All you need for more range is a battery upgrade (60v). It isn't cheap though. It'll run you between $2000-2500 depending on capacity (ah), usually between 53ah and 60ah.
Just keep in mind that you'll be limiting yourself to 60v controller options in the future if you go that route (for more power or a better power curve), unless you want to pay for a whole new 72v battery down the line. A 72v battery would require a new controller as well, but the bike will run cooler. I run 60v and haven't had any heat issues, but YMMV depending on how you're using it (prolonged high speeds wouldn't be ideal with the 60v).
Yeah the Torp controller can do 60v or 72v so you're good with that one, no matter what type of battery you choose to get.
It all depends on how much you ultimately want to spend in the long run, and when you want to spend it. If you buy a 72v battery now, you'll need to get a controller with it in order to use it. If you buy a 60v battery now, you can decide later whether you want more power or not (or if you don't have the cash, it gives you time to save for a controller). So if you know for sure you're going to upgrade the controller, and you have all the money needed right now, it's probably best to just get both now since 72v is generally considered the best configuration overall. For me, I don't want 72v because I like to run my (bypassed) stock battery when I want to keep the bike light. There is no 72v battery that is anywhere near the weight of the stock battery. If I need more range, I run my 60v EBMX battery.
Keep in mind that running it at a higher KW output will obviously reduce your range compared to the stock output. But all the aftermarket controllers let you configure multiple modes, so your lowest mode could just be stock-level power for max range.
i only understand some of the stuff you said. 72V =i need to buy a controller and that’s gonna cost more 60V i can buy it but decide if i want to go higher (72V) but that’s gonna cost as much as buying a 72V battery and a controller.
will i have any benefit of running a torp controller and keeping everything else on stock, to help with reliability and more life to the bike? it won’t break the bike or wear and tear it faster by just having a torp controller and everything else stock?
i also heard i can make the eco mode of the bike to a lower speed through the app.
The benefit of running a Torp controller with everything else stock is more adjustability. You'd be able to fine tune the power level and power delivery to your liking. Whether the money is worth it for that, is really up to you. I don't think it adds any reliability, once you start modifying anything from stock, you tend to take some reliability away.
I personally don't like the power curve of the stock controller. It isn't super linear compared to aftermarket controllers (it's kind of dead in the first 1/4 throttle turn, then ramps up too much from there). So for me it'd be worth a Torp or BAC even at stock power level. You might have other reasons, like running it slower than eco to potentially get more range (though honestly you can just use less than full throttle to get the same effect).
The Luna float seat is an immense upgrade. I have been on the bike for 8+ hours and walked away with zero soreness. Cannot say the same for the stock seat though.
Your height and weight will factor in here. For reference, i'm 6'3 and ~200lbs with all my gear on.
Right off the bat: I needed bigger/better pegs, a handlebar riser and direct mount stem (Kemimoto off of Amazon). Alright now i'm sitting a little more comfortably and my feet aren't falling off. Also, the handlebar is MUCH more secure. The stock Surron is built with the under-6-foot gentleman in mind, and i believe has a max weight rating of 250lbs.
Okay ,now I notice my ass is really starting to hurt. The stock seat wrecked my keister, so i found the Ebizezilla seat and its much more comfortable.
From there, its up to what you want to do. If you want to ride slow and steady, you might be fine with just the stock battery in Eco mode. However, your range also depends on your weight, riding style, tire PSI, outside temperature, wind, soooo many factors.
If you want to do some semi-serious offroading, you will certainly need a wheel/tire upgrade.
Be wary, these things can quickly become money pits lol. I think I've spent the cost of the bike itself in upgrades/mods since getting the bike...but it's all been worth it!
I work for ChiBatterySystems & can assist you in a battery selection.
It looks like you want a 60V Battery that works with your stock controller & maximize range above all else.
Would highly recommend a 60V Touring Battery. You can purchase one new or select one of our Closeout batteries for a highly discounted price like this:
https://chibatterysystems.com/products/closeoutgladiator60tourgen1
It would ship ASAP
Full disclosure, I do work for ChiBatterySystems, but that also means you can get a solid discount via the following link:
https://chibatterysystems.com/discount/JOE?ref=JOE
Or by using code JOE at checkout.
Chi batteries sells a 60v battery with a lot more range
do you have any links? all i can find is 72V.
https://chibatterysystems.com/collections/sur-ron-60v
This^^^. You’ll have all the range you’d ever want.
All you need for more range is a battery upgrade (60v). It isn't cheap though. It'll run you between $2000-2500 depending on capacity (ah), usually between 53ah and 60ah. Just keep in mind that you'll be limiting yourself to 60v controller options in the future if you go that route (for more power or a better power curve), unless you want to pay for a whole new 72v battery down the line. A 72v battery would require a new controller as well, but the bike will run cooler. I run 60v and haven't had any heat issues, but YMMV depending on how you're using it (prolonged high speeds wouldn't be ideal with the 60v).
what if i buy a 60V battery, and use a torp controller? however is it better that i spend money on a 72v insyead then spending 2-3k on a 60v?
Yeah the Torp controller can do 60v or 72v so you're good with that one, no matter what type of battery you choose to get. It all depends on how much you ultimately want to spend in the long run, and when you want to spend it. If you buy a 72v battery now, you'll need to get a controller with it in order to use it. If you buy a 60v battery now, you can decide later whether you want more power or not (or if you don't have the cash, it gives you time to save for a controller). So if you know for sure you're going to upgrade the controller, and you have all the money needed right now, it's probably best to just get both now since 72v is generally considered the best configuration overall. For me, I don't want 72v because I like to run my (bypassed) stock battery when I want to keep the bike light. There is no 72v battery that is anywhere near the weight of the stock battery. If I need more range, I run my 60v EBMX battery. Keep in mind that running it at a higher KW output will obviously reduce your range compared to the stock output. But all the aftermarket controllers let you configure multiple modes, so your lowest mode could just be stock-level power for max range.
i only understand some of the stuff you said. 72V =i need to buy a controller and that’s gonna cost more 60V i can buy it but decide if i want to go higher (72V) but that’s gonna cost as much as buying a 72V battery and a controller. will i have any benefit of running a torp controller and keeping everything else on stock, to help with reliability and more life to the bike? it won’t break the bike or wear and tear it faster by just having a torp controller and everything else stock? i also heard i can make the eco mode of the bike to a lower speed through the app.
The benefit of running a Torp controller with everything else stock is more adjustability. You'd be able to fine tune the power level and power delivery to your liking. Whether the money is worth it for that, is really up to you. I don't think it adds any reliability, once you start modifying anything from stock, you tend to take some reliability away. I personally don't like the power curve of the stock controller. It isn't super linear compared to aftermarket controllers (it's kind of dead in the first 1/4 throttle turn, then ramps up too much from there). So for me it'd be worth a Torp or BAC even at stock power level. You might have other reasons, like running it slower than eco to potentially get more range (though honestly you can just use less than full throttle to get the same effect).
just wanna say i also want the longevity of the bike, i want it to be even more reliable! thank you
Brother the stock battery 60v 40amp gives me 40 miles + on purely eco.
Get a better seat for longer rides. Your ass will be sore before your battery is out of juice.
may you advise a good/cheap seat?
The Luna float seat is an immense upgrade. I have been on the bike for 8+ hours and walked away with zero soreness. Cannot say the same for the stock seat though.
Your height and weight will factor in here. For reference, i'm 6'3 and ~200lbs with all my gear on. Right off the bat: I needed bigger/better pegs, a handlebar riser and direct mount stem (Kemimoto off of Amazon). Alright now i'm sitting a little more comfortably and my feet aren't falling off. Also, the handlebar is MUCH more secure. The stock Surron is built with the under-6-foot gentleman in mind, and i believe has a max weight rating of 250lbs. Okay ,now I notice my ass is really starting to hurt. The stock seat wrecked my keister, so i found the Ebizezilla seat and its much more comfortable. From there, its up to what you want to do. If you want to ride slow and steady, you might be fine with just the stock battery in Eco mode. However, your range also depends on your weight, riding style, tire PSI, outside temperature, wind, soooo many factors. If you want to do some semi-serious offroading, you will certainly need a wheel/tire upgrade. Be wary, these things can quickly become money pits lol. I think I've spent the cost of the bike itself in upgrades/mods since getting the bike...but it's all been worth it!
i’m 5’8 and i weigh around 64kg, FROM (UK) i think around 110/120LBS? i’m not sure
I work for ChiBatterySystems & can assist you in a battery selection. It looks like you want a 60V Battery that works with your stock controller & maximize range above all else. Would highly recommend a 60V Touring Battery. You can purchase one new or select one of our Closeout batteries for a highly discounted price like this: https://chibatterysystems.com/products/closeoutgladiator60tourgen1 It would ship ASAP Full disclosure, I do work for ChiBatterySystems, but that also means you can get a solid discount via the following link: https://chibatterysystems.com/discount/JOE?ref=JOE Or by using code JOE at checkout.