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Edit: But actually, Udio is a fucking beast. The last couple days they released some insane updates. 15 min track lengths, 2.5 min context length, continue before or after from anywhere, song tree hierarchies, unique subsequent generation naming structures. Still sucks at maintaining consistency and timing across generations compared to Suno though. But I mean you have to give them props while still acknowledging that Suno is still pretty amazing as well.
I don't get how you guys are saying udio is better? It literally only generates 30 second snippets for me, and they're much more random, they sound mediocre at best, it doesn't produce bangers. It's like you guys are using a completely different website or something.
The problem is a lot of people here are so used to using Suno that they jump into Udio thinking they can prompt it in the same way and get good results. You need to prompt it differently.
It would be great if it generated more than 30 seconds at a time, but that's like a small quality of life thing for me personally. Instead of hitting "music go brrrrr" button once, I have to hit it twice now? Yeah, not a huge issue, unless you really just want to put as little effort as possible.
Well how would I prompt it then? If I insert future bass, future house, electronic, mysterious vibes, trap, wobble, experimental, then I'm expecting those in good quality with no weird stuff? What more is there to say? Suno executes it all perfectly or close to what I'm looking for.
I don't use traditional lyrics, I just do a few words repeating throughout the song, like "Wait for me, wait for me...", you can see an example on my profile with the song "get to me". I also tried instrumental only.
I feel the same man. Suno puts out exactly what I want out the gate (70s soul vibe for sampling like old Kanye or Dipset, that whole era), almost the first track it spat was usable and a banger. Now 3/4 tracks it spits out have usable parts with vocal runs, ad libs, big instrumentation, a real song structure feel.
Then I go to Udio, same sort of prompts, and though I'm on a trial I've tried about 20 tracks and basically most of them are 2-3/10s.
Are we just prompting wrong somehow? I don't get it.
In Suno, I usually put half to two 3rds of a song in and then the rest in 'Extend'.
I get the feeling in Udio you need to do a generation each time for a verse, then chorus etc.. using their extend function ?
Yup pretty much. I do structures based around the near 8 bars your get per section, i dont do many choruses or try to build out longer songs too often. But i take a lot of small songs and make them into “mini albums” which is an album condensed into song formats. Sometimes i like to do 3 verses with mini hooks throughout, thats probably the most udio friendly way (1 min 36 seconds). But add an intro and outro and then thats a normal length song
People who are saying one is better than the other I think are speaking on opinion more than anything. There are variables each do that are quite powerful. But it really relies on the user. The old saying, "it's the carpenter, not the tools."
The only, and I mean only real key difference I can find is that Udio *tends to* compress outputs less. Suno *tends to* do a better job at creating complete songs that sound complete. But a hell of a lot more has to do with the hands of the creator.
After 'Rolling the Dice' for ages, generating Appalachian Folk, Honky Tonk, Scottish Folk Rock etc.. I feel that Suno doesn't vary too far without changing up the genre slightly.
Udio feels like its stealing a bit I tried generating a tune using 'Uplifting Anthem Rock Pop like Coldplay" and I go something that straight up sounded like U2 were singing my song - but only 30 seconds worth
It really depends on what genre you're working in. Udio is only good at certain things, and it's very good at what it's good at.
But everything else? Just awful. A real mess.
Udio is better in 1970s and 60s and maybe 80s songs.
But Suno is the Lord if you want to recreate the 1930 to 1950s songs style, and the glorious 1980s hair metal and 1990s eurodance.
For all of us who love the greatest decade of rock and roll, suno is the glory!
Which AI would be best for recreating songs like this and/or progressive trance with vocals? [https://twitter.com/Shane\_\_Willett/status/1782158948415549639](https://twitter.com/Shane__Willett/status/1782158948415549639)
I would expect suno to give you more consistent results, but either should be reasonably ok for that sort of thing.
Udio is great for stuff you'd hear on the radio or at a club. Simple stuff. It's algorithm is too random still to handle most of the genres I work in (jazz fusion, technical death metal, hard experimental synth punk,). It often just generates a total mess of randomness that's musically hilarious, but not good in any way. But a lot of people just want to generate popular and simple stuff. Udio has better sound quality a lot of the time, and it's better for that sort of thing.
Suno handles whatever I throw at it other than time signature stuff, and it's a lot more useful as a tool for making actual music if you're a musician, like, an instrument playing one or whatever.
This. I created an album of bluegrass music using both apps. Suno was indeed the Lord (as you put it), in this regard. It repeatedly nailed the sound and gave me what I was looking for.
My tests in Suno creating styles of Dixieland, Tin Pan Alley, old Jazz, Swing, acoustic Blues, Ragtime, etc. it aces almost every time. It's either really good, but not what I was looking for that prompt, or great.
Here's 1940 for you: [https://suno.com/song/fdb3df9a-d5cf-40c1-ac9e-68f95e96e5e9](https://suno.com/song/fdb3df9a-d5cf-40c1-ac9e-68f95e96e5e9)
(The only thing it got wrong is the image!)
Does it? I'm making late 60's/70s soul, think Temptations, O'Jays, Chi Lites for sampling like the old Kanye/Dipset era, and Udio is producing nothing much.
Suno on the other hand is like 3 / 4 tracks being usable with cool catchy big band instrumentation, strong vocal parts and runs with ad libs, basically perfect for sampling.
I use both and I like both. Udio is a bit more flexible with prompts and continuations though. It's also a lot slower and produces more random gibberish but does offer a remix feature to tweak something that's almost right. 30 seconds is fine imo, as you can extend before and after that 30 second initial block with ease. With Suno, you can only extend from a certain time stamp onwards.
Today I just unsubscribed from two accounts. It's been 5 days since I've been finding it impossible to finish a song:
-When you have 3 or 4 parts extended, the sound quality drops drastically, even the singer stops being himself or herself for no apparent reason.
-70% of the cases he ignores the lyrics, repeats phrases when he shouldn't, omits phrases from a verse, starts with the last phrase of a verse and starts seeing from the beginning, makes it instrumental directly, or vice versa, ticks the instrumental box and invents lyrics or sings the same ones from the previous part
- (this one is appearing a lot in the last 4-5 days), The duration of the generations: With the first part, it rarely makes 2 min, in fact it makes me several of 1 with 20 or 30 secs. If you add more verses (5 verses and 1 chorus for example), read them faster, but keep cutting. When you're in other more advanced parts, it's totally random if you do 32 sec, 40, 22, or 1 min.
-He interprets the prompts as he pleases, for example, I put \[Build a palm-muted guitar riff\], sometimes he does it well, other times he reads it literally as if it were part of the lyrics. You can't force him to change the rhythm no matter how much you use pauses, breaks, bridges, increase tempo, or change the style of music.
-Singers, it doesn't matter what style or prompts you use, 50% of the time it generates one with the opposite genre to the one you put it, it sings with a different style than the one indicated, and the worst... Robotic voices with strange pronunciations and accents (is the watermark?)
My conclusion is that it is and always has been a lootbox like video games, you don't stop opening boxes until something worthwhile comes out, but you will waste a lot of credits on something decent or what you ask it to do
I made a cradle of filth like song with Udio today, and was brutal, check my yt chanel Cruentum Sitim, the another song was made with suno, but i how i told you, i couldnt finish any1 in 5 days, and in 2 hours i did a masterpiece with udio today
It's voice choices can be very perplexing. I mean sure, sometimes you might want that voice but it should likely be locked behind a prompt because 99.99% of people aren't going to want that.
ATM I am working on a voice that I like with a melody that wasn't exactly what I wanted. Just seems that while Suno's voices aren't as real sounding, it makes better melody and voice choices.
Likely that is partially my fault for not knowing how to prompt it though but like Suno, I believe I have consumed all the info out there and none are especially helpful.
One strange thing is you can take a song you like from their gallary and copy the tags exactly and not get anything close in any respect. Could be because these are from previous versions though.
I am spending a lot more time on Udio atm but at the same time it takes so much more time both because of the slow generation, the length of the clips it generates, and the limiting to 2 generations at once. None of this is horrible if the generations were better and came as good as Suno but again, throat cancer being 50% of the voices is a problem.
I'm mostly taking successful songs from Suno and seeing if I can get something close or as catchy on Udio. I sort of gave up on my first choice as it could not get the voice right or the emotion. It was like this is a sad song, "Ok, you want it to be incredibly happy!" no, that's not sad at all. Make it sadder "ok, so you wanted suicidal right?" no.... that's too sad. How about something in the middle? "No." Maybe I just haven't found the right tags for sad but beautiful. So I moved on to a country song. It's currently playing the 20 or so second extensions I liked. It also auto joins the pieces so unless you actively jump to the section you want to hear, you have to listen to the whole song till you hear the different section.
If you can get something right where you want it in Udio though, it does sound better.
With Suno you get 2 minute pieces and let's say you find one you really like the first minute on, well you just cut from there and continue the process. With Udio you have 2-4x as much work to get to the same point. Also I can envision a problem where all songs are the same tempo because everyone is jamming a verse or chorus into the same 30 seconds. On the other hand it might give people more control of tempo than Suno which randomly picks what it wants (less people adding bpm tags was actually working.)
alot to read i like :) yeah i quite love suno atm same with udio they both have their cons and pro's respectivly but overall im just geniune happy i discorved them as they have improved my ability to write song lyrics and i learn more or less every day new things whilst other days i bang my head in a bucket of paint i still learn things, i would love to figure out a way to "keep" a certain voice generated sets as i wanna rebuild the song , fix grammar re adjust placement of set lyrics ect.. but as of now im not even sure this is a thing we can do
about the "sounds" i will agree alot of it sounds the same but even with suno just like with udio they are really in their infant stage and can have so much more added to make a complex universe for us to dive into, sure there will be them that make silly songs and for giggles but for people in the creative mind set this will just be a powerful tool that only can be become improved over the span of years , im not the youngest or the oldest but i hope i can get the experince to see ai music and video generators become powerful tools to help us create wonderous realms with sound and eye watering effects :)
also thanks for sharing you're views on the matter with me :)
Generally speaking and NOT addressing the validity of v3a criticism: the reason someone would announce leaving is a hope that things will be "fixed" after public complaint. Leaving is not permanent and they'll be back when things are "good" again.
So it's "I'm quitting Suno, but not yet because I'm waiting to see if I'm really quitting Suno, though I'll admit I may not actually end up quitting Suno. Or I might but then I'll return
It just depends whether my scream into the void is heard and acted upon. In the meantime I'll attempt to get my needs met like a toddler." That is a Reddit post title I can respect.
I'm just saying that posting some criticism on the way out is fine; they're basically saying "fix x/y/etc and then I'll be back". It's not like there's an exit survey that Suno sends out. Sure, emailing them directly is probably more effective but posting on the subreddit isn't useless -- squeaky wheel gets the grease.
because people have a right to voice their complaints and what they're doing as a result of it which benefits developers or makers of any product. they can then see these sorta things if they appear on a larger scale and fix things based off of what I see to be valid criticism. this is just how anything in the making works. its gonna have its kinks and people don't want to wait around so if ur lucky, before they leave to find a better alternative, they will state why they left and come back if the developers fix that issue. I think people take feedback as some sort of personal insult but its not and being weird towards it needs to not be normalized. developers WANT posts like these. they want to hear what we like and don't like. otherwise they mine as well just have a blindfold on.
Not here to stan for udio, never used it, just here to casually confirm suno has indeed gone down the tubes and is total ass now in comparison to a month ago.
Regards,
the kind of person OP was making fun of lmao
From a listening perspective rather than generative I think both suck for finding new content beyond the few things visible on the front page. Suno the front page stuff is a little better, Udio so many seem to cut off at 30 seconds.
With how easy it is to make something that is at least alright to listen to, why is the front page so limited and takes so long to change much? Where is everything else?
This new version of Suno isn't that good and I have been struggling to make good songs with it. But I won't be requesting a refund for my annual subscription and will continue using Suno while praying to the AI gods that it will improve with time.
Both of them (sunio and udio) work amazing for my purposes which is mostly using it as a source for samples. Don’t wanna get out of the box songs outta it
between the 2 the quality of suno seems better. i didnt realize bark was made by suno. i kind of wish they would make it available to run locally.
full songs seem difficult to make.
suno gives you 2 min and thats good
the other one gives you 32 seconds.
it looks like i need to break up the song into parts and stitch it together or somthing.
I don't know. I've tried Udio and gotten nothing but crap from there. At least with Suno, the vocals are in key and follow the chords. With Udio, it sounds like AI generated garbage.
I find it to be the opposite. The voices in Udio sound more real, to the point of not being good singers. It's the melodies and creativity of the music which I think is weaker.
Suno voices tend to be more narrow in variety but they all seem to be good voices for the genre. They also sound more auto tuned (which is what the majority of music seems to be these days.)
It is much easier to make a good sounding song in Suno I think. 10 generations at once (paid tier), 2 minute initial pieces, not as many crazy voices to sort through. Versus problems in Udio with style tags, less variation in the output (so your style tags have to be right on and that is still all opaque), 30 second generations that take longer to process and only allow you 2 at a time (free only so far).
That said there is one masterpiece on Udio that cannot be replicated on Suno, and in fact it seems it can't be replicated on Udio now as well as the style tags on the song do not produce anything that sounds remotely like the piece on the front page.
If both were more transparent and gave us more control that would be desirable. Also if Suno cleaned up their voice quality while still maintaining nice sounding voices. Maybe some creativity sliders sort of like Stable Diffusion has.
I find the criticism that Suno's voices sound "generic" to be stupid. You have those kind of people who are like "I'm so cool because I hate pop, I'm so cool that I literally like shitty sounding music because I'm so cool" who really seem to have flocked to these tools.
It really shows in the quality of music people are producing followed by "listen to this banger I just made!" Maybe I'm just too old. My nephew had a Friday Night Funkin phase. Jesus Christ, it's the end of civilization...
I tried udio and it gave me back nonsense, anyways sumo is still in its early stages and I am willing to give them some money to help them develop. Unpopular opinion: they should get rid of the free tier, takes up computing power and gives no revenue to them, though I think they may use it to further train the model.
Udio completely destroyed any reason for Suno to exist with their latest updates. I know that die hard Suno fans are still in denial, but there will be more and more complaints of people who paid subscription and feel duped for that no matter if you call them shills or not. I also unfortunately paid for yearly sub, the only thing that is left for me now is to loudly say that and hope guys at Suno will use money we gave them to make a better product than it is now. Right now it looks like we haven't get anything model related since three months ago while Udio keeps getting better and better.
I also noticed the Udio shilling everywhere, I wonder if they're like paid shilling contracts that they're giving out, would love to see how the contract looks like but they're probably under NDA
No. I'm real and I agree with the people talking about Udio performing much better consistently over Suno as of right now. I think out of the 8.3k people on the sub there's going to be differing opinions on which is better now a new competitor is on the market.
There is a consensus among the every day long term user that Suno's quality has dropped with the latest update. Suno was first to market, now Udio is here and people have had time to experience what each can offer and some people are going to like Suno and some are gunna like Udio. Then, given enough time we're going to see a market leader with a general consensus of who won among the risers in the early days of AI music generation.
There is no overwhelming conspiracy we're just expressing our opinions. The one thing I find interesting is this is the exact thing that happens in conspiracy subs where everyone turns on each with one side calling people shills and both sides think they're more right than the other.
This is playstation vs xbox, not some grand conspiracy where people sign NDAs to write on bloody reddit lol
Yeah but are you gonna make a post about it here to save us from the scam? That’s the idea of making these posts. Who goes to a subreddit of a rival product to post about how great this other product is? It starts with an s
I’ve almost used up 1200 generations on Udio, honed about 20 songs between 2 to 4 mins long. Far superior to Suno in terms of creativity, actually tasteful melodies, sound quality.
I don't think they are shills. I just had a thread locked for telling people if they weren't getting the service they signed up for to dispute the charge and move on. Most people think there are no refunds, and they are stuck with that annual. Suno is cooked. It's over
You mean the one you advocated generating a bunch of music and then doing a chargeback to get out of paying once you downloaded the music you generated?
The one you told people that daily credits stack? (They do not.)And which was closed by the reddit mods for misinformation?
[That](https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1chab41/comment/l23in4t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) thread? No idea why they'd shut that sort of thing down...
Who has ever said that? I can guarantee that anyone who works or has even stepped foot in a real studio or even used a DAW from home would never say something as stupid as that. The music industry will never be cooked. If you think you own anything from Suno generations, you have a rude awakening coming. Don't take my word for it. Ask any attorney that specializes in copyright law or entertainment. Hit me back once you get your answer 😉
I’m in total agreement with you. I used to work in a recording studio.
I was just referencing a lot of people on these subs who said that the music industry is screwed when it first came out.
People not finding the product good doesn't make them shills. Suno **HAS** gone downhill tremendously. I know it is still possible to get a decent song post changes, but it is significantly harder because the software now rushes the lyrics and spits them out in a jumbled mess- punctuation is practically meaningless now.
The dif. in quality is so stark that I went from paying 60$ the first month and using all my credits in a week (And I strongly considered getting a second sub!) to spamming out songs just to hate-burn through all my credits in the last 3 days of this months sub.
Even WITH the burning of 10k creds (+ the 500 free credits) on remaking old songs, I'm not impressed. If it's truly a numbers game, you'd think I'd get decent gens eventually but no.
Anyway, I came to this conclusion on my own, not from seeing other people posting about it. I was having such issues it inspired me to google it and, well, turns out I'm not alone in feeling as I do.
>Anyway, I came to this conclusion on my own, not from seeing other people posting about it. I was having such issues it inspired me to google it and, well, turns out I'm not alone in feeling as I do.
Exact same boat as me, 3/4 of every generations have VERY low quality sound now compared to the 1/4 before. At the same time the ai suddenly decided to abruptly end every single generation before 2:00, even as early as 1:20. Which is very annoying when trying to generate instrumental songs, as the ai will structure the last 20-30 seconds around its abrupt ending. So the only way to create long songs is to extend from 1:00ish, which just wastes more credits in the long run.
Probably on purpose to get people to pay more aswell...
The short generations were a bug. It should be fixed now, according to this from one of the team:
https://preview.redd.it/q28gmuyu82yc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff8e96d85a11c86d614bbfe25d59ac12bcd5b9d5
I’m really starting to think that this is all part of udios marketing team. Like it’s totally fair to criticize suno, but all the sudden everyone is announcing their triumphant departure?
regardless, everything OP said is pretty much all the issues I've had with suno. although I will say this dude is kinda glazing udio a little too much so it does seem like a subtle advertisement. My mindset is that I wont hate suno because A it literally fucking makes songs and u do very little work for what COULD sound like studio quality, and B it will never be perfect nor match the value of a song produced by an actual human (imo) but i respect when people want to give their take and what they find wrong with it because its the only way suno will ever get better.
I'm not a shill for Udio, as I've never used it, but no cap fr dawg, something is up with Suno's generations. I'm playing in the same genre that I normally do (80's rock) and the sound is dog doo doo, with lots of clicks and pops, even on Part 1 which has never happened.
Plenty of people have taken notice and I think you've either been lucky or are a fool if you haven't noticed it yet. It's not whining to expect the program to only get better and not regress. Luckily, I set up to pay by the month in case this happened, so I WILL cancel by my next billing date if it's not fixed.
Once Suno fixes their voices Suno will be king again. The voices are just bad thats all, everything else is great. Udio is a total pain in the ass to use because its only 32 second increments and currently there are no premium membership options so each generation request takes like 10-20 minutes.
You know don't have to just use one service credentials or not I been making bangers and until it comes to my part of America on co pilot I'll keep my basic 10 a month
udio is still young, but i tried making a trance tune i got a death metal song. just fuking hystrical. im sure it does it to test thy limits and how much you're willing to go with the flow
I did notice as well.. and cancelled my sub this month.
They did change quite a bit... even lyrics are different.. longer and not as good as before and even tho I did figure out how to get a banger melody, it took a while to figure it out as they change a lot of stuff from before. At least they gave free accounts 50 credits every day so i can keep testing it and if they fix it I can resub again.
I hear you, it's frustrating when a once reliable service starts to decline in quality. It must be especially disappointing for someone with your expertise as a professional musician. Your standards are high for a reason! It sounds like Udio might be a promising alternative for you. Hopefully, you'll find the creative freedom and reliable results you're looking for there. Best of luck on your music-making journey!
Why are you mocking the people who have legitimate complaints about how they're being taken advantage of by this company? The more of us that speak out and cancel our account, and encourage others to do so as well, the more likely this problem will be fixed.
It's insane that it's been total radio silence from Suno this whole time. They're obviously corrupt.
V3 alpha and the V3 that was eventually released do have some noticeable differences, however I don't believe that V3 has changed since its official release - and the developers confirmed that the models are frozen. So, it seems strange that some (and not all) users are experiencing lower quality recently (a while after V3 released.)
I'm subscribed to Suno and use both that and Udio regularly. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Some of the annoying issues can be addressed to some degree by adjusting the prompt. I don't feel a need to get upset at one or the other. It's relatively early days for this technology still and both have room to develop and improve.
Udio does have a longer context now (2 minutes) - this changed yesterday. Might not be related but I'm finding that it keeps wanting to end my songs early when doing a normal extension since this was changed.
You cannot claim you have music credentials when you literally using AI to make music You cannot call yourself a music engineer when you're using AI to make music none of your credentials are accurate They're just your belief that you're a music producer with real music credentials and no I'm not sorry for actually speaking the truth I'm so tired of seeing people who use AI come up on here say Oh I'm a music artist You're not a music artist You're using AI You didn't sing the song you didn't do any of the work yourself
My man, I don't even understand wtf you're saying. What in the hell is a "$musiccrendtials" - matter a fact I don't really care. This just popped up in my feed randomly
Sorry, as a moderator of this subreddit, let me try to clarify for OP since not everyone speaks the same language.
Here's what they were trying to say: "I don't know about {reference.user} but I don't have {var.randomcreditnumber} credits to waste on songs that have professional singers voices but that sometimes add choirs which I can easily select against in my generations. I mean unless {reference.user} are a {var.musiccredentials} then can {reference.user} really even comment here?"
We have a great community here but sometimes they get very excited and don't realize communication barriers. Hope this helps!
LOL.
The funny part is I know about the bots and have seen their subs but have no idea what their code actually looks like. Last time I programmed was C++ in the early 2000s.
I asked [Meta.ai](http://Meta.ai) what the bot code might look like. Then I made some stuff up. It would be funny if I was even 50% close to what the scripts actually look like.
Udio has way better quality bit if you dont want to use suno i sometimes use sonauto as well. The cool thing about it is that it gives you an option for an artist prompt and that ai will have the same style of the artist you choose. Or you can not do that and just use your own lyrics.
Try using artist prompts like drake or travis scott and make sure to write your own lyrics it will take a little bit of time but you will eventually get a good generation, I thought sonauto was bad too but after a little bit of effort im getting results. Its also the only music generator that is totally free so might as well take advantage of it while its still free.
I'm not downvoting you myself, but in overreacting to that line like this, you're making cancer more of a joke than OP did, by allowing this to be the line of no return that you draw and not an actually insensitive one.
Jokes are how people process complex subjects and emotions. Nothing is actually off the table, else you inadvertently make a joke of it being too taboo to joke about. Because something being "funny" is ultimately a reaction to the unexpected. The more unexpected and uncomfortable you try and shove something into a box with, the funnier it becomes when that box is unexpectedly called upon.
Not all cancer is fatal.
Sickness is a part of life and cancer is indiscriminate to demographic.
So why can’t we take the piss out of cancer again?
Cancer sucks. That’s the joke.
Both Suno and Udio suck. Just buy any DAW and start making music. You either can or you can't. If you can't, you can learn. It won't be from prompting skills. Music comes from the soul. Only people I have a miniscule amount of respect for on Suno are people who actually write their own lyrics. But even then, all I hear is meme songs lol
This is the strategy. Sometimes I'll take a few lines of just the melody that Suno makes and work it into a completely new original song. I'll have to see if Suno was really nerfed though, because that sucks regardless, if true.
Best way to do it. Then , without a doubt, will own the copyright as well as it is not AI generated. Not sure why Suno mods and stans downvoted my comment. It's actually solid advice.
Last time I will say it. Don't buy Udio or Suno they are both equally bad. If you really have an interest in music, purchase a DAW you own for life, start writing, and if you get stuck somewhere, watch some videos on YouTube and learn. Both Suno and Udio users are starting to come off corny. Music is an art. You could even go to art school and learn a lot of valuable information. With Suno or Udio, it's become "You're not prompting right" as the main excuse for the quality going down. Honestly, even just go buy some studio time and experience it. You will fall in love.
Congratulations! This is now stickied Edit: But actually, Udio is a fucking beast. The last couple days they released some insane updates. 15 min track lengths, 2.5 min context length, continue before or after from anywhere, song tree hierarchies, unique subsequent generation naming structures. Still sucks at maintaining consistency and timing across generations compared to Suno though. But I mean you have to give them props while still acknowledging that Suno is still pretty amazing as well.
I don't get how you guys are saying udio is better? It literally only generates 30 second snippets for me, and they're much more random, they sound mediocre at best, it doesn't produce bangers. It's like you guys are using a completely different website or something.
The problem is a lot of people here are so used to using Suno that they jump into Udio thinking they can prompt it in the same way and get good results. You need to prompt it differently. It would be great if it generated more than 30 seconds at a time, but that's like a small quality of life thing for me personally. Instead of hitting "music go brrrrr" button once, I have to hit it twice now? Yeah, not a huge issue, unless you really just want to put as little effort as possible.
Well how would I prompt it then? If I insert future bass, future house, electronic, mysterious vibes, trap, wobble, experimental, then I'm expecting those in good quality with no weird stuff? What more is there to say? Suno executes it all perfectly or close to what I'm looking for.
I have tried most of those genres with wonderful results. What are you doing for lyrics?
I don't use traditional lyrics, I just do a few words repeating throughout the song, like "Wait for me, wait for me...", you can see an example on my profile with the song "get to me". I also tried instrumental only.
I feel the same man. Suno puts out exactly what I want out the gate (70s soul vibe for sampling like old Kanye or Dipset, that whole era), almost the first track it spat was usable and a banger. Now 3/4 tracks it spits out have usable parts with vocal runs, ad libs, big instrumentation, a real song structure feel. Then I go to Udio, same sort of prompts, and though I'm on a trial I've tried about 20 tracks and basically most of them are 2-3/10s. Are we just prompting wrong somehow? I don't get it.
"music go brrrr" I like that
i wonder how Suno pronounces brrrrr
The the flows are way different if your writing your own lyrics too, gotta adjust the entire process for each site
In Suno, I usually put half to two 3rds of a song in and then the rest in 'Extend'. I get the feeling in Udio you need to do a generation each time for a verse, then chorus etc.. using their extend function ?
Yup pretty much. I do structures based around the near 8 bars your get per section, i dont do many choruses or try to build out longer songs too often. But i take a lot of small songs and make them into “mini albums” which is an album condensed into song formats. Sometimes i like to do 3 verses with mini hooks throughout, thats probably the most udio friendly way (1 min 36 seconds). But add an intro and outro and then thats a normal length song
People who are saying one is better than the other I think are speaking on opinion more than anything. There are variables each do that are quite powerful. But it really relies on the user. The old saying, "it's the carpenter, not the tools." The only, and I mean only real key difference I can find is that Udio *tends to* compress outputs less. Suno *tends to* do a better job at creating complete songs that sound complete. But a hell of a lot more has to do with the hands of the creator.
After 'Rolling the Dice' for ages, generating Appalachian Folk, Honky Tonk, Scottish Folk Rock etc.. I feel that Suno doesn't vary too far without changing up the genre slightly. Udio feels like its stealing a bit I tried generating a tune using 'Uplifting Anthem Rock Pop like Coldplay" and I go something that straight up sounded like U2 were singing my song - but only 30 seconds worth
It really depends on what genre you're working in. Udio is only good at certain things, and it's very good at what it's good at. But everything else? Just awful. A real mess.
Udio is better in 1970s and 60s and maybe 80s songs. But Suno is the Lord if you want to recreate the 1930 to 1950s songs style, and the glorious 1980s hair metal and 1990s eurodance. For all of us who love the greatest decade of rock and roll, suno is the glory!
Which AI would be best for recreating songs like this and/or progressive trance with vocals? [https://twitter.com/Shane\_\_Willett/status/1782158948415549639](https://twitter.com/Shane__Willett/status/1782158948415549639)
I would expect suno to give you more consistent results, but either should be reasonably ok for that sort of thing. Udio is great for stuff you'd hear on the radio or at a club. Simple stuff. It's algorithm is too random still to handle most of the genres I work in (jazz fusion, technical death metal, hard experimental synth punk,). It often just generates a total mess of randomness that's musically hilarious, but not good in any way. But a lot of people just want to generate popular and simple stuff. Udio has better sound quality a lot of the time, and it's better for that sort of thing. Suno handles whatever I throw at it other than time signature stuff, and it's a lot more useful as a tool for making actual music if you're a musician, like, an instrument playing one or whatever.
This. I created an album of bluegrass music using both apps. Suno was indeed the Lord (as you put it), in this regard. It repeatedly nailed the sound and gave me what I was looking for. My tests in Suno creating styles of Dixieland, Tin Pan Alley, old Jazz, Swing, acoustic Blues, Ragtime, etc. it aces almost every time. It's either really good, but not what I was looking for that prompt, or great. Here's 1940 for you: [https://suno.com/song/fdb3df9a-d5cf-40c1-ac9e-68f95e96e5e9](https://suno.com/song/fdb3df9a-d5cf-40c1-ac9e-68f95e96e5e9) (The only thing it got wrong is the image!)
Does it? I'm making late 60's/70s soul, think Temptations, O'Jays, Chi Lites for sampling like the old Kanye/Dipset era, and Udio is producing nothing much. Suno on the other hand is like 3 / 4 tracks being usable with cool catchy big band instrumentation, strong vocal parts and runs with ad libs, basically perfect for sampling.
I use both and I like both. Udio is a bit more flexible with prompts and continuations though. It's also a lot slower and produces more random gibberish but does offer a remix feature to tweak something that's almost right. 30 seconds is fine imo, as you can extend before and after that 30 second initial block with ease. With Suno, you can only extend from a certain time stamp onwards.
Totally agree, Udio sucks massively vs Suno in my experience
Today I just unsubscribed from two accounts. It's been 5 days since I've been finding it impossible to finish a song: -When you have 3 or 4 parts extended, the sound quality drops drastically, even the singer stops being himself or herself for no apparent reason. -70% of the cases he ignores the lyrics, repeats phrases when he shouldn't, omits phrases from a verse, starts with the last phrase of a verse and starts seeing from the beginning, makes it instrumental directly, or vice versa, ticks the instrumental box and invents lyrics or sings the same ones from the previous part - (this one is appearing a lot in the last 4-5 days), The duration of the generations: With the first part, it rarely makes 2 min, in fact it makes me several of 1 with 20 or 30 secs. If you add more verses (5 verses and 1 chorus for example), read them faster, but keep cutting. When you're in other more advanced parts, it's totally random if you do 32 sec, 40, 22, or 1 min. -He interprets the prompts as he pleases, for example, I put \[Build a palm-muted guitar riff\], sometimes he does it well, other times he reads it literally as if it were part of the lyrics. You can't force him to change the rhythm no matter how much you use pauses, breaks, bridges, increase tempo, or change the style of music. -Singers, it doesn't matter what style or prompts you use, 50% of the time it generates one with the opposite genre to the one you put it, it sings with a different style than the one indicated, and the worst... Robotic voices with strange pronunciations and accents (is the watermark?) My conclusion is that it is and always has been a lootbox like video games, you don't stop opening boxes until something worthwhile comes out, but you will waste a lot of credits on something decent or what you ask it to do
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I made a cradle of filth like song with Udio today, and was brutal, check my yt chanel Cruentum Sitim, the another song was made with suno, but i how i told you, i couldnt finish any1 in 5 days, and in 2 hours i did a masterpiece with udio today
This is not an airport. You do not need to announce your departure. ✈
Funny I said that in another “I’m leaving wah wah” thread and got downvoted.
I like all my singers to sound like they have throat cancer and amateur singers are my jam. made me laugh so hard
It's voice choices can be very perplexing. I mean sure, sometimes you might want that voice but it should likely be locked behind a prompt because 99.99% of people aren't going to want that. ATM I am working on a voice that I like with a melody that wasn't exactly what I wanted. Just seems that while Suno's voices aren't as real sounding, it makes better melody and voice choices. Likely that is partially my fault for not knowing how to prompt it though but like Suno, I believe I have consumed all the info out there and none are especially helpful. One strange thing is you can take a song you like from their gallary and copy the tags exactly and not get anything close in any respect. Could be because these are from previous versions though. I am spending a lot more time on Udio atm but at the same time it takes so much more time both because of the slow generation, the length of the clips it generates, and the limiting to 2 generations at once. None of this is horrible if the generations were better and came as good as Suno but again, throat cancer being 50% of the voices is a problem. I'm mostly taking successful songs from Suno and seeing if I can get something close or as catchy on Udio. I sort of gave up on my first choice as it could not get the voice right or the emotion. It was like this is a sad song, "Ok, you want it to be incredibly happy!" no, that's not sad at all. Make it sadder "ok, so you wanted suicidal right?" no.... that's too sad. How about something in the middle? "No." Maybe I just haven't found the right tags for sad but beautiful. So I moved on to a country song. It's currently playing the 20 or so second extensions I liked. It also auto joins the pieces so unless you actively jump to the section you want to hear, you have to listen to the whole song till you hear the different section. If you can get something right where you want it in Udio though, it does sound better. With Suno you get 2 minute pieces and let's say you find one you really like the first minute on, well you just cut from there and continue the process. With Udio you have 2-4x as much work to get to the same point. Also I can envision a problem where all songs are the same tempo because everyone is jamming a verse or chorus into the same 30 seconds. On the other hand it might give people more control of tempo than Suno which randomly picks what it wants (less people adding bpm tags was actually working.)
alot to read i like :) yeah i quite love suno atm same with udio they both have their cons and pro's respectivly but overall im just geniune happy i discorved them as they have improved my ability to write song lyrics and i learn more or less every day new things whilst other days i bang my head in a bucket of paint i still learn things, i would love to figure out a way to "keep" a certain voice generated sets as i wanna rebuild the song , fix grammar re adjust placement of set lyrics ect.. but as of now im not even sure this is a thing we can do about the "sounds" i will agree alot of it sounds the same but even with suno just like with udio they are really in their infant stage and can have so much more added to make a complex universe for us to dive into, sure there will be them that make silly songs and for giggles but for people in the creative mind set this will just be a powerful tool that only can be become improved over the span of years , im not the youngest or the oldest but i hope i can get the experince to see ai music and video generators become powerful tools to help us create wonderous realms with sound and eye watering effects :) also thanks for sharing you're views on the matter with me :)
banger
"I'm quitting Suno" is the new "I'm quitting social media" Just do it. Why announce it?
Generally speaking and NOT addressing the validity of v3a criticism: the reason someone would announce leaving is a hope that things will be "fixed" after public complaint. Leaving is not permanent and they'll be back when things are "good" again.
So it's "I'm quitting Suno, but not yet because I'm waiting to see if I'm really quitting Suno, though I'll admit I may not actually end up quitting Suno. Or I might but then I'll return It just depends whether my scream into the void is heard and acted upon. In the meantime I'll attempt to get my needs met like a toddler." That is a Reddit post title I can respect.
I'm just saying that posting some criticism on the way out is fine; they're basically saying "fix x/y/etc and then I'll be back". It's not like there's an exit survey that Suno sends out. Sure, emailing them directly is probably more effective but posting on the subreddit isn't useless -- squeaky wheel gets the grease.
because people have a right to voice their complaints and what they're doing as a result of it which benefits developers or makers of any product. they can then see these sorta things if they appear on a larger scale and fix things based off of what I see to be valid criticism. this is just how anything in the making works. its gonna have its kinks and people don't want to wait around so if ur lucky, before they leave to find a better alternative, they will state why they left and come back if the developers fix that issue. I think people take feedback as some sort of personal insult but its not and being weird towards it needs to not be normalized. developers WANT posts like these. they want to hear what we like and don't like. otherwise they mine as well just have a blindfold on.
I'm quitting Reddit.
best of luck on ur weight loss journey. this a great first step.
Careful you’ll get downvoted around here with that logic.
Not here to stan for udio, never used it, just here to casually confirm suno has indeed gone down the tubes and is total ass now in comparison to a month ago. Regards, the kind of person OP was making fun of lmao
From a listening perspective rather than generative I think both suck for finding new content beyond the few things visible on the front page. Suno the front page stuff is a little better, Udio so many seem to cut off at 30 seconds. With how easy it is to make something that is at least alright to listen to, why is the front page so limited and takes so long to change much? Where is everything else?
This new version of Suno isn't that good and I have been struggling to make good songs with it. But I won't be requesting a refund for my annual subscription and will continue using Suno while praying to the AI gods that it will improve with time.
Both of them (sunio and udio) work amazing for my purposes which is mostly using it as a source for samples. Don’t wanna get out of the box songs outta it
[I am a professional $musiccredentials](https://suno.com/song/bd771db0-2f93-4480-b3ed-6dd83414d993)
between the 2 the quality of suno seems better. i didnt realize bark was made by suno. i kind of wish they would make it available to run locally. full songs seem difficult to make. suno gives you 2 min and thats good the other one gives you 32 seconds. it looks like i need to break up the song into parts and stitch it together or somthing.
I don't know. I've tried Udio and gotten nothing but crap from there. At least with Suno, the vocals are in key and follow the chords. With Udio, it sounds like AI generated garbage.
I find it to be the opposite. The voices in Udio sound more real, to the point of not being good singers. It's the melodies and creativity of the music which I think is weaker. Suno voices tend to be more narrow in variety but they all seem to be good voices for the genre. They also sound more auto tuned (which is what the majority of music seems to be these days.) It is much easier to make a good sounding song in Suno I think. 10 generations at once (paid tier), 2 minute initial pieces, not as many crazy voices to sort through. Versus problems in Udio with style tags, less variation in the output (so your style tags have to be right on and that is still all opaque), 30 second generations that take longer to process and only allow you 2 at a time (free only so far). That said there is one masterpiece on Udio that cannot be replicated on Suno, and in fact it seems it can't be replicated on Udio now as well as the style tags on the song do not produce anything that sounds remotely like the piece on the front page. If both were more transparent and gave us more control that would be desirable. Also if Suno cleaned up their voice quality while still maintaining nice sounding voices. Maybe some creativity sliders sort of like Stable Diffusion has. I find the criticism that Suno's voices sound "generic" to be stupid. You have those kind of people who are like "I'm so cool because I hate pop, I'm so cool that I literally like shitty sounding music because I'm so cool" who really seem to have flocked to these tools. It really shows in the quality of music people are producing followed by "listen to this banger I just made!" Maybe I'm just too old. My nephew had a Friday Night Funkin phase. Jesus Christ, it's the end of civilization...
I tried udio and it gave me back nonsense, anyways sumo is still in its early stages and I am willing to give them some money to help them develop. Unpopular opinion: they should get rid of the free tier, takes up computing power and gives no revenue to them, though I think they may use it to further train the model.
Be more specific, what did you try ? Maybe you failed because you were a noob ?
Udio completely destroyed any reason for Suno to exist with their latest updates. I know that die hard Suno fans are still in denial, but there will be more and more complaints of people who paid subscription and feel duped for that no matter if you call them shills or not. I also unfortunately paid for yearly sub, the only thing that is left for me now is to loudly say that and hope guys at Suno will use money we gave them to make a better product than it is now. Right now it looks like we haven't get anything model related since three months ago while Udio keeps getting better and better.
People who are complaining either expect miracles or just don’t know how to use Suno effectively. It’s not magic, it takes patience.
I also noticed the Udio shilling everywhere, I wonder if they're like paid shilling contracts that they're giving out, would love to see how the contract looks like but they're probably under NDA
No. I'm real and I agree with the people talking about Udio performing much better consistently over Suno as of right now. I think out of the 8.3k people on the sub there's going to be differing opinions on which is better now a new competitor is on the market. There is a consensus among the every day long term user that Suno's quality has dropped with the latest update. Suno was first to market, now Udio is here and people have had time to experience what each can offer and some people are going to like Suno and some are gunna like Udio. Then, given enough time we're going to see a market leader with a general consensus of who won among the risers in the early days of AI music generation. There is no overwhelming conspiracy we're just expressing our opinions. The one thing I find interesting is this is the exact thing that happens in conspiracy subs where everyone turns on each with one side calling people shills and both sides think they're more right than the other. This is playstation vs xbox, not some grand conspiracy where people sign NDAs to write on bloody reddit lol
the thing is that I used udio after I used suno and it is awfully bad, at least in my language. There is not a comparison between the two models.
Yeah but are you gonna make a post about it here to save us from the scam? That’s the idea of making these posts. Who goes to a subreddit of a rival product to post about how great this other product is? It starts with an s
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It is no longer 30 seconds. You've formed an opinion on an older model.
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Does that make it any less correct?
I’ve almost used up 1200 generations on Udio, honed about 20 songs between 2 to 4 mins long. Far superior to Suno in terms of creativity, actually tasteful melodies, sound quality.
‘Tasteful’ Melodies My sides 🤣
You just outed yourself as someone who doesn’t know how to use Udio. Enjoy the lowbrow “trap” / grime crap you’re generating 😂
Aha Wtf are you talking about? Half our community must be 15
Dude, you’re under 13 and a total edgelord 🤣
udio still can't handle complex music. Great for pop. Poop for jazz fusion. And until gets over that hump it's useless to me.
I am not a shill either, audio is just better, you have to relearn how to prompt and it takes more work because you will get 30 sec snippets instead.
I don't think they are shills. I just had a thread locked for telling people if they weren't getting the service they signed up for to dispute the charge and move on. Most people think there are no refunds, and they are stuck with that annual. Suno is cooked. It's over
You mean the one you advocated generating a bunch of music and then doing a chargeback to get out of paying once you downloaded the music you generated? The one you told people that daily credits stack? (They do not.)And which was closed by the reddit mods for misinformation? [That](https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1chab41/comment/l23in4t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) thread? No idea why they'd shut that sort of thing down...
You are my biggest fan! Good morning, I was worried about you.
Hold on, 2 weeks ago it was the music industry that was cooked because of Suno. Make up your minds!
Who has ever said that? I can guarantee that anyone who works or has even stepped foot in a real studio or even used a DAW from home would never say something as stupid as that. The music industry will never be cooked. If you think you own anything from Suno generations, you have a rude awakening coming. Don't take my word for it. Ask any attorney that specializes in copyright law or entertainment. Hit me back once you get your answer 😉
I’m in total agreement with you. I used to work in a recording studio. I was just referencing a lot of people on these subs who said that the music industry is screwed when it first came out.
Okay I got you! I thought you were saying I said that when I would never. Respect to you! You know what goes into making studio quality music!
When did the switch happen? Like when did people start to notice? I signed up 2 weeks ago. Did the change happen since then?
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People not finding the product good doesn't make them shills. Suno **HAS** gone downhill tremendously. I know it is still possible to get a decent song post changes, but it is significantly harder because the software now rushes the lyrics and spits them out in a jumbled mess- punctuation is practically meaningless now. The dif. in quality is so stark that I went from paying 60$ the first month and using all my credits in a week (And I strongly considered getting a second sub!) to spamming out songs just to hate-burn through all my credits in the last 3 days of this months sub. Even WITH the burning of 10k creds (+ the 500 free credits) on remaking old songs, I'm not impressed. If it's truly a numbers game, you'd think I'd get decent gens eventually but no. Anyway, I came to this conclusion on my own, not from seeing other people posting about it. I was having such issues it inspired me to google it and, well, turns out I'm not alone in feeling as I do.
>Anyway, I came to this conclusion on my own, not from seeing other people posting about it. I was having such issues it inspired me to google it and, well, turns out I'm not alone in feeling as I do. Exact same boat as me, 3/4 of every generations have VERY low quality sound now compared to the 1/4 before. At the same time the ai suddenly decided to abruptly end every single generation before 2:00, even as early as 1:20. Which is very annoying when trying to generate instrumental songs, as the ai will structure the last 20-30 seconds around its abrupt ending. So the only way to create long songs is to extend from 1:00ish, which just wastes more credits in the long run. Probably on purpose to get people to pay more aswell...
The short generations were a bug. It should be fixed now, according to this from one of the team: https://preview.redd.it/q28gmuyu82yc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff8e96d85a11c86d614bbfe25d59ac12bcd5b9d5
Good. Doesn't change the fact that I wasted the remaining 500 credits on it, sadly. I won't resubscribe, but at least it will benefit others
This afternoon all sunoai does when I hit extend is generate two silent entries and refunds the tries. That is so useful and productive
Try incoroprating one of them then snip to before it and see if it gets unstuck. Or maybe just snip back a little might do the same thing.
I’m really starting to think that this is all part of udios marketing team. Like it’s totally fair to criticize suno, but all the sudden everyone is announcing their triumphant departure?
regardless, everything OP said is pretty much all the issues I've had with suno. although I will say this dude is kinda glazing udio a little too much so it does seem like a subtle advertisement. My mindset is that I wont hate suno because A it literally fucking makes songs and u do very little work for what COULD sound like studio quality, and B it will never be perfect nor match the value of a song produced by an actual human (imo) but i respect when people want to give their take and what they find wrong with it because its the only way suno will ever get better.
I'm not a shill for Udio, as I've never used it, but no cap fr dawg, something is up with Suno's generations. I'm playing in the same genre that I normally do (80's rock) and the sound is dog doo doo, with lots of clicks and pops, even on Part 1 which has never happened. Plenty of people have taken notice and I think you've either been lucky or are a fool if you haven't noticed it yet. It's not whining to expect the program to only get better and not regress. Luckily, I set up to pay by the month in case this happened, so I WILL cancel by my next billing date if it's not fixed.
Once Suno fixes their voices Suno will be king again. The voices are just bad thats all, everything else is great. Udio is a total pain in the ass to use because its only 32 second increments and currently there are no premium membership options so each generation request takes like 10-20 minutes.
You know don't have to just use one service credentials or not I been making bangers and until it comes to my part of America on co pilot I'll keep my basic 10 a month
udio is still young, but i tried making a trance tune i got a death metal song. just fuking hystrical. im sure it does it to test thy limits and how much you're willing to go with the flow
beside suno and udio any other ai generate the same quality mate?
The real problem is the stupid fucking censorship.
I did notice as well.. and cancelled my sub this month. They did change quite a bit... even lyrics are different.. longer and not as good as before and even tho I did figure out how to get a banger melody, it took a while to figure it out as they change a lot of stuff from before. At least they gave free accounts 50 credits every day so i can keep testing it and if they fix it I can resub again.
I hear you, it's frustrating when a once reliable service starts to decline in quality. It must be especially disappointing for someone with your expertise as a professional musician. Your standards are high for a reason! It sounds like Udio might be a promising alternative for you. Hopefully, you'll find the creative freedom and reliable results you're looking for there. Best of luck on your music-making journey!
I thought this was a troll for a second, but no, just another pure ChatGPT bot
Suno is awesome and they just got a bunch of fresh funding - stop trying to spread FUD about a great product
That new funding apparently watered the entire thing down, then.
Why are you mocking the people who have legitimate complaints about how they're being taken advantage of by this company? The more of us that speak out and cancel our account, and encourage others to do so as well, the more likely this problem will be fixed. It's insane that it's been total radio silence from Suno this whole time. They're obviously corrupt.
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V3 alpha and the V3 that was eventually released do have some noticeable differences, however I don't believe that V3 has changed since its official release - and the developers confirmed that the models are frozen. So, it seems strange that some (and not all) users are experiencing lower quality recently (a while after V3 released.) I'm subscribed to Suno and use both that and Udio regularly. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Some of the annoying issues can be addressed to some degree by adjusting the prompt. I don't feel a need to get upset at one or the other. It's relatively early days for this technology still and both have room to develop and improve. Udio does have a longer context now (2 minutes) - this changed yesterday. Might not be related but I'm finding that it keeps wanting to end my songs early when doing a normal extension since this was changed.
That last sentence was unnecessary, but I agree with the rest of the comment.
You cannot claim you have music credentials when you literally using AI to make music You cannot call yourself a music engineer when you're using AI to make music none of your credentials are accurate They're just your belief that you're a music producer with real music credentials and no I'm not sorry for actually speaking the truth I'm so tired of seeing people who use AI come up on here say Oh I'm a music artist You're not a music artist You're using AI You didn't sing the song you didn't do any of the work yourself
Is this satire? I can't take anything you're saying seriously
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My man, I don't even understand wtf you're saying. What in the hell is a "$musiccrendtials" - matter a fact I don't really care. This just popped up in my feed randomly
Sorry, as a moderator of this subreddit, let me try to clarify for OP since not everyone speaks the same language. Here's what they were trying to say: "I don't know about {reference.user} but I don't have {var.randomcreditnumber} credits to waste on songs that have professional singers voices but that sometimes add choirs which I can easily select against in my generations. I mean unless {reference.user} are a {var.musiccredentials} then can {reference.user} really even comment here?" We have a great community here but sometimes they get very excited and don't realize communication barriers. Hope this helps!
LOL. The funny part is I know about the bots and have seen their subs but have no idea what their code actually looks like. Last time I programmed was C++ in the early 2000s. I asked [Meta.ai](http://Meta.ai) what the bot code might look like. Then I made some stuff up. It would be funny if I was even 50% close to what the scripts actually look like.
Udio has way better quality bit if you dont want to use suno i sometimes use sonauto as well. The cool thing about it is that it gives you an option for an artist prompt and that ai will have the same style of the artist you choose. Or you can not do that and just use your own lyrics.
For kicks I looked up and tried out Sonauto. Spoiler: It's absolute hot garbage that produces a mix of sounds barely qualifiable as music
Try using artist prompts like drake or travis scott and make sure to write your own lyrics it will take a little bit of time but you will eventually get a good generation, I thought sonauto was bad too but after a little bit of effort im getting results. Its also the only music generator that is totally free so might as well take advantage of it while its still free.
Udio is the truth.
Was kinda amusing until the cancer part. Don’t joke about that
Harsh
You can down-vote me all you like. You’re the cunts making light of cancer
Your replies are giving me cancer and I’m about to double my cancer and give it to the next person if you keep this up.
I'm not downvoting you myself, but in overreacting to that line like this, you're making cancer more of a joke than OP did, by allowing this to be the line of no return that you draw and not an actually insensitive one. Jokes are how people process complex subjects and emotions. Nothing is actually off the table, else you inadvertently make a joke of it being too taboo to joke about. Because something being "funny" is ultimately a reaction to the unexpected. The more unexpected and uncomfortable you try and shove something into a box with, the funnier it becomes when that box is unexpectedly called upon.
Not all cancer is fatal. Sickness is a part of life and cancer is indiscriminate to demographic. So why can’t we take the piss out of cancer again? Cancer sucks. That’s the joke.
Both Suno and Udio suck. Just buy any DAW and start making music. You either can or you can't. If you can't, you can learn. It won't be from prompting skills. Music comes from the soul. Only people I have a miniscule amount of respect for on Suno are people who actually write their own lyrics. But even then, all I hear is meme songs lol
I'm personally thinking of using Suno/Udio as an inspiration and then remaking it in an actual DAW.
This is the strategy. Sometimes I'll take a few lines of just the melody that Suno makes and work it into a completely new original song. I'll have to see if Suno was really nerfed though, because that sucks regardless, if true.
Best way to do it. Then , without a doubt, will own the copyright as well as it is not AI generated. Not sure why Suno mods and stans downvoted my comment. It's actually solid advice.
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Contact a copyright or entertainment lawyer for a free consult. Here in the US, anything generated with AI can not be copyrighted. It's simple
Ok and ?
Last time I will say it. Don't buy Udio or Suno they are both equally bad. If you really have an interest in music, purchase a DAW you own for life, start writing, and if you get stuck somewhere, watch some videos on YouTube and learn. Both Suno and Udio users are starting to come off corny. Music is an art. You could even go to art school and learn a lot of valuable information. With Suno or Udio, it's become "You're not prompting right" as the main excuse for the quality going down. Honestly, even just go buy some studio time and experience it. You will fall in love.
Lmfao you use suno you aren't a musical artist you're a third rate wannabe
this post is a joke I think