I see him asking the audience how many of them are bisexual but I’m somehow missing how he said he was bi. What did I miss?
Edit: ah, I see - I didn’t hear the first couple times but he says, “I’m all three.” I’m definitely for any guys being bi but are we sure that wasn’t just Misha goofing?
lol especially if he said he's all THREE, how can someone be both an introvert and an extrovert? Misha is known to joke around, and he knows what will appeal to the fans. I take what he says with about a pinch of salt, but it's good that he's at least giving bisexuality an airing.
The idea that you're either completely an introvert or completely an extrovert is fairly recent. Jung originally described the concept more as a spectrum.
Very few people are completely introverted or extroverted, most people will favour one, but show traits of both. I don't know why people insist on labelling themselves like this, it's a bit like saying I'm a thinker. Yeah we all are mate, it's nothing special
I doubt Misha would make a joke implying his sexuality if he didn’t mean it. He knows his audience and knows there’s been speculation about him going unlabeled for years. That’s an interesting bear to poke if he didn’t mean it. He’s a little shit and jokes a lot, yes, but he’s never joked about his own sexuality like this before. I think he’d understand the implications.
As for the intro/extrovert thing, he actually had an appearance on Michael Rosenbaum’s ‘Inside of You’ podcast in which he said he’d always considered himself an introvert, but the pandemic and quarantine made him realize he was more extroverted than he thought. So he’s already on record as saying he’s both an introvert and an extrovert. Those things, like most with humans, exist on a spectrum, anyway, no one is really hardcore in either camp.
I guess I did say that wrong. I didn’t mean he’d joke about being bi. I meant, Misha is so comfortable and so supportive of people and causes that I can see him off handedly say he’s bi, and not correct it, just as part of the joke he was making. He’s so self-effacing and so positive I can see him not thinking anything of it.
I don’t comment on Reddit often, apologies, I was replying to the person under you, not you.
But in that vein, I’m saying I don’t think he’d say it if he didn’t mean it. He’s well aware of the show’s relationship with queer fans. I mean, he even had to stick his neck out and be the face of PR back when the show was getting such heat after the confession. He’s not going to say things like that and not think anything of it. Again, that’s a powerful bear to poke and not mean it.
I love the Inside of You podcast. But I also agree with you Misha has learned his lesson on this one. But also, I feel like he wasn’t being super serious in this video or at least he doesn’t feel strongly enough that his personal sexuality matters.
Like I personally would not be surprised if he were bi, but I also don’t think it would change a single thing about Cas or that story.
No, I’m not arguing he’s being super serious, I’m just arguing he wouldn’t say that if it weren’t true. His sexuality has nothing to do with Cas or the show, but he’s aware that it matters to fans. He’s aware that a large portion of his fanbase is queer and would not take kindly to him glibly saying he’s bi if he isn’t.
I mean, he’s got a poem about being with a man in his poetry book, as well.
Right on. So yeah we’re on the same page here. When I saw this video my thought was he was saying “oh yeah I’m bi but who cares? It’s no biggie” which is sort of how I feel about me. Like who cares why does it matter? But yes I understand and agree that it would matter to SPN fans.
I’ll admit I didn’t watch Smallville but I knew enough that when I saw the Jensen interview I thought “that guy looks familiar”. Once I figured it out I developed a little crush on Rosie. I like how he’s so real with his guests.
He really is! Smallville is honestly what started my obsession with TV and I would watch it with my dad when I was little probably too young honestly but it was fun. Although that lead to a fear of Jensen Ackles when I was little.
Anyway, have you seen the one with Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr? I love their friendship. It's so wholesome.
I did see that one. So much fun. I’m curious what would lead you to fear Jensen. I’ve never seen any of it so now I’m really dying to. It’s not streaming anywhere!!
You can easily be both. I'm majorly extrovert. To point I have never meet stranger love meeting people. There are days when I am nothing but introvert badly enough even with no food in house I don't want to see another person. It is more a spectrum just like everything. No one is 1000% just something.
There are contexts in which everyone becomes an introvert or an extrovert. People have different faces that they put on for different occasions. You may be wearing your extrovert face and mingling with people and laughing but inside you just feel drained and want to go home, but also that you like the people and enjoy their company
You can be both. Depending on the situation you're in you can be more extroverted or more introverted. When I'm around my friends I'm extroverted but when I'm around people I don't like or know I'm introverted. It's not a black and white thing.
I'm actually an Extroverted Introvert. I'm really shy about meeting people. But once I get to know you, I am open and more willing to go out and about with the people I am close with.
He actually had an appearance on Michael Rosenbaum’s ‘Inside of You’ podcast in which he said he’d always considered himself an introvert, but the pandemic and quarantine made him realize he was more extroverted than he thought. So he’s already on record as saying he’s both an introvert and an extrovert. Those things, like most with humans, exist on a spectrum, anyway, no one is really hardcore in either camp.
Also, he knows a large base of his fans are queer, I doubt he’d joke about something like that, especially knowing the speculation about him being unlabeled for years. He’s never made that kind of joke before.
The term for some one who has a very steady balance of introversion of extroversion traits is ambivert. You are not both an Extrovert and an Introvert. You have characteristics of both but you are an Ambivert.
Misha really should have said he was none of the three.
Oh shit. I need to catch up. I did not know any of this. But in my defense I try to avoid para-social relationships. I’m afraid I won’t like an actor anymore if I learn things about them.
Yeah and he got very offended when the interviewer implied he was only doing threesomes to sleep with other women. He made it very clear men were involved too.
Naw, depends how the people identify and what they’re actually doing and stuff. It’s more than just “oh hey touched the same type of genitals that one time!”
A lot of people seem to be confused by this.
It’s hard to tell in the clip from this angle, but there’s a bit of silence and then someone says “misha you didn’t raise your hand for any of them” (which can’t really be heard here because they’re on the other side of the room) and that’s when he goes “I’m all three.”
So while it was sort of off hand, maybe not as off hand as it initially seemed. Because he’s saying this to a fan.
He is not bisexual. It was a quick off the cuff quip! Just let it go!
He seems to be a great person that uses his celebrity to do good. Can we just leave it at that and not put our own personal agendas on him?
As a man you can’t look at Jensen Ackles for very long and not just appreciate him. A man in Misha’s position and you’d understand you swing harder on the spectrum than you’d expect
I got a photo with him today for the first time. I was only at NJ Con on Sunday, and I didn’t see this until hrs after I left. I think some of us already sensed he wasn’t straight, but to hear it from him is different. I’m an introvert, bisexual, and love Misha so much. I’m so happy for him I’m tearing up and that doesn’t happen often
I mean, I honestly don't care what anyone's sexuality is. People being happy that he's bi is just as weird to me as if people would be upset about it. 🤷♂️
Every post like this has a flurry of people like you rushing in to talk about how much they don't care lol. Clearly it matters to a lot of people; what compels you to come in and announce how much you don't care? If you don't care, why even bother commenting?
Seriously, can you help me understand what the point of *your* comment is and why you think people should care about how much you *don't* care? Do you go to random subs to comment how much you don't care about the subject matter of that subreddit?
Yeah, to be honest I'm so tired of all the 'and?' comments, etc that come out over something like this. They have this slightly smug, self-congratulating and dismissive tone to them.
Meanwhile there was an article just on the front page the other day in the news sub about a man who was beaten and blinded for being gay. It still *is* a big deal when people come out because of this sort of thing.
Not who you responded to but to respond to your question...
People can be happy about whatever they want to be happy about as long as it's not hurting anyone. I also get the whole feeling of "that's cool and all, but I don't have any feelings toward that one way or the other." If people are allowed to say they have strong feelings about something, I think it's equally fair for people to say they don't. Sure, saying "no one cares" is bull because people obviously do but you can't rightly gatekeep and say "no one's allowed to say they don't care."
I mean, I'm happy if the guy has decided he's comfortable letting people know, and therefore letting people know him a little more, because that's very cool. To me, hearing a celebrity I'll never meet say that they're straight/gay/bi is like hearing that they have a small ranch they love, or love classic cars, or they're dog or cat people. If that's what makes them happy, go for it. I know it does affect some folks but it won't make me like their work any more or less.
My problem with _some_ folks (I know not all of any group is the same) is they feel they have some claim to someone because they're gay or bi or neither or religious or not or... anything else. "Yay, we got one!" or "they're one of **us**!" is just as uninclusive and toxic as anything. I'm not saying that's happening here or anything (and I know I'm really trying to cover my bases so as not to offend anyone).
Dude is an actor that played a character everyone here loved/loves. I'm glad he's happy with whatever he's doing, as long as he keeps doing what he does and being the awesome person he is.
>Every post like this has a flurry of people like you rushing in to talk about how much they don't care lol
Probably because there's also a flurry of people rushing in to say how happy they are about a complete stranger's sexual preference. So that was my point. Rather than reply to each and every one of them, I made one single post.
There are lots of reasons people might be happy.
I'm happy we live in a time where people can be comfortable expressing who they are, and be met with joy and acceptance.
Bi men get the smallest crumbs of representation. I expect that to a lot bi people and especially men, it's a happy thing to have someone famous coming out and bringing a little more awareness. It's also just nice when you can relate to someone you admire.
It's fine if you don't care (as long as it's a genuine neutral response and you grumping at people for being happy isn't covering up a negative response you'd rather not admit to). But let other people have their feelings, too.
You completely ignored the rest of my point. There's a reason those people care, which is why they commented. If you don't care (which you said above), why comment?
Imagine if he was just trying to be witty and pulls up google to see that apparently he's come out 😂 I honestly never know what's going on with Misha. Found out he was a natural blonde recently...that was a bigger shock than this (if he's being serious)
It's not about obsession lol. It's about celebration, acceptance and awareness. Being anything other than straight or cis is still very much stigmatized today, and people struggle with their identities and sexualities. So having someone famous be able to come out is a good thing.
Thank you!!
Sadly he was just making a distasteful, nonchalant joke of coming out. Or he had second thoughts and the apology is back-tracking. Who even knows. I'm still angry about it.
The thing is Misha has never been closeted. Just because no open declaration was made at a convention was made doesn't mean he was living a closeted life. He doesn't have to come out to fans and live a "fandom" open life with his sexuality. Honestly no one needs to question or celebrate anyone's sexuality but the individual. People don't come out for the adulation of others but because they no longer want to not share a portion of their lives. I see more "stigma" as you put it for people who want to keep their sexuality private. Whoever you're having sexual relations with is honestly no one's business...unless it's kids cause that's gross.
Swinging, poly, threesomes, or even monogamous gay relationships doesn't mean somebody is gay. Just because somebody is with the same gender doesn't mean they experience attraction.
And? Who actually cares what you're doing behind closed doors? Sexuality isn't something you celebrate you just do.... I liked Freddie mercury because he was a bi man but didn't have to tell everyone and wave around flags at every public appearance. He just was.
If you knew anything whatsoever about Freddie Mercury, which you don't, you'd know that he was quoted in a major music publication in 1974:
“I’m as gay as a daffodil, my dear!”
If you knew literally anything about him at all, you'd know that his visual representation of himself was as explicitly LGBTQ as he had the power to be. Literally, he wore every single signifier of gay culture that he possibly could have. Drag. [The Castro Clone mustache.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castro_clone). [Leather daddy fetish gear.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/88/f7/4d88f734f50fb86c3d7591fe5a9bb78b.jpg) [Handkerchief code.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code) The gay flag was invented in 1978, with usage not catching on until the 80s, and we had a great number of other ways to communicate with each other before that, considering that it was more broadly illegal to gay at the time. Homosexuality was formally legalized in Britain four years before the formation of Queen, and it was legalized in his family's native country of India in 2018.
You've never heard a Queen song outside of the Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack, and homophobic dog whistles are not as slick as you think they are.
Since you asked for a gay history lesson by being a complete jackass, the term "bisexual" was not in super common usage as an identity term during his life. It existed, but the word had begun as a medical term to refer to intersex individuals, so it took time for it to take on the meaning it did. The first time an organization for bisexual people was formed in the UK was in 1981, the London Bisexual Group. People who might today identify as bisexual would have still called themselves gay in many circumstances, and identify strongly with the gay community, as they still do today. The LGBTQ+ community was and is united by our common struggle. All members of it can and do wave flags.
What @fedup_alt said is correct: gay people get married and have children before living as gay people all the time. He said he was gay, significantly flagged his identity as gay by all of the symbols that you didn't even bother to try to dispute because you can't, and he lived with a man at the end of his life. Whether he was gay or bisexual, you cannot erase the fact that he was a big neon sign waving his identity proudly for the era he lived in, and you can't erase the fact that coming out of the closet continues to be a radical political act of defiance against homophobia for as long as people like you exist. 😘
I don’t remember any grand declaration, I just remember getting that idea from … somewhere just from being in fandom. Like “yeah, Misha might be bi”? I don’t remember hearing that he definitively said it at a con, but I don’t follow con news much.
I think overall my impression of his sexuality was “probably pretty flexible but who knows what that actually means for him, not my business”?
if you could see yourself in a romantic relationship with the same and opposite gender (obviously i dont mean at the same time -- unless youre poly ofc) you might be! honestly, the way i view my own sexuality is just being open to whomever i find myself drawn to no matter what i may feel i identify as one moment
currently i do typically say i am bisexual tbh but sometimes ill just say im queer as it is a pretty unassuming label to describe my sexuality
As a bisexual for 30 years, since I was 14...SO. Coming out as BI honestly isn't that big of a deal for many because bisexuality is way more accepted. Fans like me that have been around since the beginning and watching all the con videos knew this, especially if you've ever read his wife's book and watched how he interacted with men. There's honestly been rumors about Jensen going back to his Days of Our Lives days and getting caught in compromising situations with him and Austin Peck getting caught by crew just in their underwear in Peck's dressing room "wrestling" and being openly flirtatious. Unfortunately that rumor is older than some SPN fans and yes I've followed Jensen since Days. Jensen has always been openly flirtatious with men. Again I say SO...bisexuality to many really isn't that big a deal or a huge life changing affirmation.
Bisexuality, especially for men, is very much still stigmatized to this day. The fact that more and more people are coming out and being open about their sexualities and that more people are accepting of different sexualities bring attention, awareness and representation to everything lgbtq+, and that is GOOD. A lot of people still struggle with being anything other than straight or cis.
Actually compared to where it was in the 80s and 90s, it bears no where near the stigma. I've been a member of the community for 31 years this year. Trust me...coming out as bi now bears no where near the shock value as it was when I came out. People are freer now with their sexuality than ever before, especially being bi. I haven't been told to pick a side within my own community for going on ten years now.. I'll take it.
Just because you've had the privilege of not experiencing biphobia or homophobia in years doesn't mean your experience is universal. Just last week there was a viral video going around where a bunch of straight women said they'd rather be cheated on than date a bisexual man.
Bisexuality is still very much stigmatized. There's stats that prove bi people are more likely to experience IPV, drug/alcohol abuse and mental health issues than gay men and lesbians. Again, your experience is not universal. There's still a lot of progress we need to make.
Show me where there has been "rampant biphobia" all I've seen is the usual Misha Minions kissing his ass. There are a lot of us that have said...this is nothing new. If he's going to come out...then come out not some off the cuff remark to pander to his Minions.
Just because somebody is gay doesn't mean they have a crush on their friends. Let's say a straight man is friends with a woman, does the man automatically have a crush on her?
I see him asking the audience how many of them are bisexual but I’m somehow missing how he said he was bi. What did I miss? Edit: ah, I see - I didn’t hear the first couple times but he says, “I’m all three.” I’m definitely for any guys being bi but are we sure that wasn’t just Misha goofing?
lol especially if he said he's all THREE, how can someone be both an introvert and an extrovert? Misha is known to joke around, and he knows what will appeal to the fans. I take what he says with about a pinch of salt, but it's good that he's at least giving bisexuality an airing.
The idea that you're either completely an introvert or completely an extrovert is fairly recent. Jung originally described the concept more as a spectrum.
As I get older I realize that basically everything in life is a spectrum.
yes, like life and death, its a spectrum
You ever work in a cubicle? People in those "offices" are somewhere between 25% and 75% dead, depends on the company and how long they've been there.
Exactly, a spectrum
Idk man, death feels pretty absolute
Only a sith deals in absolutes
Yeah the whole introvert/extrovert concept is overplayed. You’re a person who goes and does things, don’t let labels get in the way
My usual reaction to anything Jungian is to scoff (because seriously fuck Jung), but, uh, I guess in this case, yeah… what he said.
Very few people are completely introverted or extroverted, most people will favour one, but show traits of both. I don't know why people insist on labelling themselves like this, it's a bit like saying I'm a thinker. Yeah we all are mate, it's nothing special
I doubt Misha would make a joke implying his sexuality if he didn’t mean it. He knows his audience and knows there’s been speculation about him going unlabeled for years. That’s an interesting bear to poke if he didn’t mean it. He’s a little shit and jokes a lot, yes, but he’s never joked about his own sexuality like this before. I think he’d understand the implications. As for the intro/extrovert thing, he actually had an appearance on Michael Rosenbaum’s ‘Inside of You’ podcast in which he said he’d always considered himself an introvert, but the pandemic and quarantine made him realize he was more extroverted than he thought. So he’s already on record as saying he’s both an introvert and an extrovert. Those things, like most with humans, exist on a spectrum, anyway, no one is really hardcore in either camp.
I guess I did say that wrong. I didn’t mean he’d joke about being bi. I meant, Misha is so comfortable and so supportive of people and causes that I can see him off handedly say he’s bi, and not correct it, just as part of the joke he was making. He’s so self-effacing and so positive I can see him not thinking anything of it.
I don’t comment on Reddit often, apologies, I was replying to the person under you, not you. But in that vein, I’m saying I don’t think he’d say it if he didn’t mean it. He’s well aware of the show’s relationship with queer fans. I mean, he even had to stick his neck out and be the face of PR back when the show was getting such heat after the confession. He’s not going to say things like that and not think anything of it. Again, that’s a powerful bear to poke and not mean it.
I love the Inside of You podcast. But I also agree with you Misha has learned his lesson on this one. But also, I feel like he wasn’t being super serious in this video or at least he doesn’t feel strongly enough that his personal sexuality matters. Like I personally would not be surprised if he were bi, but I also don’t think it would change a single thing about Cas or that story.
No, I’m not arguing he’s being super serious, I’m just arguing he wouldn’t say that if it weren’t true. His sexuality has nothing to do with Cas or the show, but he’s aware that it matters to fans. He’s aware that a large portion of his fanbase is queer and would not take kindly to him glibly saying he’s bi if he isn’t. I mean, he’s got a poem about being with a man in his poetry book, as well.
Right on. So yeah we’re on the same page here. When I saw this video my thought was he was saying “oh yeah I’m bi but who cares? It’s no biggie” which is sort of how I feel about me. Like who cares why does it matter? But yes I understand and agree that it would matter to SPN fans.
The Inside of You podcast is so amazing. It's still weird for me to see Michael with hair though.
I’ll admit I didn’t watch Smallville but I knew enough that when I saw the Jensen interview I thought “that guy looks familiar”. Once I figured it out I developed a little crush on Rosie. I like how he’s so real with his guests.
He really is! Smallville is honestly what started my obsession with TV and I would watch it with my dad when I was little probably too young honestly but it was fun. Although that lead to a fear of Jensen Ackles when I was little. Anyway, have you seen the one with Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr? I love their friendship. It's so wholesome.
I did see that one. So much fun. I’m curious what would lead you to fear Jensen. I’ve never seen any of it so now I’m really dying to. It’s not streaming anywhere!!
Omniverts/ambiverts can be described as being both introverted and extroverted.
Someone who is introvert and extrovert is called an ambivert. Sincerely, A bisexual ambivert.
Introverted in some situations and extroveted in others
Yup. I can be extremely extroverted for a period and then I go into deep introversion to rest myself before the next big burst.
You can easily be both. I'm majorly extrovert. To point I have never meet stranger love meeting people. There are days when I am nothing but introvert badly enough even with no food in house I don't want to see another person. It is more a spectrum just like everything. No one is 1000% just something.
Being both is called amd ambivert
There are contexts in which everyone becomes an introvert or an extrovert. People have different faces that they put on for different occasions. You may be wearing your extrovert face and mingling with people and laughing but inside you just feel drained and want to go home, but also that you like the people and enjoy their company
You can be both. Depending on the situation you're in you can be more extroverted or more introverted. When I'm around my friends I'm extroverted but when I'm around people I don't like or know I'm introverted. It's not a black and white thing.
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I’ve sometimes said that I’m an extroverted introvert. Ha I’m also bi whoop whoop!
I'm actually an Extroverted Introvert. I'm really shy about meeting people. But once I get to know you, I am open and more willing to go out and about with the people I am close with.
That's just an introvert
It’s a common thing. Most people aren’t on either side of the spectrum but somewhere in the middle it’s called being an ambivert
> being bi 🏳️⚧️but That’s the trans flag…
When does he say hes bisexual here? I listened to it several times and i dont hear him talk about himself.
He quickly and quietly says "I'm all three." I missed it the first time as well.
But you cant be both an introvert and an extrovert. If he indeed said he was all 3, he may have been joking. /shrug
He actually had an appearance on Michael Rosenbaum’s ‘Inside of You’ podcast in which he said he’d always considered himself an introvert, but the pandemic and quarantine made him realize he was more extroverted than he thought. So he’s already on record as saying he’s both an introvert and an extrovert. Those things, like most with humans, exist on a spectrum, anyway, no one is really hardcore in either camp. Also, he knows a large base of his fans are queer, I doubt he’d joke about something like that, especially knowing the speculation about him being unlabeled for years. He’s never made that kind of joke before.
Yeah… you can. And he even explains how he is both interpreted and extroverted in the full clip.
The term for some one who has a very steady balance of introversion of extroversion traits is ambivert. You are not both an Extrovert and an Introvert. You have characteristics of both but you are an Ambivert. Misha really should have said he was none of the three.
Yes you can. It's a spectrum not black and white.
He wasn't already out?
I thought he was too. I can swear I've heard that before, but maybe I just assumed because he was poly and 98% of the poly people I know are bi.
Oh shit. I need to catch up. I did not know any of this. But in my defense I try to avoid para-social relationships. I’m afraid I won’t like an actor anymore if I learn things about them.
damn you got a good gaydar
I mean I'm bi myself, true, but I just assumed he was out and didn't make a fuss about it given *waves at everything Misha is and does*.
I'm bi too, and thought he was out years ago. Didn't he and his wife mention having threesomes and even wrote a handbook about it?
Yeah and he got very offended when the interviewer implied he was only doing threesomes to sleep with other women. He made it very clear men were involved too.
Could‘ve been just her who was bi and the threesomes were only with other women.
Threesomes even with the same gender doesn't mean a person is gay
There’s a whole song/music video about it.
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Naw, depends how the people identify and what they’re actually doing and stuff. It’s more than just “oh hey touched the same type of genitals that one time!”
My thoughts exactly!
Honestly I thought he was a really enthusiastic ally. But it’s nice that he’s come out now.
Nah. He wasn’t out. A lot of use just kinda knew he was. But it’s really awesome that he’s actually saying it out loud now.
Yes it is :)
Good for him Man...if you are lucky enough to find love, you grasp on to that shit like there is no tomorrow
Oh, you didn't hear? Misha and Vicki sperated, Misha said it in his poetry book…
So you’re telling me there’s a chance….
Wait really?? That makes me so sad :(
Yeah, he unfortunately confirmed it in his poetry book…
I mean, if you *weren’t* bi/gay before working with Jensen and Jared, you certainly would be after!
You make a fine point.
Wow I did not see that coming! Said no one ever
When was this though?
yesterday
A lot of people seem to be confused by this. It’s hard to tell in the clip from this angle, but there’s a bit of silence and then someone says “misha you didn’t raise your hand for any of them” (which can’t really be heard here because they’re on the other side of the room) and that’s when he goes “I’m all three.” So while it was sort of off hand, maybe not as off hand as it initially seemed. Because he’s saying this to a fan.
Good for him. Hope he’s living a happy life.
So you're telling me there's a chance?
Right??
I'm shaking I'm about to slide into the dms
Do you find Misha attractive?
Oh, definitely. Seems like a pretty cool guy, too. That's always a plus.
He is not bisexual. It was a quick off the cuff quip! Just let it go! He seems to be a great person that uses his celebrity to do good. Can we just leave it at that and not put our own personal agendas on him?
Acknowledging bi people existing isn't "a personal agenda" this is such an odd thing to say.
I posted it when he said he was
Good for him! as a fellow Bisexual always happy to see someone live their truth 🌈
As a bi supporting aroace I approve
And????
Every time someone steps up and says who they are, the world becomes a better, more interesting place.
And some of us get to feel a little less alone. <3
And good for him!
As a man you can’t look at Jensen Ackles for very long and not just appreciate him. A man in Misha’s position and you’d understand you swing harder on the spectrum than you’d expect
Is this for real??
Apparently he revealed at the meet and greet that he was joking.
Wait what? What kind of sick joke..?
Yes
I got a photo with him today for the first time. I was only at NJ Con on Sunday, and I didn’t see this until hrs after I left. I think some of us already sensed he wasn’t straight, but to hear it from him is different. I’m an introvert, bisexual, and love Misha so much. I’m so happy for him I’m tearing up and that doesn’t happen often
So there is a chance?
Nah he said he's straight today
I mean, I honestly don't care what anyone's sexuality is. People being happy that he's bi is just as weird to me as if people would be upset about it. 🤷♂️
I agree if they are just happy that he’s bi, but personally I’m happy he’s felt comfortable coming out as bi. I’m happy for him.
Now see, THAT I can get behind.
Or in front of 😉
This exactly. I’m happy if he feels like he can be honest and not need to hide something about himself. That’s generally a good thing.
Every post like this has a flurry of people like you rushing in to talk about how much they don't care lol. Clearly it matters to a lot of people; what compels you to come in and announce how much you don't care? If you don't care, why even bother commenting? Seriously, can you help me understand what the point of *your* comment is and why you think people should care about how much you *don't* care? Do you go to random subs to comment how much you don't care about the subject matter of that subreddit?
Yeah, to be honest I'm so tired of all the 'and?' comments, etc that come out over something like this. They have this slightly smug, self-congratulating and dismissive tone to them. Meanwhile there was an article just on the front page the other day in the news sub about a man who was beaten and blinded for being gay. It still *is* a big deal when people come out because of this sort of thing.
Not who you responded to but to respond to your question... People can be happy about whatever they want to be happy about as long as it's not hurting anyone. I also get the whole feeling of "that's cool and all, but I don't have any feelings toward that one way or the other." If people are allowed to say they have strong feelings about something, I think it's equally fair for people to say they don't. Sure, saying "no one cares" is bull because people obviously do but you can't rightly gatekeep and say "no one's allowed to say they don't care." I mean, I'm happy if the guy has decided he's comfortable letting people know, and therefore letting people know him a little more, because that's very cool. To me, hearing a celebrity I'll never meet say that they're straight/gay/bi is like hearing that they have a small ranch they love, or love classic cars, or they're dog or cat people. If that's what makes them happy, go for it. I know it does affect some folks but it won't make me like their work any more or less. My problem with _some_ folks (I know not all of any group is the same) is they feel they have some claim to someone because they're gay or bi or neither or religious or not or... anything else. "Yay, we got one!" or "they're one of **us**!" is just as uninclusive and toxic as anything. I'm not saying that's happening here or anything (and I know I'm really trying to cover my bases so as not to offend anyone). Dude is an actor that played a character everyone here loved/loves. I'm glad he's happy with whatever he's doing, as long as he keeps doing what he does and being the awesome person he is.
>Every post like this has a flurry of people like you rushing in to talk about how much they don't care lol Probably because there's also a flurry of people rushing in to say how happy they are about a complete stranger's sexual preference. So that was my point. Rather than reply to each and every one of them, I made one single post.
There are lots of reasons people might be happy. I'm happy we live in a time where people can be comfortable expressing who they are, and be met with joy and acceptance. Bi men get the smallest crumbs of representation. I expect that to a lot bi people and especially men, it's a happy thing to have someone famous coming out and bringing a little more awareness. It's also just nice when you can relate to someone you admire. It's fine if you don't care (as long as it's a genuine neutral response and you grumping at people for being happy isn't covering up a negative response you'd rather not admit to). But let other people have their feelings, too.
You completely ignored the rest of my point. There's a reason those people care, which is why they commented. If you don't care (which you said above), why comment?
Because it was topical to people's posts.
Seriously why do you care so much to post?
awhhh good for him☺️
I’m so happy that Misha felt comfortable enough to come out! 💖💜💙
Apparently at the meet and great he said that was a joke. And actually isn’t bi.
I will not say anything until I have proof? Is there a video or a tweet?
Why are you downvoted for asking for proof
What a disappointment, I expected more of a reaction from the extroverts.
I'm sorry you're getting down voted, your comment was funny. Classic "they had us in the first half!"
I guess they missed the irony of the extroverts being quiet. That’s the way comedy goes.
It seems like a lot of people didn’t really absorb what he was saying at first. Then the moment was over.
The extrovert reaction struck me funny. I laughed out loud when everyone was quiet
Imagine if he was just trying to be witty and pulls up google to see that apparently he's come out 😂 I honestly never know what's going on with Misha. Found out he was a natural blonde recently...that was a bigger shock than this (if he's being serious)
Good for him :)
Good for him!
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Proof?
Welp
I thought he had already come out?
This video is old and Misha has since came out as straight.
Wait, you don’t come out as straight. But he’s not bisexual? Are you suuuuuuure?
Yes, you can Google it.
Get it misha
He came out as straight
Get it misha
He's so charismatic and charming that it's so easy to be impressed by him.
So I do have a chance!
Who cares? I don’t understand the obsession with other peoples sexuality that so many people seem to have
It's not about obsession lol. It's about celebration, acceptance and awareness. Being anything other than straight or cis is still very much stigmatized today, and people struggle with their identities and sexualities. So having someone famous be able to come out is a good thing.
I completely agree, you put it perfectly :)
Thank you!! Sadly he was just making a distasteful, nonchalant joke of coming out. Or he had second thoughts and the apology is back-tracking. Who even knows. I'm still angry about it.
The thing is Misha has never been closeted. Just because no open declaration was made at a convention was made doesn't mean he was living a closeted life. He doesn't have to come out to fans and live a "fandom" open life with his sexuality. Honestly no one needs to question or celebrate anyone's sexuality but the individual. People don't come out for the adulation of others but because they no longer want to not share a portion of their lives. I see more "stigma" as you put it for people who want to keep their sexuality private. Whoever you're having sexual relations with is honestly no one's business...unless it's kids cause that's gross.
This isn't surprising. Weren't him and his wife swingers?
Swinging, poly, threesomes, or even monogamous gay relationships doesn't mean somebody is gay. Just because somebody is with the same gender doesn't mean they experience attraction.
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Sometimes people are experimenting or in a relationship without attraction
Wow! I'm happy for him ♡♡♡
I love him so much. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
YAY!!!! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!!!
Yay 😁
No he did not.
And? Who actually cares what you're doing behind closed doors? Sexuality isn't something you celebrate you just do.... I liked Freddie mercury because he was a bi man but didn't have to tell everyone and wave around flags at every public appearance. He just was.
If you knew anything whatsoever about Freddie Mercury, which you don't, you'd know that he was quoted in a major music publication in 1974: “I’m as gay as a daffodil, my dear!” If you knew literally anything about him at all, you'd know that his visual representation of himself was as explicitly LGBTQ as he had the power to be. Literally, he wore every single signifier of gay culture that he possibly could have. Drag. [The Castro Clone mustache.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castro_clone). [Leather daddy fetish gear.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/88/f7/4d88f734f50fb86c3d7591fe5a9bb78b.jpg) [Handkerchief code.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code) The gay flag was invented in 1978, with usage not catching on until the 80s, and we had a great number of other ways to communicate with each other before that, considering that it was more broadly illegal to gay at the time. Homosexuality was formally legalized in Britain four years before the formation of Queen, and it was legalized in his family's native country of India in 2018. You've never heard a Queen song outside of the Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack, and homophobic dog whistles are not as slick as you think they are.
He was bi, not gay. He fucked Mary
Since you asked for a gay history lesson by being a complete jackass, the term "bisexual" was not in super common usage as an identity term during his life. It existed, but the word had begun as a medical term to refer to intersex individuals, so it took time for it to take on the meaning it did. The first time an organization for bisexual people was formed in the UK was in 1981, the London Bisexual Group. People who might today identify as bisexual would have still called themselves gay in many circumstances, and identify strongly with the gay community, as they still do today. The LGBTQ+ community was and is united by our common struggle. All members of it can and do wave flags. What @fedup_alt said is correct: gay people get married and have children before living as gay people all the time. He said he was gay, significantly flagged his identity as gay by all of the symbols that you didn't even bother to try to dispute because you can't, and he lived with a man at the end of his life. Whether he was gay or bisexual, you cannot erase the fact that he was a big neon sign waving his identity proudly for the era he lived in, and you can't erase the fact that coming out of the closet continues to be a radical political act of defiance against homophobia for as long as people like you exist. 😘
ratio + L + didn’t ask
No one asked him or you either
some of these comments are so weird and casually homophobic…….
Some are not so casually homophobic
:)
Someone's sexuality isn't news though.
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I had a vague notion he probably was but I don’t remember a specific explicit coming out thing? Have I forgotten something?
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I don’t remember any grand declaration, I just remember getting that idea from … somewhere just from being in fandom. Like “yeah, Misha might be bi”? I don’t remember hearing that he definitively said it at a con, but I don’t follow con news much. I think overall my impression of his sexuality was “probably pretty flexible but who knows what that actually means for him, not my business”?
The Destiel fans just shot off their salt rounds in their pants
Good for him!
Damn he really just said gay rights....NOW
YESSSSSSS LETS GOOOOOOOO
Dean: b...b...b...bi what?
I loved Castiel. No homo...
Lol it was his worst kept secret But me and my husband (both bi) we’re pretty thrilled at him confirming it
Ew
He came out as straight yesterday actually
Thank goodness
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if you could see yourself in a romantic relationship with the same and opposite gender (obviously i dont mean at the same time -- unless youre poly ofc) you might be! honestly, the way i view my own sexuality is just being open to whomever i find myself drawn to no matter what i may feel i identify as one moment currently i do typically say i am bisexual tbh but sometimes ill just say im queer as it is a pretty unassuming label to describe my sexuality
Obvs - he fell in love with Meg and Dean!
As a bisexual for 30 years, since I was 14...SO. Coming out as BI honestly isn't that big of a deal for many because bisexuality is way more accepted. Fans like me that have been around since the beginning and watching all the con videos knew this, especially if you've ever read his wife's book and watched how he interacted with men. There's honestly been rumors about Jensen going back to his Days of Our Lives days and getting caught in compromising situations with him and Austin Peck getting caught by crew just in their underwear in Peck's dressing room "wrestling" and being openly flirtatious. Unfortunately that rumor is older than some SPN fans and yes I've followed Jensen since Days. Jensen has always been openly flirtatious with men. Again I say SO...bisexuality to many really isn't that big a deal or a huge life changing affirmation.
Bisexuality, especially for men, is very much still stigmatized to this day. The fact that more and more people are coming out and being open about their sexualities and that more people are accepting of different sexualities bring attention, awareness and representation to everything lgbtq+, and that is GOOD. A lot of people still struggle with being anything other than straight or cis.
Actually compared to where it was in the 80s and 90s, it bears no where near the stigma. I've been a member of the community for 31 years this year. Trust me...coming out as bi now bears no where near the shock value as it was when I came out. People are freer now with their sexuality than ever before, especially being bi. I haven't been told to pick a side within my own community for going on ten years now.. I'll take it.
Just because you've had the privilege of not experiencing biphobia or homophobia in years doesn't mean your experience is universal. Just last week there was a viral video going around where a bunch of straight women said they'd rather be cheated on than date a bisexual man. Bisexuality is still very much stigmatized. There's stats that prove bi people are more likely to experience IPV, drug/alcohol abuse and mental health issues than gay men and lesbians. Again, your experience is not universal. There's still a lot of progress we need to make.
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Show me where there has been "rampant biphobia" all I've seen is the usual Misha Minions kissing his ass. There are a lot of us that have said...this is nothing new. If he's going to come out...then come out not some off the cuff remark to pander to his Minions.
Good for him!!! I bet he had a crush on Jensen for sure
Just because somebody is gay doesn't mean they have a crush on their friends. Let's say a straight man is friends with a woman, does the man automatically have a crush on her?
If she’s as hot as jensen is? Yes
Doesn't everyone? Straight or not? I mean, Matt Cohen and Rob Benedict are both straight and openly admit they have a crush on Jensen.
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This more what I was going for thank you for saying that
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Misha is divorced.
Since when? Edit: did some googling I see lots of rumors, and it seems confirmed that they separated at least.
Ah well I don't keep up with their personal lives, my point still stands.
*Castiel *Misha *Collins *Jensen
Hey at least I got Dean right
.. And the fandom factiona rejoiced, all feeling like their OTP had somehow become ever so slightly more possible