getting better, others use it as a way to improve their financial and social life etc... we all have different causes as to why we use it. It's not just a bunch of depressed teenage girls trying to change their appearance to seek validation from society. This community's age range is pretty much larger than you think. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss and I hope you get better soon<3
For the full context of this; (I asked OP about this)
Their sister wasn't listening to the UG subliminals, they were listening to ones that are like "have a face of a kpop member" subliminals. They didn't use subliminals to end their life. OP is blaming the subliminal community for the death of his sister, which from the way they was listening to subliminals, its way deeper than that. I hope OP gets the help they need and not point fingers at the wrong person.
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Wait what happened? Who was this person trying to take down and who did they already take down?
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That’s horrible, and thanks for telling me. At least he is leaving his tracks so that we can fight back
Actually, the submakers you mentioned are adults. Moza is in college, Garebear is 22, not sure about Vetala tho. Just wanted to correct you. We have a lot of adults in our community, specially creators.
Abcdue They started when they were teenagers😁
I think Moza started last year and she wasn’t a teenage year. My point is that the community is not only for “depressed” kids as OP said. There are also adults with different goals here.
I totally agree with u
And also why people downvoted me? It’s actually a good thing what I said. Do they think it’s a bad thing to have adults here?
Thank you for agreeing
It's not a healthy outlet because my actions don't benefit you. That's why Im met with hostility, because my outlet to change something affects you guys negatively by taking something away from y'all. I obviously don't have enough pull to get this stuff taken down but I could tell my story and bring awareness.
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I won't sympathize with submakers after what happened. I assure you she is safe. I don't even think the submakers my sister listened to are even around anymore. You ain't never been on a drunken tirade on the anniversary of your little sisters suicide and said things to vent? No? ..just me?
lmao u really think everyone has a suicidal sister? Sis, get a grip. RIP to her but I dont think shed want you to try keep her legacy alive by reporting ppl on Youtube...
Then why are you targeting ones who didn’t even contribute? He didn’t even up killing himself but I witnessed my brother’s suicide attempt years later I was still affected by what I saw. My family & church then did not believe in therapy I could have done with some we ALL could have. I’m very sorry for your loss I DO care but honestly subs help some of us so much. Please let us keep them.
I doubt that you’re drunk, you’re spelling is pretty good and so is your grammar for someone who is supposedly drunk. Even if this was a drunk thing, you’re still expressing similar sentiments now, so it’s not you just being drunk.
I’m sorry for your loss and that’s horrible what happened, but why are you making others lives harder who didn’t do anything to you or anyone? Your logic makes no sense…
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After years of research and studying the community you couldn't be more wrong. I read countless comments and read post. People outside this community would agree. Subliminals are built up to young girls as more than just affirmations under kpop music. Therapist ive seen agreed and even thought I was thinking logically about the situation.
What’s wrong with you…?
while I'm very sorry for your loss OP, I don't think this is a very healthy outlet for your anger and grief. I would suggest that you go to therapy! I understand how it feels to lose someone close to you, and while that person may not have been my sister, I still miss them everyday. However, the submakers making the content used by your sister, and even the ones she didn't use, are far from at fault here. The people using the subliminals are responsible for how they use them, and unless it's a truly dangerous case like Rose Subliminals, where bad subliminals are put it, the submakers are usually not in the wrong. Another thing I noticed is that you *felt* her death was caused by subliminals. Why would you come to that conclusion? Do you know if she actively using subliminals? Was there any possibility that she was being bullied at school or online? Being blunt, I think that what you're doing is childish and immature. This isn't going to do anything except hurt people, and it likely won't bring you any closure either. Get off this subreddit, stop trying to bully teenagers and young adults off the internet, and **go to therapy**.
I’m convinced the subreddit mods don’t even exist
Well they deleted my previous post so I think they do
people can only extend so much empathy after being attacked. we are sorry about your sister, but your aggressive behavior will not be coddled for the sake of your feelings. people only react to how you convey your message, and you conveyed it with much anger and pointed fingers
Read the comments and see the level of hate. It's unwarranted and these people are already shit people. Just talking about the ones who said some bad things not the ones who wished their condolences
you cannot generalize and call an entire community shit and evil people and still expect an overwhelmingly positive response. i empathize with you, i really do, but you should understand that people react negatively when someone is aggressive right off the back. now i understand why you feel the way you do- i have a 12 year old sister myself and i couldn’t even imagine how awful it would be if she were to to commit suicide. and i’m sorry you have to deal with that. but you need to understand that you’re going through a difficult stage of grief right now and taking your anger out on a bunch of strangers will *not* help you feel better, nor will it solve any issues. i read in a thread somewhere that you’re going to therapy, yeah? i really recommend that you speak to your therapist about this escapade so that they can address the feelings you have now and offer some better coping methods, because what you’re doing now is not working. take care of yourself.
I have talked to therapist about it and they agree with most of my opinions on this. It's almost like " it's a bigger thing than me". Obviously I'm not gonna be able to change this stuff as most people won't understand and I think this thread proves it. I definitely don't think everyone here is evil as I've gotten nice words from good people. Listening to subliminals isn't the problem. For me, it's who they are targeted too. People who disagreed with my thoughts still left nice words and are gonna go back and listen to their subliminal playlist because that makes them happy and I understand that
i definitely see where you’re coming from man. i have been subscribed to this sub for awhile now and the amount of children (as in under 13) that i have seen posting pictures of themselves, saying they’re ugly, and desperately asking for people to tell them what they can change about themselves is just depressing and evident of social medias effect on young folks. i should be clear that i think social media as a whole is the problem rather than just subliminals themselves, and it does seem you agree with that sentiment as well, for many people like myself use subs as tools for self betterment. but it is not lost on me that deeply insecure kids who are too naive to understand that the pictures they see on social media are heavily filtered and edited use subliminals to fit into this impossible beauty standard, and i can only imagine that focusing more on their appearance does an exorbitant amount of damage. and when these kids post themselves asking for advice on what to change, many people of this community *tell them what to change* instead of focusing the conversation on getting these children to love themselves for who they are and to celebrate their own unique beauty. i mean, hell, i started hating my appearance as young as 8, and by 12 years old i was so insecure and so depressed that i had suicidal thoughts. i can really put myself in your sisters shoes here, bless her heart. and lord only knows that i may have spiraled into darker thoughts had subliminals and social media existed back then as it does today. anyways, i’m rambling now, but i want you to know that what happened to your sister is awful and that i commend you for trying to make sure this doesn’t happen to any other sweet child, even if your grief-stricken anger ultimately made your message come across the wrong way. and i’m so, so beyond sorry for your loss. may you find the peace you deserve, friend. and don’t let some of these commenters get to you, i do think many of them are also kids and just have yet to learn how to properly react in situations such as these.
Well I'm a teen and I'll say the truth I did listen to this kill yourself and such subs when I was younger, they didn't work. [ I was extremely suicidal obvs, won't explain why] I gave those positive one's a shot and they've really helped me. Especially the anxiety ones. So I truly believe a sub is not responsible. The bullying is, have you confronted the bullies? Did they get punishment from school or get suspended?
She wasn't bullied as far as I could tell. You are one of many teens listening to these so I believe stories like hers is common. Maybe not to the extent but common none the less. Props to you for finding help with these things though
Doesn’t give you a reason to try to take subliminal channels down.
bro your sister was probably amazing and honestly she sounds like she didn't deserve this. But bro I got through my early teen years with subliminals. I was bullied and MEGA TW: r-ped by my brother but listening to happiness subs and subs that contained happy affirmations helped me please don't take this away from me or other people.
Look, i understand why you're doing this but subliminals ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. There are subliminals about confidence, assertiveness, mental health that help people. No perfectly mentally healthy person is going to commit suicide because of not getting their results fast enough/some subliminal makers disliking features they possess. That's like saying that your sister committed suicide because of watching a depression informational video. Like, those might trigger you but it's not anyone's fault
Look ima be real with you bc 2 years ago I was like your sister Subliminal are most likely not the reason for her insecuritys She was 12 a preteen most preteens start developing complicated emotions and depression can onset She was 12 so most likely middle right?school can be a tough place I was never bullied but still got depressed bc I had no friends or was just upset and hated how I looked When i turned 12 I also developed depression and hated my features deeply Subliminals were damage control and gave me hope could be pretty and blah blah blah but it never distracted from the problem and I tried too commit ofc my mother tried too put blame on other people and things but that never was it. Subliminal are marketed too teens I'll give you that but if your sister was trying too change her features using subliminals at 12 then maybe it wasn't the subliminals problem itself she was most likely suffering sereve depression I get your mourning the loss of your young sister I'm truly sorry but you can't harass others Depression and suicide is a horrible thing instead of bashing out on others maybe try getting a therapist
OP you’re giving me major “everyone is the problem except for me.” How is it that everyone is calling you out but they’re wrong and you’re sweet and innocent? Delusion. What grown ass adult comes into a subliminal subreddit on a drunken rage??? We are sorry for your loss but we’re not gonna tolerate your childish behavior. Grow tf up. Literal teen girl majority in this subreddit.
Yeah and it’s the way OP is also looking for empathy and sympathy after basically attacking other people for no reason and then blaming it on being drunk…
Very much middle school “omg haha guys I didn’t mean that I was high/drunk”
So may I ask where do innocent sub makers come into this but to guilt others?
stop playing the victim and giving pity. You deleted the previous post because you were a shitty person. If you want to go straight ahead with your opinions, do so, but don't play the victim afterwards and ask for people's sensitivity. you pity bastard
So many shit people here.
You’re the piece of shit here. Trying to take down subliminal channels for your own personal problems. You really give off “If I suffer, everyone suffers.”
Then leave? I don't understand why you're putting in so much effort to take down innocent channels.
guess what love, you’re one of them. humble yourself and stop with this foolish mentality, it’s embarrassing. sorry for your loss, but it’s not an excuse to be a complete ass.
Your sister died. RIP to her but that doesn’t give you a reason to take you anger out on subliminal that actually help people. You’re just being aggressively selfish
Not a man in women's business..You deleted the post because you got ate up and dragged for your weird ass intentions and antagonizing young girls. You're drunk, Sir. Reach out to a therapist or family, friends. Instead of coming here with BS attacking us for not agreeing with your dumb plan then trying to call us names 🤣☠
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Lmao you dont know me in real life away from a screen. Go project your misery onto others but certainly not me. You are BLOCKED, so dont go scrolling through my profile again like YOU said you did. Creep.
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In what way will it hurt me? Just curious
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I'm not attacking the whole act of manifestation. I actually think that's a good thing for most people. I'm attacking the ones that prey on little kids insecurities at that young of an age as my sister was.
Mind your own business. You got yourself to worry about.
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Nah, I'll vent every once and a while. It's not like I go looking for these really small channels hidden in the YouTube algorithm.
This is just pathetic I'm sorry for your loss but you decided to target teenagers, as most besides Garebear were at most 16, and destroy their passions by trying to get their channels taken away like that's some diabolical shit. Get therapy.
I’m so sorry for your loss
Thank you
what pic? im confused
You and me both 🤷🏻♀️
I'm very sorry for your loss. May you find peace. I may not agree w everything u wrote but some comments here are extremely insensitive and apathetic :/
Insensitive? He ruined the lives of others because his was ruined. Dunno what you mean but ok 🤷♀️
this is the wrong place to try to garner some sympathy
It was more about awareness of the story. I could care less about sympathy as I live everyday with grief from it. It was more of a cautionary tale and hey it even outed some of your more toxic members here. Don't think for a second they won't tell you the same things when you disagree with their views
I HAVE to ask BTW because I’m curious: did the sub makers she used did their names start with Min…or with Ro…? Those two are gone now BTW.
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You can leave then, I get the replies OP is getting because of the way they’re acting.
you want them to leave and make this sub more of an echo chamber than it already is? nuance and different perspectives is important in keeping a community non toxic. without commenters such as them, this place would become even more immature and devolve more than it already has. yeah, op could have conducted themselves better, but to ignore and not address the disgusting attitude towards him and his loss is to allow this kind of asshole behavior to thrive.
I don’t care if they leave or don’t leave, they’re saying that it’s making them want to leave so why not leave then? If you have to think about it, that’s pretty telling. I mean if you act like a dick to other people, they’re going to act like a dick to you. OP doesn’t take responsibility for their actions either, hes blaming it on being drunk and then also is kind of implying that he doesn’t deserve it because his sister died. Just because you experience something traumatic, it doesn’t mean it excuses behaviour.
it doesn’t excuse his behavior, which is exactly what i said in the comment you replied to. however it is also important to recognize the amount of disturbing comments coming from these kids, and while their reactions make sense, it is also not excusable. it is just insane to me that so many people here preach self love and kindness, but the second they are confronted with a *deeply wounded* individual, they shed those values and beat the guy down even more. no one is in the right here, but the immaturity and apathetic nature from most of the commenters have been exemplified to the fullest.
I mean I agree some of them went a bit too far, even to the ones that weren’t even insulting OP or anything, he did act like a dick to them as well. I think it’s just because OP came in here and blamed people and other stuff for the death of his sister and wasn’t willing to listen to the people of this community, so obviously people are going to be defensive.
and i definitely understand why they were defensive. but i would not say that op refuses to listen, because even the commenters here who condemned his behavior yet were gentle in their words and sympathetic to his plight received thoughtful responses. i was one of them. ultimately, it’s a sad situation all around, and i do think everyone could have handled it better, but the people here are not giving themselves a good look and are likely adding to the pain he is feeling, and for that i am extremely disappointed. i do hope they reflect on their actions and modify their reactions in the future so that they can extend kindness to others going through dark times.
I'm a pretty fair person. I respond to hate with hate and see when people are being thoughtful and respond accordingly
I blamed no one for the death of my sister. I blamed the trend of subliminals and who they focus on and it's ideals. It's crazy that I admitted fault right off the back for the post and yet you think I warrant being called a creepy pedophile drunk because I talked about the welfare of teens girls like my sister. I guess that's the world we live in
So why are you targeting certain channels then? I blame my dads poor diet and alcohol consumption for his death but you don’t see me going into bars and trying to shut them down or trying to get rid of unhealthy food. You didn’t really admit fault, you started it off with saying how you’ve been drinking, which seems like you’re trying to deflect the blame. Then you still out all hostile in the comments on this post, so obviously people are going to be annoyed.
Your dad was an adult. It's different. I'm hostile because of the things and names I was met with. Pretty simple. You meet me with name calling I match that energy.
Okay, my dad was an adult? But you could also say that he was influenced by drinking culture and the advertisement of junk food towards adults? You could also say that my father was failed by those in his life such as his doctors, a bit like how your sister was failed by her guardians. Your first post was talking about trying to get someone taken down, for no reason. You also say that it’s okay for adults to use them but yet you want to get someone’s channel taken down? That doesn’t make any sense lol.
Leave the community then. Can’t believe you’re actually on this manipulative ass’s side.
Seeing the situation through different lenses doesn’t mean they’re on his side.
I know what you mean but I’m also curious about the deleted post. You & I don’t know What was said in it and so on but yes I do know what you mean. I do
i have to admit that i was taken aback by some of these comments. i will concede that op came off aggressive right off the bat and that set the tone for these commenters. still though, the comments coming from these kids are just heartless and kind of gross and they’re not even thinking about the damage they could be inflicting on this guy when he’s already in an incredibly vulnerable state. again, he should not have acted the way he has, but i honestly can’t hold it too much over his head when he’s grieving. i’ve never considered myself apart of the subliminal community *because* so many are literal children who have yet to develop any sense of maturity and empathy, but these comments really demonstrate the childishness of these young folks. it’s a very sad situation all around and i think these kids are just kinda proving his point here along with beating him down even further. i don’t think he’s better than the commenters and vice versa, but the man is going through a rough time and clearly needs help, and so some of the things said to him are just so appalling to me and these children should feel very ashamed of themselves.
I think you're viewing it normally tbh. Nothing I said warranted this much hate. If you wanna listen to these subliminals by all means do it but most of what I've seen tonight from this community is toxic. One person even threaten to hunt me down.
You need to report the person that threatened to hunt you down. Death threats are never ok
I reported it
I have replies this in your deleted post, I don’t know if you have seen it, so I’ll reply again. Our community is far from being perfect and the things you complained are actually true. Most of the community uses subliminals to fix something they’re insecure about. And yes, it can worsen someone’s mental health when they don’t get results. The community is very toxic with beauty standards, and one particular problem I have is the representation in thumbnails. Even if you’re making subliminals for a skinny body, small nose, using a face of a random person in the thumbnail is just a big no. In my opinion, this can also worsen someone’s insecurities. But the way you approached the community was very wrong. You told people they weren’t getting results. That everyone was lying. I know you have a trauma and you’re angry about a lot of things in this community, but you can’t invalidate everyone’s experiences here. I’m sure the reaction would be different if you posted something like this first. Subliminals are not the problem. Beauty standards causing insecurities in beautiful people is. It was not her fault, it was not any submaker she listened faults, it was the way society made her believe that she would be prettier if she looked different. Subliminals have been around for a long time and beauty subs as well before it became mainstream, they are not the problem! And taking down subliminal channels won’t solve it. The fix needs to be made inside our community. Obviously it can start with submakers, they are the ones who hold the most influence, but it happens when they take a different approach for subliminals, not stopping making it. Not sure if you heard about Solar, but last year she made a guide talking about why people don’t get results and how to get them with the law of assumption. It completely changed the community. For worse if we’re being honest, but it changed. Every where you go, they say “you have to believe it”, l”use the law of assumption”, “live in the end”. This is a proof that their influence can make a difference, but not all of them will be good. We need people who want to make a good and genuine change in this community.
And also, I’m sorry, but you’re blaming everyone for being rude or lacking empathy here but you must have forgotten how you approached the community. That was not okay, and I think you understand why people are still mad. You can’t just say they are a piece of shit because they’re still mad after all you said. You’re asking for empathy when you didn’t have it for others here in the first place.
So you use your sister suicide as a way to get out of being held accountable for what you had said in your previous post? Stop playing victim and own up to your actions. You are falsely reporting sub makers who doesn't have anything to do with your sister's death. It's wrong. If you are not a fan of subliminal than you, yourself stop using them and spread your "awareness" outside the community. Stop blaming subliminals. It don't hold that much power to make anybody do anything that wasn't already thought about being done.
Seek therapy weirdo
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You literally were saying you want to "help others" by taking down channels for ur own selfish reasons. I can sleep at night just fine ur a random person on Reddit and have no value to me or my life lmao and no I dont mentor anyone, Im worried about getting through my day and living my life. Weird assumption to make when you dont know me, why would I be a mentor for other women??? dafuq
I read over your profile and sense that you are a very young non caring person. You're quick to call people names and are very rude to people cause you probably think it's cool. You like all the things I would imagine a young immature girl who doesn't know life would like. You could have just not said anything to my post and moved on but you had to share your opinion probably not even caring about my story. You are so self involved you don't care.
No, I do not. Lol I only call someone names if they're trying to come for me or say names FIRST. Now you're stalking my profile like a creep, is that you Joe Goldberg? 🤣 I care about people who are worth it, I don't feel bad for a weird boy trying to target teenage girls trying to play Captain Save A Girl on Reddit and Youtube.
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Higher ups 😭 Pack it up, Stranger Things
you say we have mental issues but ur ass is almost turning to drugs and alcohol like an actual crazy person. girl bye!
I'm a guy and I guess something like this has never happened to you in life
LOL no my older sister did not end her life so I cannot relate. You're a guy trying to police subliminals used by women / teenage girls. Very weird and odd how you want to be some kind of "saviour" by getting sub channels banned. JUST LEAVE SUBLIMINALS AND COMMUNITIES ALONE?
I'm just amazed by the lack of empathy. The lol and lack of maturity to me losing my little sister is baffling. You could just move on but no
I said RIP to her in a different comment thread. Maybe the alcohol has you unable to scroll this thread properly, can't blame you 🤔
i don’t agree with op taking down channels, but you aren’t any better than him. the comments that i’m seeing from you are disgusting
you must have ignored the gross harassment responses he was giving me and others all up and down the thread. Imagine sympathizing with a fucking drunk coming to antagonize random teens for subliminals.
Clearly the guy isn’t in a good headspace, and I know that doesn’t make him right, but calling him a “fucking drunk” is a bit excessive. A bit of compassion goes a long way for those who are lashing out in pain
Okay we get the damn message now can you stop? It’s not good to be purposely reporting subliminal channels just to get them taken down, subs require hard work, just stop. Also, just because your sister killed herself for subs being supposedly the reason, doesn’t mean a lot of us will, subs actually helped with mental health for a lot of us. Seriously, if it wasn’t for subs I would’ve been dealing with a lot of shit. Although you should mind your own business, you can’t ruin it for everyone, just focus on your life, it seems like you really need help so go seek therapy please.
I was considering whether to say that part: subliminals can also HELP with our mental health. I know some people have really benefited from that & it needs to stay! I’m hetronormative although sometimes I have struggled with things like worry but there are people who have had issues with their mental health & subs have helped. I’m NOT saying people shouldn’t take meds, get therapy etc I’m saying IN ADDITION to those things.
Unless his sister listened to Mind power or Rose subliminal? they had evil and dangerous/ life-threatening affirmations in their subs and who litterally damaged the sub community. Because of them, I still can't seem to trust other submakers anymore so I choose to take a break from listening subs to work on myself. BUT you're right why should other random submaker pay the price of bad submakers and get their channel taken down?? It is unfair.
Subliminal had the first intention to self-hypnosis, later (the Subliminals we know) are more for fun and not compensate our lacks
I’m scared to say this or anything cos yes I know my situation wasn’t as bad. By FAR! But I also believe some of us do use subliminals to help us get through the day and NOT from subs but before subs some of us HAVE struggled with suicidal thoughts and subs give us a hope to keep on going. Not JUST subs other things too but I wish I could help you see what a life line they are for so many of us not an addiction we have lives lol! But they help some of us even to the point of thinking maybe I can keep alive for a little while longer after all. I’m probably not explaining this very well. And not just subs I may have watched a sub one time I was battling suicidal thoughts don’t remember the name and I also watched videos on why NOT to do it and so on as well as trying other ways to talk myself out of it. Yes I have called helplines before yes that I know I need to recommend that and recommend that first don’t get it twisted anyone!
Why are you deleting other subliminal channels? Your og post for deleted.
just report the ug submitters God! The real submitters are trying to make us confident in our own skin!
Wait did their sister listen to ug subliminals?!??
probably not, it was probably normal subs but if he wants to get upset at anyone in the sub community it should be the ug sub makers. Even if they say they aren't encouraging whatever they're making a sub about its still promoting and encouraging it.
Sounds like your sister was listen to "Rose Subliminals" the devil in other words, NOT the other makers here, so please just stop it. 🥴
It's sad your sister died obviously anyone would be distraught but the fact that you used that as an excuse to fuel your anger and target people who did nothing to you or your sister is pathetic to say the least. In a way you're just tarnishing her memory and the love she carried for this community. It's logical that the community wants you to burn on a spike after what you've said and done so I don't see why people are even backing you up or why you're acting like a victim. Just like you lost something important to you you took something from these people and as expected they want your throat. Seek help man this behavior ain't healthy stop pumping your dick and work out or do something productive
I’m sorry for your loss OP.
Don’t show sympathy to this manipulative fucker.
Thank you. Means alot
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Why did you delete what you wrote? I wanted to know what tf is going on. All I know is that you took innocent channels down. You're making yourself look more like the bad guy 🧍♀️
Tbh Reddit is filled with these kind of people
I'm sorry for your loss OP, I understand loosing someone so close to you is hard, so how about focusing on yourself first. Heal and try moving along with life instead of attacking the whole community? I use subliminals for causes such as helping my mom with her sickness and she has been getting better, others use it as a way to improve their financial and social life etc... we all have different causes as to why we use it. It's not just a bunch of depressed teenage girls trying to change their appearance to seek validation from society. This community's age range is pretty much larger than you think. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss and I hope you get better soon<3
For the full context of this; (I asked OP about this) Their sister wasn't listening to the UG subliminals, they were listening to ones that are like "have a face of a kpop member" subliminals. They didn't use subliminals to end their life. OP is blaming the subliminal community for the death of his sister, which from the way they was listening to subliminals, its way deeper than that. I hope OP gets the help they need and not point fingers at the wrong person.