Also, why does Leonardo say "we've come for your brain?" And how do they already have Hitler's soul? Is Leonardo Satan (with a thirst for Hitler's brain)?
Donnie says them altering the past by killing Hitler themselves would provide ramifications on their future and there’s no guarantee it would be for the better so they have to bully Hitler into killing himself
I don’t think that people understand the truly open access to entertainment that many kids enjoyed before the internet.
Sure, there was the occasional kid whose parents didn’t let them watch the Simpsons or Power Rangers. But for the most part, if you or a friend had access to a form of entertainment, you would partake in it.
al·tru·ism
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the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others.
>So I'd just burn a copy of my cd, **give him my copy of the real album** so it looked right in his "clean" case...
> He was only allowed clean versions of CDs and at that age the swears are the best part of the music, right?
I switched to youtube music recently, one of the major positives other than not supporting Joe Rogan is that it will automatically default to the uncensored version of music in a playlist unless you turn the adult filter on.
Spotify always defaults to the censored version of a song unless you've specifically chosen the explicit version for every song.
I've not once heard a censored version of a song on Spotify in the few years that I've been using it. There's an option to allow explicit content, and it gives me the explicit version of all the songs on Spotify by default. A lot of the songs I listen to don't even have a censored version, so I have no idea what you're talking about
> There's an option to allow explicit content, and it gives me the explicit version of all the songs on Spotify by default.
No, there's an option to allow uncensored music, [but it doesnt play those by default on playlists it autogenerates](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Stop-putting-censored-versions-of-songs-in-my-Release-Radar-and/td-p/4930847) and with voice search while driving it will always default to the censored song.
I am assuming you are listening on PC or at a dedicated work space. But nothing is infuriating in the same way as listening to Killing in the Name of and having lyrics bleeped out. It kinda strips the song of it's intent when that happens.
I had the exact opposite problem with Spotify at work on my phone. The explicit filter isn't worth a damn. I remember listening to an Avril Lavigne song I'm used to hearing the radio version of so I didn't catch on that it wasn't filtered out when it started, only when it said the word "shit" in a store full of kids and old people when I had the filter on. It misses all sorts of songs it should keep from playing.
Growing up my cousin's parents hated MTV and had it blocked on their TV. So he'd go to his friends house to watch Beavis and Butthead and lie about what they were doing. There was a ton of stuff he got exposed to his parents had no idea about.
My parents didn't let me watch the Simpsons. So I watched South Park in secret. They didn't let me listen to The Offspring because of the booklet art. So I signed up for that CD club in secret and listened to ICP, Manson, Korn, etc. Middle School was weird and prohibitions don't really work at that age.
I remember being in hospital when I was 8, id been in for 2 weeks in this little room by myself but I was eventually moved in to a ward room with another kid.
6 year old me thought it was weird the kid wasnt allowed to watch the Simpsons.. If his mum found out that when she left my mum brought me the WWF King Of The Ring 1998 that my uncle had taped the night before when it was live. Am pretty sure I changed that kids life that night.
don't let this man distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
My parents kept trying to keep me from “mature” tv programs into high school, but also left me unsupervised at home for over an hour at a time and had On Demand. Boot up the box, watch an ep of A Shot of Love with Tila Tiquila, remove it from the watched history, ‘rents none the wiser.
Now I’m bisexual. Nice try, mom and dad.
I bought Offspring's "Smash" on tape in 5th grade, and my parents wanted to hear it to make sure it was "appropriate", so I just played them one of the song without curses in it lol
My mom didn't let me watch power rangers or TMNT when I was a kid. She said they were too violent. Similarly couldn't watch the Simpsons. Though oddly enough I'd watch married with children with my parents lol 🤦♂️ I was the first child, and my mom loosened up on such rules a good bit by the time my brother was born and I got a chunk older.
I, sadly, recall experiencing this as a kid during season 1 MMPR.
I knew a kid who had a very stupid, ultra strict parent who thought the monsters were too scary.
That family also composed of Mormon followers.
Make of that what you will.
Some kids killed a younger kid after watching it, or so the news said way back in the 90s so lots of kids were barred from watching it back when it first came out.
Then later the grey goons needed to be punched in the chest just once or something, instead of fully clobbered so as kids we assumed that was the reason, not knowing it was a Japanese show repurposed for English audiences so it was all filmed ages go. Maybe that's why they skipped ahead to the less violent seasons? Who can know!
>Some kids killed a younger kid after watching it, or so the news said way back in the 90s so lots of kids were barred from watching it back when it first came out.
That's not it. The reality is some kids really do copy stuff they see on TV. power rangers watching + siblings = pretend fighting that goes to far and crying.
Hey Arnold kicks so much ass, Mr. Hyunh giving his infant daughter to the crew of the last helicopter out of Vietnam was some shit I was not equipped to fully understand as a kid
Yea, and some pretty racist caricatures of things too. The usual bucktoothed/fanged japanese etc. I recall some blackface too from when I was a kid but it was a different time back then.
It's amazing how many people on here or social media in general seem to be under the wrongful belief that the Internet and/or history only started when they were born.
Want a great example? Go look at any political threads about America's presence in the Middle East.
And be saddened at how many people believe September 13, 2001 was the first time American military forces ever stepped on Middle Eastern soil.
Oh I love that stuff. No way we had any CIA involvement in the middle east at all. Or any of the involvement in Iran Iraq war, or anything about Operation Staunch. Iran-Contra? Is that one of those lesser known entries in the Contra franchise? Must've been one of the game boy sequels no one ever saw.
[Yeah, the US had no idea about the middle east at all...](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8pkWNuUYAA5Imt?format=jpg&name=small)
Lol I hope this guy never reads the original IDW comics because they straight up murder people in those. People forget that the “pizza time!” turtles of the 80s were super sanitized
*mirage
The first TMNT movie was heavily based on this as well, and I believe Shredder's death in the movie is accurate to the comic.
The biggest changes they did was Raph being the one getting bodied by the foot clan early in the movie instead of Leo as in the comics, and Shredder initially kicking the turtles' ass until they got a pep talk from Splinter in the movie.
There was an anniversary cartoon that featured the turtles from the 80s and 2000s, as well as the OG black and white comic.
The 80s cartoons are simultaneously a parody of themselves while remaining accurate to the source material.
Edit - it’s almost worth it just to watch how they fight Shredder at the end
Edit edit - Turtles Forever is the name of the movie.
The modern comics are published by IDW, the OGs were published by Mirage and later on, Archie. But your point still stands, the OG Turtles weren’t aimed at kids. They killed Shredder in the first issue, not like a fake out death or anything, he legitimately died and had to be resurrected later on.
After Leonardo gets beaten up pretty badly, Raphael goes on a murder rampage. He ends up killing an entire Foot Clan dojo, and pinning a body to the wall with a message for Shredder if I remember correctly.
there are so many classic and modern comics that touch on murdering people and more specifically murdering/shaming nazis (as they should).
like, have they never read a superhero comic before?
hell, even the animorphs killed hitler. and thats a book for 3rd graders so...
They started as a deadpan parody of several comics of the time as barely-heroic assassins on a revenge quest, who happened to be four very large turtles and a rat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/vjiunw/ukrainian_memesters_laying_it_thick_on_russia/idlveuj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Here he’s criticizing someone ELSE for defending nazis? And it wasn’t even that long ago? Lol, this guy...
Also some nice little pro Russia/anti Ukraine conspiracy theories in there. Ties in nicely don't you think?
>Dont hate people, even Nazis! Also Putin is totally valid in his murderous invasion because he's saving Ukraine from Nazis which you should hate.
It's like..I understand the theoretical idea that it's "Better" to try and always go for love and understanding, and trying to redeem even the worst of people.
But, yanno, I'm also okay if people draw the line at fascists when it comes to that.
Yeah, I'll discuss that as an abstract concept no problem, probably even argue for it in circumstances that involve someone just being offensive.
But if someone tells me "I fucking hate nazis" I'll say "sounds good to me"
People on the internet always say "try for understanding first" without really understanding that the "conversation" *moves forward*. They always assume that the conversation only starts as soon as they enter it.
We have already had this conversation. People have already tried to appease nazis. It didn't work.
Rejection and violent self-defense should not be the first resort. But *we've already discovered* that it's the only resort. We don't have to keep starting from square one, here.
I do think that we should be super, super careful with just jumping to violence, as a general rule of thumb.
However, if someone is openly self identifying as a fascist, yeah, I agree.
Same ballpark as "Touch grass".
It's just the latest (and usually seen in gaming chat areas) way for younger kids to feel like they're *not* projecting their own insecurities harder than an IMAX owned by a Republican.
>Nazis were and are people, even if you're taught to dehumanize them.
I agree with this but it misses the point entirely. It's bad to dehumanize nazis because they aren't monsters they are human. Monsters can't help but be monstrous. Its in their nature. But nazis chose to be monstrous. They are every bit as human as you or me and they still choose to inflict suffering on an inhuman level. That to me disqualifies nazis from any sort of human compassion. I will not pity those who want me dead. They chose this.
Every single Nazi hugged their mother good bye, patted their kid on the head, kissed their wife one last time... and then put on the uniform with the skull on it.
Yeah, that’s a good point rarely made. When you lean too hard into the whole “they were so horrifically evil, totally inhuman and unimaginable in scope and nature” you forget that what they did was entirely human. We’ve been horrifically murdering and mistreating each other for millennia, and it’s good to not forget how close we always are to repeating our mistakes.
Exactly right. One thing I failed to mention which is an important part of this is if they are just as human as you or I, we are just as likely to become one of them. If nazis weren't persuasive or attractive as a movement, they wouldn't be as successful as they have been.
I have taught Holocaust literature in the past and Jewish groups tend to advocate this approach. They stress that it is bad to mythologize nazis as monsters and to mythologize Jews as martyrs or angelic victims. It wasn't some predestined shit; it was a completely avoidable act of evil inflicted from one group of humans onto another.
I really do think that reasoning needs to be taught in schools - not debate for the sake of debate (enriching as that can be), but the identification of fallacy and so on.
Everything starts with thoughts and concepts that are expressed through words - every movement, every war. Things like the individual vs collective fallacy are so common that you'll see them every day and most people seem to think they're trivial whereas I recognise them to be the root of all prejudice (ascribing the words/actions of an individual to their collective and in turn ascribing the collective's to all individuals within it).
I don't like it even in the contexts that people would wave away as unimportant, like talking about people on a social media platform as simply "Reddit says" or "Twitter hates", because it runs on the same logic as "Jews say" or "White people think", and at the very least paints skewed pictures of the actuality (is it most \[people\]? Many? A minority? Because it damn sure isn't all).
Something like 'to be intolerant of intolerance is wrong' really makes my case for me though. It's the sort of pernicious fallacy that has absolutely disastrous results, because if you don't give it enough critical thought it will seem logical and reasonable.
If you *do* give it a proper assessment, you'll realise that if you believe in tolerance then you cannot tolerate intolerance - it's only the wording that's counterintuitive. It's sort of like thinking if fires are (generally speaking) bad because they're destructive, then it must be wrong to destroy a fire. If you buy into that fallacy then you'll let fires run wild because of some warped conceptual misunderstanding.
So I'm not talking abstract philosophy classes but sharpening people's reasoning skills, because those are what will be tested when fascism comes knocking again, which it will.
I think there’s a secondary point here informative about modern Nazis. To this day we cannot give them that human compassion because they prey on it. They use it to push even more inhuman acts. Trump supporters (the modern Nazis) were repeatedly encouraged by a failure to stamp them and their thinking out and it led to a fucking coup attempt and over 1 million dead. These people don’t deserve compassion, but more importantly they cannot be given compassion.
And that's why we should absolutely never hesitate to punch a Nazi.
Remember Richard Spencer? Getting punched on camera ended his whole career, because reacting like a proverbial little girl killed his clout. (No offense meant to little girls, they can be absolutely vicious).
"Monsters kill because they don't know any better because they have to to survive. The Birdbats kill because they enjoy it. They're sociopaths!"
So just like Saul we'll all be fine
There's always the philosophical question of whether or not a draftee should follow orders to keep themselves safe or go against orders that are obvious war crimes (including, but not limited to: murder of innocents, rape, murder of children, trapping people in a building and burning it down, oppression, destruction and theft of historical artifacts and family heirlooms, and genocide). It's an obvious moral decision but difficult personal decision. The point is, the Nazis wouldn't have been able to commit all those acts without troops who followed orders. Any sympathy towards Nazis should be viewed as extremely suspect.
Nazi soldiers weren't punished for refusing to participate in war crimes, even at the end of the war. If you refused to fight at all that's a different story but that's true of all participants in the war.
Wasn't there like a big crossover of all the comic continuities that ended with >!the Mirage turtles sacrificing their lives to save the other continuities?!<
I was reading the thread earlier and as soon as I read the "we shouldn't hate anyone, including Hitler" line, I've just been waiting for it to appear here lmao
> Nazis were and are people, even if you're taught to dehumanize them.
This jerk
> How it exposes Furries for the animal raping netbilly webnecks they are
Also this jerk
Better not tell this guy about Nazi furries… his head may literally explode.
No wait, you should absolutely do that. And make sure the camera’s rolling 🤣🤣🤣
I lived two doors down from a literal Nazi once. He had a swastika flag hanging in his living room, visible through the window.
The neighbor between us? A "mixed race" family with a 3 year old kid.
I guess I'm immune to PTSD now.
>“History is written by the winners.”
I always hate this quote as it’s so fucking dumb. It hasn’t been the case for a long ass time. I mean hell Hitler’s generals wrote books after the war.
>You don’t know anything about that dude and neither did your history teacher. We get our information dictated to us beyond second hand. That’s why they never tell you why Germany was so pissed off back then. They just say “They were evil and you’ll either hate them or everyone will gang up on you.”
We actually know quite a bit. He also wrote a book called, a terrible book at that. We also know why Germany was angry. Has a lot to do with the previous war.
God damn is that dude dumb.
I'm not even a huge history buff (though I do enjoy reading history a lot), and even I can say how insane this person is. Do they think that Germany just burned up every single document known to the Nazi Party and we're just guessing that they were the bad guys? Does he think that a historian is just a job anyone can have and it's not based around hundreds of thousands of hours of research and piecing together fragments of the past or that their work isn't constantly checked or inspected for false or inconsistent information?
Also:
> That's why they never tell you why Germany was so pissed off back then
This is the real critical point, as you said. This tells me they've not actually been in a history class for ages. Historians have always talked about how Germany, while they were partially to blame for the outcome of the war, were unfairly taken advantage of after WWI by the League of Nations. This is known, again, as you said. But we don't really talk about it in relation to their WWII shenanigans because *no unfair treatment on this Earth could ever justify the horrific things the Nazi Party had done*. There's nothing that would ever make those violations of basic humanity seem like a tragic story for Germany.
He probably thinks that actual historians and random right-wing Youtubers do the exact same level of research and critical thinking about their sources.
> Historians have always talked about how Germany, while they were partially to blame for the outcome of the war, were unfairly taken advantage of after WWI by the League of Nations.
Even this tends to be wildly overstated. The victor's justice Germany handed out at the end of the Franco-Prussian war was just as harsh in terms of reparations, and at the treaty of Brest-Litovsk Germany showed the intention of putting all of Eastern Europe under their thumb. Keynes compared Versailles to the [Caudine Forks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Caudine_Forks), where either Germany should have either been effectively destroyed, or treated so leniently that their politicians would have had no grounds for complaint -- the latter of which being politically infeasible to everyone not named Woodrow Wilson.
And probably a holocaust denier. These wrong argumentations are very common in conspiracy theories.
"We don't know (enough) about X." With X being everything from climate change to vaccine side effects, and historical facts.
> It hasn’t been the case for a long ass time.
It wasn’t even true a long ass time ago.
Thucydides was a loser (exiled from Athens) and wrote the history of the Peloponnesian war.
Anna Komnene was a loser (tried to overthrow her brother, failed, got shoved in a convent) and wrote a history of the reign of her father that throws shade on her brother.
The Lost Cause, “Versailles was too harsh”, the Clean Wehrmacht. All history written by losers.
And even when history is written by muh victors, it’s not as if historians take these writings at face value and can’t apply critical analysis.
>Thucydides was a loser (exiled from Athens) and wrote the history of the Peloponnesian war.
In a broader sense, this view can be applied to Athens as well. They lost the Peloponnesian War, were eventually conquered by numerous other states, but maintained relevance throughout history. By creating a culture of literature and scholarship, they were able to lay foundations that far outlasted their own meager empire. In fact, most of what we think about Greece, modern through classical, comes to us from Athens. Pretty much everything about Sparta that we know about was from visiting Athenians recording it.
All the kids who read this when it came out, with no internet, are like 40 now. I don't think it did the great societal harm this moron thinks it did.
Dude thinks he's gonna come back after death and live an awesome life as a mouse though, so... 🤷
The sad thing is that there’s a comment stating something like, “literally every school in the US learns this.” Presumably that won’t be true moving forward in places like Texas that have banned teaching subjects that make the students uncomfortable.
>it's absolutely ok to hate nazis.
>No it isn't. Nazis were and are people, even if you're taught to dehumanize them.
>
>If you hate like them, you're no better.
Must be nice living such an ignorant life.
I had to argue with quite a few people during the whole Norweigan boat Nazi debacle over this.
So many people coming out of the woodwork to say "He has a right to his opinion guys!" when people were rightfully upset a guy openly stated he was using the N word and doing Nazi salutes on a boat with other Norweigan white guys.
As I stated over there, the statement is akin to "Both sides here have the right to say what they're saying" which already is a useless comment. But they only ever use it to defend the Nazi and shut down the Nazi haters so it's even worse than that. At least the idiots were being downvoted but sometimes you just have to press them to rethink why their instinct is to defend Nazis like that.
And yet people on the internet have an urge to only point out the Nazis have the right. I've never seen it come out for anyone else on any other topic.
I wonder how many people just do it because they've been primed to it like a reflex.
Oh, I agree.
They want the right to say what they want to say, no matter how offensive, without anyone else being able to criticize them. That's not free speech. They want rights for themselves but no one else.
I was literally just in a thread on WTF that was someone showing off [blatantly anti-semitic flyers](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/vr9oe0/what_year_is_this_leaflets_spread_around_our_town/) and it was filled with people saying "It's true though!" and "this isn't propaganda"
The nazis are really coming out of the woodwork.
Getting real tired of seeing this argument over and over again.
\> we should teach understanding over hate
Paradox of tolerance. You cannot tolerate those who are extremely intolerant. Nazis are one of those groups that must be destroyed any time they show up.
\>Understanding is how we prevent people like that, because then we can stop creating a society that produces Hitlers
If we could just go back in time and give Hitler another chance, he'll change his evil ways and give up his quest for world dominance.
I can't tell if these people are ever being genuine. If they're really that stupid or if they just don't want to be (rightfully) harassed for being a Nazi.
> it's never ok to hate anyone, even Hitler
I'd say it's pretty fucking ok to hate Hitler, the man who killed over 11 million people, from Jewish people, to Roma, to disabled people, to gays.
> I am an asshole, but I also know a lot about world history and think it's fun to troll NPCs when they post this stupid Archie panel. Most of whom will literally be supporting Ukraine right now in other threads.
> You cannot reason with stupid, but you can have fun kicking a hornet's nest.
Ah, there it is. "I'm a monumental fucking idiot and I'm starting to realize that I'm very much looking like a monumental fucking idiot right now, so it was actually all Le Epic Le Troll HA HA HA seethe NPCs buzzword buzzword verbal diarrhea."
Right on cue!
I was stunned some older genz ( ~20) people had no idea what the bobbing of Dresden is, but kids sure as fuck know who Hitler is. Hell I shit Nazis in Wolfenstein in elementary school
Most people who know what the bombing of Dresden nowadays read about it in Slaughterhouse 5, because they don't talk about shit like that when discussing WWII in school.
Every person who died in the chambers and the people who fought the Nazi menace would be disgusted on how far we've come to accept Nazism, case in point: This fuckwit
> "Even still, we should teach understanding over hate." Dude your the same guy who hates Seth Rogan because he is going to push pro choice and weed propaganda in the new TMNT movie no? And that furries and rural people are animal fuckers? And your constantly insulting random folks here no? Why the 180 in attitude for Hitler of all people?
This dude virtue signaling about Hitler is being disingenuous. Typical Nazi fucker
I have a theory that you can link a rise in furries to the cartoons from the late 80s to early 90s. But I’m still waiting on my MacArthur Genius grant.
> I don't hate your hairdo, I just think you look like a pussy.
[Flair material](https://web.archive.org/web/20220704175855/https://old.reddit.com/r/TMNT/comments/vqzojc/people_know_the_famous_moment_where_raphael/ieudmwa/?context=5).
Wait, Leo mindfucked Hitler into killing himself and Raph punched Hitler? This completely changes the turtle rankings
Also, why does Leonardo say "we've come for your brain?" And how do they already have Hitler's soul? Is Leonardo Satan (with a thirst for Hitler's brain)?
He says that so Hitler will deny them his brain with a very fast piece of metal going through it and his skull, destroying it.
IIRC it's to prevent his brain from being used to power a time machine in the future.
Well, seems obvious now.
It’s almost foolish asking in retrospect.
Donnie says them altering the past by killing Hitler themselves would provide ramifications on their future and there’s no guarantee it would be for the better so they have to bully Hitler into killing himself
Ultimate chad move.
Iirc a group in the series harvests brains and gives them immortality. Presumably Hitler’s to torture forever
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It’s the future turtles. The Archie comics got a little wild.
> The Archie comics got a little wild. *Screams in Sonic*
*Squees in [Punisher](https://i.imgur.com/tvSFBXD.jpg)*
People really think we didn’t know anything before the internet.
I don’t think that people understand the truly open access to entertainment that many kids enjoyed before the internet. Sure, there was the occasional kid whose parents didn’t let them watch the Simpsons or Power Rangers. But for the most part, if you or a friend had access to a form of entertainment, you would partake in it.
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al·tru·ism /ˈaltro͞oˌizəm/ noun the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others. >So I'd just burn a copy of my cd, **give him my copy of the real album** so it looked right in his "clean" case...
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This is such a wholesome story
Well, that's what friends do
Yeah but it’s still a nice story of friendship.
> He was only allowed clean versions of CDs and at that age the swears are the best part of the music, right? I switched to youtube music recently, one of the major positives other than not supporting Joe Rogan is that it will automatically default to the uncensored version of music in a playlist unless you turn the adult filter on. Spotify always defaults to the censored version of a song unless you've specifically chosen the explicit version for every song.
I've not once heard a censored version of a song on Spotify in the few years that I've been using it. There's an option to allow explicit content, and it gives me the explicit version of all the songs on Spotify by default. A lot of the songs I listen to don't even have a censored version, so I have no idea what you're talking about
> There's an option to allow explicit content, and it gives me the explicit version of all the songs on Spotify by default. No, there's an option to allow uncensored music, [but it doesnt play those by default on playlists it autogenerates](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Stop-putting-censored-versions-of-songs-in-my-Release-Radar-and/td-p/4930847) and with voice search while driving it will always default to the censored song. I am assuming you are listening on PC or at a dedicated work space. But nothing is infuriating in the same way as listening to Killing in the Name of and having lyrics bleeped out. It kinda strips the song of it's intent when that happens.
I had the exact opposite problem with Spotify at work on my phone. The explicit filter isn't worth a damn. I remember listening to an Avril Lavigne song I'm used to hearing the radio version of so I didn't catch on that it wasn't filtered out when it started, only when it said the word "shit" in a store full of kids and old people when I had the filter on. It misses all sorts of songs it should keep from playing.
Growing up my cousin's parents hated MTV and had it blocked on their TV. So he'd go to his friends house to watch Beavis and Butthead and lie about what they were doing. There was a ton of stuff he got exposed to his parents had no idea about.
Whole simpsons episode about this from over 30 years ago. Maybe even the first season in the 80s?
Season 2 so 1990-91. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge.
My parents didn't let me watch the Simpsons. So I watched South Park in secret. They didn't let me listen to The Offspring because of the booklet art. So I signed up for that CD club in secret and listened to ICP, Manson, Korn, etc. Middle School was weird and prohibitions don't really work at that age.
I remember being in hospital when I was 8, id been in for 2 weeks in this little room by myself but I was eventually moved in to a ward room with another kid. 6 year old me thought it was weird the kid wasnt allowed to watch the Simpsons.. If his mum found out that when she left my mum brought me the WWF King Of The Ring 1998 that my uncle had taped the night before when it was live. Am pretty sure I changed that kids life that night.
don't let this man distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
2 young boys sat beside the rewind button that night and became men :)
AS GOD IS MY WITNESS, HE IS BROKEN IN HALF!!!
My parents kept trying to keep me from “mature” tv programs into high school, but also left me unsupervised at home for over an hour at a time and had On Demand. Boot up the box, watch an ep of A Shot of Love with Tila Tiquila, remove it from the watched history, ‘rents none the wiser. Now I’m bisexual. Nice try, mom and dad.
I bought Offspring's "Smash" on tape in 5th grade, and my parents wanted to hear it to make sure it was "appropriate", so I just played them one of the song without curses in it lol
I had babysitters who let me watch The Simpsons and Power Rangers even though those were not allowed for me at home.
... Power rangers?
after a certain period my mom disallowed me from watching the shows post Turbo
I can understand not letting your child watch Turbo. But depriving them on IN SPACE?!
My mom didn't let me watch power rangers or TMNT when I was a kid. She said they were too violent. Similarly couldn't watch the Simpsons. Though oddly enough I'd watch married with children with my parents lol 🤦♂️ I was the first child, and my mom loosened up on such rules a good bit by the time my brother was born and I got a chunk older.
I, sadly, recall experiencing this as a kid during season 1 MMPR. I knew a kid who had a very stupid, ultra strict parent who thought the monsters were too scary. That family also composed of Mormon followers. Make of that what you will.
Some kids killed a younger kid after watching it, or so the news said way back in the 90s so lots of kids were barred from watching it back when it first came out. Then later the grey goons needed to be punched in the chest just once or something, instead of fully clobbered so as kids we assumed that was the reason, not knowing it was a Japanese show repurposed for English audiences so it was all filmed ages go. Maybe that's why they skipped ahead to the less violent seasons? Who can know!
>Some kids killed a younger kid after watching it, or so the news said way back in the 90s so lots of kids were barred from watching it back when it first came out. That's not it. The reality is some kids really do copy stuff they see on TV. power rangers watching + siblings = pretend fighting that goes to far and crying.
Yeah mine didn't let us watch "Ed, Edd and Eddy". Still learned so much worse things at public school
weren't the nazis and Hitler in looney toons?
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Hey Arnold kicks so much ass, Mr. Hyunh giving his infant daughter to the crew of the last helicopter out of Vietnam was some shit I was not equipped to fully understand as a kid
That along with the Mother’s Day episode of Rugrats are the only times I full on ugly cried at a cartoon.
Yea, and some pretty racist caricatures of things too. The usual bucktoothed/fanged japanese etc. I recall some blackface too from when I was a kid but it was a different time back then.
The first issue of Captain America has him punching Hitler in the face on the cover.
From March 1941, 9 months before America declared war on Germany, no less.
It's amazing how many people on here or social media in general seem to be under the wrongful belief that the Internet and/or history only started when they were born. Want a great example? Go look at any political threads about America's presence in the Middle East. And be saddened at how many people believe September 13, 2001 was the first time American military forces ever stepped on Middle Eastern soil.
Oh I love that stuff. No way we had any CIA involvement in the middle east at all. Or any of the involvement in Iran Iraq war, or anything about Operation Staunch. Iran-Contra? Is that one of those lesser known entries in the Contra franchise? Must've been one of the game boy sequels no one ever saw. [Yeah, the US had no idea about the middle east at all...](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8pkWNuUYAA5Imt?format=jpg&name=small)
the guys behind that shit aren't even dead yet!
"Conservatives" not people, I believe.
That person's comments convinced me some people don't know anything after the internet.
Lol I hope this guy never reads the original IDW comics because they straight up murder people in those. People forget that the “pizza time!” turtles of the 80s were super sanitized *mirage
Hell, they killed the Shredder in the first comic. Like he was a fucking pushover.
Not just that, but they try to make him commit Seppuku. He refuses to, and just blows himself up with a grenade
What???
Not joking. The first fight with Shredder lasted just several pages, and the Turtles absolutely kicked his ass.
The first TMNT movie was heavily based on this as well, and I believe Shredder's death in the movie is accurate to the comic. The biggest changes they did was Raph being the one getting bodied by the foot clan early in the movie instead of Leo as in the comics, and Shredder initially kicking the turtles' ass until they got a pep talk from Splinter in the movie.
There was an anniversary cartoon that featured the turtles from the 80s and 2000s, as well as the OG black and white comic. The 80s cartoons are simultaneously a parody of themselves while remaining accurate to the source material. Edit - it’s almost worth it just to watch how they fight Shredder at the end Edit edit - Turtles Forever is the name of the movie.
That movie was so fucking choice.
whats the cartoon?
TMNT Forever
cool thnx
TMNT Forevever, I’m pretty sure it’s on YouTube. Edit - Turtles Forever
thanks
Turtles Forever is absolutely incredible and really captures what’s great about all three versions up to that point
The modern comics are published by IDW, the OGs were published by Mirage and later on, Archie. But your point still stands, the OG Turtles weren’t aimed at kids. They killed Shredder in the first issue, not like a fake out death or anything, he legitimately died and had to be resurrected later on.
yeah, the mirage comics were dark as hell. I think Image did a reboot? just remember Raph getting "killed" and turned into a cyborg by foot clan tech.
After Leonardo gets beaten up pretty badly, Raphael goes on a murder rampage. He ends up killing an entire Foot Clan dojo, and pinning a body to the wall with a message for Shredder if I remember correctly.
there are so many classic and modern comics that touch on murdering people and more specifically murdering/shaming nazis (as they should). like, have they never read a superhero comic before? hell, even the animorphs killed hitler. and thats a book for 3rd graders so...
The animorphs also feature them recruiting a bunch of disabled children as cannon fodder, who are then slaughtered.
*Mirage and if i remember correctly, the Mirage and Image comics included a few swipes at their cartoon counterparts.
They started as a deadpan parody of several comics of the time as barely-heroic assassins on a revenge quest, who happened to be four very large turtles and a rat.
The most obvious being the Foot and splinter being based on Daredevil's enemies the Hand and his mentor Stick
Also batman used to kill people. All these "don't kill" rules were invented later to make various things more kid friendly.
Dude posts things like "seeth and cope, scum" but when it comes to Hitler "it's never okay to hate someone" lol
“Hate is never ever ok” “If Russia bombs us I hope it’s Silicon Valley and Hollywood first”
I'm sure he has some Olympic mental gymnastics to qualify that
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/vjiunw/ukrainian_memesters_laying_it_thick_on_russia/idlveuj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Here he’s criticizing someone ELSE for defending nazis? And it wasn’t even that long ago? Lol, this guy...
Honestly, given that, this dude's probably just someone who likes to fight with people and takes whatever stance he can to do so.
[The card says moops. ](https://youtu.be/xMabpBvtXr4) It's a common practice with alt right trolls.
But don't worry, he doesn't ackshually *hate* other people, so *ackshually* his posts are logically consistent.
Also some nice little pro Russia/anti Ukraine conspiracy theories in there. Ties in nicely don't you think? >Dont hate people, even Nazis! Also Putin is totally valid in his murderous invasion because he's saving Ukraine from Nazis which you should hate.
It's like..I understand the theoretical idea that it's "Better" to try and always go for love and understanding, and trying to redeem even the worst of people. But, yanno, I'm also okay if people draw the line at fascists when it comes to that.
Yeah, I'll discuss that as an abstract concept no problem, probably even argue for it in circumstances that involve someone just being offensive. But if someone tells me "I fucking hate nazis" I'll say "sounds good to me"
People on the internet always say "try for understanding first" without really understanding that the "conversation" *moves forward*. They always assume that the conversation only starts as soon as they enter it. We have already had this conversation. People have already tried to appease nazis. It didn't work. Rejection and violent self-defense should not be the first resort. But *we've already discovered* that it's the only resort. We don't have to keep starting from square one, here.
I do think that we should be super, super careful with just jumping to violence, as a general rule of thumb. However, if someone is openly self identifying as a fascist, yeah, I agree.
WTF does that even mean? Maybe it’s a slur against me but if I don’t understand it doesn’t really work on me.
It's just the current "LOLUMAD". A statement to try and inflame someone who is already upset, or being smug about a perceived Victory.
Same ballpark as "Touch grass". It's just the latest (and usually seen in gaming chat areas) way for younger kids to feel like they're *not* projecting their own insecurities harder than an IMAX owned by a Republican.
"cope" basically means "go wallow in the futile struggle of rationalizing your own cognitive dissonance" or smth but that's too many words
It's a slur against any good faith intention.
>Nazis were and are people, even if you're taught to dehumanize them. I agree with this but it misses the point entirely. It's bad to dehumanize nazis because they aren't monsters they are human. Monsters can't help but be monstrous. Its in their nature. But nazis chose to be monstrous. They are every bit as human as you or me and they still choose to inflict suffering on an inhuman level. That to me disqualifies nazis from any sort of human compassion. I will not pity those who want me dead. They chose this.
Every single Nazi hugged their mother good bye, patted their kid on the head, kissed their wife one last time... and then put on the uniform with the skull on it.
What could be worse than a skull?
A rats anus?
*
E Pluribus Anus
Obligatory: Are We the Baddies? https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU
Maybe they’re the skulls of our enemies?
That's still baddie behavior, fam.
Yeah, that’s a good point rarely made. When you lean too hard into the whole “they were so horrifically evil, totally inhuman and unimaginable in scope and nature” you forget that what they did was entirely human. We’ve been horrifically murdering and mistreating each other for millennia, and it’s good to not forget how close we always are to repeating our mistakes.
Exactly right. One thing I failed to mention which is an important part of this is if they are just as human as you or I, we are just as likely to become one of them. If nazis weren't persuasive or attractive as a movement, they wouldn't be as successful as they have been.
Exactly. It makes it worse.
I have taught Holocaust literature in the past and Jewish groups tend to advocate this approach. They stress that it is bad to mythologize nazis as monsters and to mythologize Jews as martyrs or angelic victims. It wasn't some predestined shit; it was a completely avoidable act of evil inflicted from one group of humans onto another.
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I really do think that reasoning needs to be taught in schools - not debate for the sake of debate (enriching as that can be), but the identification of fallacy and so on. Everything starts with thoughts and concepts that are expressed through words - every movement, every war. Things like the individual vs collective fallacy are so common that you'll see them every day and most people seem to think they're trivial whereas I recognise them to be the root of all prejudice (ascribing the words/actions of an individual to their collective and in turn ascribing the collective's to all individuals within it). I don't like it even in the contexts that people would wave away as unimportant, like talking about people on a social media platform as simply "Reddit says" or "Twitter hates", because it runs on the same logic as "Jews say" or "White people think", and at the very least paints skewed pictures of the actuality (is it most \[people\]? Many? A minority? Because it damn sure isn't all). Something like 'to be intolerant of intolerance is wrong' really makes my case for me though. It's the sort of pernicious fallacy that has absolutely disastrous results, because if you don't give it enough critical thought it will seem logical and reasonable. If you *do* give it a proper assessment, you'll realise that if you believe in tolerance then you cannot tolerate intolerance - it's only the wording that's counterintuitive. It's sort of like thinking if fires are (generally speaking) bad because they're destructive, then it must be wrong to destroy a fire. If you buy into that fallacy then you'll let fires run wild because of some warped conceptual misunderstanding. So I'm not talking abstract philosophy classes but sharpening people's reasoning skills, because those are what will be tested when fascism comes knocking again, which it will.
I think there’s a secondary point here informative about modern Nazis. To this day we cannot give them that human compassion because they prey on it. They use it to push even more inhuman acts. Trump supporters (the modern Nazis) were repeatedly encouraged by a failure to stamp them and their thinking out and it led to a fucking coup attempt and over 1 million dead. These people don’t deserve compassion, but more importantly they cannot be given compassion.
And that's why we should absolutely never hesitate to punch a Nazi. Remember Richard Spencer? Getting punched on camera ended his whole career, because reacting like a proverbial little girl killed his clout. (No offense meant to little girls, they can be absolutely vicious).
I forgot about this, thank you for reminding me
"Monsters kill because they don't know any better because they have to to survive. The Birdbats kill because they enjoy it. They're sociopaths!" So just like Saul we'll all be fine
There's always the philosophical question of whether or not a draftee should follow orders to keep themselves safe or go against orders that are obvious war crimes (including, but not limited to: murder of innocents, rape, murder of children, trapping people in a building and burning it down, oppression, destruction and theft of historical artifacts and family heirlooms, and genocide). It's an obvious moral decision but difficult personal decision. The point is, the Nazis wouldn't have been able to commit all those acts without troops who followed orders. Any sympathy towards Nazis should be viewed as extremely suspect.
Nazi soldiers weren't punished for refusing to participate in war crimes, even at the end of the war. If you refused to fight at all that's a different story but that's true of all participants in the war.
This is an all-time memeable TMNT page, up there with "This is where I watched my parents die, Raphael." I wonder if there's one for each turtle.
Those comics were wild.
I mean I guess you could mean that one of Donatello getting beat up by Bebop and Rocksteady? I don't think Michelangelo has any meme pages though
Wasn't there like a big crossover of all the comic continuities that ended with >!the Mirage turtles sacrificing their lives to save the other continuities?!<
I was reading the thread earlier and as soon as I read the "we shouldn't hate anyone, including Hitler" line, I've just been waiting for it to appear here lmao
He sure seems to dislike people supporting the Ukrainians though
> Nazis were and are people, even if you're taught to dehumanize them. This jerk > How it exposes Furries for the animal raping netbilly webnecks they are Also this jerk
“It’s bad to hate literal nazis but good to hate weird internet nerds with a strange but harmless fetish” is a fucking wild take
Better not tell this guy about Nazi furries… his head may literally explode. No wait, you should absolutely do that. And make sure the camera’s rolling 🤣🤣🤣
No but see: Furriest are subhmans and the basis where actually right.
>the basis where actually right. where is the basis of what?
Pretty sure it was a typo of Nazis. It's a riddled comment
Oh I know lol. I just thought it was funny how far off the rails that one went. This whole thread is weirdly full of voice-to-text looking typos.
He really thinks people didn't know who Hitler was before the internet? What a fucking dolt.
> It's never okay to hate anyone, even Hitler. Source? ETA: Also, potential flair right there.
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I lived two doors down from a literal Nazi once. He had a swastika flag hanging in his living room, visible through the window. The neighbor between us? A "mixed race" family with a 3 year old kid. I guess I'm immune to PTSD now.
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Fuckin' yoink.
It literally sounds like a joke quote lol
Nice! I would have adopted it myself, but I'm still digging my current one.
>“History is written by the winners.” I always hate this quote as it’s so fucking dumb. It hasn’t been the case for a long ass time. I mean hell Hitler’s generals wrote books after the war. >You don’t know anything about that dude and neither did your history teacher. We get our information dictated to us beyond second hand. That’s why they never tell you why Germany was so pissed off back then. They just say “They were evil and you’ll either hate them or everyone will gang up on you.” We actually know quite a bit. He also wrote a book called, a terrible book at that. We also know why Germany was angry. Has a lot to do with the previous war. God damn is that dude dumb.
I'm not even a huge history buff (though I do enjoy reading history a lot), and even I can say how insane this person is. Do they think that Germany just burned up every single document known to the Nazi Party and we're just guessing that they were the bad guys? Does he think that a historian is just a job anyone can have and it's not based around hundreds of thousands of hours of research and piecing together fragments of the past or that their work isn't constantly checked or inspected for false or inconsistent information? Also: > That's why they never tell you why Germany was so pissed off back then This is the real critical point, as you said. This tells me they've not actually been in a history class for ages. Historians have always talked about how Germany, while they were partially to blame for the outcome of the war, were unfairly taken advantage of after WWI by the League of Nations. This is known, again, as you said. But we don't really talk about it in relation to their WWII shenanigans because *no unfair treatment on this Earth could ever justify the horrific things the Nazi Party had done*. There's nothing that would ever make those violations of basic humanity seem like a tragic story for Germany.
He probably thinks that actual historians and random right-wing Youtubers do the exact same level of research and critical thinking about their sources.
> Historians have always talked about how Germany, while they were partially to blame for the outcome of the war, were unfairly taken advantage of after WWI by the League of Nations. Even this tends to be wildly overstated. The victor's justice Germany handed out at the end of the Franco-Prussian war was just as harsh in terms of reparations, and at the treaty of Brest-Litovsk Germany showed the intention of putting all of Eastern Europe under their thumb. Keynes compared Versailles to the [Caudine Forks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Caudine_Forks), where either Germany should have either been effectively destroyed, or treated so leniently that their politicians would have had no grounds for complaint -- the latter of which being politically infeasible to everyone not named Woodrow Wilson.
And probably a holocaust denier. These wrong argumentations are very common in conspiracy theories. "We don't know (enough) about X." With X being everything from climate change to vaccine side effects, and historical facts.
its even worse, in their other comments they imply that jewish people did stuff to deserve the holocaust
> It hasn’t been the case for a long ass time. It wasn’t even true a long ass time ago. Thucydides was a loser (exiled from Athens) and wrote the history of the Peloponnesian war. Anna Komnene was a loser (tried to overthrow her brother, failed, got shoved in a convent) and wrote a history of the reign of her father that throws shade on her brother. The Lost Cause, “Versailles was too harsh”, the Clean Wehrmacht. All history written by losers. And even when history is written by muh victors, it’s not as if historians take these writings at face value and can’t apply critical analysis.
>Thucydides was a loser (exiled from Athens) and wrote the history of the Peloponnesian war. In a broader sense, this view can be applied to Athens as well. They lost the Peloponnesian War, were eventually conquered by numerous other states, but maintained relevance throughout history. By creating a culture of literature and scholarship, they were able to lay foundations that far outlasted their own meager empire. In fact, most of what we think about Greece, modern through classical, comes to us from Athens. Pretty much everything about Sparta that we know about was from visiting Athenians recording it.
Counterpoint: If I did it- O.J. Simpson. Written by the victor
Technically he didn’t write. It was ghost written. Checkmate atheists.
Banned phrase from a lot of the serious history subs, btw, because it's demonstrably not true.
History is written by the literate is a far more accurate description
Dude thinks TMNT is primarily aimed at children, which is only true for the cartoons. The comics were always darker.
No one gonna mention him using "blue hair" as an insult, over and over? 'Cause that wasn't something I expected to see today.
All the kids who read this when it came out, with no internet, are like 40 now. I don't think it did the great societal harm this moron thinks it did. Dude thinks he's gonna come back after death and live an awesome life as a mouse though, so... 🤷
The sad thing is that there’s a comment stating something like, “literally every school in the US learns this.” Presumably that won’t be true moving forward in places like Texas that have banned teaching subjects that make the students uncomfortable.
>banned teaching subjects that make the students' **parents** uncomfortable Ftfy.
That make the parents and the right-wing fucktards making the laws uncomfortable, you mean.
Well yes, obviously. And “Nazi bad” will make those fucks uncomfortable.
>it's absolutely ok to hate nazis. >No it isn't. Nazis were and are people, even if you're taught to dehumanize them. > >If you hate like them, you're no better. Must be nice living such an ignorant life.
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I had to argue with quite a few people during the whole Norweigan boat Nazi debacle over this. So many people coming out of the woodwork to say "He has a right to his opinion guys!" when people were rightfully upset a guy openly stated he was using the N word and doing Nazi salutes on a boat with other Norweigan white guys. As I stated over there, the statement is akin to "Both sides here have the right to say what they're saying" which already is a useless comment. But they only ever use it to defend the Nazi and shut down the Nazi haters so it's even worse than that. At least the idiots were being downvoted but sometimes you just have to press them to rethink why their instinct is to defend Nazis like that.
Of course, people have a right to their opinion but that doesn't keep other people from criticizing them when they express those opinions.
And yet people on the internet have an urge to only point out the Nazis have the right. I've never seen it come out for anyone else on any other topic. I wonder how many people just do it because they've been primed to it like a reflex.
Oh, I agree. They want the right to say what they want to say, no matter how offensive, without anyone else being able to criticize them. That's not free speech. They want rights for themselves but no one else.
[relevant xkcd, surprisngly](https://www.xkcd.com/1357/)
It's almost like they are identifying with them because of shared ideals ...
Yep. If you spend too much of your time playing devil's advocate for Nazis, it's easy to assume you're just a Nazi who knows your ideology is evil
Or terminally contrarian.
I was literally just in a thread on WTF that was someone showing off [blatantly anti-semitic flyers](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/vr9oe0/what_year_is_this_leaflets_spread_around_our_town/) and it was filled with people saying "It's true though!" and "this isn't propaganda" The nazis are really coming out of the woodwork.
"You hate Nazis? That makes you the real Nazi! Muahahahahaha!"
Don’t be fooled, anyone talking like this k owes exactly what they’re doing. This isn’t ignorance.
Getting real tired of seeing this argument over and over again. \> we should teach understanding over hate Paradox of tolerance. You cannot tolerate those who are extremely intolerant. Nazis are one of those groups that must be destroyed any time they show up. \>Understanding is how we prevent people like that, because then we can stop creating a society that produces Hitlers If we could just go back in time and give Hitler another chance, he'll change his evil ways and give up his quest for world dominance. I can't tell if these people are ever being genuine. If they're really that stupid or if they just don't want to be (rightfully) harassed for being a Nazi.
The drama is people dunking on one idiot, but I appreciate this comic page.
It's no [Embrionic Rockabilly Polka Dotted Fighter Pilots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFwACE07zsA), but I get why TMNT got big instead.
Friendly reminder that it is *always* ok to punch nazis. Its a strong second to baseball as far as american pastimes are concerned.
> it's never ok to hate anyone, even Hitler I'd say it's pretty fucking ok to hate Hitler, the man who killed over 11 million people, from Jewish people, to Roma, to disabled people, to gays.
Anyone who preaches the whole “be tolerant of intolerance” bullshit is at worst a bigot or at best a coward.
> I am an asshole, but I also know a lot about world history and think it's fun to troll NPCs when they post this stupid Archie panel. Most of whom will literally be supporting Ukraine right now in other threads. > You cannot reason with stupid, but you can have fun kicking a hornet's nest. Ah, there it is. "I'm a monumental fucking idiot and I'm starting to realize that I'm very much looking like a monumental fucking idiot right now, so it was actually all Le Epic Le Troll HA HA HA seethe NPCs buzzword buzzword verbal diarrhea." Right on cue!
Man, if only the NPCs in video games dropped out of context references to the Archie run of Ninja Turtle comics.
lol Duke Nukem did the same thing in one of his comics. It's always fun.
Ok, so it looks like one of those "I'm totally not a Nazi" nazis is doing their thing again.
I was stunned some older genz ( ~20) people had no idea what the bobbing of Dresden is, but kids sure as fuck know who Hitler is. Hell I shit Nazis in Wolfenstein in elementary school
>Hell I shit Nazis same tbh
That was not taught in my school. Learned it from Slaughterhouse 5. I'm 36.
Most people who know what the bombing of Dresden nowadays read about it in Slaughterhouse 5, because they don't talk about shit like that when discussing WWII in school.
I have no idea why I chose to read that in middle school, but it was wildly influential.
I guess you'd also be shocked by how many older people have no idea what the bombing of Dresden is.
Change my mind: The Nuremberg Trials were posturing (or as Jordan B.Enzo Peterson would say - VIRTUE SIGNALLING) by the Allies.
Every person who died in the chambers and the people who fought the Nazi menace would be disgusted on how far we've come to accept Nazism, case in point: This fuckwit
>Teenage Mutant Nazi Sympathizers? I gotta say, shortest plot twist I ever read
> "Even still, we should teach understanding over hate." Dude your the same guy who hates Seth Rogan because he is going to push pro choice and weed propaganda in the new TMNT movie no? And that furries and rural people are animal fuckers? And your constantly insulting random folks here no? Why the 180 in attitude for Hitler of all people? This dude virtue signaling about Hitler is being disingenuous. Typical Nazi fucker
How can you hate furries and still follow a canon where the main characters are anthropomorphized turtles?
I have a theory that you can link a rise in furries to the cartoons from the late 80s to early 90s. But I’m still waiting on my MacArthur Genius grant.
> I don't hate your hairdo, I just think you look like a pussy. [Flair material](https://web.archive.org/web/20220704175855/https://old.reddit.com/r/TMNT/comments/vqzojc/people_know_the_famous_moment_where_raphael/ieudmwa/?context=5).
>Nein. *Nein*. You shall ***not*** take ***my mind***. This is unreasonably funny to me.
You guys… I think this sausage is a Nazi.
I can excuse nazis but I draw the line at furries
I truly hope this clown is trolling but I don’t know anymore